/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1110571
son is winning!

>>1110571
my oshi gets bitches does yours?

>>1110571
>holding a youtube play button condom wrapper in his lips

>>1110640
> 8 v 1
imagine your oshi collabing with 8 guys and being the only girl

>>1110571
Man, yesterday was fun.
What a Chad.

>>1110676
>Matsuri
She'll be "thrilled", is an understatement.

>>1110571
Now thats a harem.

>>1110571
My winning son can't stop winning!

>>1110679
> yesterday
.... RRAT

>>1110571
almost makes me wanna watch homostars.. almost

>>1110722
your oshi will never be able to interact with a man which means she'll never have a funny stream

Roberu chads, I kneel...

>>1110713
It was "yesterday" in JST, anon.

>>1110571
Roberu playing with Cock.

>>1110571
If HolostarsEN becomes a thing I quit. Only fags and fujos like homostars

>>1110640
Came here to post this. What the fuck, Roberu.

>>1110846
you know what they say about a man who's always self conscious about their sexuality?

>>1110846
Only EOPs like EN.

>>1110676
But anon there are two men in this image.

>>1110917
if it looks like a girl it's a girl to me

>>1110917
>spoiler
i'm surprised no one has figured it out other than you anon

>>1110894
do any of the EN girls actually know how to commentate? like I feel they completely forget that streaming includes a lot of talking and just hired whoever had the most talent. They all suck at holding conversations and sound so forced jesus, can anybody really like them?

>>1110846
And nothing of value was lost.

>>1110846
What if it's a female acting like a male hostess?

>>1111012
you have to be funny to impersonate a male so that's out of the question

>>1110917
I was about to say 7 girls, a man and a shemale, but eh.

>>1110917
Still would fuck this sexy bunny.

>>1110571
herro? basudo departoment?

>>1110846
And what is the problem with Holostars?

>>1110846
>Phoneposter
>Retarded post
Every time. Best part is, we know you're going to stick around when they debut, faggot.

>>1110571
The most subbed girl in that collab that doesn't have the english buff has 241k, the least successful holos have nearly twice that. You can think what you want about most holos not collabing with men but it seems to work well for them

>>1110917
3*

>>1111202
> hololive is only popular because they don't collab with males

>>1111202
What's the point of sub numbers when most of it are dead subs anyway?

>>1110571

>>1111363
wait are you telling me that the company with multiple vtubers that have a guaranteed fanbase is bigger than one indie vtuber WAT!?!?!??!!??

>>1111441
where the fuck is my translation?

>>1111460
just imagine the guy on the bottom put ">girls" after someone saying he was collabing with girls

>>1111460

Nigga I don't even speak chinkanese and even I can tell he's saying
>8 THOTS

>>1111202
go back to your threads

>>1111441
[EN]: *japanese keyboard clacking noises*

>>1110571
Based winning son

>>1111570
meant for >>1111460

>>1110571
Only 5 of the are female.

>>1110917
its actually 3

>>1111589
Kuku may sound like a boy, but she's all female.

>>1111595
other than Roberu

>>1111460
>what is this
>>what is this
>this is a harem of 8 girls
>>8 girls
>Lies!!
>Everyone lies to me!!

>>1110975

>>1110571
Son is unfathomably based
https://youtu.be/zUoindhxuUE?t=162

>>1111441
>>1111460

>What is this...

>It's a harem of 8 girls

>8 girls
Picture:
>You're lying!
>All of you stop fucking with me!

>>1111305
>>1111595
My mistake, I don't recognize all of the faces.
Though this is the reply I was waiting for.

>>1111607
Kuku makes my Kuku go kuku

>>1111441
Why do you guys like posting unfunny 5ch shitposts probably no one laughed at

>>1110884
That's a homo cope though.

>>1111607
Roberu, Mari, and Ito Life have dicks and fully admit they are men. No troons.

>>1111346
Obviously not just that but it's a part of explaining their success
>>1111363
The ones who collab with males are just as mogged by views as subs
>>1111554
No fuck you, if OP makes a homobeggar thread calling out hololive and crying that they can't leech off the girls I'm free to tell him to fuck off, I wouldn't go into a regular homo thread to start shit though

>>1111958
Yeah, and Kuku is a woman, not trans and not a boy.

>>1111202
>comparing indie vtubers' numbers with hololive's
>implying hololive is a success just because they dont collab with males
Anon, you know what time it is. Go to the drawer, and get your meds

>>1111663
>getting teased by Ruri
God I'm jealous.

>>1110571
Is this guy a chad?

>>1110571
Males leech off females
Look at any niji collab
Female streamers exist to job for males there

>>1112252
But then that would mean girls leach off guys

>>1112230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV78exDFWrQ
he's based

>>1112306
Oh yeah, this guy's based
Why do he and the Holostars get hate on this board though? Is it just 'cause they're dudes?

>1112252
>males leeches of off females
>Nijis
>females exist to job to males
What are you really trying to say?

>>1110571
Someone post that one vocaroo of him fucking your oshi

>>1112320
Nobody cares enough to hate them, just the fans that constantly beg the holo girls to collab with them and make out the only reason they don't is because Cover is some evil black company

>>1112275
Doesn't happen
Any time male and females collab, female chuubas lose viewers while male gain regardless of popularity

>>1112306
>he's based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWMGOylKim4
Very

>>1112320
Yes, for how much people hate idol culture, there's an uncomfortable amount of people on this board who think they're gay if they watch a dude.

>>1112387
>while male gain regardless of popularity
The gain is mostly gachikois who throw a fit and flame their chat though.

>>1112387
So how does that mean the guys are leaching? It just means more people would rather watch the guys' streams, for various reasons. Your logic makes no sense, what you're saying is that people only watch the guys because the girls are there which isn't the case
Also it's not even true, you really think Hajime would get more views than Sasaki during a collab?

>Auran showed up in my YT recs one time during dead hours
>Clicked out of curiosity
>Hes actually a pretty cool dude and enjoyed having him as background noise

Never actually watched Roberu yet but I'm sure hes entertaining too

>>1112431
Makes me wonder if those people had any friends at all. Watching male chuubas mostly feels like watching a bro do silly stuff. Bonus point for them being more relatable than female chuubas.

>>1112456
Yes

>>1112387
just depends on how entertaining the girl is without GFE, which for most girls isn't much

>>1112472
Ok then you're just shitposting

>>1112482
t. closet homosexual

>>1112468
Most of Holostars are entertaining, so does other Vtubers.
It really comes down to ones tastes in the end.

>>1112491
Am I? There's a reason even niji protects their top female talents from male heavy collabs. Girls are scared of men and act differently around them.

>>1112482
True.
Huge reason why I like Mito.

>>1112544
>Am I?
Yes

>>1110571
idol culture and pandering to unicorns still apply here

>>1111073
Bunny cunny!

What a Chad

>>1112468
The Stars are pretty cool guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ4kN3vSB2E&t=1h38m53s.. Also, Rikka is unironically the best musician in the entire company. Guy's good enough to be a top-tier professional.

>>1110917
thats the best part

>>1110571
Now imagine a scenario where all those behind him are instead replaced with Holos.

>>1112604
>Guy's good enough to be a top-tier professional
So, who's gonna tell him?

>>1112619
I would love to see this just so all the gachikoi faggots rope in unison.

>>1112620
tell him what...........

>>1110917
Sometimes, you have to be a man to be deemed best girl.

Roberu oozes chad energy, I wish he would stream at times that arent 2am for me. I hope he gets his mommy milker gf soon

>>1110571
>>1111346
>>1112363
Cover doesn't want to lose SC money

>>1112638
Let's say that old man is no amateur and leave it at that.

>>1112387
For Holos I believe that, but I've seen plenty of collabs that boosted the girl's viewers.

>>1112544
>their top female talents from male heavy collabs.
their top female earners at the moment collab with men, anon.

>>1110571
Look how fucking smug he is... the absolute unit. Proud of him.

>>1110846
Women will be obsolete. I understand your fear anon.

>>1111363
Youtube pushes videos from channels with high sub counts more regardless of whether they're dead or not. A completely relevant video from a 100k sub fully active channel is not going to get anywhere near half the same exposure as a tangentially related video from a 2.5 million dead sub channel.

>>1112825
Because other girls don't advertise themselves as idorus or otaku imaginary GFs.

>>1112913
Where's Risu?

>>1112544
anon, the top superchat earner among niji females right now is a literal dyke that also collabs with men

>>1112916
Idk anon.
Based from experience, YT recommends me shit depending mostly on:
1.) What video I clicked and watched for 30 secs
2.) What I searched both in YT AND Google
and;
3.) The number of videos I clicked

>>1110846
just give them a chance

>>1112931
Pretty much. I dislike the GFE anyway so I don't watch those that actively pander to that.

Any Vtuber that relies heavily on GFE has no talent whatsoever.

>>1112306
Fucking based.

>>1113113
Jesas, are they really that tall in comparison?

>>1113172
they have a talent for making their viewers want to jack off to them without degrading themselves with lewd ASMR

>>1113172
I only pity those who actually rely on GFE to attract people, since that means she's basically attracting the worse kind of degenerates into her fold.
All it takes is just one (or a couple) of mistakes...

>>1113194
says that while people who do GFE mostly do asmr

>>1113172
Rushia...

>>1113262
Please do tell what's wrong with tatsunoko and fandead?

>>1112353
ロベルさんは好きな人です

>>1113262
rushia bald head when?????

>>1113172
>women
>talent

>>1110975
Damn you must have a lot of grudge against them, they're just doing their job and having fun in the process because if they cant have fun the viewers wont either and as for holding conversations they are decent at it they are just awkward in collabs with ID and JP because they dont know how to act

>>1113303
I don't just everytime I watch them they seem to be stumbling over their words.

>>1113286
No sane person donates as much as those two fanbases do. I stopped watching Coco and Rushia when I realized how much they milk Superchats

>>1113180
Yes

>>1113366
You realize that saying those people aren't sane isn't really a criticism.

When you realize this is turning into an anti thread

>>1113396
Astel...

>>1113572
Asteruu...

We seriously need art of Roberu in bed while all the others try to get close to him and hug him.
All naked, obviously.

>>1113396
Kira...

>>1113609
that'll make them stop collabing together tho....

>>1112387
When I watch a collab that's streamed on both channels I generally watch from the smaller channel just out of wanting to give them an extra view.

>>1113634
It's just art bro...

>>1113674
i know but roberu is very sensitivo

>>1113648
In my case, I visit the smaller channel because their chat is wayyy less chaotic

>>1113694
In my case, I hate women

>>1113797
Based!

>>1110571

Roberu forgot to turn his swag off

>>1113299
>being good at singing and/or drawing isn't talent
Please show us what you consider to be "talent" then

>>1112604
>Rikka is unironically the best musician in the entire company
Partially agree with this, i think he is by far the best Star musician and at the very least top 3 of the best musicians in Cover as a whole, you can really hear his amazing potential in stuff like the blessing cover where he got a Solo

I'll never forget Astel spilling his spaghetti while talking to Matsuri during the Apex tourney. I don't care for the relationship drama that would ensue, but I'd like to see more collabs, too.

Especially with bossu.

>>1112964
Watching them

>>1114510
Just have the entirety of Holostars collab with Matsuri.

>>1114515
>watching from the sidelines
Kinda OOC desu.

>>1114538
After that drunken yab? Never happening again.

>>1112471
>you will never have friends hype you up like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE07d76xuWM

>>1114510
>spoiler
He is a thread levels approaching super Nenechi, the two would destroy cover if they ever interacted

>>1114627
Nooooooooooooo

>>1114925
Post the Shiendown

>>1114487
The reason I would contend he's the best in the company is because
>fantastic singing voice, can sing from any number of genres to a high standard
>plays an instrument well
>writes his own music (he did not just the lyrics but also the composition for his original song)
There are other members like Azki or Suisei who can do one or two of these things but not all three. That said, Rikka is an ojisan, and this is an area where he would naturally have an advantage simply from having had more time to develop his skills.

Holostars are legitimately funnier than any of the Hololive JP or EN vtubers. I'm honestly glad they get to collab with best Hololive region though. Holostars and Hololive ID for life.

>>1110571
i hope he fucked all of them

>>1115006
post THAT shien clip

>>1115143
>"all" of them
That's gay and hot.

>>1115102
it's pretty neat that he was sought out to compose a character song for an anime series

>>1115102
He also compose a character song for an anime.
https://twitter.com/rikkaroid/status/1366371260108709888

>>1115006
>>1115156
https://streamable.com/4f5d14
https://streamable.com/scqfi2

>>1115315
>>1115317
Didn't know about this. Props to the old man android for this.

>>1115391
Is this the infamous massager I've heard about?

>>1115006
Bossu!
>Used to walk around town wearing pikachu underwear and no pants, because he thought they were shorts
>Set his twitter account's birthdate to his Holostars debut date, got banned for months as a result. This lead to him being known as a baby by the rest of the Holostars.
>Once accidentally hijacked the Holostars youtube account and started streaming on it, thinking that it was his own account, and it took him 15 minutes to realize what was going on when his manager messaged him on discord in a panic
>During Sora's birthday stream, when every other holo from every branch stopped streaming, Shien started a horror game stream where he clipped a peg on his face everytime he got startled, and had to stop the stream because he was in too much pain
>Did a cooking stream on his vertically filming unsecured phone and ended up recording his feet, got chewed out publicly by his manager and had to delete the VOD. Decided it would still be a good idea to upload it to Twitcast later that night anyways.
>Has a crippling ass fetish
>Sang 'nigga' twice in GTAV despite his chat warning him well in advance he probably shouldn't say it
>Once did a DDLC stream where he voiced all the female characters' lines in the highest pitch he could, ended up wearing out his throat and he couldn't stream the next day (he didn't learn his lesson, and did another voice acted DDLC stream later that week)
>Once electrocuted himself to the point of ejaculation on stream
>Formed a team to join a serious Vtuber APEX tournament filled with Diamond and Master players, on the condition that everyone in his team use controllers to play. They were last place with no kills.
>Fled an anime convention after a girl cornered him and ranted the entirety of The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku at him, leaving an enduring emotional scar
>Made the committee of the first Vtuber Apex tourney restart because he couldn't get in.
>Later was joined by some chump named Kawase and Pikamee in the tournament afterparty. Kawase gave most of his equipment to him and was only allowed to go all out when bossu sacrificed himself as a summoning catalyst to provide Kawase with the Mastiff. Kawase then got champion within 10 minutes of Shien's sacrifice.
>Had technical problems which caused him to stream during Sora's birthday stream since he streamed an hour late from the original schedule.

>>1115556
Actually based. I'm tempted to look into him now.

>>1115556
he also cried watching Boss Baby

>>1115573
Bossu is the funniest Holo in all of Cover.

>>1112387
Subaru's very first collab was with a Niji male, he got her attention and helped a ton to get her started on streaming stuff.

>>1115820
You have any recommended streams or vids as a starting point?

>>1115556
>>Fled an anime convention after a girl cornered him and ranted the entirety of The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku at him, leaving an enduring emotional scar
Fucking amazing

>>1112725
All the women that have collabed with him say he has a silver tounge, I think he tries to avoid collabing with most of the JP girls because he doesn't wanna get in trouble.

>>1110571
sometimes it must suck being a gachi for some of these girls

>>1115107
>>1115820
no lies detected

>>1112725
What, is he into jujukos?

>>1115556
So is he just an idiot?

>>1116189
Imagine Nene, but male.

>>1111441
This is your brain on Japanese Idols

>>1116112
Kuku chat actually shipped them, most her superchat on that collab has blablaba*roberu in it
>>1111384
Is this the part when Haneru asked him if he fucked all Animare?

>>1112067
there's only 1 indie in that picture

>>1112916
by your logic Youtube will never recommend clipper video since they have small subcount

>>1115556
based

>>1113687
About fucking girls in an orgy? My man, this son of mine is a WINNER.

>>1118815
>most her superchat on that collab has blablaba*roberu in it
that was because Kuku lost a punishment game during one of the races where whoever came in 5th had to end their sentences using "Roberu"

>>1115923
His DDLC playthrough is pretty popular; he gave everyone Yugioh/Jojo voice overs.

>>1110917
>draw a girl
>call it a boy

DAILY FUCKING REMINDER:

Male chuubas should NOT go for the fujo/male idol approach as only a select few can pull it off. They should go for the wrestling approach of turning up their personality to 11. The most successful males in Niji did that and now the top superchats for Niji are split between male/females.

The prim and proper idol image just doesn't fit for males. The real goal should not be seeking for female/homo simps but to be a bro to the audience. This is the reason why male streamer/youtubers of the past still have strong fanbases to this day, this goes for dead channels too.

this is the worst thread on this board

>>1110571
Call this a RRAT but I am convinced that only less popular Cover workers are allowed to collab with indies

>>1119760
He's a porn artist, can you really blame him...

>>1119854
That will just turn off the normalfag audience and mainstream streamerfags that don't care for that sort of thing either.
The most important factor for being a popular male streamer is simply being interesting, or otherwise, being very very good at a popular game, but the first one is a better guarantee for success and the only way to have a long career.

>>1119870
Blatantly false

who are those. compared to niji men they lack uniqueness.

>>1120088
*They lack personality. The problem with them is they wanna be idols/fujobait and not be a bro. Basically this >>1119854 Roberu and Shien are the only one comparable to niji boys

For all the bullshit about the community going on at this thread, I'm surprised no one mentioned the fact that Suisei, literally the idol, has just released a song with two completely obscure dudes simply because she wanted to sing with them and pretty much no one was bothered by that.

>>1120134
it's because the people who genuinely care if the girls collab with men are actually just a small group of mentally ill autists that places like the /jp/ hololive thread pretends are the representatives of Japan.

>>1112392
That's fucking hilarious.

>>1120134
To be fair, it is a pretty excellent cover.

>>1120134
>Suisei, literally the idol
lol
holotards have no idea what happens outside your bubble huh

>>1112320
No one hates them except jp because they keep forcing discussion in hlg when they have their own thread. They're also obnoxious in wanting to force collabs with the Hololive girls when the girls don't want to.

>>1120134
This has never been an issue. Suisei has a radio show where she has guests. Both girls and dudes have been guests. Just search in YT. There are several. On her channel too. Suisei is a musician. An artist so her collaborating with the othe people for the sake of making good music is always welcome. This is the same with Azki. If you really want to ask the right questions then you should ask why Rikka hasn't asked her yet to be guest in Ritunes or any cover.

There is an obvious line here. No one knows. I personally don't care. Just as long nobody forces or peer pressures my Oshi(Suisei) to do anything then I am fine.

There are four men and one boy in that image.

Based daily homobegging thread. At least you're not shitting up the bigger threads.

>>1122250
I'm begging them to collab with other 774, most hololive are boring if you know japanese

>>1120134
Suisei is more like a Vsinger at this point. She doesn't behave like an idol at all (very little fan interaction which is the selling point of most idols), even Matsuri has more idol power than her.

>>1115556
So he's a based retard

>>1115556
Add him whooping wooley in the strive beta onto the list.

>>1112320
Basically yes.
They live rent free in a lot of posters head like
>>1112363
>>1121241

Just discussing collabs theoretically counts as begging to them. You go in a homo thread though and they almost never discuss the girls.

They also through a tantrum if you discuss them in a /hlg/ thread and start posting gay porn. Not making that up. I remember before the 2hu holocaust and the board split it got to the point that people started trolling them with NTRberu edits because they got so annoying. This of course only set them off more.

The holostars and ID collab was legendary. I only really watch pizza dad's English streams but he's hilarious. I'm straight.

>>1110571
That's my boy.

>>1123610
watch Roberu and you'll find lot's of cute girls
>>1110571
>>1123719
>condom
they literally said in the stream that it's Roberu's 危険日

>>1123569
And you just outed yourself as a newfag, the newer homofags are fucking obnoxious, they spam the thread just as much as the homohaters. And they did all of that even though the older homofags begged them to stop.

>>1115556
>>Once electrocuted himself to the point of ejaculation on stream
Eh?

>>1124179
I agree when did this happen?

>>1124179
>>1124323
check archive or ask holostar thread, they posted the clip several times

>>1124323
>>1124179
https://streamable.com/4f5d14
They mean that

>>1125310
eroi!

Roberu-san, I kneel. I actually tried watching TMSK's stream of that game and it was pretty bad for her.

I will fuck Roberu next

>>1123544
stream?

>>1125579
How can you fuck him when you can't even get into Hoshikawa's pants, Matuli?

>>1110571
he's winning son

>>1111202
why are holos like this?

>>1125890
https://youtu.be/1uE7oTvHs-4?t=5812

What's up with a bunch of Haachama's videos being removed from the past week?

>>1126453
Holos only has numbers

>>1110846
Holostars are good singers though. I don't watch the rest of their content , because well, I don't understand Japanese, but they seems good at fps and such.

>>1111202
Shut the fuck up.

>>1128802
>because well, I don't understand Japanese,
Most of the stars have dedicated TL
>but they seems good at fps and such.
Astel is really good at apex, Temma really goid at DbD, while Roberu is strongest holopro Mario Kart player. Yes Roberu is pretty much sandbagging in that entire collab

>>1129254
>while Roberu is strongest holopro Mario Kart player
do you really think that anon? do you really think he's better than Suisei?

>>1129970
Watch his mario kart stream, He always get top 5 in random lobbies

>>1129970
I'd love to see them race each other, but it won't happen under normal circumstances. An open MK8 vtuber tournament would be cool.

>>1129970
For reference, Aqua and Suisei tied with Miyabi and Shien in the holo tournament

>>1129970
Don't you see how he flies off when the punishment game for the race is to be pretend couple?

>>1110571
Roberu is too chad for your virgin tier RRATS

>>1119870
Bullshit.

>>1130284
got a timestamp?

>>1130587
https://youtu.be/EoVJAx4JBT8?t=3973

>>1125907
Should have use Onee-san voice on him

>>1130638
What an absolute chad

>>1120134
All the degeneracy started with from the third generation. It is at that moment you can pinpoint all the things that are wrong and the single points of failure in the current Hololive. It is extremely successful but still a house of cards

>>1110846
I would apply if it became a thing.

>>1132494
>All the degeneracy started with from the third generation
Matsuri is Gen1. And RBK is Gen0 and used to walk around with her tits out before she got shirt nerfed. 2018 is the forgotten year for us newfags.

>>1130638
>Intentionally getting second place to avoid the blue shell and then take first place again
What an absolute chad

>>1114627
what drunken yab

>>1138518
https://youtu.be/m7R9GIE7FQM

>>1138518
>Fuck me aniki

>>1138913
that doesnt seem too bad,

>>1116189
>>1116236
Male nene...why didn't I think of that?!?

>>1139353
Anon is overreacting because he probably doesn't watch male female collabs much

>>1139353
>>1140310 me
Like it's not even the first time Matsuri herself has acted like a slut around a male vtuber

>>1114627
>>1138518
That's not their last interaction, and Roberu is evasive and quick to change the topic when his chat bring up Matuli. It's probably roomate related

>>1110640
Son literally can't stop winning

>>1120121
>Only Roberu and Shien
You clearly haven't watched enough holostars.

>>1112857
Nope, their top female earner at the moment is Furen, who avoids collabing with men as much as posible

>>1112482
>Homoshart thread
>Turns into shitting on women
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

>>1110571
HOLY SHIT BOBBY WHAT A CHAD

>>1148225
Isn't that basically every thread on this site?

>>1110571
You guys all know there's 2 men in this image right?

>>1110571
>play button looks like a condom
He did that on purpose.
Which is based

>>1110571
So proud of our son, he gets all the ladies.

>>1110571
>hololive doesn't collab with holostars because they're male idols and that would be akward!!!!
Well yeah, that'a s thing.
Even Idolm@ster who pretty much has the most successful male idol group in a company that handles both male and female talents has as much as they possibly can top keep side M away from their new golden goose the shiny colour girls.
Don't know why is it such a hard concept to grasp for the nu-homofags
Male collabs ≠ Holostars collabs
Female collabs ≠ Hololive collabs
Most of both branches have agreed that they want nothing to do with each other, and that's also what Cover wants

>>1148412
Don't bother applying logic to homobeggars, they seriously believe that if Marine just collabed with Roberu he would suddenly become just as popular as Kuzuha.

>WHAT A CHAD
>he gets all the ladie
>my oshi gets bitches does yours?
>Now thats a harem.
And that's exactly the reason as to why the girls don't collab with the homos, because retards can't help themselves but to instantly start pushing the shipping garbage. At least when they yuribait it's a mutually beneficial thing that doesn't rub gachis the wrong way.
There's a reason as to why every time that shit happens in Niji it's always the same outcome the girl starts reclining while the male continues to grow, because the shipping alienates the fans of the girl while the fans of the male never had in intention of supporting the girl in the first place

>>1148987
Even Furen has realized this, that is why she now limits her collabs with males. These people are literally dumber than Furen.

>>1149112
>Dumber than Furen
No matter how much I hear it, it never stops being funny
I love that idiot, can't wait for her 3D

>>1110571
>hololive doesn't collab with holostars because they're male idols and that would be akward!!!!
But they collab with hololive ID?

>>1112635
>I would love to see this just so all the girls lose a substantial part of their income
Do homofags really...

>God damn it!
>Are ya winnin SON?

That did crack me up

>>1148412
If Cover actually wanted them to be separate they would have collab restrictions in place, which they don't. It's entirely up to the individuals involved, which is why Fubuki does homo collabs and Usada "Would you guys be okay with me collabing with men? No? Okay I won't." Pekora doesn't. This is perfectly fine, and homobeggars should get fucked, but you shouldn't misrepresent the situation.

>>1148987
Shippers are a blight on this earth. Always have been, always will be. It's like people aren't even allowed to be friends anymore, everyone has to want to get into everyone else's pants always.

>M-muh idolfag gachis
You do realize that EN doesn't have them and they still won't collab with the stars right?
It's almost like women are more comfortable with other women...

>>1149839
Sorry I must be getting my narratives wrong but I thought all women are whores that wanted a dicking, please respond?

>>1149839
>You do realize that EN doesn't have them and they still won't collab with the stars right?
Where were you when Ame watcher harassed Astel?

>>1149947
Where were you when Ame and Astel collabed... wait that didn't happen
Ame got annoyed at shipperfags while Astel just keep inciting them and now they don't even talk

>>1134631
No, I meant that many things in how Hololive is operated changed starting the third generation specifically. From memory:
>yuribait raised to 11
>GFE model where income massively depends on a few paypigs started because of Rushia
>collab with males litterally stopped with them, the older gens all still can do it if they want
>in general, insularity coming from the fact that are enough to make any streams possible without any external guests
With the permissions arcs and the chinks meltdown, it is becoming more and more visible that the content is becoming stale and the management incompetency doesn't help making anything any better

>>1149970
>Astel inciting them
Astel went on a long rant on why shipping him with his coworkers is stupid.

>>1149970
They don't collabed because Ame watcher raided Astel chats you fucking EoP

>>1149571
>Usada "Would you guys be okay with me collabing with men? No? Okay I won't." Pekora doesn't.
I can see Pekora, Rushia, Aqua, and Noel's chat telling them a hard NO on male collabs.

>>1150079
>They don't collabed because Ame watcher raided Astel chats you fucking EoP
based amefag

>>1150036
I wouldn't know since I only started watching vtubers since just after Gen 5 debuted. Gen 3 definitely is the GFE generation but that didn't continue into Gen 4 and 5, which may be why there are so many rrats about Cover treating them more poorly than the earlier Gens., particularly Gen. 4.

>>1150036
>yuribait raised to 11
Gen 4 doesn't yuribait anymore fucking RIP Sio, and the only ones that actually lean on Gen 5 are Lamy and Botan, and Lamy is a know NoeFlarefag
Rushia only yuribaits with a boy larper from another company, and "yuribaiting" has been Marine's gimmick since before she was Marine, that's just who she is, same goes for Noel actually
>GFE model where income massively depends on a few paypigs started because of Rushia
Rushia is very engaging conversationalist that prioritizes her audience, if you want to continuously dismiss her success by calling her hardwork "GFE" you do you, but that's just belittling and disrespectful, special when "GFE" isn't even a thing within Sankisei
>collab with males litterally stopped with them, the older gens all still can do it if they want
Newer gens can do so if they want as well, Botan was in a COD even with males the other day.
Suisei has a collab with males on a few days and she joined afer Gen 3, Coco collabed with males as well
>in general, insularity coming from the fact that are enough to make any streams possible without any external guests
That's a good thing, Hololive being a self sustaining environment where they mutually boost each other is the ideal and what Niji as desperately been trying to foster but just can't make it work

>>1150095
All of the girls who have been vocal against male collabs (Pekora, Marine, Noel, Flare, Miko, Lamy, Nene, Subaru, Towa) with the exception of Marine and Pekora have done so without audience input, it's just what they want

Daily reminnder.

>>1150203
Wasn't Towa okay with male collabs as long it's not one on one? Also it's very stupid since her roomate and astel actually friends IRL

>>1150281
>>1150296
Wow Oga an Shien has more view than the number 1 most superchatted youtuber, homo incline is real

>>1150171
Clip watchers aren't going to know any of that.
There's plenty of collabs with people outside of Hololive.They're not hosted on Hololiver's channels usually though unless it's something like Among Us.

>>1150169
>Gen 3 definitely is the GFE generation
Please explain how they are GFEs, you can explain it right? it's not like you're just calling them that to dismiss their hard work

>>1150281
Look at the difference in the scale of those dips. They might be a little iffy on Shien but holy shit do they hate Oga.
I can't blame them, FOXDEMON induces physical pain when I try to watch.

>>1150169
>Gen 3 definitely is the GFE generation but that didn't continue into Gen 4 and 5
What is Coco?
>>1150171
>Gen 4 doesn't yuribait anymore
Kanata with anyone, Watame-Haachama
>Rushia is very engaging conversationalist that prioritizes her audience
That's true, but you can't deny it worked too well and others have applied the same strategy, the most remarkable are Coco and Lamy, even the older gens do the same now. Depending on a few people has been very beneficial for them, but it is a bad strategy on a long term
>Newer gens can do so if they want as well
True. But they all suddenly don't want anymore, because they know their paypigs won't like it. I don't even them to want to collab with Holostars, as they are perfectly fine alone. Suisei is still gen 0 even if she joined later.
>That's a good thing, Hololive being a self sustaining environment where they mutually boost each other is the ideal
Objectively, it is true. In practice, it just ends up with the same people everytime. The problem probably just comes from me as it would be more interesting if they did also activities with the 774 or VOMS outside from AmongUs. In concerts like the Vtuber Fes, their presence ended up almost anecdotical with a few group songs. In the Hal Apex tournament, they were a pain in the ass to take care of because of Hololive management

>>1150447
The dip actually from Pekora leaving, you can notice the dip started before Oga called in. Also if people hates homo so much why didn't they come back when other Hololive called after Oga?

>>1150171
Your mistake was thinking any beggars in this thread even watches rushia. They just all know her as the girl who makes a lot of money because she is exceptionally good at engaging with her chat, or as they would like to call it, GFE.

>>1110975
Yes, but only one of them.

>>1110846
I'm sure EN Gen2 will have both males and females.

>>1150571
Just like ID2 right? Keep dreaming mate.

>>1150506
I just assumed the graph wasn't perfectly aligned. And people would continue to leave because Oga having existed in the stream soured the whole thing.

>>1150537
Not that anon but if Rushia is not doing GFE, then what's your definition of GFE?

>>1150587
kagura mea is the ideal example of gfe

>>1150489
>Kanata with anyone, Watame-Haachama
Anon think you just have to deal with the fact that Kanata just fucking gay, she has been "yuribaiting" for years even with Marine and Suisei before they were Marine and Suisie
When was the last time Watame and Haachama collabed by the way?
> the most remarkable are Coco and Lamy, even the older gens do the same now.
You don't even watch streams, if you really think anyone being attentive of their fanbase is GFE
You are just making the stupid analogy of Zatsudan streamer = GFE, that someone enjoys talking to chat it's just that. Coco has been doing zatsudans for years, because that's just a format they enjoy, no one calls female radio hosts "GFE" and yet that's exactly what Coco and others do,
>True. But they all suddenly don't want anymore, because they know their paypigs won't like it. I don't even them to want to collab with Holostars, as they are perfectly fine alone. Suisei is still gen 0 even if she joined later.
Subaru still is more than willing to do another Oozora radio it's just that Ui is too busy with her anime, and again it's not like they stopped doing collabs in the first place
>Marine interviews men every other week on her radio show, even had Beatmario on her channel
>Botan has been on several COD events all with male players
>Coco collabed with males, the one holo she was friends with graduated so she doesn't have any interest in the branch it's that easy
>Towa had a collab with a male last week
>Suisei is still gen 0 even if she joined later.
That doesn't change anything, it just means that she's genless Mio would be Gen 0 as well if they didn't incorporate her into GAMERS at a later date
>The problem probably just comes from me as it would be more interesting if they did also activities with the 774 or VOMS
>No one in the main branch is friends with VOMS
>Patra and Flare collab regularly
>Several Niji momtesu collabs
>Marine marioka with Oni-mom
>Okayu collabs with her sister
>Several collabs with Norio
>Polka and Polka
>Debi is a fucking whore who collabs with anyone under the sun
> In concerts like the Vtuber Fes, their presence ended up almost anecdotical with a few group songs
Because they were busy as fuck, they had both Holofes and Bloom almost back to back
>In the Hal Apex tournament, they were a pain in the ass to take care of because of Hololive management
Yeah, and that problem got instantly deal with by the next tournament and the only person who complained was Matsuri

>>1110894
what if I like stars, jp, en, and I've been doing my jp reps?

>>1150654
I don't watch her solo stream, but she's been flirting a lot with Maimoto in their collabs. Is that your definition of GFE?

>>1150582
Did ID2 have "any gender" in the requirements?

>>1150506
That and a lot of the viewers probably come from Pekora's stream since she was making Moona's present right before the totsu. Moona's usual viewers are probably those who stay during the indie and ID guests part.

>>1150587
I can't believe that all male podcasters are BFE because they're engaging...

>>1150699
Yes, ID1, EN1 and ID2.

>>1150715
Again what's your definition of GFE? For me, if the streamers act like they're the chats girlfriend then it's GFE

>>1150744
Ok, please tell me in what way are they acting like their chats gf. Because just chatting with them is not pretending to be their girlfriend in the slightest

>>1112604
These lads can't sing for shit

>>1112809
Let' say the old man has given his wife some rough love...

>>1150758
M8 now I'm starting to doubt that you even watch Rushia, the one that has yandere mode if you mention another girl or just type pain peko.

>>1150758
I don't know man when Rushia goes after her members because she saw them in a different stream or they missed one of her streams with her "were you watching other girls?" act I think yeah that's totally something a male podcaster would also do and definitely not an obsessive girlfriend roleplay.

>>1150792
>He thinks a few clips of Rushia joking around are her entire character.

>>1150587
Here's what rushia does. She is exceptionally bad at games, one of the worst in hololive. She isn't very good at providing commentary at things happening. She's tech illiterate. She's one of the dumbest people in hololive. Yet she makes up for this by being one of the most attentive streamers, she notices both newcomers and old watchers, she picks out good comments to use as talking points, even from grey names. she has one of the best superchat readings in the company because she uses it to discuss many things with the fandead, and of course, she has an extremely pleasant voice and is funny. It makes people feel as if they're a part of the stream, which is what a good streamer must do. She makes up for her shortcomings through other methods, and this is what you faggots call GFE. No, it's called being a good fucking streamer. I'm fucking tired of you faggots pretending every holo that bothers to engage with their chat beyond the bare minimum and actually maintain a strong relationship with their chat is GFE.
>>1150792
Holy shit you are actually dumb as fuck. It's called a fucking joke

>>1150662
>Yeah, and that problem got instantly deal with by the next tournament and the only person who complained was Matsuri
Wait, they already give the detail for the next VTuber Apex Tournament?

>>1150832
Anon... everyone already announced their teams ages ago
This is twapper's, notice that on the far left? that's a male
https://youtu.be/TBYYlvQhdkU

>>1150832
He conveniently omits the fact that Towa had to battle for a while to be able to participate in it, Matsuri dodged the subject for a few days until it was really official and even then, they have to add their managers in the group conversations

>>1150928
Sorry, I meant for >>1150874

Wait, I thought that homobegging was mostly ironic but these guys are serious.

>>1150874
Thats different competition anon and this particular CR cup had a rule where the teams must have mixed gender, so there have to be a male.

>>1150817
>Few clips
Now I starting to believe that you're the clip watchers
>>1150826
Again give me your definition of GFE? I'm not dismissing Rushia hardwork. but Rushia do roleplay as girlfriend on her stream a lot, that's count as GFE. Now compared that Haneru, arguably the most superchatted female youtuber outside Holo and Niji, she also engage with her chat a lot but she never acts like she's chats girlfriend
>>1150874
And I bet you don't know that twapper manager must be in the group chat the entire time as the condition to allow her join the CR cup

>>1150874
>>1150928
Thats CR Cup not Hal's VTuber Tournament though.

>>1151014
No even Mio thinks that Towa should be allowed to be without supervision

>>1150826
Anon, Rushia does have a certain level of hardwork put into her streams, but "maintaining" a relationship between her and the viewers and making them feel included as if they were talking directly to her as if they were just a couple of 2 is literally what GFE is

>>1151061
I wonder if they actually practiced APEX offstream because Towa doesn't want to stream with a restriction.

>>1150506
I know most here didn't watch ppt's 3d debut live, but every time towa had screen time in it, views would dip a few thousand every time and recover after her time was done. This kind of thing does happen.

>>1150662
>Anon think you just have to deal with the fact that Kanata just fucking gay, she has been "yuribaiting" for years
Couldn't you say this about literally any instance of Yuribait though? Yuribait ain't usually just a one time thing it generally drags out for quite a while

>>1150537
>>1151014
You MUST like her, else you are just a beggar or a clipwatcher. There are more than enough existing good holos so I have to give a fuck about her cheesy voice and her raging menhara meltdowns, let alone risk hearing impairement. If you really wanted to quantify chat engagment, you would be less in bad faith and use subs count to measure it to include the poorfags instead of the SC earnings.
Having mainly akasupas distort measurements and shows that their audience is insane to spend all that money on a single person in a regular basis. That goes way beyond any competency of *engaging better with the chat" than average, while it is something that most holos are quite good at it (Okayu is more interesting to me, do a fair amount of zatsudans but doesn't attract as crazy gachikois as Rushia).
Also, I don't care about her longass SC readings, especially when she often overlaps special events like 3D streams, birthdays and outfit reveals

>>1151150
>You MUST like her
Well I never claimed that I hate Rushia and I watch her stream if the game interest me. I just don't agree with your claim that Rushia is not GFE

Homobeggars really managed to constantly prove themselves thing single worst fanbase in the board

>>1151014
My definition of GFE? I don't have one because that is a fucking retarded term made by shitters who think every holo who leans on their chat a little much is a "GFE" holo
>>1151125
wow... I can't believe tyler1 provides the boyfriend experience on stream because he singles out names out and makes them feel included... really gives off the abusive boyfriend experience...
This is how retarded you sound. It is a streamer's job to make the viewers feel engaged with the stream be it theough interesting commentary, gameplay or making quips back and forth with the chat
>>1151150
No, I just think calling rushia GFE is a take even dumber than rushia's IQ. I find her a fun watch sometimes but I wouldn't watch her over my oshi if she was streaming

>>1151276
>My definition of GFE? I don't have one
If you don't have one then why you sure that Rushia is not GFE. You can't define a thing is not something if you don't have the definition.

>>1150036
GFE model literally began with Aqua

Wrong website homosharts

>>1150699
Yes, Moona even told men to apply for ID2 if they wanted to.

imagine collabing with that big tiddy girl on the right

>>1153038
>"""girl"""

>>1155318
>>"""girl"""
>"""girls"""