/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

so many other chuubas just seem fine with playing games on stream. that's it. just playing games while live streaming. every one of them all stagnate at low double digits. if you want to make it, you need to do more than just go live and play a game.

>>10791608
That's what I've been doing and people seem to enjoy it, now it's a matter of getting my stuff out there so more people come by

>>10791608
so what's your suggestion to add then? Talk, do art, RPG sessions?

>>10793575
Share what you're most passionate about in a fun way. Love TTRPGs? Talk about them, run a session with other chuubas, explain the rules, paint miniatures, etc. There's an unlimited number of types of content out there, no reason to only play videogames.

>>10793575
listen to Randon and Slugma and realize you need to provide value to your audience. the easiest thing that chuubas can do is to treat streaming like a performance. when the stream starts, your viewers are watching an experience, not just some person goes live and plays a game for 2 hours. not saying that it needs to be a fully scripted 1 hour long tv show levels of production value. but it has to be more than doing nothing but just playing a game and grunting now and then.

A couple of questions.

How important is it to have a separate Steam account for chubbing? I've been planning to include dota in my streams, if they happen haha, and it's been a huge hassle to get into ranked.
>inb4 stream your required hundred hours

Should I bother streaming on a small site like Odysee? I ask this because twitch's site culture and lingo don't sit well with me for some reason. My main options are still Youtube and Facebook, though Facebook is only there because it's somehow the main streaming platform on my region and Youtube might still be my main platform anyway but I don't like how corporate Youtube has become; and Twitch is even worse on this respect imo.

Finally, where can I freely play music without losing the audio for the whole stream?

Just a quick question, it's been a while but I was previously linked a source here about how to make a 2d image be linked to your discord voice thing? Sort of like what some chuubers do during collabs, where the image jumps and lights up when in use.

>>10796138
https://discord-reactive-images.fugi.tech/

>>10795175
>because twitch's site culture and lingo don't sit well with me for some reason.
this is because you're a fucking retard. the streamer cultivate their chat culture. if you don't want annoying pop ups, turn them off. viewers who are looking for that shit won't stick around. simple as. it's fucking hilarious /asp/ies come in here thinking they'll have a chat culture that even comes close to the shit you see on the front page when you won't even have an active chatter for your first 2 months of streaming if you even make it that long.

>>10796313
>chat culture
I'm taking from the same pool of people that created, adopted, and currently propagate twitch's site culture, how am I not going to get a chat that's like 80 % the same as other chats?
Either way, you're not really making a good case for me to get into twich.

>>10797018
>I'm taking from the same pool of people that created, adopted, and currently propagate twitch's site culture
lmao, no you're not. you think some zoomer coked up on fortnite and energy drinks is going to tune into some no name 2view vtuber's channel? fuck off with your delusions.
>Either way, you're not really making a good case for me to get into twich.
go fucking stream on your retarded site or trovo or facebook for all i care. facts are still facts. as the streamer, you control the chat culture and the type of viewers you get no matter where you go. only difference is on those shitty sites you're gonna be drawing from retards who couldn't cut it on twitch and looking to blame something else for their lack of success.

>>10793717
i can't find slugma anywhere, only that dumb meme pops up

>>10796200
Thank you!

>>10797357
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGNxKTqNK3GMjgvgUixJroQ
she's one of the managers of tsunderia and before her hiatus, she used to do a lot of videos about general content creation and vtuber behind the scenes

>>10791608
This.
A good exercise to do is to write down what you're good at or knowledgeable about. Surely there's something about you that might seem as normal and mundane but it would be completely new and interesting to other people. The key thing is to be really passionate about that thing you like and to not force yourself.

>>10795175
I really don’t get the Twitch culture meme. I read YouTube chats and they’re not any better.
Regardless, I’ve been in plenty of smaller Twitch chats and they’re perfectly normal. You know how people on the rest of the board say “like streamer like audience”? It’s like that on Twitch too. You’ll get a group of people who you’ll get along with no matter what, and the Ludwig/XQC/Critikal types will leave you alone.

>>10797157
>some zoomer coked up on fortnite and energy drinks
At times I think I'd rather get some of to be desu.

>>10797830
How is the process of getting this group of people?

>>10798026
if you want the perfect example of getting a zoomer audience, look at Kaori Lupine https://twitter.com/KaoriLupine/status/1443631833116258306/video/1 and advertise yourself on tiktok with high energy and overexaggerated reactions.

this works better with 3D since it's gonna cost a lot to render over exaggerated expressions in 2D and also get them rigged well enough to be convincing.

>>10798181
Thanks but I was being dismissive of that anon saying drugged 5 year olds are somehow worse than the literal mongs that just post lettered hieroglyphics in chat.
I could give that a try but I'm not a particularly energetic person myself. I doubt I could keep that level all the time.

>>10798446
>I could give that a try but I'm not a particularly energetic person myself. I doubt I could keep that level all the time.
this is really why every /asp/ie should just slap a PNG and get started streaming for at least a month before thinking about debut. you won't know what kind of content will come naturally to you or if that's the type of stuff you want to make personally. it wouldn't make sense to debut as a high energy creative gremlin only to realize that you're burnt out just one month down the line.

>>10798526
>have been doing sporadic test streams to friends while waiting to get my png done
>artist I was working with suddenly encountered tech difficulties and is waiting on a new drawing tablet
Sometimes I feel as if the universe is punishing me for not immediately jumping in during the boom like my friends did, but I'm determined to get this going, and nothing short of my computer exploding will stop me

>>10798526
I think I have something to do tests with, only have to rig it because I'd like to have the skill in case I can use it for something else, and am good to go.
Sadly, vaedotube is out of the question at the moment. /adv/ told me to ignore the trannies and corporate tyrants and focus on my own stuff but it's hard for me.

>>10799578
>ignore the trannies and corporate tyrants and focus on my own stuff but it's hard for me.
i don't understand. are they going out of their ways to personally interfere with your practice streams?

>>10799774
They put a tranny flag on vaedotube mini.
Being a 420chan exile, I don't even want to give them a single download.

>>10799870
...ok? so use the discord reactive images thing instead?

>>10799934
>discord
I've refrained from even touching Discord after they did that shit of banning vanilla conservative discords while almost giving endorsements to bestiality and cub porn discords a long time ago.

>>10800035
...ok? so use the fugi tech alternative instead?

>>10800062
Don't I still need a Discord account to use that?
First thing that pops up on their site is a discord login button.

>>10800153
yes, but at this point, i don't think you're being genuine about wanting to be a chuuba with those buzzwords you've been spewing out. you'll probably do better just going live on Parler or Gab with "your people"

>>10800196
>"your people"
idunno, why should I have to put up with Discord when I can just look for an alternative?
I know it'd be much easier to just accept Discord but I wouldn't feel good giving traffic to a service that ignored, in the best of assumptions, having literal pedophiles working for them.

>>10800560
ok

dead thread

>>10800035
Good luck fostering a community and being active within it at all, and good luck interacting with other chuubas as well. Give up. You won't make it, you already clearly don't have a sociable personality

I'll be honest about something as a viewer and I'd be interested to hear y'all's thoughts on it coming from the other side of the fence.

I feel extremely awkward about money when it comes to watching low-viewer and aspiring Vtubers. With bigger streamers, it's clear that you're viewing content being created by a content creator for an audience, so it reasonably makes sense that you would donate or pay in a way that feels reasonable for the content you're getting to watch and to help support the content creator in question.

But with Vtubers with extremely low viewer counts, for whatever reason it feels extremely awkward to me to donate in what feels like more of a "watching an online friend play a game they like" environment. All of a sudden it feels like there's an obligation on both ends to acknowledge and respond to being paid to an extent that doesn't really exist for high view chuubas, where instead their audience is a large mass of people with a varied pool of donors. On top of that, if you superchat a small viewer regularly for something it immediately becomes apparent if you stop or don't at some point in the future. That, and I haven't even started to get into the whole angle that a low-view chuuba absolutely needs your monetary support more than a larger one might even in spite of all of those social barriers.


Are there any ways to help break down that barrier and reduce the awkwardness that exists in a small audience with money involved, both for viewers and for the streamer themselves?

>>10806927
>y'all

>>10807204
being southern is officially a crime

>>10806927
Doing it anonymously is probably your best bet

>>10806927
>for whatever reason it feels extremely awkward to me to donate
then don't. simple as.

>>10806475
>you already clearly don't have a sociable personality
idunno, even if though I feel pretty comfortable being alone, I've never had any difficulty entering and making internet friends in online communities in the past.
For me, it's just that I don't want to help to pump blood into a pedophile nest. Maybe I'll have to try and convince people to move out of it.

>>10806927
do anonymous donos

for other chuubas out there, make sure you have the dono button on like week 2. you're going to get one eventually and nobody is going to think less of you unless they're already inclined towards being some weird asshole

>>10808561
>Maybe I'll have to try and convince people to move out of it.
>he thinks he can do this when he's scared of looking at a hashtag
i'm sure you and your four buddies will be able to create the widesweeping social media pressure to get the entire vtubing community to change their minds on twitter and discord. go back to /pol/ and suck each other's dicks off on parler, fascist.

>>10808561
You're going to convince people to leave the place where they interact with dozens of their friends and communities. Good luck.

>Finally get inspired to start out
>Series of blackouts because a bunch of niggers are stealling copper
>Roommate lost her job so she spends a lot more time at home
>Get a cold
Is the universe telling me to give up before starting?

Anyone have any good experiences with artist/riggers who run a little cheaper? Looking to get a model less for streaming, and moreso for just fucking around with friends in calls.
I know that theres a lot of resources out there, but if I'm gonna be throwing between $300-$500 at this, I'd much rather do so with testimonies.

>>10812239
The artist who did dot_lvl is relatively cheap but they might be backlogged. They're xiaojing1 on fiverr

>>10811731
god helps those who help themselves

one day the thread will have some good discussion without /pol/tard trolls shitting the place up

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You've been doing your streaming reps, right?

Sell me on Phase Connect.
What are their permissions like?
What percentage cut do the company take?
Do they help with advertising or setting up collabs?
Are their managers annoying?

>get nervous while streaming
>ibs makes me poop 10 times a hour from anxiety
im NGMI.......

>>10820152
Toilet ASMR chuuba

>>10820152
Get a long PVC pipe and just mute your mic if the sounds embarrass you
Or stream from the toilet. Whichever sounds easier

>>10820152
Can't you deal with IBS by having a restricted diet?

if you can't learn to deal with stress I guess you could just take the diaperpill.

>>10820048
they've been going!

>>10820048
Going pretty well, getting closer and closer to 20 average viewers per stream.

>>10820662
>>10821898
Nice! Do you do any shilling/networking or is it all just hitting "Go Live" and hoping for the best?

Okay, /asp/ies I have a question regarding lore.

I know it doesn't matter and how much you want to keep the kayfabe or work on said lore is up to you. This is old stuff, but I look at HoloCouncil and I see their lore pretty...Chuuni, for a lack of a better word, and how much big heads want the girls to rely/use it, when their selling point should be their personalities. The girls themselves are nice, but the chuuni when they were announced and debuts made me cringe a bit.

Does too much or too little lore put you off from watching other vtubers? Have you asked other people what they think about lore and kayfabe? Go chuuni or something simple?

>>10820054
>What are their permissions like?
They seem to have plenty of freedom but may need to ask for permission for certain stuff, depending on how asstight is whoever controls what you want to stream about.
>What percentage cut do the company take?
Nobody knows and this applies for all companies. Niji, Holo, etc.
>Do they help with advertising or setting up collabs?
So far I've seen they help with merch and collabs.
>Are their managers annoying?
Haven't heard anything about that, but my guess is as long as you don't overdo it with yabee you should be fine. Pippa covers plenty of stuff and she seems to be doing fine.

>>10824302
most viewers don't care about lore, going to ham on it is cringe, and the ones who do care heavily about lore will not subscribe or donate to you.

>>10824302
lore is only bad when the chuuba acts like they're looking back at their 100 word lore essay to reference for every single word that comes out of their mouth, but it can add flavor when utilized properly in conjunction with your usual personality and stories

>>10824507
I ask because it seems Cover wanted Council to use lore heavily thus the chuuni when they don't need to do that. The girls are talented and entertaining by themelves and adding super complex lore, be corpo or indie, feels very tryhard.
>>10824684
I don't have an essay but do have a list or renamed places and people for when I want to tell a story, for that flavor.

>>10824302
I like comics and writing. When I daydream about being a vtuber I always thought it would be a cool idea to work with an artist for a short webcomic series based around my character and maybe doing more if it's received well. Lore can be cool.

I don't mind the vtuber acting so long as it doesn't feel too forced.

>>10824859
>it seems Cover wanted Council to use lore heavily
no, you're reading too much into their promotional material.

for some reason i decided i'd draw and rig my own live2d model. haven't even finished the art yet and i already want to die. live2d looks terrifying. i opened it and immediately closed it again. going to need to look at some youtube tutorials and get a shitty result.

all this to become my own oshii baka.

>>10808780
>fascist
Not that anon, but found the vtweeer.
>>10811731
Never give up, anon. Tell your roomie you're gonna stream and need some quiet time. Try to stream as much as you can even with the blackout threat.
Tokino Sora had a very rough start but she never gave up. Same for Subaru. Not saying you'll get just as big, but perseverance goes a long way.

>>10825325
it sounds less like you want to be a chuuba and more like you want to find excuses to avoid actually streaming. there's been a handful of /asp/ies like you in the past who have set themselves out on a mission to do everything from scratch, only to get bogged down in the process of making the model and never actually getting to the streaming part.

if you're just doing it as a hobby to learn something new, more power to you. but if you're here to actually be a chuuba, this is the wrong path.

>>10825439
i don't care because i sleep well knowing that manchildren larpers like you will never make it. but you're free to prove me wrong. i'll wait. dog whistle "honey and clover tea is great for sore throats" if you ever do.

>>10824992
They already explained in an interview their intent was to tell a story with the characters

>>10825599
IN THEIR FUCKING PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS, ANON. have you seen their actual content? you think they're telling a story when they're doing impromptu minecraft collabs and hanging out speaking Valley Girl during Uno collabs?

Lore is great for short pieces of promotional material. it does not make for good LIVESTREAMING content. as an indie, no one is watching you for lore and you sure as hell aren't going to put in the work to fully script out an entire 2-3 hour stream 4x time a week just to larp an anime character. so just drop it. realize that vtubers are just streamers, not cartoon characters. no one cares about lore.

>>10825503
>being this assmad for being called a vtweeter
I did hit a nerve, huh.

>10825785
still waiting for the whistle to prove me wrong. any day now anon.

>>10825847
>calling people dog whistle as if it will ever pick up steam in name calling
And here I thought I was autistic for having actual personal in-jokes nobody will ever understand.

>>10825847
Just be aware that screaming on twatter and calling people any variant of -ist because they don't like some sites won't help you make it either, anon.
That other anon is stupid because he's fucking making it harder for himself and likely will ngmi; but calling someone else twitter buzzwords just gives away you ngmi either because, again, those are the type of people that just tweet (not even making memes) and scream at the void.
Get out of here, make content: stream, short videos, memes, gameplay videos a la Kizuna.

>>10826059
Anon that goaded that guy into throwing his first turd of the thread here.
I might actually get into Discord if I'm really in a slump and make a big joke about it. I don't like it but if people are so into virtual lolita island that they refuse to use anything else, I might just have to make a visit if necessary.

Can I get some answers on my other questions? I don't think I'd enjoy casually streaming dota without my personal trench diving playlist.

>>10797691
the only thing in passionate about is playing videogames. fuck

>>10799188
are your friends successful?

>>10826228
It's best if you make a chuuba Steam account and set it as family of your main account so you can share games and stuff. It's for safety, avoid doxx and that stuff. May have to start from scratch on certain stuff but part of the fun for viewers is to watch your journey.
That aside, if you are serious about this you'll have to realize there's bullets you'll have to downright chomp to get somewhere. I hate Discord and Twatter too, but there I am. At best there may be one or two bullets you can avoid, but you will still have to bite most of them, anyway.

>>10820152
this, but i just have a small bladder and have a 1.5 liter bottle on my table that i drink entirely every hour. i dont know what to do

>>10826573
LONDON
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>>10826573
Get another bottle and use it to pee, anon.

>>10826399
Two successful, one who gave up because she got into drama
>>10826573
Ringo...

>>10826445
Thanks, anon.
I still have to figure out some things before actually starting but I'm fearing Twitch will be yet another bullet in my menu.
>y-you can g-groom your chat dummy
I've given Twitch a try. I watch small, obscure channels. I don't like it and I don't feel like I'll fit in.
I just hope that bullet goes down smoothly if it comes down to it, though weirdly enough some people make it sound like youtube is the better platform for vtubers.

Out of curiosity, how does one even get doxxed from their normal Steam account being visible?

>>10797691
>tfw have a talent to come up with anime reviews on the fly and make jokes about what is going on
>have another budding talent on customizing toys and gunpla but tools and glues are a pain in the ass to get in my country and I'll have to wear a mask for the fumes
Are Let's Watch still a thing? Are they even legal nowadays?

>>10827003
There are watchalongs, in which you watch a movie or whatever but don't show it on screen, Public is expected to get their own ways to watch the same as you.
Subaru did that for Advent Children Complete

>>10826712
Damn that's a lot of friends in vtubing, I guess you at least have mentors

>>10826659
i have no idea what you mean, but I agree
>>10826689
I live with family, I wouldn't hear the end of it. Also I'd rather not do that
>>10826712
what

>>10791608
You need to be a real girl

>>10826850
I think it's because Steam shows others names you account had in the past so that is a big yabee in case someone decides to dig on you.
As for the bullets, for example I've decided I'm not going anywhere near Reddit and Tiktok if I can help it. Reddit only helps when others shill you and it happens organically without you desperately posting self-threads, and even if you do most of the time you barely get any traction from them.
Tiktok because it's filled with zoomers and they don't have money (for the most part, unless you somehow hit their algorithm of bratty rich kids) or don't move to Youtube as easily as you'd think.

>>10827753
Ah, okay okay. There aren't many people who know enough of me to recognize me or could track me from even my past Steam handles unless they are very close to me but I'll make a chubby account just in case.

By the way, how is youtube? I have a channel that has mysteriously amassed over 50 subs without me making a single video and I'm thinking of using that to my advantage if possible.

>>10828086
If you have commented on videos in the past with that channel discard it and start new. 50 subs ain't that much and if you play your cards right you'll surpass that number easily.

>>10828294
>If you have commented on videos in the past with that channel
I've had it since 2007 lmao of course I have commented on videos in the past.
What's the risk, though? I don't really doubt you but I always want to hear the reasons before trusting in something.

>>10827753
>Reddit only helps when others shill you and it happens organically without you desperately posting self-threads

Randon's reddit threads all did great an definitely helped with his popularity seeing as he had plenty of top posts back to back.

How do you guys find people to raid after stream, and do you have a system?

I used to let chat vote in a google form, as to whether we'd go for 'someone I follow', 'someone in the same game', or 'a vtuber who's in my recommended'. Kept this up for a few weeks, and it was pretty much always "someone else in the same game", and they nearly always sucked (I didn't want to raid into the huge channels with 5~10 viewers).

I now have a 'guide the raid' for 3000 points, and if anyone asks if they can pick the raid target it's a nice way to politely say no.

If nobody picks that, I'll generally aim for a vtuber I've actually watched, because that way they won't be entirely shit... But it means quite a limited group of targets - they all stream when I do, so it's not like I can find new ones easily

>>10829461
I've found small growth through posting in the OBS, Twitch, [Game Specific], Small Streamer/Vtuber subreddits. Keep your links nice and visible on your userpage, so users checking your profile out can find you easily, but post advise and anecdotes.

I also post my own clips on r/VirtualYoutubers, and get a decentish number of views, especially for a m*le pngtuber

>>10829610
I just pick a friend, person I like to watch or chat with in different communities, or don't raid at all.

>>10797691
>tfw passionated about a lot of topics but too ESL to talk about it fluently

>>10832114
trust me, even most english first language speakers have difficulty articulating their thoughts cleanly, especially while streaming

Anyone else have a shit ton of views from their phase connect audition stuff? I dislike how long the audition period is since I am impatient.

>>10821979
I'm >>10820662 and it's mostly posting a notification on Twitter, Reddit (if applicable not every subreddit will let you shill) and other places that are receptive to shilling

>>10825439
Thanks anon

>>10835052
Do you crosspost on reddit, or make a new post for each one? And do you have an example (redacted if you're not openly /here/) of what you'd post there?

I've tried shilling myself on reddit, but get very little traction - around 10 click throughs per month.

>>10837330
For Reddit content it's usually a "I'm going live in 5 minutes" post that I usually delete a couple hours after the stream is over so as to not shit up the subreddit
Also because I'll usually post a clip of the stream afterwards like so:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/o9tl8q/moments_that_occur_right_before_disaster/
My clock through isn't too much better but I've noticed that if a clip takes off that I'll sometimes get a boost of new followers from it, some of which do end up stopping by the following streams

>>10835028
Define a shit ton?

anyone know any cheap (5-10$) cheap artist who do commissions rn? found a couple great ones but i’d like more of you guys know any

>>10842371
>(5-10$)
Might as well beg. You're only getting a sketch at most.

friend gave me her at2020, my room is basically a closet but ive got some acoustic foam as well
scarlett solo a good choice for the price range?

>>10843305
Scarlett 2i2 and Behringer UM2 are both good

what are good games to stream that people enjoy watching?

>>10843305
Careful with the Scarlett, some of them have this weird, apparently unfixable hardware issue that causes a ton of static.

>>10843599
So there's three categories of games, and there's quite a bit of overlaps, but each might help you grow

1 - Games you enjoy, and are passionate about. If you can wax poetic about the underlying story in Stardew Valley, and how it's truly the millenial/zoomer dream of a rich relative dying so that you get all their shit, you might get viewers

2 - You're god-tier at it. If you're #1 in the world at jungling as Engy, and can hotswap the Gray Fox's mask in/out at speed, you'll pull a crowd in the hope of getting better.

3 - Pandering to your audience. Play Gartic Phone, Amogus, or Jackbox, with an open invite for your chat to join in. People cruise these categories to join games.

Figure out what you like, and what you're good at. Check out other streamers - if nobody streams it, you might get all the fans. Mid-tier ones you might get a decent raid to build a following. Super mega games, you'll be drowned out by the existing streamers. But if you can shill well, you might just get a following

>>10843599
I'll watch almost anything someone is passionate about other than Apex, Genshin/gacha, Valheim, MOBAs or Minecraft.

>>10837330
Reddit shilling varies in results, so while some may do very well others barely get any traction. Still, not going to get in there.

>>10806927
why are you donating money to streamers of any kind? are you absolutely fucking brain dead retarded?

>>10846738
some people like to support the people that give them entertainment and some don't

>>10846738
I just give subs, people seem to appreciate it more and helps them build up a community.

>Want to stream horror games
>Can only really get into them late-ish at night
>Upstairs neighbours start beating on the floor if I make so much as a peep after 8pm
Wish they told you this stuff in the flat advertisements.

So I'm seeing how far I can get with making a stream-ready vtuber from scratch today.
I already have the live2D model created (basically) after downloading it this morning, whats the best free face tracking software?

I tried 'animaze', but the reviews didn't look good and the whole thing seemed kinda like a scam.

>>10849261
Vtubestudio?

My solo stream energy is complete shit. I do manage to keep talking at least, but I feel like I'm forcing myself. How can I improve this? Just keep streaming? Or should I keep trying different games to see if something else is more energetic or exciting for me?

whats the line between a design that’s got a lot going on, and a design that’s too simple and basic? what makes a vtuber design work? how much is too much?

>>10849624
I don't think I'm the best person to respond on this, but what I did was just ask for feedback from others when I would get WIP sketches or commissions while trying to figure out a design I liked. It's worth going for something you like most of all, but other people can still let you know when you go too far in one place or don't have enough going on in another.

>>10849624
Is it cute? Is it immediately recognizable? The moment you achieve these two, stop adding stuff.
Then its good.

>>10849624
Avoid having color vomit in your design. I've noticed troons and vtweeters all have awful png designs where their color scheme is a mish-mash nightmare. Furries do that too.
Simple designs like "random vroid model with a hoodie". Try some accesories, look for fashion pictures and see what you like and go from there for a design.

Any pngtubers in here? What's a good place to commission for a png avatar?

>>10853504
twitter and live2d community discord

>>10853504
I got mine on fiverr. Look for Filipino artists, because they're dirt cheap for the same quality

>>10826573
I've seen a twitch streamer that has to pee practically every hour, and even they have like 50 viewers. Not to mention I'm sure there's an audience that would superchat you to try and delay your breaks.

What kind of lore do you guys think would make my vtuber channel attractive? Something wacky? An odd approach to a common trope?
I was reminiscing back to college and how I ended up playing half a dozen different characters on the fly for an assignment so I could actually give playing a character a try.

>"stop thinking about lore and make your reps aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh"
Just give my question a minute in your thoughts at least. I almost posted this on /lit/ as a joke.

>>10855796
i dont think such lore, the type that on its own makes a channel attractive, exists. everyone thinks their own OC is the coolest.

>>10855796
Honest answer: content aside, your lore is only as good as how nice your model reflects it. Even if you have the most interesting lore out there, it doesn't mean much if your model isn't well made or if it's a janky vroid.

>>10852548
That's what I did for mine. I'm just a normal looking mf in some streetwear style clothes. Nothing flashy, but a little more than just "generic anime boy in hoody".

>>10855854
>everyone thinks their own OC is the coolest.
I guess that really is the case. Haha.

>>10855885
Yeah, if I'm not planning on shelling out the money for a super complex high concept model I shouldn't plan on having something really hard to depict.

I was really just wondering if it was possible to have the kind of lore that makes people perk up during a self-introduction video rather than just be ignored for the personality of its chubba. I've been getting those as ads ever since I started looking up vtuber stuff and most of the time the lore feels vestigial.
The last time I got excited over a chubba's lore was Ria but she was kind of bland and the other vtuber I have actually been watching with some regularity is Yuzuki Rai, who has no lore to speak of.

Thanks, guys.

Is Jusagi's advice on what games to play good at least?

>>10859831
look at his numbers and ask yourself

i keep having to go on breaks without having a proper schedule because ADHD makes it hard to get real life obligations under control.
My fans have been dealing with this for over a year, and I just want to know how to get my life together so I can stop disappointing them. I want so badly to let them know that I love them and that I won't abandon them, but I don't want to drown under all the work I have.

PRISM interview kudasai…….. Please give me a chance

>>10863785
I thought they said emails for interviews will be out on September 30th at the latest…?

>>10849624
im an amateur artist so take what I say with a grain of salt

in my opinion you want to have enough detail where your model can be easily broken up visually into distinct shapes with good contrast in colors

you want to keep in mind that your model is going to be zoomed out and in the corner of people's screens

if you have a lot of super tiny trinkets or details then when it gets zoomed out it will muddy your image

look at the difference between kronii vs faunas design at the half body point, they have almost an equal amount of "stuff" but kronii's lines are darker and thicker and her colors are bright and theres more contrast with the shadows

faunas has thinner softer lines, and her colors are more blended, so from a distance it looks mushier and harder for the eyes to immediately follow in comparison

>>10842371
Try to ask spics, they are to art what slavs are to programming

>>10870882
I was about to offer my services and realized that I'm a spic so I guess you're on the mark with that.

>>10870882
>be spic
>ask a local artist group how much would a dakimakura cost to draw
>90 dollars for both sides
Honestly, not bad. I would've bitten if only it wasn't for a "celebratory" dakimakura of my Jump Force OC.
I had more than 90 dollars but not le funny in-joke 90 dollars.

>>10805437
this nigga's last name is bussy LMAOOOOO

>>10793717
tfw I've been thinking of streaming Legends of Runeterra with a full villain kayfabe where I go full chuuni and trash talk the opponent's plays.

any desk mounted boom arms that arent chinese garbage or over 100USD?
should i just bite the bullet on a rode psa 1?

>>10873958
>I go full chuuni and trash talk the opponent's plays.
this style of streaming went out of fashion back in 2014-2015 ish. there was a huge wave of wanna be chuuni trashtalkers after DoubleLift from League of Legends popularized that style of streaming. but the problem was 99% of streamers who tried that ended up just turning toxic because they didn't have the skill to back up their trash talk. you might be able to bring it back, but it's gonna be an uphill climb.

>>10875609
i have pneumatic spring arm by Vivo. costs $80 ish last time i checked. can hold mics up to 6 pounds but i don't know any that get so heavy, maybe the Blue Yeti. double check your mounts in case you need adapter screws for it.

>>10875803
I think the best way to go about it would be to just go full yami Yugi and exclaim at the slightest move
"It's your move 'LoLFaggot91'"
"I attack you directly for 7 life points!"
"I activate my fast spell 'Deny'"
And also groan and scream Everytime your health goes down.

>>10876946
that works as an anime, but not so much in Runeterra since they've changed how much time you have to make your moves. you'd be risking clocking yourself out if you take too long to just talk over it. might be fun as a gimmick or a one off challenge stream but not as your core content. plus it would get really dull if you're not actually good at the game.

Guys, I'm running out of games that fit my character's theme to stream on Twitch. Do you like vtubers more when they play games that fit their characters' theme or do you enjoy ones that just play whatever games they feel like playing just as much?

>>10878080
its nice if the theme is easy to follow but if you're running out of content then it might not be a bad idea to play those kinds of games like once or twice a week instead of exclusively
also please god you do not need to tripfag here selfposting is fine /asp/ gets enough shit as it is and we don't need tripfagging to get added to the list

>>10878080
Im somewhat bewildered that this would be perceived as a requirement. Theming is fun here and there but hardly an absolute. The streamer's relation to the game matters a lot more to me than the character's relation to the game.

>>10878080
you're a streamer, why are you pigeonholing yourself into one type of content?

>>10878080
Themes are retarded, why would you do that? Play what you want as long as you can be entertaining while doing it.

>>10878579
I'll think I'll do that, thanks and as you requested I dropped the tripcode as well as the name altogether.

>>10878579
>>10878616
>>10878782
Well I look at what Hololive does with its streamers like when Watson plays LA Noire because she's a detective or when Ina plays The Shore because of her relation to Cthulhu and think that seems to be what fans want. Though now that I think about it, they didn't stick to their themes that often either.

>>10878892
you need to remove hololive corpos from your mindset and replace it with indie streamers because you are an indie streamer. trying to mimic corpos will not work for you.

>>10878966
Wow, I didn't know Johnny Silverhand lurked /vt/.

Even if I can be "funny", I hope, while playing games that require some concentration and the dead space that comes with them, should I avoid them altogether just to be sure?
It's not like I have the skill to be entertaining at them beyond the commentary or goofs I could make anyway.

>>10879011
k don't take advice from anons. >we aren't your dad. good luck chasing that dream anon.

>>10879049
That was a compliment, anon. I think Johnny Silverhand is a cool guy. I was just amused at how much your post sounded like something he would say.

>>10878966
Not that anon but I'm not interested in sticking to a character because a big vtuber did it but because I think it'd be cool to do it.
I actually spent over an hour today looking for a game that would let me do a lighthouse themed stream but no dice.
Just doing whatever seems cool to me sounds like a great vtuber M.O., now I just have to make me a character lore that facilitates it.

>"again with the lore. nobody cares."
If I were going to stream as a guy with goofy anime hair, I'd just turn on my camera.

>>10879691
Lore doesn't matter. No one cares about lore. Evil Villain vtubers play fun cooking simulators, demon lords place minecraft, shrine maidens play Doom. Who cares? Stop trying to make "lore" important. If anything, it filters viewers because most people aren't looking for someone LARPing as an anime boy unless they're a voice actor.

>>10879691
>because I think it'd be cool to do it.
good for you? i guess i'll wait for your debut stream or some shit? good luck? if you're just doing this as a hobby and are fine with zero viewers all the power to you!

>>10880151
It's not as if it would be a barrier for me to play any game anyway. And I used to be good at doing voices when I was a kid so I might end up cultivating that talent once and for all.

>>10880184
I'll let you guys know when I do? I guess?
Actually, isn't self-promotion verbatim on 4chan?

>>10880820
>self-promotion verbatim on 4chan?
this only applies to companies and ad campaigns you fucking retard. if you're this retarded youre ngmi already.

>>10880860
idunno, rule 11's umbrella seems to cover promoting streams, what with it mentioning stream threads by name and all.
Kind of weird that they would make /vt/ without doing any modifications to it when every thread here is a stream thread.

>>10881073
stfu faggot and go look at /wvt/

>>10881117
Man, there's like a third of the thread that is just unreadable to me.
Is this what being old feels like?

>>10875803
Yeah, I'm only D4 in LoR right now so its definitely something I'm considering as a stream gimmick. I lowkey miss those streamers because they're more entertaining for me.

>>10844293
Number 2 is definitely how Selen got good numbers, I still wonder how she got pred in Apex if she doesn't even practice

>>10849515
Play games that you're passionate about/shit happens in. Some good advice I got was to have your thoughts lead into other ones. This Iced Tea I got tastes like piss --> I had a friend who just peed on a trampoline I was jumping on (true story) --> Considering I remember that embarrassing moment of his, I wonder how many of mine people remember. Just try to keep it positive and not as negative

bump

Prism sent out rejection emails lol

How are your reps going?
Streams? Networking? Tried anything new? Content creation?

>>10888634
At least they do that. I prefer that over waiting forever with a false sense of hope

Best way to do english pronunciation reps? I really don't wanna stream in Spanish

I've seen people say the stream to both twitch and youtube at the same time but I could've sworn I've seen someone or something say that one or both of them will snipe your account if they catch you? Is it not a problem anymore or is it just unlikely that they'll catch you?

>>10888634
I didn't get mine though

>>10890700
1. Stream in english until you get it down
2. Pay up, there are accent reduction classes

back office. many vtubers started from here
>>>/trash/42151540

>>10889943
Networking has hit a bit of a wall recently, but I'm pushing myself a bit further, making more shitposts on twitter and working to actually talk more, not just like posts.

Streaming wise, I'm doing more analysis on post-stream figures, to try and figure out what's worth dropping or keeping. Starting to do extended streams, rather than a 3 hour standard, and it's getting better numbers.

Content creation wise, I'm doing more with my clips, and trying to add subtitles in a more interesting manner, not just words on screen. Getting fade ins, kerning, and layering to work right. I'm also updating a lot of the assets for streaming - I created new panels, and I'm working on making myself animated loading screens. They'll be shit, but they'll be better than what I currently have.

One thing that's annoying is that I set a follower goal, and maybe announced it a bit early, because I've seen a much larger streamer say they're doing something very similar, but before I'll be able to do mine. I don't interact with the bigger one, and none of their moots follow me, so it's likely just an organic thing, but it still kind of irks me.

How do you know when people does or not like a chuuba design without when not receiving feedback at all?

>>10893786
I feel like people are pretty vocal when they see a design they really like.

>>10893868
There wasn't so much times I posted the design /here/ but I started noticing that lack of feedback when doing networking reps or stuff like that on other places.
I hope this is me just being kinda insecure as always honestly.

>>10894366
Just post it bro

>>10894461

>>10894621
Is this the final design, or a chibified example?

I don't see anything too wrong with it - a generic pretty brown girl.

Some minor concerns:
- Eyepatch. This could make the face harder to express, depending on how rigid it is
- I don't like the gloves.
- The colour of the trousers, and the height, combined with the suspenders makes it look like fishing waders
- maybe just because I have inturned feet, but I don't like inturned feet I like feet in general though. They're not cute, they just make me think the model has bad posture.

>>10894366
>I hope this is me just being kinda insecure as always honestly.
it is. you'll only get comments on your design for the first day with a new viewer at best. after that it's all on you and your content. besides you're becoming a chuuba to stream and not just chase after comments on your design through twitter dms right?

>>10894621
Looks very cute, simple yet charming.

>>10890949
It’s a problem if you’re monetized on either platform since they have exclusivity rules. But if you’re not monetized on YouTube or affiliate on twitch, nothing stopping you.

>>10894832
>>10895147
OK, going to fix the posture, the boots (because im noticing are a bit lame) and going to try other type of gloves. Maybe I'm going to look put for a more tactical or rambo ish design.
I wanted to do it as a not human Metal Slug character but I was so focused on working with it on live2d that I just ignored a lot of the design until now.

>>10895117
Yes basically, I have to admit I'm pretty anxious when its about designing characthers, more because I would like to become a chuuba mama in the future.

Thanks for the feedback guys I really appreciate it

>>10894832
Forgot to answer the first part qwq
I was pretending to be my final design but I started doubting about some stuff on the design. It's a chibi/petite character itself.

>>10892295
So what's the difference between /wvt/ here and /wvt/ on /trash/?

>>10896303
/trash/ one is more active but also theres porn.

>>10896303
/trash/ has a lot more posters, goes way faster, as a result it's a lot more chaotic and horny. Doxxing is a part of it with roommate discussion.

>>10889943
Frozen myself again with the inability to choose a game to stream. Don't know if I want to stream a story-driven game to essentially myself, or a laid-back game like Rimworld where nobody's going to really miss anything.
Wanted to commission somebody for a reference sheet for my vtuber, who another vtuber had recommended me to, but they don't seem to have any method of contacting them available. Which is a shame, as their art is really cool, and they actually do armor/mecha which is kind of a requirement.
So, I'm just sat here, doing nothing as always, festering in anxiety as the days go by.

>>10896632
What's your most played game in Steam that you haven't got 100% chivos for?

Go live, tonight, and start working on that last one.

If you're making excuses, will you ever be ready?

>>10896632
>So, I'm just sat here, doing nothing as always, festering in anxiety as the days go by.
ask yourself if you really want to be a chuuba because tit doesn't seem like you do.

Bros is there any chance for male vtubers or is it just gonna be infested with females?

>>10897037
yes, but you have to take it seriously
>provide value to your viewers
>network and market yourself to new viewers
>build professional connections
if all you're doing is hitting go live and streaming a game, you're ngmi like the hundreds of others who don't take this seriously

>>10897037
Depends how big you want to make it, man. By the end of October, I'll be getting my first Twitch payout, and my first sponsorship. It comes up to around $450, but I spent ~$100 of that (some of it was buying subs in a challenge with chat, some on buying in game items for a bigger payout). I don't expect to get more than that for... A long time, if ever.

But I can't art. If you can, you have a HUGE buff. Even just my "here's me editing my clip" art streams are some of my most popular. I can only imagine how good they'd be if I was actually GOOD at it.

>>10897080
Yeah honestly you have to do that to break into that market. If you try hard and know what your doing you might be able to break into it.

>>10896947
>Team Fortress 2
>Rimworld (Has no achievements)
>Garry's Mod
>Payday 2 (Fuck that)
>Stellaris (Fuck that)
>Kerbal Space Program (Has no achievements)
>Fallout 4
Guess it's Fallout time
>67 hidden achievements
>Can only get achievements with mods disabled
Guess it's Fallout time forever

>>10897172
Starting out did you have a model and how much did you invest into it. Did you just figure out how to do twitch streams through vid tutorials?

>>10897216
TF2 has chivos, though? And I found GSGs decent enough for growth, so Stellaris might work?

But FO4 is definitely worth giving a go. Time to go murder some deathclaws, anon.

>>10897037
Its more like you're competing against camstreamers rather than other vtubers when doing this kind of thing as a male.

>>10897498
I dont think so cuz it seems like a completely different market. Its like comparing normfag gamer streamer and a camstreamer.

>>10897618
Arent those the same thing

>>10897283
I commissioned a png through fiverr, paid around £35 for it, and watched a shitload of tutorials. Taught myself how to do everything through youtube vids, or skimming reddit.

First stream was 18th June. Took six weeks to hit affiliate. Still not yet hit 150 followers, nor found an oil princess.

I have no skills outside of being a relatively heavy bingedrinker, except I quit because my doctor told me continuing would see me die. I'm shit at art, can't sing or play music, and am only mediocre at games (my best was top 10% worldwide as Zenyatta, based on the stats on some overwatch thing). I'm 30 years old, m*le, Br*tish, and still a png.

If I can have this as a fun hobby, so can you.

>>10897284
TF2 has chivos, but the ones I don't have are things like
>Deal 1 million fire damage during your playtime as pyro
>Heal 100,000 HP in one life as a medic
AFK things, essentially.

>>10897797
"Marathon until 1 million" seems like the sort of thing you could people interested in joining your games with - open lobby, post the code on screen, people would want to be part of this.

>>10897792
Oil princess?

and damn seems cool and a hobby that I would like to have as well, if I could.

>>10898177
>Oil princess?
Like an oil baron, but female.

>>10898316
Oh so your trying to catch a whale

And what gear do you got?

Question for advertising: I've seen a few people be into /tg/ stuff, is there a good place to advertise that kind of content?

>>10898347
Rig wise?

AMD Ryzen 9-5950X, 32GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 4TB HDD, GTX3090 24GB

Very much overkill for a PNG, but my previous PC was ten years old, and held together with spit, ducttape, and regular prayers to the omnissiah.

>>10898464
Yeah honestly I think my computer is just fine for it. I just have to get better sound quality honestly.
Tho how are you marketing yourself? Just on twitter or what?

>>10898543
I now also use reddit (r/virtualyoutubes /[game], and sometimes /streamers), and a few discords. Join the discords of small streamers you like, be active, and self-promote.

Personally, I have a spreadsheet, and I write down where I self-promoted each stream. Don't shill yourself more than once a week in the same server, and don't always shill the same game/stream day.

>>10898680
Wow do you also do that on twitter? I get it but fuck that seems try hardy. Whatever it takes to get a base ig...

>>10898680
>>10898976
that's very try hardy
honestly if you need to do all that to scrounge up some viewers maybe your content isn't where it needs to be yet

>>10899203
>>10898976
>try hardy

I mean, yeah. But I started on 0. I had no content, and no fanbase. This got me up to ~200 twitter followers, ~140 twitch followers, and average viewer of ~10.

This is what I was doing from day 1 (well, no, about day 5, because I didn't realise I needed to network, and was annoyed my first streams had nobody turn up)

>>10899203
I mean I dont do that cuz I haven't started but marketing is king in most cases. If your shit but most people know you then you are probably gonna get a audiance. If you have a decent personality but nobody knows you, its gonna be hard for you to get a decent base.

>>10899295
Yeah seems like one of the most depressing things in the world. Just having an empty stream just seem like killer.

>>10899367
I asked my brother, and he then brought his drunken DnD group in. So my second stream ended up having five people shitposting. They weren't watching the stream (much), but it kept chat active

>>10899401
U told your brother? I couldn't tell anyone about this unless they actually knew what vt were organically

>>10897172
NTA, how long to make it to the 50-150 range? I really like the comfy vibes of those streams, making money would be a nice bonus, but not a goal for me

>>10899954
Yeah making money would be incredible but doesn't seem very likely.

>>10899401
Are you allowed to tell your twitch or is it mandatory anonymity

>>10900000
We are all GMI anon, also, check those quints

>>10900411
Anon, Im retarded. What are quints?

>>10900699
When your post number ends with five identical numbers

>>10900765
Oh ok

>>10900000
Checked

>>10899203
>that's very try hardy
this is why you won't make it. streaming is a fight over audience numbers. there's only a limited number of eyeballs and organic growth no longer exists. you need to play the game or be left behind by others who will.

>>10897284
Streamed for a while, getting back into the swing of things.
My throat still died even though I was sticking to just water throughout. I was sitting up straight and everything.
Is it just a matter of practice?

hey bros, I still don't have an avatar (since I need funds) but was it a good idea for me to stream voice only to practice until I debut? Just want to make sure if it's a good idea lol

>>10905758
that's fine

>>10905764
yeah I just wanted to work on my voice and stream quality, thanks for the heads up I'm gonna do it for a bit more since I want to spend good dough on my model lol

>>10899583
>>10900049
I told my brother because I trust him not to blab, and because he's completely uninterested in streaming, so he'd open my stream, then mute the tab. It'll give me the bonus views, but I don't need to worry about anything

>>10899954
Six weeks to hit affiliate (slowest bit was the fifty followers), six more to hit 100 followers, still haven't hit 150, and I'm just coming up to 4 months in.

>>10904688
Yes. Talk more during the day, as well. Get used to talking for extended periods. I am the GM for my DnD group, so I talk a lot there, and I do large presentations in my day job, so long talking there. I'm comfortable talking for 30/45 minutes solid about inane fluff, so when it's something I'm interested in, I can bounce between anecdotes like an ADHD squirrel.

>>10898680
>twitter
Forget being manipulative and cannibalizing fellow vtubers' audiences, how do you tolerate interacting with people there?
I just look for japanese handicrafts on Twitter from time to time and I already feel bad from being there after a couple of minutes.

>>10907939
I think you need to be someone who enjoys shallow conversation. It's basically just a public messenger app.

>>10908066
I was more worried about Twitter being an insane asylum nowadays.
You're right that I can't into shallow conversation but western Twitter just feels ominous.

>>10908145
Twitter is very mean yet somehow you're expect to constantly clout chase and suck everyone's dick. if you stick to smaller circles it's pleasant enough just don't try going into broader twitter discourse without a hazmat suit.

>>10908066
>you need to be someone who enjoys shallow conversation.
>>10908145
>Twitter being an insane asylum nowadays.
twitter is for NETWORKING not for chitchatting you fucking faggots. advertise your stream, network with other chuubas, use proper hashtags. stop acting like there's some retarded culture you need to adopt.

Wise is live with Batman: The Telltale Series
https://www.twitch.tv/wisetheai

Anyone hear back from Cyberlive yet? I feel they passed me after viewing my audition 3 times. Phase did view my audition 2 times.

Oh well, guess that's how the cookie crumbles.

>>10910437
It's long over. Prism just sent out rejection emails, if they're done looking everyone else probably is too.

My bad, Phase-Connect auditions are still up until the 30th of October. There's still some hope if i get in once it hits the end of this month.

Though i figure CyberLive wouldn't choose me but i'll take the L in stride to do better.

>>10911468
Phase Connect is about to probably get a wave of new auditions from people who didn’t hear back from Cyberlive and Prism then, huh

Wonder why their audition period is so long, are they that hurting on talent

Where do you guys find someone to work on your Live2D models? I swear I can't find anyone decent. I want something top quality, but I can't find anyone and when I do find someone, their commissions are closed. I've been looking mainly through Twitter, but it's absolute hell since you basically have to scroll through literally hundreds of profiles, look at who's following who to find new people. Is there a trick I'm not familiar with?

>>10917754
Live2D Community discord

>>10918036
I've seen it, you mean the official Live2D discord right? I'll take another look, thanks anon.

>>10918161
>you mean the official Live2D discord right?
no.
i mean the live2d COMMUNITY discord. are you retarded?

where are good places to shill my stream?

>>10918267
I find that Twitter is a good hugbox, shill your stream and act like you give a shit about other people' streams and they will come and boost your viewership.

>>10912070
Yes, Phase connect has too many niche focused vtubers right now, they need a genuinely talented generalist or gamer within their ranks.

>>10918194
Fair enough, thanks for your help, anonymous.

>>10918432
Generalist meaning like someone who's a good all-around? Singing/art/gaming/variety etc.?

So what setting am I fucking up when I export my Vroid model and importing the .vrm into VSeeFace? The hair color/shading is off, and the highlights are completely different.

Looks like everyone who got in Niji en's new wave was very successful beforehand

>>10922667
been saying this for a while. Mint and Nova set the bar, 6-8 months of content creation, 30k subs on youtube, mid 5 digit followers on twitter, talents like singing, gaming or zatsudans. anons that starting in March would have about 7 months of streaming experience right now.

>>10918866
So, I think I sorta figured out what's happening. At some point, the saturation of my highlight color gets set all the way to "no color". Almost feels like wherever wherever Vroid stores the saturation value in the .vrm isn't being read in by any of the renderers. Guess I'll have to bake in the highlight to the hair texture itself

>>10922667
Of course. By the time the auditions for gen 3 were opened many in the community had ample time (about a year since the boom) to build their numbers/content even higher than previous EN gens; I’m going to assume from here on out that Anycolor won’t even look at applications that have sub 10k Twitter followers or a bunch of YouTube subs.

>>10906433
I was talking about viewers, still, thanks, it's interesting to hear monetization would be easier than my goal, maybe i'll end up using all the money towards it

Surely Niji wouldn't use the same criteria for males as females, right?

>>10926739
if you're asking this as in maximum copium hoping your zero experience, zero portfolio, 5 minute of uhms and uhs audition video has a chance, just give up. there are plenty of male content creators out there, including face cam streamers who have plenty of experience with numbers that can rival the girls who had been selected for Nijisanji.

>>10922942
Both debut before the big Hololive EN boom, especially Mint who started back in what? July of last year? When you started matters because back then it was significantly easier (from what I can tell) than now, where the market is significantly more over saturated and nothing is really fresh or new.

That isn't to say that in 6-8 months it'd be impossible to have this level success since plenty of people blow up, but the connections the early-adopters made can have great impact on the (visual) quality of the stream via assets, the eyes on you via promotion and being close-quarters with other early-adopters/big names (Like Iron Mouse blowing up after Zentreya/Mousey noticed them, Silvervale blowing up after being associated with Zen, etc), and all the people who grew because they were some of the first people doing it at a decent level.


>>10926739
Why not? There's a good handful of successful males. Not all would fit in as a corporate vtuber, but they still exist.

>>10927259
>including face cam streamers who have plenty of experience with numbers that can rival the girls who had been selected for Nijisanji
Yeah but they wouldn't apply anyway so who cares?

>>10927551
you missed the boat early and now need to work harder to catch up. that's how everything works, especially entertainment.

>>10926739
Why shouldn’t they?
If anything they should have tighter standards considering how much harder it is going to be for the male EN branch to make it. If they want a fighting chance in this field they are going to have to be insanely talented and entertaining

>>10927760
I'm not disagreeing, just pointing out the difference between now and then. You still had to be "the best" but being the best a year and a half ago meant a lot less than being the best now.

Now I'm actually curious about the new Niji girls and the numbers they had. Will Anycolor get as asstight as Cover?
Kinda sad though because Ghost girl is really cute. Would have loved to voiced her, but alas.

>>10928911
This one probably had the most from the new Niji EN wave

>>10928911
The ghost role went to a girl who had 167k subs on YouTube and 23k followers on Twitter. Take that as you will.

>>10928911
There's really no reason to hire people who haven't shown they've got the experience and skills, and the best way to show that is by having previous (successful) experience.

>>10929113
>>10932048
>>10932160
Not saying they shouldn't take any no-name, but if the bar is set to no less than 20k followers on Twitter and 100k subs on YT then why even consider auditions.

>>10932421
>why even consider auditions.
because there are more than 4 people with those numbers who may be interested in the position?

>>10932421
Because not everyone applying will be a vtuber and there's still a chance, a SMALL chance if you're just exceptionally good.

>>10932649
>there's still a chance, a SMALL chance if you're just exceptionally good.
no there isn't. life isn't a fairytale. this never happens. no one is ever "exceptionally" good like this.

shit's kinda demotivating

>>10932868
it's only demotivating if you're
>looking for retarded hail mary shots
>expecting a get rich quick or rapid success

>>10932421
Because doing only scouting will rule out too many people who the company *might* like to have. Consider holomyth - from past lives, you have only Ame and Gura who were previously vtubers. But then they got applications from a digital artist, a rapper, and a vlogger/ex-idol, who all ended up passing the criteria anyway. You might have lots of people who are renowned in other fields who might want to try out Vtubing. It doesn’t make sense to limit your company’s reach to only talents you are already aware of

>>10932868
If this is enough to get you down you are ngmi

If anything knowing their big past life numbers should enable you to work harder

>>10932615
>because there are more than 4 people with those numbers who may be interested in the position
I didn't think needs to be saying but it goes without saying it was a rethorical question, for people that don't have those numbers.
>>10932944
Iwas talking more for people that have lower than those numbers, regardless if vtubers or not. I remember that rrat about Hana Flores possibly being scouted by Niji, but I don't know I wouldn't recognize her voice.
>>10933007
It's demotivating BECAUSE you know their numbers, anon, and getting those is pretty hard nowadays. You're not guaranteed to get even a fraction of them, even if you are entertaining because the algorythm may not benefit you or simply you don't have enough reach.

>>10933134
And? What's your goal with streaming? Is it exclusively to hit it big as a corpo, or do you want to make the content you want to make and have fun doing it?

>>10933134
>even if you are entertaining because the algorythm may not benefit you or simply you don't have enough reach.
this is retarded. if you're only relying on the algorithm, you were never going to make it in the first place. you think you can just toss up a bunch of videos into the ether and hope the almighty algorithm blesses you? this is why you need to network with other chuubas you retard. not to mention, knowing numbers gives you a goal to set. and knowing how far you are from the goal should be driving you to innovate. just hitting Go Live isn't going to cut anymore and hasn't since late 2020 with the boom of vtubers.

>>10932709
What did Finana's roommate's numbers look like again?

>>10933293
Small; like 2k Twitter followers or something, less on Twitch, but iirc Finana got in because she told Niji that she had previously been a finalist for the gen that ended up becoming Holomyth, and that seemed like good enough criteria for them at the time. I don’t know her actual skillset since again before joining Niji she was basically a nobody

>10933293
>delusional males always bring up Finana as if they were also Hololive EN 1 audition finalists and have the networking connections of Pomu and Elira
>a vtweeter made, so i can too!

>>10903802
I've grown quite well without having to do all that shit. I focus on my content and it speaks for itself
If you have to do as much as that person to get viewers, your content must not be worth watching, and that should become the priority.

>>10933748
>I've grown quite well without having to do all that shit. I focus on my content and it speaks for itself
post numbers

>>10933471
...Could I just lie and say this too? How could they have known if she actually was a finalist?

>>10934095
sure, nothing's stopping you

>>10934095
Yeah, I wondered that myself. How would they know? But I’m sure there’s something in her resume somewhere that speaks for as to why she was considered for Holomyth.

Though everyone referencing “but Finana” should probably also keep in mind that what happened with her/Niji likely won’t happen again from this point on, though

>>10933471
Finana's strong points is playing games awkwardly and being seison't. Cute anime girl doing things, basically. Plus, she clicks well with others when she collabs. I think she got a pass because she's Gen 1 for NijiEN, but their standards must be a lot stricter now.
>>10933213
I want it to to be the second but I'll be real, I need the former because I can't find a wage slave job.

>>10933899
I'm happy with how I've been growing, and I just don't want anyone to think the only way to grow is by doing all that try hard stuff
Social media is important but your content is what's going to bring people in and keep them there

>>10935805
Female?
Also what's the monthly pay like for 113 subs?

>>10936040
Yep I'm a girl. It's around 300 dollars a month.

How do I know if a design is too busy? I just got a rough sketch of my character and it looks great but I've been looking at other vtubers and their designs are really simple in comparison.

>>10936228
I mean it really depends on execution. Kureiji Ollie's design is insane but it works because the artist was able to execute it well.

>>10936228
If you’re not covering up too much of the actual game and you’re not using a million colors you’re probably fine.

>>10936097
>300 bucks
Doesn't seem like much but that would help a lot around the house. The perks of being of being in LATAM, even a 5 bucks tip already covers my breakfast and lunch. Even if I'm not corpo big if I can get at least those 113 would help a lot.

western vtubers...
>>>/trash/wvt

>>10936097
When did you start, and what do you stream?

are you willing to drop links?

today i had like three people in chat and 5 viewers, i was just singing... it felt good and i had a lot of fun, life good

>>10938458
That's good, keep it up. Are they all regulars, or new faces?
I wouldn't mind dropping in if you dropped a link here the next time you stream.

>general advice in /asp/ is to start streaming and get a png
>nonstop audition talk from people who never had streaming experience before
>cope when they fail the auditions blaming the companies for picking more established streamers

What does this teach you? Start streaming and get that experience in.

>>10936435
nta, but I was wondering how her mama was able to make all the craziness of the outfit work.

>>10938958
This is fine and all but the problem is when even when you start streaming and get some experience the threshold gets bigger and bigger.
Can't really blame people for feeling discouraged when they start making content, even after a while, and hear nothing back.

>streaming to 0 viewers
What do you even do aside from actually playing the game or doing whatever you're doing?

>>10939035
Yeah, the threshhold inreases - you could maybe have got into HoleENg1 with a much smaller audience than g2.

But if one starts streaming today, then they'll be closed to the gap. I know these are trite sayings, and I'm kind of showing my age:
>The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now this is not true, the 2nd best time was 19years and 364 days ago. Today is the 7301st best time
>You out there, walking around the track, have lapped everyone sitting on the couch.

If you don't start streaming, you will NEVER be big enough. Sure, if you start, you're unlikely to ever be big enough, but if you do well, and people like you, there's a chance.

>>10938984
LAM has always been great with bright, intense colors.
They've drawn many designs which have a lot going on and still look aesthetically pleasing overall.
Probably comes with years of drawing experience in honing their art style.

>>10939035
Instead of getting "experience", I feel that what companies are looking for instead are "accomplishments".
So not "streamed for xx months", but "gaining an audience of xxx followers".
Not "streamed consistently x times per week", but "gaining audience consistently with x new viewers per week" or "getting xxx consistent views per stream".

Everyone can get experience. Everyone has experience.
Making content is not the same as getting people to consume your content.

Nevertheless, everyone has to start out somewhere. But not everyone has the accomplishments to get noticed.

>>10939326
This is true. If everyone has months of experience, then they have to find some other criteria to differentiate between all the candidates. Next thing to look at would be numbers and accomplishments. If everyone is super, then nobody is.

Where can I comission my first design for a good price to quality ratio?

I don't want L2D right now because I can't afford(and honestly a good design will do me better than a worse one even if its not l2d) it but even on twitter the designs alone are very expensive.

So has everyone reset their passwords and stream keys?

got my first vocal lesson tomorrow, and not sure what to prepare/expect. any advice? or things to do so i wont waste too much of the 1 hour on stuff i could've done at home

all i know so far is i have to prepare one or two songs to sing so they can assess me

bump

With the debut of Nijisanji Ethyria soon, did any of you guys apply for Nijisanji (I know it's late to ask) but how was your experience?
Does knowing their past lives motivate you or discourage you?