/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

You're right. Choice is a bad thing. Personal preference is an excuse for bourgeois excess. There should be only one vtuber, and they should be employed by the state.

>>10893630
>No room for subjectivity
Why eat home-cooked meals if survey says that fast-food is preferred by most people?

>>10893630
I take it you watch fucking veibae then, numberfag?

bait thread alert

>>10893630
>If a girl is able to consistently entertain 20k people, doesn't she by definition mog the girl entertaining 10?
Why should I care about how many people she entertains? What matters is if I'M entertained. I couldn't care less about the other 19,999 retards.

>>10893979
That's a separate issue.

>>10894130
If you aren't entertained by someone able to entertain that many people maybe your taste is just shit.

You're wrong but pekora is the best

If Gura "retains high viewer retention" why does she get only between 4 and 800k views on a video, when Irys gets around 200k with with just 600k subscibers?

>>10893630
UOOOHHH EROTIC

>>10894197
Nah, chances are 19K people are just braindead. Have you seen popular music and movies?

>>10894136
Not a separate issue when it comes to preferences. You couldn't even answer this question and yet you present an objective take on preferences for an oshi.

>>10894197
>sheep mentality
still not the point, vtubers are made for entertainment, it's subjective, as all things in the etertainment industry.

>>10893630
People have different tastes. A lot of people root for the underdogs and their friends. Others just want to try something new. People actually want to chat with the streamer and not at the streams as well.

Viewership is a metric of long term expectations. There are plenty of amazing talents out there that are undiscovered.

>>10894197
are you that fucking dense? Plenty of people are entertaining as fuck but haven't really gotten their break yet. How do you think actors or comedians or musicians do it? You think they write a good song and it's just instantly a hit? No, they work at it for years, sometimes performing for 20 people. But it shouldn't matter at all if they entertain a huge number of people because they might just not have an audience yet.

>>10894197
>If you don't like Marvel movies your taste is shit
>If you don't like Jump shonen trash your taste is shit
>If you don't like top 40 pop music your taste is shit
>If you don't like COD and annual sports games your taste is shit
Any of these opinions would be instantly laughed out of their respective boards but for some reason many people here actually believe this, it's bizarre

Why watch vtubers at all of you can watch celebrities? those folks entertain millions of people while your oshi, at max, entertains 20k lonely men.

>>10894197
nice try nousagis, better luck next time

>>10893630
that's me behind the top-right window btw

man op really isn't the sharpest tool huh

>>10893630
>if it is popular it must be good.
hang yourself, teenager-kun

Imagine having Pekora is your oshi

>>10894407
Because this board is a reddit colony.

>>10893630
All considerations are secondary to subjectivity when picking an oshi. Even people with the shittiest of tastes still deserve more respect than you if you pick based on their ability to entertain other people and not yourself.

>>10893630
Stop telling half-truths, being able to entertain 20k is obviously a talent, but you know a lot of talented people doesn't get high numbers because either algorithm, established branch vs small indie or they just give up after some time without having proper results.
What it matters is being constant and being in the correct place and time, that's why Gura skyrocketed in subs in just 1 month, not because talent (She didn't have time to show if she was worth or not) but a combination of new branch, Hololive boom, algorithm and actual talent obviously, but it wasn't the major fact

>>10893630
Pekora has 1.7 million subs, yet she can only manage to entertain 20k-30k of them. If she's so great, then why don't her fans watch her?

>>10894241
Nta but clipniggers, anon

>>10894397

Because they are not good that's why!

>>10895333

Have you heard the word "Work"?
Not all have free time to spare, they always watch the VODS

>>10895165

Is that really the case?

So tell me an EN Vtuber except gura who have been blessed with algorithms?

Nijisanji, vshojo? Hololive isn't big as before 2019, why?

Let me tell you why, because Fans loved Gura, that's why

>>10895996
Based and truthpilled.

>>10895996
Shiki from project prism, her vtuber intro vid was pushed by the algorithm and helped her growth.

Numbers are the only way of measuring the quality of something that at least comes as close to objectivity as possible, as any kind of quality one person sees in a vtuber is subjective and numbers are the sums of those subjective opinions; any single opinion is meaningless next to thousands of them.

Luckily, you don't actually have to care what others like to watch or what they think about your oshi. You don't have to cope by making up "objective" criteria to judge vtubers by, just enjoy what you're watching.

>>10893630
i-is the OUUHHHHH thread? i'm confused

>>10896120
This amount of truth should not be allowed on this board.

>>10893630
uoh
i didn't read the thread

>>10896121
>my dick sense is tingling
same anon, same....

>>10894241
>only between 4 and 800k views
>only

>>10896120
So what you're saying is Gura and Pekora are objectively the best vtubers and others should have them as their oshis? Agree.

>>10894407
This.
I want to believe OP is trolling, but I really can't put it past Cumbuds to be this retarded.

>>10893630
And yet some e-whores out there having more numbers than your oshi, is your oshi actually worse than those whores then?

>>10895778
Less than 30% of Pekora's subscribers bother to watch her VODs (and that's assuming every view is unique). Why is that?

>>10896120
This. Art and entertainment are subjective; any criteria critics, artists etc come up with are just ones they happen to like and agree on, so they want to push them onto others by pretending they're "objective" and not just an opinion they are sharing.
You can advocate for your point of view and try to convince others, but it's always about taste and never about right and wrong. Just accept that not everyone will agree with you and enjoy your preferred chuuba.

>>10894407
The most popular movies are the most worthy of being called the best movies (there's only opinions, and the most popular movie has the most opinions in their favour), but not liking them doesn't mean you have bad taste. Every taste is valid.

>>10896309
Gura has 3.4 million subscribers. If she gets 400000 views on something that might be a lot compared to other channels, but it's also 3million people not watching the thing. I'm not saying Gura isn't a massive vtuber, but if you frame the discussion around (fuck me) brand loyalty and viewer retention, or simply folk coming back to watch her stuff, Gura is not the person you want to use as your example.

>>10893630
>If a girl is able to consistently entertain 20k people, doesn't she by definition mog the girl entertaining 10?
Not necessarily OP. If one girl has 20k viewers but 15K are only pretending to entertained while the other girl has 10k viewers and all of them are actually entertained, then who's objectively better? The girl with 10K of course. Learn how statistics work.

>>10894197
Majority of people use Twitter and Reddit anon, maybe you should go there instead of this place of minority

>>10894197
humanity is doomed, isn't it?

>>10893630
People have different tastes and therefore choose to watch different content that better reflects those tastes. Not trying to be a dick, but are you really so autistic that you don’t understand this concept?

>>10894197
Appealing to majority opinion on any matter of taste is frankly retarded. I could list out all the examples in literature, film, music, etc. to highlight how absurd this point is but instead I want you to pause and contemplate this for a second on your own lmao

I love Pekora, she’s probably my favorite of all, but what you’re posting some gigabrainlet shit right now. Unless it’s b8 in which case gr8

>>10899848
Dammit, grammar:
>but you’re posting some gigabrainlet shit right now*

>>10893630
Post uncensored, I don't think uncensored reveals enough to get deleted.

>>10893630
if a girl fucked 20 guys, is she objectively better than a girl that fucked 10 guys cuz she entertained more of them?

>>10900036
Only if it's me and my shadow clones

I'm getting bored of pekora recommend me someone fresh. I am liking the feesh, but she's too into gachas

>>10900036
she's objectively better at sex

>>10894125
I will give you a (You) for no reason; you're right though.

>>10893630
Your favorite vtubers must be the top ten most popular in order or you're wrong.

>>10893630
How hard is for you brainlets to understand that taste is subjective you retard?

>>10893630
>picking your oshi based on numbers
>ever
In that case, we should all oshi vtuber Pewdiepie because numbers.

>>10894197
Here's your (you), good job kid, you deserve it.

>>10893630
Amyamya is cuter and more UOOOOHH than whoever this is. Sorry :p

>>10914435
UNFATHOMABLY BASED TASTES

>>10914435

>>10893630
Is that Shien in the window?

Subs suffer a form of diminishing returns. The more you get relative to your potential audience the more casual and less involved your average fan gets and you average out.

It gets exponentially harder the higher you go. See: numbers of twitch livestreamers who dwarf the sub count of hololivers but are about equal in avg viewership. Pekora is impressive yes, but you should keep in mind her whole audience lives in one timezone. She is extremely talented entertainer though, like a lot of the JPs, who I have hard time explaining without trying to sound like I dislike ENs, seem to have a greater appreciation for showmanship and being an entertainer.

>>10914435
I didn't expect a post this based in this garbage thread. I kneel anon

>>10893630
Ayame disproves your entire post.
Kagura Mea disproves your entire post.
Zentreya disproves your entire post.
Would you like me to go on?

>>10893979
>try to make barbacoa like at a mexican restaurant
>didn't put enough water into the cooker
>barbacoa comes out dry