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Hololive have better 3D tech than nijis and the rest of vtubers industry, proof:

>> No.10752381

>>10752312
My 3D tech is better than any company,

>> No.10752407

>>10752312
Not even in the same galaxy as Kizuna Ai's.

>> No.10752420

>>10752312
>holobronies post reddit screenshots
kys

>> No.10752444

its not the 3D tech. its korone

>> No.10752517

>>10752407
Niggers are making millions and still have shitty tech

>> No.10752521

>>10752312
>R*ddit
Go back faggot

>> No.10752552

>>10752312
>>10752312
> says obvious bs
> get 8488 likes
> "EDIT: 47828 LIKES? WOW GUYS I FEEL SO SPECIAL, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!"

>> No.10752615

>>10752312
https://streamable.com/0fba6i
I just wanted an excuse to post this.

>> No.10752652

>>10752312
Niji's 3D advantage comes from their sets and use of props. Its really fluid the way they are used and it flows so naturally. Hololive is far behind in this regard.

As for the actual character models? I've actually thought Hololive was always better here. Especially with some of the newer models like Miko and the Korone one we just saw. Really good stuff.

>> No.10752737

>>10752652
I agree with this. I know people shit on Holo3D compared to Niji3D but Hololive has some really nice models, even newer Niji models don't look as good as idol Ko'one. I'd hope one day they can just film something big at Niji studio, since 774 also films stuff there. Why not.

>> No.10752970

>>10752312
Holobased redditCHAD
Nijibronies can only cope and seethe

>> No.10752999

>>10752312
The fuck is this redditor talking about.
Livestreaming video existed in the fucking 90s. Although to be fair it only got really usable around 2005-2006 when flash video players started replacing all the shitty proprietary garbage like realvideo.
Also, realtime motion capture has also existed since the fucking 90s. Although it's only become "affordable" recently.

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>>10752652
>>10752737
>>10752312

>Holoshit 3d
>no rtx shaders
>no motion blur
>no object tracking
>shit character tracking
Keep coping holoretards

https://tenor.com/view/hololive3d-vtuber3d-hololive3d-glitch-pekora-pekora-glitch-gif-21811542

>> No.10753096

>>10753061
>>10752999
nijiCOPE

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>>10753096
look whos coping when you cant even argue back

>> No.10753231

>>10752312
So when is Hololive doing a AR live?
I bought online tickets to bloom and beyond the stage, and woule gladly spent money for something as good as Nijisanji.

>> No.10753311

>>10752312
I don't have a fetid reddit brain so before I tell you to go back, what exactly constitutes this as a "fail" appropriate for a sub called "livestreamfails"?

>> No.10753324

>>10753061
>real time ray tracing
>on anime models
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Please return back to lereddit where pulling shit out of your ass gets upvoted and/or kill yourself.

>> No.10753332

>>10752312
dumb phoneposter

>> No.10753335

>>10753061
I'm not even a Holofag I'm a Nijifag. Both have their pros and cons and while I prefer Nijisanji, you have to be blind to not see that Korone looks good.

>> No.10753353

>>10753140
That youtube music live is really good at demonstrating Mito's 3D.

>> No.10753384
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10753384

The singing/dancing segment was obviously pre-recorded. The actual live segment was full of terrible stuttering and low framerate like most of Cover's low quality 3D. Seems like holobronies forgot about the embarrassment that was Tenma's 3D deubt just a few days ago.

>>10752737
That depends. Niji has a lot of talents and I don't think they invest in them equally, so the models are going to be of varying quality. The same is true for hololive/holostars. Tenma has a shit model for example. Much worse than someone like Fuwa.

>> No.10753427

>>10753384
Have you seen his huge fucking hands in concerts? His mouth barely moves either.

>> No.10753509

>>10753384
>pre-recorded
>Fuwaggot poster
The hypocrisy

>> No.10753528

can I just say, thank you coco for pushing cover to improve their hip tracking?
yall may not like her or her content, but she gave us the glorious hips.

>> No.10753569

>>10753384
Mom look its the nijinegro again!

>> No.10753576

>>10753384
Fuwa's 3D had several prerecorded segments too as well as one of the worst stuttering issues in 2021 Nijisanji 3D to the point where he had to apologize for it. Go watch it. Or take my word if you're too tribalist to give a view to Nijisanji or whatever. I know you fags use him for number wars but at least speak some facts before you make yourself look retarded.

>> No.10753617

3D tech quality is a crutch

>> No.10753687

>>10753576
Wtf, do you actually believe people who talk about Fuwa or Kuzuhas numbers watch them and are fans? How naive are you?

>> No.10753690

>>10752312
Even if holo had better 3D, you'll still be losing, because your hag can't dance for shit. I'm sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciLv_6V2FFU

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>>10753324
This amount of Cope, Do your research Holo scum

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>10752312
And fags still bit.

>> No.10753751

>>10753687
If it's going to be brought up I may as well clear some things up.

>> No.10754018

>>10753061
>motion blur
Noone uses that shit in games idiot. Congratulations you played yourself.

>> No.10754039

>>10753576
>as well as one of the worst stuttering issues in 2021 Nijisanji 3D to the point where he had to apologize for it
I watched both of them, and trust me, it was buttery smooth most of the time in comparison to Korone's live segment. She was literally freezing in place all the time and skipping frames. I guess she didn't have to apologize for that because nobody expects anything of Cover's 3D tech.

>> No.10754093

>>10753061
>>10753140
>>10753711
Aw you done cwying? Or aw u still fwustwated?

>> No.10754175

>>10754039
Not denying she didn't have stutter.

>> No.10754238

>>10752999
Yeah but the technology now allows you to watch someone "from another country"

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>>10754018
>No one uses them = bad
Keep coping. The fact that holo3d cant even render good shaders shows how shit their priorities are

>> No.10755487

So this is how Holobronies cope.

>> No.10755544

>>10754320
If you think this is RTX or motion blur please get your head checked. God I hate /v/

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>>10755544
You're too blind please get checked

>> No.10756199

>>10756022
Nijisanji does not have RTX. And before you cite AR stage you can read about how they did the lighting here.
https://www.moguravr.com/nijisanji-ar-stage-light-up-tones-interview/
They matched the lighting on the models behind the scenes. Not a single mention of RTX.

>> No.10756264

>>10753384
>look at this holo MALE and then compare him to this Manjisanji MALE? Did I mention I love MEN?
Why are Manjisanji fujos like this?

>> No.10756287
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10756287

Mao recently received probably one of the best 3D models ever created. It looks almost exactly like her live 2D right down to the expressions.

>> No.10756294

Holo's 3D tech is shit. How hard could it be to get proper collision on cloth/hair so it doesn't clip through the model every time they move?

Plus the stupid balloon booba models that obviously don't match the talent's bodyshape, so constant clipping when they bring an arm up to their chest.

3D's still got a long way to go before the difference in tech means anything.

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>>10756287
I don't know why they went all out with Machukai but I'm so glad they did.

>> No.10756405

With this amount of cope, defending their pathetically shitty tech, Holobronies really are the cancer of vtubing.

>> No.10756553

>>10752312
OP, I hate the nijibrony niggers too but cmon
>>10753335
>>10753061
>>10752420
>>10753711
>>10755487
>>10756022
>>10756405
kill yourselves retarded nijibronies. you are disgusting filth.

>> No.10756589

>>10756553
But I said Korone looks good.

>> No.10756792

>>10756388
She gets bullied so much that she needed this win.

>> No.10756861

>>10756553
go back to plebbit stupid animal

>> No.10756907

>10753384
>>10753751
i wish we lived in an alternate reality where his 3d debut just did average so i wouldn't need to him attached to posts like this on this shitty board.

>> No.10757016

>>10756907
If he's your oshi don't worry too much, it's not like he's ever going to see it or anyone who posts bait with him is ever going to watch him. 4chan viewers are low on the list of mattering when it comes to Nijisanji.

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10758302

Hololive is always a year or two behind the latest advancements.

>> No.10758348

>posting reddit as proof
what the fuck?

>> No.10758783

>>10752312
Watching a live stream has nothing to do with it being filmed in Japan or anywhere else. She's in a studio, the studio records her and broadcasts it. "Fluid movement in real time" would only matter if it was something that you were controlling, like an RC car, and that is based on data speed and latency. There are at least 90 idiots that don't know this.

>> No.10758972

>>10752312
well, it was also the same stream where her head spun around several times from interacting with other 3D objects...

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>>10756199
>>10755544
>Too retarded to realize getting troll

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>> No.10759492

>>10756405
they really are, sadly they're dragging down tech with their spending focused on outside crap like paying an animation studio millions for well animated commercial for chuuni as fuck content that has little to do on what they made themselves famous as, and like a year AFTER they've actually paid for it

>> No.10760112

>>10752444
niji needs a korone collab in home field

>> No.10764191

>Newfag
>Reddit
>Tribalist
Three strikes and you're out

>> No.10764380

>>10760112
Uiha https://youtu.be/ciLv_6V2FFU

>> No.10764531

>>10752312
>everyone taking the bait
>getting angry at LE PLEBBIT
>don't even notice it's apparently from r/LivestreamFail
Judging by the name I'm gonna assume OP was sarcastic. But regardless it's fun seeing retards getting mad at the thread.

>> No.10764907

>>10752312
>Reddit
>Literally one example
>Has never even watched Niji 3D lives
Cool, can't watch for Niji EN to get 3D before holo's (if they ever do, kek)

>> No.10764962

>>10752381
I'm born 3D!

>> No.10765084

>>10752312
Korone dancing was so smooth I was honestly doubting if it was really her doing this moves...

>> No.10766625

>>10759333
Source?

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10766976

Goddamn you guys are bored tonight.

>> No.10767060

>>10764380
I'd love to see an Uiha Korone 3D collab. Or boxing match.

>> No.10768377

>>10759119
>roberu ff7 shoulder.png

>> No.10768671

>>10753690
This shit is basic as fuck compared to the moves korone was pulling off

>> No.10768738
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GLOBALIZATION

>> No.10768800

>>10766625
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Pz4y1r79S/ 1:25:02

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>>10759119

>> No.10769536

>>10752312
Korone is really good!! I love that Hololive gives the talents dancing lessons and stuff so they can do stuff like this. Nijisanji just hires professional dancers for their performances which really takes a lot of the intimacy out of it.

>> No.10769591

>>10764380
This isn't real though. Nijisanji hires professional dancers for their 3D performances so that isn't actually her dancing.

>> No.10769629

>>10752312
There are vsinger indies with better 3d tech than cover you clown.

>> No.10769670

>>10768800
THE COLLECTIVE BONEITIS

>> No.10769829

>>10769536
>not the first post from this ip
fess up, your the one who makes bait OP right?

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>>10769536
>>10769591

>> No.10770256

>>10769591
I am sure people will actually believe this.

>> No.10770512

>>10756553
>ugh nijiniggers nijibronies
>but cmon
>I've seen people mass reply here, I'll do it too!
>kys retards xd
>uhh... disgusting filth!
quit acting like a retard, faggot

>> No.10771290

>>10770256
What do you expect on holo board

>> No.10771370

>>10752312
>korone again
it's hard to make and argument about better tech when you only have one example

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>>10770256
They literally do hire professionals as stand ins, do you think normal people could do this.

>> No.10771478

>>10752312
we already had mmds with mocapped dances 10 years ago wtf is that guy talking about

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>>10752312
He's right but on the other hand it's been a complete disaster for human civilization. You could've had this but traded it for dancing anime girls.

>> No.10771594

>>10752444
people keep saying that but Cover is going to prove them wrong in a couple days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnQFxsSfdd4

>> No.10771737

>>10769591
but that's what happened in holo

>> No.10771962
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10771962

>wanted to make a rrat about Hololive EN having better usable and optimized 3D model
>see this
>remember it was actually commissioned by Ame
>this is legit work
......... why???

>> No.10772176

>>10771962
I wonder if they can commission actual decent 3d models on their own or if management only allowed this because it's meme shit

>> No.10772263

>>10772176
a lot of fan models are often shit and are poorly optimized for live stream
3d modelers and riggers need to be able to access hololive offices to make sure the model just barely works with their system

>> No.10773281

>>10771449
nijisanji hired marv from home alone to fill in for deron obviously

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>>10756553
now holobrony stopped calling nijinigger and copying nijifag with the brony suffix lol

>> No.10780891

>>10752737
Wtf are you talking about, niji model is always good, Its fucking replica of their 2d Avatar

>> No.10780910

>>10752970
Keep coping until you die brony

>> No.10780929

>>10754093
Seethe

>> No.10781155

>>10771449
So dance lessons means offpaku? They can't shut up about their dance lessons but then the result is something my 5year old can do.

>> No.10782004

>>10753384
Yes fuwa's 3D which was stuttering horrible along with a horrible rigged neck.

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