/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Reps.

Kiara can because that was her goal for like 10 years at this point.

>>10993255
Yes she is, just not about me

>>10993255
Anon, you already got an existing shitty bait thread regarding this. This stopped being the flavor of the week after new gen announcement. Create better bait next time.

Ina is a whore, Gura respects her fans. No wonder she's 2M subs ahead

>>10993255
Are we actually having fun with vtubers or are we just having fun mingling with other fans and being a part of a community?

>>10995356
based and shark pilled

>>10995356
Not depending Ina but she isn't a whore.

Wanna fuck her takopussy tho

>>10995468
Does Hololive not have their own dedicated forum? I feel like with how big these girls are getting, youtube streamchat is moving way too fast, it feels like I'm in forsen's stream with how chaotic it is. It's kind of hard to be part of a community and mingle with other fans when there's thousands of voices ringing out every minute. At this point I'm really only watching for the interactions between chuubas.

>>10995468
the latter
I wouldn't give a shit about vtubers if not for this board.
Shitposting is fun, streams are usually pretty boring

There are people who feel obligated to watch every single stream to not miss anything.

Whereas Kronii+mumei doesn't even know who marine is. And the max effort gura puts in is along the lines of "jwu what happened last night? peko got killed by rat? kronii did some autistic screeching? peko suba war starting up again? cool thx for update but w/e i don't really care"

It is their literal job to keep up to date and they don't put in the amount of time you losers do. Face it. This is abnormal.

>>10996692
I don't even watch VTubers anymore. I just shitpost here and occasionally fap to the porn.

>>10993255
I would drag my erect dick over broken glass and salt to hear my oshi whisper "kimitachi~" over the internet

>Real twitch girls
CRINGE!!!
>anime girl??? In twitch???
SO TRUE! GOTTA WATCH EVERY STREAM EVER

>>10996899
That's where you made a mistake pal, you used Twitch

>>10996927
Can't believe you took the bait. You're right, TWITCH is the problem... lmao

>>10996377
She's a married woman, don't talk about her takopussy like that.

>>10996998
>She's a married woman
Source

>>10997218
Omegatroon is her husband, send him a marshmallow.

>>10993255
I never spend money on vtubers.
I only watch clips and asmr, almost never watch streams, mostly archives if ever.
I don't engage in chat.
I don't buy merch.
I don't listen to their '''songs'''.
In the end they're just a bunch of borderline mentally ill girls and I'm just a borderline mentally ill weeb that needs his dose of anime girl roleplay from time to time.
If I'm pathetic for being their target audience then they're pathetic for trying to pander to people like me.
A whore can't say their clients are pathetic if she's letting them fuck her, it's projection and living in denial.

>>10997265
I refuse to believe someone as likeable as Ina has such a fucking dislikeable autist as a husband. As far as I know she and OA/Enma were FFXIV friends but that's it. Post proof.

>>10997400
Sad, Infinity is a banger despite the Haachama english.

>>10997458
OA/AncientOnes/OmegaAlpha are the same person, send him a Marshmallow.

He's also the manager who harassed marine a year ago.

>>10993255
Yes. Don't cope, acceptance is healthier in the long run.

>>10993255
YES. We watch fucking anime girls fumble around and make cute noises instead of actually doing something with ourselves. Denial will get you all nowhere.

>>10997491
Yes I know they are the same person.

However there's a big difference between OA/Enma is Ina's mod and manager, and OA/Enma is Ina's husband.

>>10997701
Yeah, there's a huge difference. Unfortunately it's the latter one though.

>>10995356
Ok gosling Gura just a trained e girl who knows how to play the game already it us unfair it is compared for her to be compared to actual idols

>>10993255
Wait, Ina really said that?

>>10993255
Is it any worse than sitting on the couch for six hours binging Netflix or watching people kick a ball into a net?

>>10997786
Yes.

Since we're making up shit anyway, I'm assuming the "Omega is Ina's husband" rrat came from some seething unicorn who has been falseflagging as a tastunoko for months ever since Coco's graduation.

>>10997880
No, it comes from a tonne of circumstantial evidence and some assumptions. I think it's true because it makes a lot of sense and seems credible.

>>10997921
And that evidence is...?

>>10997921
>because it makes a lot of sense and seems credible.
Anon this is some of the most retarded schizo shit I have read on this site. There are more credible ways of smearing a Hololive girl than saying her manager is akschually her husband.

>>10998060
Ask a doxposter, it's well established that Ina is married.
Ask a doxposter, it's well established that Ina lives with her parents.

Supposition
>Ina's husband is working overseas that's why she's living with her parents
>Ina's husband works in asia

Facts
>Omegatroon harassed marine a year ago
>Omegatroon was HoloEN's first employee
>HoloEN does not have many managers (Kiara, Ame, and Gura share 1 person)
>Ina is close to one of the managers, variously called "Ancient Ones", "OA", "ENMA" etc.
>ENma is not the manager shared by Kiara, Ame and Gura.
>Enma is not Calli's manager "J-Chad"
>Omegatroon is the only one unaccounted for.

Supposition
>There are less managers than talents (otherwise why would they share)
>Omegatroon is unaccounted for, but is incredibly unlikely to be either Genma or J-chad
>Omegatroon is ENMA/OmegaAlpha/AncientOnes/Ina's husband.

>>10997880
Bitch, Omega is Ina.

>>10993255
In the long run we all should focus our time and efforts on science and hard work, so that we can conquer all of time and space, build an everlasting empire and end suffering of all the species of the multiverse. Each second wasted on anything else prolongs the entropy of the existence and is an incurable sin, but there is no one who can judge you, especially not some woman working as a vtuber and an artist. Her life's work is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Scientists and engineers watching vtubers in their free time do much more for the world than she ever will.
But in the end that's just my opinion. Who and how could judge what's right and what's wrong? Maybe the answer lies in spending your days watching clouds go by, because none of the hard work will ever amount to anything and human race was never meant to achieve anything of importance.
Just do what you want.

>>10998305
>Ask a doxposter, it's well established that Ina is married.
This is literally the first time I see this and I have done my reps.

>>10998418
>I've done my reps
>I don't know what you're talking about
Up your reps.

>>10993255
Anyone who spends a single cent is pathetic. Freeloaders are the real chads of the vtubing fandom. We're the unobtainable that will forever elude their grasp.

>>10997491
>OA/AncientOnes/OmegaAlpha
...so you're telling me he was always like that and it wasn't just him going full schizo/chuuni when EN2 got worked on?
Fuck's sake Yagoo, toss this guy and his KH fanfic-tier "lore" already.
>>10998397
>In the long run we all should focus our time and efforts on science and hard work, so that we can conquer all of time and space, build an everlasting empire and end suffering of all the species of the multiverse. Each second wasted on anything else prolongs the entropy of the existence and is an incurable sin, but there is no one who can judge you, especially not some woman working as a vtuber and an artist. Her life's work is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Scientists and engineers watching vtubers in their free time do much more for the world than she ever will.
>But in the end that's just my opinion. Who and how could judge what's right and what's wrong? Maybe the answer lies in spending your days watching clouds go by, because none of the hard work will ever amount to anything and human race was never meant to achieve anything of importance.
Incredibly based take, but you're still a fag for replying to what is clearly intended to be the #233566th stealth INA NEEDS TO RESPECT HER FANS WAAAH thread, when in reality the real news item is the utter retardation on her part of assuming that everyone's in her timezone working a 9-5, because come on.

>>10998305
>literally assuming all of this because Ina lives with her parents
I can't even blame this on SEAnigs since the stereotype there is that people move out of their parents' house when they get married.
t. burger

>>10998397
Arts are important. Human beings are not machines that can just produce and think productively all the time and keep producing. They need an outlet for imagination. Most of the greatest scientists and thinkers loved reading and listening to music, even if it was ultimately pointless.

>>10998546
It's based on Kiara's frequent comments about Jenma, Omegatroon's refusal to accompany mori to the trash taste podcast, Doxposts, timelines for Omegatroon's career, assumptions made about the management structure of HoloEN, and I called a friend of Ina on discord and she told me the whole thing in exchange for some rare final fantasy skin codes.

>>10998472
I know of that photo with the 2 hands from like 10 years ago but that isn't a proof that she's fucking married. She seems to spend all her time on her job, her second job, and watching anime. There's literally no time for a relationship in her life considering she sleeps on the floor to be as uncomfortable as possible to wake up early and keep drawing for her contracts. In her parents house.

This is literally too retarded to be true. A schizo fantasy born when you saw Enma and Ina being friendly.

Takodachis cannot handle the truth

>>10995356
>Gura respects her fans.
No "top vtuber" outright respects their fans. Gura is very calculated with it all and knows exactly what she's doing. Everything down to the art she uses in thumbnails, to the UWU voice, innuendos and freudian slips is done on purpose. That's how you get ahead, not by "respecting their fans". While Ina and many others just wing it.

>>10998920
>If I uwu 5 decibels higher, my supachat income will raise 13%...

>>10998660
>I just totally casually asked a friend of Ina and they totally gave me all of this doxx trust me
Omega being Ina's husband is unironically more believable than this, try harder next time retard.

>>10998920
I unironically think the EN that respects her fans the most is Kiara. She knows what it feels to hit true rock bottom and knows her fans are just maybe in a funk, doesn't pities them and tries to be a positive influence. All of the rest have been kind of coddled or got hit by fame too hard and suddenly they have a horde of undersireable men wooing them and throwing away their money.

>>10999094
Calli started to appreciate her simps. She used to despise them and want to hang out with her rapper "friends" but after what they've done to her she started to lean more on lonely despicable manchlidren.

>>10999076
kek
>>10998920
Honestly I think she's just a natural. She knows the culture, she's a nerd and a dork and being entertaining to the vtuber target audience just comes easily to her.

>>10999088
That's because that one is true. I'm unsure why people seem alarmed by Ina being married, you would think they would be happy for her.

>>10999217
Yeah I noticed that too. Everyone else treats her kind of badly while on the Hololive side she is KAKKOI KARI-SAN the girl who went to ambiciously fulfill her dream against all odds and everyone respects her, especially the most tryhardy idols.
When you are exposed to that kind of whiplash for so long you tend to change your opinion.

>>10999373
Ina deserves better than OA. If it were true(and this retarded bullshit has a 0.00001% chance of being true) then she chose really badly. I would just feel bad for her.

>>10999504
But it is true. Not only that, he's a short guy, he's literally 5'5".
Ina's chuuni-Manlet husband is Omegatroon.

>>10999373
Anon I'm sorry you'll never be able to marry Ina but this schizo shit you're doing is not doing you any favors.

>>10998920
This line of reasoning keeps coming up and it just makes me wonder if the amount of people in relationships on here isn't at least 50 - 180 times higher than the amount of people that can conceive of liking and enjoying your job and customers (without also wanting to fuck/befriend them).

Like does everyone here work retail or a shit code mill?
Why does a desire for excellence and pride in one's ability to entertain have to have some sinister overtones?
Have none of you ever done something and enjoyed the skill and appreciation of said skill?

We all have our stories. Many of us are emotionally deprived.
But increasingly the more alarming part is that everyone on /vt/ who isn't a NEET seems to absolutely loathe every single person at their job and around them and seems incapable of believing someone would have a different experience.

>>10999217
>She used to despise them and want to hang out with her rapper "friends" but after what they've done to her
What happened?
>>10999377
>Yeah I noticed that too. Everyone else treats her kind of badly while on the Hololive side she is KAKKOI KARI-SAN the girl who went to ambiciously fulfill her dream against all odds and everyone respects her, especially the most tryhardy idols.
It's actually pretty fucking funny how Calli seems to be the person every single Chuuba seems to look up to, even people with far better >numbers than her and people that don't really watch her type of content.

Girl's got /lore/ around her.

>>10999643
I have no interest in Ina, she's boring.

>>10999355
I'm not doubting she's a natural. It's exactly because she knows the culture and her audience that she's so succesful. She knows how to give them what they want in a very seemless way. A lot of people think she lucked out but I honestly believe she's cunning in the way she does things to make it work. Although, I still think she's surprised at simply how well it DOES work though. Which is why it can feel a little daunting and awkward being at the top, so she tends to dodge around questions regarding numbers and popularity.

>>10993255
>are we pathetic for spending so much time on vtubers?
There is a point where you can go overboard with vtuber obsession but at the end of the day, this whole phenomenon makes sense to me.

>mori has now become part of the luthorposting universe
hilarious

Gura respects her fans
Mori used to despise her fans but respects them now
Amelia has a love-hate relationship with her fans
Kiara loves her fans
Ina used to respect her fans but despise them now

Am I getting it right?

>>11000038
> Kiara loves her fans.
Citation needed.

>>11000075
>streams for 10 hours multiple days in the same week just chatting with KFP

>>11000038
>Mori used to despise her fans but respects them now

5%

>>11000038
I'm pretty sure Ina doesn't hates her fans but just pities the most extreme ones. The ones that say "OMG ur stream saved my life" while dropping several akas. Like how do you even respond to that? She chooses to ignore them but they are bound to linger on the back of her mind.
Meanwhile when she gets messages like "Ina I just graduated college and got a good job" she genuinely congratulates them. I know what she's trying to do. She tries to encourage them to advance with their lives but those feelings also come from a place where she thinks her fans are kind of lame by default

>>10998660
Based anon who does the reps. Your logic is extremely believable and I trust you. It also makes a lot of sense how Holocouncil has two members with close ties to Ina too. She probably pulled strings to get them in.

>>11000372
His reps is literally "Source:trust me bro".
I admire his dedication to rrat peddling but I'm afraid he's on a dead end rrat with no future beyond this thread.

>>10993255
implying these women actually care and aren't just being the needlessly judgmental/condescending animals they always are.

>>11000372
Yes. Also the coco collab ban was partly due to her room mate's close working relationship with the bugmen, so Omegatroon distanced them despite widespread public support for Coco.

>>11000331
I honestly think that Ina just has Korean standards and tends to see everything as a challenge, so the ones who she know that they are not trying are treated without any respect, is just how korean society works, basically it's inherent in her being like this

>>11000463
I never asked you to trust me. I showed you the world as I saw it, I didn't demand you accept it.
Subjective truth is the future of rratposting.

>>11000475
>>10998305
>>10999586
This actually makes a lot of sense

>>10999094
KFPs are delusional. actual battered wife syndrome right here.

>>11000038
Hard to say for certain but it seems about right.
At the end of the day >>11000331 a streamer shapes their fanbase and without wanting to throw shade at Ina her 'thing' effectively defaults to 'comforting', and people that seek out comfort from streamers aren't bound to be someone said streamer is going to respect by default.
Same story with Ame. Her content selects for people that wish they could recapture their lost youth and repeatedly relieve that one moment the bland-looking girl next door gave them a smile.

It, too, makes for a crowd that isn't going to be entirely respectable.
In short: This is a multi-faceted deal. Base attitude aside the content & persona is what makes a fanbase more or less likely to be enjoyed by the person making said content.

>>11000498
Her self esteem issues then come from growing up with that mentality. She graduated college and inmediatly went full NEET for years. She makes fucking bank now but for years she was the disappointment of her family, playing games and drawing cartoons all day instead of getting a job. Even if they are kinda sweet now they are still strict asian parents and spending several years raising her just so that your smart daughter ends up like that must have stung until she started seeing a return on her art. She'll never be complacent even if she makes bank because a part of her still thinks she's the same kind of loser she was years ago with the only difference being that she makes money now.

>>10993255
it's only pathetic if you waste time watching ina.
maybe if you just have her on as background noise while you do your reps that's okay, but dedicating time to watch that boring and entitled cunt is a pretty pathetic waste of your time

ina treats hololive as a hobby, makes no effort to be entertaining, has her priorities in other companies and is overall a bit of a cunt.

>>11000791
>Her content selects for people that wish they could recapture their lost youth and repeatedly relieve that one moment the bland-looking girl next door gave them a smile.
uuuh DELETERONI??

>>10993255
The fact she had to apologize for that clearly says a lot.

>>11000901
>uuuh DELETERONI??
What.

>>11000994
I think he was trying to do that "delete this" joke but did it in a weird way.
Or maybe he's a 90's comedian like Ace Ventura the Pet Detective and he's just making noises for comedic purposes.

>>11000846
It explains a lot of things actually, Japanese mindset for example is similar, but actually only applied to middle-aged people, younger generations are more condescending with Otaku-type people, that's why in the JP side they are not being too harsh with them. But Koreans are still like this, and they will be like this if they continue imposing their mindset, I mean they are not wrong with wanting your son to be successful but that pressure can make things worse

>>11000965
Yeah, her husband OmgeaAlpha yelled at her.

>>11000498
>>11000846
As a Korean. This is all very painfully true. Although she seems mentally strong, I hope Ina does not burn out from those feelings.

>>11000846
>She graduated college and inmediatly went full NEET for years.
when did she ever say this? sounds like some weird saviour projection. she said she was depressed but i never remember her saying she was a neet

>>11001303
Objectively untrue, too.

>>11001323
Yeah she magically gained all of her contracts and raised her art level instantly. Right.

She spent years without seeing a return on her art. She was just another amateur until like 2018. When she says she's grateful to her parents it means she's grateful they didn't kick her out of the house or forced her to get a job during all those years between her college graduation and her becoming good enough at art to be employed. She got good because she was allowed to stay in her room polishing her skills.

>>11001303
>>11001323
A beginner professional artist may as well be NEET for how little income you have and how making it at that level is just as much a matter of luck as anything else.

>>11001323
>>11001516
>>11001519
Ina is deceptive, no wonder she keeps her 5'5" manlet husband who works at Cover as OmegaAlpha a secret from takodachis.

>>11001519
fucking normalfags love to water down the term neet and appropriate it for their sad projections

>>11000846
>because a part of her still thinks she's the same kind of loser she was years ago with the only difference being that she makes money now.
Is that wrong?

>>11001627
Let's be honest when your only income is your small patreon you are a NEET. Ina didn't always had a job she had to do comissions and follow trends for a while while she did her reps to git good.

>>11001936
>Ina didn't always had a job she had to do comissions and follow trends for a while while she did her reps to git good.
got a source? any pictures of her old work? previous twitter handles she used? where is this commissioned work? where are these trend illustrations?

>>10993255
>are we pathetic
t. anon from 4chan

>>11002000
Danbooru reps. Older alias is the same as always

>>10997797
normies have literally beaten each other to death over divegrass and think this is somehow better than watching chuubas

>>10993255
She was only talking Mori and Ina there. Yes, you're actually pathetic if you watch those two basic bitches. They don't even attempt to sound entertaining. Nothing but "anime girls being bad at games"

>>11002216
>Basic bitches
>Actual artists that produce content
They are not entertainers, sure, but basic bitches they aren't

>>11002274
>jesus jesus japanesus
much art

>>11002216
Go watch Mori's latest English teaching stream right now.

>>11002216
Anon, basic bitches are those that just care about their appearance, pose at starbucks, and have nothing in their mind.

An autist that draws cartoon girls for 10 hours a day every day and an autist that went to japan to fucking rap are NOT basic bitches. They are freaks. Complete outliers.

Being bad at vidya doesn't means they are basic bitches, it just means they are women.

>>10996692
This
Clips are the way to go, not going full gosling hypnotizing yourself to a woman for hours on end

>>10993255
My peepee go spring when sharky on screen

>>10997400
Based And truthpilled
A decade ago these girls would be permanent walmart greeters

>>10996927
>>10996972
E-thots IS the problem and always has been from the start

>>10999649
>What happened?
Basically they were jealous of her. This tends to happen in niche music scenes. Someone gets popular, others start to feel jealous since they think they're better and deserve it more.

>>10993255
cmon man, you can't be that high on copium. of course she is. this existence is a joke for others to laugh at.

>>11006390
>Basically they were jealous of her. This tends to happen in niche music scenes. Someone gets popular, others start to feel jealous since they think they're better and deserve it more.
Was this before or after she became Calli?
As in, is her joining Hololive the reason or does it predate that?
And yeah, niche creative scenes are VICIOUS.
People hem and haw and whinge and whine about the fakeness and backstebbery of Hollywood & big label music but it's got nothing on people who have just a little fame and think they're entitled to more.

>>10999076
literally unironically this. there's a team of psychologists, sound technicians and social scientists running mockup streams for her behind the scenes. why do you think she takes "vacations" so often? it's planning and rehearsing time. She barely has any time left to sleep and eat.

>>10996692
>>10996726
/vt/ literally speedrunning /v/'s outlook on the medium their board is dedicated to

>>10998666
ogey takokek, do your reps. newfag, lurkmor

>>10997400
>Least based truthpilled person.

You know, usually I'd be the first to rage at a bitch for roleplaying as idol online while being married (maybe not an EN branch whore, literally zero expectations from the get go to begin with), but man, 5'5"? It's just too ridiculous for even the unicorniest of unicorns to get mad at, even if you're a takotard.

>>11006890
after

>>11012315
>after
Ah then I can see it.

>>10993255
Are you pathetic for watching? No, are you pathetic for superchating? No (though this one depends), the only reason you're pathetic if you form a parasocial relationship or/and If you get offended by stupid shit like ina said, if you are in the last two then you're a certified faggot

>>10996899
Hanah pls go

>>10997400
>If I'm pathetic for being their target audience then they're pathetic for trying to pander to people like me.
Basado

>>10998305
>>10999586
>>11000662
Stop samefagging schizo

>>10997400
A bit edgy but I agree.

>>10997400
This anon gets it, everything about vtubing is pathetic. Just accept that and keep enjoying things.

>>10996717
Kronii does not know Marine? Links?

I don't overthink it, before I was watching stupid shit now every day im excited about the stuff to watch.
Before hololive I was judgemental of nerdy girls, thought they were boring, gross and even unkind compared to girls who partied a lot for example.
I guess there are just certain girls out there who give that bad impression.

>>10993255
The problem is that we live in a rotten decaying degenerative society that promotes entertainers as divinity moral figures. And we the audience that is supposed to be their boss are now treated as their pets. Back in the glory days when males were the leaders, warriors, and kings and females don't have the right to vote, and homosexuals were burned alive, the entertainers were the clowns just with the task of entertaining the kings and knights. They used to be humble, and know their place in society simply to entertain the elite and never dared to interfere with politics like these modern entertainers of today. In conclusion, vtubers are OUR SLAVES, not some fucking moral authority to trash the audience. We pay their livelihood and in return, they have to thank us. If that doesn't happen they have to get fired.
Thanks for your time.

>>11012984
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>>11013369
i'm sure she knows the names of all the members at least. the closest is probably kronii not recognizing the note block version of Ahoy and thought it was a one piece song. or not recognizing any of the major landmarks in jp server and had no idea what the sport festival was

This is all very sad but she didn't read my fucking supa

>>10997400
My eyes have been opened. thank you

>>11000075
Love isn't quite it, she's addicted to having people validate her

>>10995468
the latter, Ina's words and the twitch payouts gave me a good "what are you doing" moment, I've watched pieces of streams lately but the fun kinda died for me and diablo 2 is just more enjoyable

>>11013892
Fucking grifter whore

Vtubers are best as background noise while you do something useful with your time.

>>11015234
That's fine and all but I think being a pathetic loser is something you'd realise immediately.
>Have sex? meet girls in real life? nah I have vtubers to watch

>>10996717
Their job is to entertain their audience. Going by the amount of money they rake in, they are doing that just fine. What happens in JP is of no concern whatsoever.

>>11010338
another day, another rrat slain

>>10993255
what Ina did wrong was not pointing out that some people are losers for spending too much time watching vtubers, but rather being so uncharitable as to apply that to her entire audience. You can be a fan of vtubers in a healthy way that doesn't suck up your entire life

>>11016969
I am under impression that majority of her audience did not take it that way. Like, if I'm watching that VOD in the evening after work, am I a total loser too?

>>11017079
Worse. You're a holobrony. Might as well watch the latest Marvel movie.

>>11017183
Expand your argument. Is having a job bad?

>>10998920
The only rrat I believe about Gura playing up her game 100% is designing her current voice around Gura specifically. I say this because she has had VA experience and knows how to change her voice as seen in past things and valley girl shit. I think she was able to settle at the voice for Gura now and that's why her voice seems to match the avatar so perfectly. Because Gura did that on purpose which isn't a bad thing because it works. It's no different from your favorite VA doing iconic character lines in that voice because it was good voice.

>>11017342
>she has had VA experience
An amount so little to be completely irrelevant.
>valley girl shit
Which is very, very easy to pick up. Rrat did it in a matter of a hot minute.

Gura doesn't have much range in voices beyond little shit Senzawa on one end and cutesy Gura on the other. I say this as a shrimp.

>>10993255
Honestly, the fact alone that you're posting on /vt/ is pathetic enough already. Either suck up and admit that she's right or just move on with your life and find another hobby

I don't buy memberships or supachat any chuubas. My conscience is clean.

>start a bait thread
>flip on and off airplane mode and continually post in it to keep it bumped

>>10998660
>rare final fantasy skin codes
What the fuck are you talking about

>>10996717
>Whereas Kronii+mumei doesn't even know who marine is.
Thats because no decent person would want to be associated with her. People only interact with her for numbers or because management forces them to. Mori has likely informed them on this.

>>10999094
I don't think Kiara respects her fans the most, I think she's co-dependent on them. She craves validation and her fans give that to her.
But I also think you're right about her having hit rock bottom in the past (which is why she's thin skinned earnest with her chat), and the kind of desperate/broken/lonely people who engage with streamers. The question is whether she recognizes how unhealthy being their therapist is.

>>11017974
She's not their therapist, that's the whole problem right here. She's sitting in the very next ward!
I think there may be a market for unironic self-help chuuba. Like, gives a pep talk, teaches you immediately usable life stuff.

>>11017974
>The question is whether she recognizes how unhealthy being their therapist is.
just engaging with them doesnt mean she is their therapist

It was very out of character what Ina did.Ahahahahahahha uahahahahahhah Even Mori was embarrassed. Ahahahahhahahahahahahah

Now KYS simps losers!

>>11017553
I have 2 memberships
paid for in ARS

>>11019587
We should all pay in ARS. That will show our true appreciation.

>>10993255
she told the truth and (You) should decide if that is a good thing or not