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>>10624256Oof straight for the heart
ccv + sc>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/>http://v-ana.com/>https://playboard.co/en/Hololive>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://twitter.com/holo_data>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.htmlNijisanji>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
Ame was sitting around 13k then went up to 19k when Gura and Kronii join vc. The incline from blue chuubas
>>1062531320k now
>>10625313What IS the best color? I guess Blue has Gura and Pekora so they win by default. Suisei pulls her weight too and Kronii is strong for her generation.
>>10626444ORANGE WOMAN!!!
>>10626533Now see, Orange woman has the big honka badonka numbers, but she shares colors with Kiara which is probably negative points.Nene is there too, but she is fine.
>>10626444I've noticed a lot of the top performers feature blue or purple in their designs.
>>1062425620K Amelia Collab vs 2k Rosemi CollabNiji's fan lost again this battle
>>10626801Oh god the rabbit beat the turtle? Who saw this coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVItBIkQPGQPredictions? I'll put the Over/Under on 70k
>>10626988Are you the same anon yesterday? Those are literally the same numbers.I'll give it a 50k myself.
>>10626988I'm going to say 40-45k.
Ina has joined the Minecraft server.
>>10626801>Niji's fan lost again this battleFauna got more reading SCs. Why do you retards keep doing this stupid comparison?
>>1062698870k+. Pmaru-sama is actually mainstream in Japan + everyone knows she's Kaguya Luna.
>>10626614Orange chuubas are money makers with SC
>>10627330Fauna's joined too, how high can the numbers get?
>>10627280Yeah. It will be in 5 hours, so i want to see some predictions
>>10626988Is she even a vtuber?
So, someone asked what Cover can do with the $15M profit, could they develop a game that is on the level of genshin with that money? If not, a normal adventure gacha game like Arknights or Azure lane would do. They just need to hire developers for those.
>>10629348>develop a game that is on the level of genshin with that money?>The high profits are not however without huge costs. Based on a company presentation form miHoYo president Cai Haoyu, translated by Twitter user AeEntropy, Genshin Impact cost US $100million to make but continued development costs are expected to be around US $200million every year.lol.https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/genshin-impact-has-made-1-billion-in-mobile-revenue-2907230
>>10629843kek that's a lot. How did they even get $100M with Honkai Impact. So, arknights/mobile games tier?
>>10627570Yea, it seems like orange color brings the hardcore while blue color brings the crowd.
>>10629996Did Youtube know? is that why they made the low chats blue and the big ones red and orange? do I really need to take these meds?
>>10629982It's probably more worth it to spend that money on things directly related to vtubers (better content, merch, 3D software...etc) A game can flop and they'll waste all that money. Hololive isn't at "too big to fail" level yet.
>>10629982They've earned 600m+ in revenue off of Honkai according to Wikipedia, so...>>10630191Indeed. If they want another game appearance perhaps another collab with some other mobile games, but getting their merch situation sorted out for overseas fans is probably more of a priority.
>>10630142No, color psychology is a thing.
>>10629672>>10629982>$15 million US dorra>worth anything to anyone but a small corporation (10 employees or less)Even if it were a gacha, it wouldn't get them through to the full production phase of development, and that's with out counting their current expenses. It is not a viable endeavor at all. If they want to make a game that won't obviously be literal cash grab garbage, they would need an initial budget of about $25M at the barest of minimums, and the costs grow sharply from there.
>>10629996>>10630142There are a few outliers of course. Blue in particular has Lamy.Wish I knew anything about other agencies for more points.
first time i seegura with only 10k a week on holostats then again has been a slow week for vtubing in general outside some collabs.
>>10633264Yeah, she's plateaued this week which is unusual for her, then again school did just start up again so maybe it's part of it.Of course now that I've pointed it out I expect there to be fifteen "Gura is reclining" bait threads in the catalogue by the time work is out.
>>10633661Gura is reclining in her Herman Miller to help with her back.
>>10633661Well, she already pushed the limit this high, it's really not surprising that she hits the roof before any other members, plus the long void on her channel during mid September seems hurts her growth a lot.
>>10633830She will climb again with the new outfit and all the new jp interaction. But yes Gura sparce schedule was alwasy been her weakness but also is more healthy in my opinion.
September numbersHolo Myth>Gura 23,657 / 17,882 (+5,775)>Ina 10,784 / 11,984 (-1,200)>Mori 9,084 / 7,283 (+1,801)>Kiara 7,757 / 6,228 (+1,529)>Ame 6,503 / 8,813 (-2,310)Holo Hope>IRyS 8,424 / 8,175 (+249)Holo Council post debut month>Mumei 10,622>Fauna 9,755>Kronii 9,694>Baelz 6,198>Sana 5,190even if Kiara gets 3k less later the median would be still 7k flat. Pretty much a good month for HoloEN.
>>10634101SUGOI
>>10634101Great numbers and even Sana numbers impressed me there
>>10634101>Gura - Lots of MC, not a lot of debuff stuff like Super Metroid. Lower amount of streams due to convention stuffs>Ina - Bastion, Ender lilies streams, balanced by MC, also some Council overlap>Mori - Good numbers from MC.>Kiara - Collabs, MC, balanced by debuffs in Skyward sword and the Tales streams after the first two.>Ame - lots of debuff stuff such as watchalongs and SC readings, not a lot to balance it out due to taking time off for health reasons. Anniversary stream as the highlight of the monthCouncil>Mumei - Consistent numbers, MC, passpartout.>Fauna - streaming earlier hours with minimal competition has let her net solid numbers>Kronii - Lots of highs, some lower numbers from Hollow Knight, spends way too many hours in MC off stream, could net much better numbers if she was willing to stream those, but it's much less mentally taxing to not have to set up the streams and instead just chill in discord. >Baelz - lots of streams playing Bayonetta 2 (rip numbers) balanced by streaming Minecraft. Has chosen hard mode and streams during Peak JP hours as a bilingual chubba>Sana - slow start with lots of kusoge and indie stuff that gets mediocre numbers (for Hololive). Will see how her game choices affect numbers going forward, but her Celeste playthrough shows she's not a quitter and is decently skilled.
>>10634671I don't think streaming MC for 3 times count as many for Gura, but she did play a lot this month with other members and that also gives other people's number a push.
>>10635048Wait, did she really only play on stream 3 times this month?Huh. 4 times, but she did show up quite a bit in other people's streams yea. That mustve been why it felt like more.Only 14 streams on her channel for September , though there were some collabs on other channels.
>>10635630This month all the girls from all branches ramped up on the collabs, including single POV. It’s an interesting thing, I wonder if they received some encouragement to do that. Even Haachama and Ayame, along with Gura, started showing up more for the other girls
Pochi-sensei got decent numbers for her reveal. With that said I can only wonder how huge her numbers would be if she just made her character an expy of Mamako
Here is the numbers while nothing is on screen.
>>10635806Sorry, context, PMaru 3d debut.Audio just turned on.
>>10635794Mamako, for reference. This, incidentally, is what people expected Reine to be, the childish MILF personality
>>10635806Based on opening numbers: 50-60k?
>>10635630>>10635864It is ramping, 70k anon might be right actually. 26k now.
>>10635841She probably can't handle acting out mamako. She is a cinnamon roll, and the cutest of the cute.
Did Hololive finally get little nightmares permissions? >Bandai NamcoPlease Bandai... Dark souls...
>>10635884YouTube “spam viewer” bot releases a batch of 1k ccv / minute until it reaches the actual opening number. Then it shifts to 500 ccv / minute until it clears the queue. Check if she’s over 50k when half hour passes, if she is and até I’ll growing it may hit 70k or even 100k depending on the growth. But if it stalls before, 1k / min would be the max growth from then on
>>10635922Bandai is knee deep in the Holo hole, whatever permission they didn’t give is likely because they have partners to deal with
>>10635922Lol, thought duck and Peko are having a race, it looks like they just decided to immediately schedule Little Nightmares today. Looks like new perms.
>>10635958Pekora talked about this before, she said that she has a new game she's planning to play but didn't release any details.
>>10635922nijis already played this kusoge last year.........wtf
20 minutes inNothing is happening on screen though.PMaru come on.
>>10635958Sugoi...It's time, here comes Little Nightmares arc, just in time for Halloween...Prepare for 15+ Holos to play it. >>10635942Thus is smart numberfagging though, start up the stream before the actual event starts to get the fucking CCV fuckery out of the way, and also get notifications and randos getting recommended the stream to come in.
>>10626533THIS,After all the best recent USA president also orange.
>>106359584 people is playing the game today. Pekora, Subaru, Flare and Fubuki.Other than that, Fubuki announcement + Mori OG song not scheduled yet + Coco free chat ending. Packed stuff.
>>10636035Last day of the month too, Pekora may stretch her stream as wide as she can because she’s clearly angling for watched hours this month
https://mobile.twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1443509896062799875Post was recent too. But still Bandai, let them play dark souls...
>>1063603254k. This doesn’t count as a vtuber tho, right?
>>10636035Gonna guess it's probably music or merch announcement.Don't really see Cover doing anything for Coco's free chat ending.
>>10627280Well there goes my prediction. 62k and nothing is happening. Sasuga.
>>10636032Ahahahahahaha...Fucking YouTube, as soon as it switched off from the blank screen and the music changed, jumps up 14k+ viewers. Fuck everything about this goddamn ccv fuckery.
Face is a bit stiff and eyes are really big for her. A bit uncanny but I am not sure why.
Oh boy, Pekora and Subaru gonna go head to head on the same game at the same time. Any chances you think one is gonna move theirs? Also the rabbit probably wins but wonder how much they'll be hurting each other.
>>10627490>80k alreadyI love the dopamine rush when I get a prediction right lol
>>10636091>>10635922Bandai has nothing to do with perms for souls series. It's Fromsoft that holds back perms.Similar to how Sega has nothing to do with Atlus perms.
>>10636135They've played against each other on FFX7 and FFX7R in the afternoon. They'll be fine.
Just learn about this vtuber but what is her usual content? is she from a company?
>>10636093Not yet, no. But a full 3d live? Well, 80k+ for one of the old guard in the year 2021. Who woulda fucking thought.
>>10636135They did the same with FF. It’s no big deal, people don’t watch either for the game but for the streamer. Pekora floor is 22k, Subaru floor is 15k.
>>10636135Shuba numbers are pretty stable so she should get at least 14k. Pekora is, hmmm, 35k? Not familiar with her numbers.>>10636163She is a relic of vtuber past. She mostly does songs now. Indie I believe, but really popular one in Japan.
>>10636153Then how the hell does Niji have those permissions?
>>10636163She's an utaite + used to be one of the biggest vtubers.
>>10636163Anon...your chubba history reps...This is the former Kaguya Luna.
>>10636163PMaru? She’s Kaguya Luna, except unshackled
Who will win? A collab between the 1st and 3rd most subbed Hololive Vtubers and 2 of the most popular members of their 2nd EN GenerationOrThe 3d debut of a literal who?The answer will frustrate, anger, make you cope and castrate yourself!!
>>10636165>Well, 80k+ for one of the old guard in the year 2021. Who woulda fucking thought.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9952osjncHer original song has 47 mil views in 6 months anon. Just have a look at her average video views.Pmaru is basically a mainstream JP content creator.
>ongoing streams, unfiltered How do we save FPS, lads?
Wonder if she plans on doing more lives like this. She does skits and whatnot but that is a full ass model, might as well.>94817we might be getting 110k. She is definitely singing Sil Vou's President.
its gonna reach 100k, i kneel...
>>10626988Wouldn't it be funny if Sony tries to poach her?
>97k Only one guy have the money for aka supa
>>10636264>Sony tries to poach her>SonyAnon...
>>10636223Too much unnecessary words made the bait too boring. Try again Nijinigger
>>10636264She dropped being the 2nd biggest vtuber behind Kizuna AI years ago to go indie and became even more successful than ever before.Why would she be remotely interested in going corporate again?
Seeing these numbers makes me wonder how it would be if Ai decides to reincarnate or if changing to another company would do something.
>>10636275LMAO
>>10636252kek, it bounced right on 99k
>>10636316She needs to start singing lol. I am tabbed out currently and probably doesn't count.
>>10636307Just compare the average VOD view from Pmaru and Kizuna AI. They're not even in the same ball park in popularity anymore. She's much more popular now than when she was Kaguya Luna.
>>10636337She bounced down hard after showing the 3D model. Maybe she can get to 100k but I’m not sure. Interesting tactics to, to beat the “spam viewer” bot. >start the stream outright instead of letting it scheduled and “waiting for”>let it simmer for some 15m
>>10636223>literal who>2 million subs and formerly 1m as Luna>most popular song has 47m views (significantly more than any vtuber song)I know the point of these is being retarded but please, this one is too much
seems like an awfully low number of superchats for a 3d debut though
>>10636390She's just a normal utaite.
>>10636390She doesn't have gachis because she is not a streamer.
>>10636307The thing is Pmaru has always been popular that's why she got scouted to become Kaguya. AI is AI
>>10636390This probably her first stream. Her short videos, singles, and albums are making banks tho>>10636415
Huh looks like it is stuck at just below 100k.Wonder what she needs to do to break through.
>>10636464Cil vous president.
>>10636464Sil'vous president lol
>>10636415Does she count as a vtuber? Because her activities feels like what Kizuna Ai does most of the time, but rarely people talks about her in vtuber category (but still mentions her left and right).
>>10636555She would count right at this moment because this is her 3d debut.Huh early merch thingie, interesting.
>>10636429So it's kinda like Gura before Gura getting picked for HoloEn then? Lots of short vids that did really well on YT, becomes a chubba...
>>10636555She never had a model until now, she's just a Youtuber rather than a "virtual" one
>>10636555>Does she count as a vtuber?>Because her activities feels like what Kizuna Ai does most of the time>Kizuna Ai>VtuberAnon...
>>10636580Kinda like sen if she was more consistent, dedicated, clear goal, AND creativity to keep it going strong for 5years
she has 1.2billion views.. triple kizuna's main channel
almost 100K for a non-streamer is pretty good
>>10636641Again, giant utaite.
>>10636578I would wait a few weeks before calling anyone using a model a “vtuber” after Pokimane and Pewds (and later Hikakin) pulled that stunt
Sony really dropped the ball with Kaguya Luna
>>10636555Would you say Nayuta is a vtuber?
>>10636675While that is true, this particular one tends to get the pass because they were and have been a vtuber.Think of it as a corpo reviving into an indie and having a model prepared for their resurgence concert.
>>10636685For a brief period Luna was even more popular than Kizuna.
>>10636675The difference would be Kaguya Luna is vtubing royalty and not some trendchaser. Obviously her current content isn't really vtubing content so she wouldn't count normally, but if she does streams with her model or highlight videos with a live2d/3d model, then maybe.
>>10636675Yea. If this is something she pulls out for events primarily and whatnot, she's still just an utatite. I say that as if she's not one of the biggest, but yea.>>10636264Funny Joke Anon, here's a (you).
>>10636701Even then she’s only a vtuber if she actually vtubes. Having a model but not streaming with it is what many did lately
>>10636693Utaite/vsinger.
>>10636743We'll see if she would count in the future. For now, we can numberfag her because it's been a while.
>>10636732>Sodapoppin streams as a Vtuber for a week>is instantly considered a Vtuber>literal Vtuber royalty gets a 3D model for her roommate account>n-no doesn't count because I say soHolocope on maximum overdrive right now, they can't accept an indie is getting better numbers than their whores
>>10636762She will be "convert" at most like Hikakin.
I feel dumb right now realizing Pmaru is earlier than Kaguya....thanks for the replies and info guys.
>>10636701>>10636743>>10636762So she's gonna on the /#/ daily chart or not?
>>10636766>is instantly considered a Vtuberkek, only by that one retard trying to “own the holowhores”, which I assume to be (you)
>>10636312>>10636331>>10636340I fucking hate this board sometimes
>>10636795With how things are normally marked, is say no, but somehow it would also feel right to include her with an asterisk.
>>10636795Well, she doesn't stream so not on the ccvs. That will mess with song charts though. Eh whatever, I'll let someone else think about it.
>>10636093Who is this?? Is she an Indie?? I'm not shitposting, i just really don't know her and i'm kinda amazed she gets these numbers
>>10636795I would say not on today’s for the same reason Hikakin wasn’t when he debuted his model, or when he collabed with vtubers. If she consistently streams with it, why not then?
>>10636838Read up anon, people discussed it extensively in this very thread
>>10636838The #2 vtuber during the AI era, Kaguya Luna.
>>10636838She's Kaguya Luna's original channel after Sony dropped the fucking ball with her.
>>10636838Read the thread before posting
I... don't know what just got announed but it's on December?
>>10636766>Who considered soda vtuber LMAO Delusional retard trying to bait drama go to your dead thread nijinigger, oh you dont have one?
We can compare "convert" only, so she will be compared against Hikakin and mafumafu
did it touch 100k? i saw 99,800
>>10636898Doesn't matter now anon. She's going there.
>>10636898It did now
>>10636910Yep, done and done.
100k with Sil' Vous President
>>10636910Can it reach 110k?
There we fahkin go
Miko is still playing Undertale so that's the Top3 at the same time plus a bunch of other holos also starting.I predictPekora (might struggle to get past 30k)Subaru (might struggle to get past 20k)
>>10636921Was saving this for that exact moment>PMaru, I DOUBLE kneel!
>>10636926ehhh iffy
Holoshit absolutely mogged. This is the power of a real entertainer. Just a little more and it will beat all their 3D debut numbers.
Here is what I got right at the end of that song.Pretty good. Nice numbers PMaru-sama!
>>10636931Little Nightmare numbers aren't that impressive from vtubers who have streamed it so that sounds about right.
nijichads 10k+ arenapmaru 10k+ arenaholoshit? 2k zepp trash LMAOOOOO
>>10636898>>10636921>>10636925>>10636929She's still this powerful, the new era commeth
coco's freechat has 5.5k right now, looks like it'll get pretty good numbers by midnight jst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-p3NdVyliw&ab_channel=PLAYBOARDYou guys need to take a look at this !
Final numbers: 104k
>Look at catalog>Shitters use Pmaru as bait post>Look at here>Same thing happensIt's sad for Pmaru fans or even any vtuber fans who have big numbers because shitposter will use them as shitposting material
>>10636967Nice try false flagger-kun, very good numbers but still behind all of PPTrio
>>10637077That’s just putting a live screen capture on what, hololyzer?
>>10637101pls include her in the chart
>>10636743>streamingAnon... streaming was never a must for a vtuber. Her meta is the OG vtubing meta
>>10637109>Look at here>Same thing happensNot really, very decent discussing except for one (1) retard that might the one breaking containment too
>>10637109Only need Gura's or Mori's 3D debut numbers to shut everyone up, but that's still a long way to go
>>10637152Can’t be in the CCV chart if she doesn’t stream, no?
>>10637050Is this the new era she promised?
>>10637174CCV wasn't really part of her era. That is fine, she'll pop up in other metrics.
>>10637077Finally restarted.It was down for like a day.
>>10637109Eventually it wears you out until you realize that the answer is to just filter the shitposts out and ignore them. None of these posts matter in the long run so it's not worth caring about.In my head, these /#/ threads are better than they actually are since my brain just filters out the garbage now.
>>10637174Fair enough. But we could include her in VOD category for non-streaming vidyas
>>10637039Because in JP holo is not that popular. They know such audience is out of their reach.
>>10637123It's behind only the ones that were pre-CCV cut conveniently. I'll be watching the VOD number instead. She'll definitely mog every sinlge holoshit thot in that area like Fuwa did.
Shirakami Fubuki going to announce something in about 5 min, prediction?https://youtu.be/dH5ruGNPJiQ
>>10637260Hopefully not graduation.But at least that would get some numbers?Heh.... heh.
>>10637260unless is graduation10k max
>>10637244>could include her in VOD category for non-streaming vidyasTallying by hand is already a bitch with live-ranking missing streams left and right. I can only imagine the pain it would be to hand tally VOD views, specially considering it’s not one and one but continuously adding them.
>>10637275It's something positive, but mostly affects memebers is something she tweeted out earlier. doomposting faggots were in her general.Also, what exactly was that annoucment in Pmaru's live, was it a concert in December? Which venue?
>>10637260People somehow already guessed what the announcement is, but might still be there for the surprise.
>Samefaging and FalseflagThis is sad
>>10637200Yeh, her VOD is like Gura's sub tierTOO powerful for other vtubers.
>>10637307Concert this December. Didn't see a day but this is the venue: 両国国技館.10k seating.
Can't believe i missed all the Pmaru stuff.There weren't even that many other vtubers streaming, despite prime time coming up. They were probably watching too,Caught Matsuri's song premiere though,pretty average numbers for her these days and she's still getting some dislikes early on.
>>10637307Ok that is reassuring then.
>>10637342meanwhile holofes>toyosu pit, 3k capacitykusa
>>10637342Its 5k at best like virtual to life
>>106373332-3 minutes vids againts 4-5 hours stream anon....
>>10637109Nijiniggers and Holobronies get no mercy
20k for Fubuki's shitpost. Sasuguh.
>>10637480She's not a streamer,of course it is just a reference...but you can still compare song VOD
>>10637438Are you really using early 2020 Hololive for comparison?
>>10637545They fear that it not a shitpost
ITT: SEAniggers who didnt even know who KL was using her for shitposts
>>10637576I do too. I am still afraid desu.
Miko 25k now.
>>10637576Coco and Haachama really ruined evey announcement stream huh.
>>10637522Shitposter is a true Unityfag
can fbk stall it enough to beat Uno?
25k for miko and fbkstrong showingbut also little overlap and no ppopular niji streaming.
28k on Fubuki's AnnouncementDamn just tell us already Fubuki, i'm so nervous
>>10637438As long as the seats are sold out, it means success for every concert. When covid ends, cover has to reserve a stadium or of similar capacity for holofest
>>10637286Look at this guyLook at him and laugh
32k and climbing
>>10637576Coco gave the entire community PTSD
>>10637662Mito... she they did pass 10k already, so will make the day end list.
>>10637671Not a good idea to reserve huge venues when Japan is declaring a state of emergency every 2 months.
>37k shitpostHow high can it be?
>>10637733The fear was there for a long ass time.
>>10637660yes
My fucking heart stopped when she faked cry
Fbk talking bs and getting numbers smart fox.
>>10637662>and no ppopular niji streamingM-Mito… :(
There it goes.NOW She's gonna announce her graduation.
>40kJesus christ
>>10637757peaked 41k
This is the peak I think
Btw, did people not know?>Birthday: 5 October
Baiting the masses then announcing a 3D event. Now that's how you do an announcement.
>ongoing streams, unfiltered
>>10637773Yea, the fact that Hololive had dodged the bullet of any of the existing chubbas graduating for so long was honest-to-gods a minor miracle. Also, 3d live on YouTube confirmed for the 5th at 9pm JST.
first coco... now fubuki...
>>10637813Yep that should be it.
MOGGEDOGGED
>>1063781341095 by Holostats
>>10637783>>10637748i actually didnt see herstill her shitpost videos should be popular enough to compete
>>10637438>>10637569holy cope
Will miko reach 30k today? She's already 27k +
>>10637853Wait for Moona 3D
>>10637853Damn I freaking kneel
>>10637853>2M subs utaite vs. 500k subs chuubas If I didn’t like Kaguya so much I would be withdrawing my kneeling
Holy shit the view drop fast as fuck after she drop the 3D. People just be there because of fear don't they?
>>10637821People knew, won't stop them from doomposting.>>10637829Despite the incompetence, they are not that bad then. Coco's situation was unique because of chinks.
dont reply to bait, retards
>>10637886Probably, since a lot of people are moving over from Fubuki, till the other streams start at :30
>>10637936Yes. I now have PTSD
>>10637941What if he just replied to his own post though?
>>10637964kek, true
>>10637926For precaution, maybe someone will post Fuwa's 3D
>>10637936First time watching an announcement stream?
>>10637853let me channel dead subs anon>2m+ subs and only 5-10k more ccv>dead subs, what a failure
>>10637941>>10637964he might have. Posters didn't increase
>>10637941>>10637964>>10637976All me btw
>>10637976Stop reply to yourself
>JP primetimealso>SEA primetimealso>Americans are waking upSo, which one is the culprit?
>>10637964yabe, i thought schizo anon is just a meme
Miko is such a shameless whore. Failing against Sam on purpose to try to replicate the Kanata numbers and still can't get past 30k.
>>10638026Don’t forget the down under blokes
>>10637342It's the same place niji had concert at 2 years ago
>>10638059She’s going for “hours watched”, not peak
>>10638061>SEA primetimeI didn't forget
>>10637853Shut the fuck up nijiniggers
>>10637576People need to learn that 重大発表 almost never gets used for negative announcements. 大切なお知らせ is much more possible.
>>10638120Marine...
>>10637937The day of the bug spray can't come soon enough
number of attempts on Miko undertale? and kanatas number?
>>10638120>not a 3D debut vs 3D debutDamn, you sure showed them
>>10638130No that's bullshit and hopium, there's no functional difference between the two terms, it just so happens that Coco used the later for her graduation announcement
>>10627570overturning numbers with big donations is based
>>10638174>Not a 3D debut beats a 3D debut
>>10638174Yea, it's incredible for a birthday 3D live to beat a 3D debut.
>>10634101Pretty good numbers, but when you take anniversary and frequent mc collabs with a new wave into consideration, it becomes apparent that they are not doing so well as it may seem.I bet that Vshojo will overtake them in average/median viewers by November-December this year.
>>10638207With tons of guests and the entire company box pushing it
>>10637937True. Cover and Anykara are the most decent chuuba corpo out there. Good environment to grow + good/fair benefits for the talent.
>>10638174It's actually more impressive
>This much hype for utaitesHow popular would REOL be as a vtuber?
>>10638120>replyingFuck off, now he's gonna post fuwa 3D and the shitposting continues with Gura costume, and then we got another Nijibaseball image THEN Coco graduation. Are you the shitposter accomplice or him with his phone?
>>10638241ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING!
>>10638216It was a 3D birthday debut today.
>>10638241are you serious or just trying to act retarded
>>10638261>How popular would REOL be as a vtuber?Less than her singer self. Hell, less popular than her NND utaite self
>>10638264It's probably the same shitposters that reply to each other, hoping that the rest of us play among with this tired old farce...
>>10638264>>10637964
>>10638264>>10638308SHUSH! You’re spoiling the ending for the newfags
>>10638238>you take anniversary and frequent mc collabs with a new wave into considerationThat's not how median works.Anniversary is only 1-2 streams. Minecraft collabs will continue to happen in the future.>I bet that Vshojo will overtake them in average/median viewers by November-December this year.Who in Vshojo do you have in mind will take over who in HoloEN?Avg CCV for Sept:Nyanners: 7249Veibae: 6852Ironmouse:7541
>>10638194Columns - amount of announcements/amount of sad announcements among them/percentage of sad announcements
>>10638261I'm still waiting for the day Hanatan become a vtuber. Anyway Kamitsubaki's and Hachi's number is pretty good I think.
>>10638402>Nyanners: 7249>Veibae: 6852>Ironmouse:7541And across the board recline. I assume they had some buff in August because both iron and nyanners were over 8k
>>10638481Didnt they had their new 3d models that were ass?
>>10638499I’ll assume it was the grand tour of off company collabs they had in the second semester: Holo, NijiEN, VOMS, plus the Iron-Connor thing
>>10638499They all get it from the same guy don’t they, even Nimu got the same modeler. Makes it look like she’s got a huge fucking chin.
>>10638481Also, it was summer.Wasn't Twitch generally higher viewed during summer?
>stacked couple of slotsAlso: Subaru and Pekora 100% trust there is no overlap between their audiences
>>10638444Past performance is no guarantee of future results, though I do appreciate you backing up your argument with actual numbers.
>>10638481>Have twitch raid>Can't even break 10kVshojo is done
>>10638618Anyone that uses 重大発表 to announce sad news is a huge fucking asshole
>>10638587this is going to turn into a debuff game real quick
>>10638543Artgun is the name you're looking for.
>I-Iofi…This must be the worst thumb/title combo I ever saw. Even Kuzuha doesn’t steep this low in laziness
>>10638481>I assume they had some buff in Augustzoomer audience
>>10638623To be fair, those are averages. The highest peaks those 3 have EVER gotten on Twitch are:Nyanners: 21,133Ironmouse: 24,772Veibae: 18,953Compare those numbers to HoloEN's to see how delusional that anon was.
>>10638563Yes it is, school started and with it went all the causal audiences who were only on twitch to kill time
>>10638402>That's not how median works.Yes, that's how it works. if you have more streams with higher viewers, it'll be higher.>Anniversary is only 1-2 streamsPlus a decent boost for next couple of streams. Easily boosted their averages/medians with minimum 1k viewers. Most likely much more than that.>Minecraft collabs will continue to happen in the future.The biggest thing about these streams, is their novelty - collabs with fresh new wave. You can already notice that these streams started to get less and less viewers. If they continue doing it, they are risking turning MC from a buff game into a normal or even a debuff game.>Who in Vshojo do you have in mind will take over who in HoloEN?They are already comparable/not far from most HoloEN during HoloEN's boosted month. Now go and look at VShojo's averages/medians for other 2021 months and you'll see that unlike HoloEN, they are actually constantly growing. And now, the cherry on top - they're getting new chuubas pretty soon, which will definitely boost them.
>>10638715She's always like that >Doesn't consider overlaps >Can't make interesting thumb for at least bait views
>>10634101Very strong numbersBut I have to say Ame is a fucking retard>Do movie watch-along twice a week>Do superchat reading once a weekThere are 1/3 of her streams are movie watching-along and superchat reading
>>10638779Ame don't care about numbers
>>10638748>they are actually constantly growingThey just reclined this month tho?
>>10638722Weren’t Nyanners and Mousey peaks from Holo collabs?Not sure about Veibae.
>>10638779Yeah >>10638812look at her current schedule, only 1 is considered a stream since she will do movie and members streams this week
>>10638748Do nijiniggers always this delusional?Do you actually check Holostats?
>>10638748MC collabs are so comfy though.
>>10638748>They are already comparable/not far from most HoloEN during HoloEN's boosted month. Which month that would be?>Now go and look at VShojo's averages/medians for other 2021 months and you'll see that unlike HoloEN, they are actually constantly growing.Ironmouse: From 4K to 7k, and that’s the mean average. That’s very good but far away from putting them anywhere near HoloEN top.
>>10638854>for other 2021 months>reclined this month thoBruh. Why are you so shortsighted? It's much more important how much they progressed in a long run than a fucking 1 month period. Chuubas can have a good months and bad months following each other, you can't track if they're reclining or inclining just based on 2 months.VShojo progressed a fucking lot, compared to where they were a year ago. The same cannot be said about HoloEN chuubas.
>>10638748>Streams started to get less and less viewerst.thread only reader Ame just got 20k today, retard
>>10638748>Yes, that's how it works. if you have more streams with higher viewers, it'll be higher.Amelia's 70k 3D stream and 15k anniversary were functionally cancelled out by 2 1k watchalongs. At most, it shifts the median by 1-2 streams.>Plus a decent boost for next couple of streams. Easily boosted their averages/medians with minimum 1k viewers. Most likely much more than that.Except it didn't, their regular streams got essentially the same numbers as the month before. They just had more appealing stream ideas and did less debuff game streams. Everyone in EN is playing a lot more minecraft so their general numbers got boosted too.>You can already notice that these streams started to get less and less viewers. At least check the numbers before sprouting shit like this. They got ~20k last night combined and got 20k tonight, which significantly less members in VC. The only night with abnormal numbers was the night where Gura had her POV as well.>If they continue doing it, they are risking turning MC from a buff game into a normal or even a debuff game.Kek. Every Holo in every branch has been buffed by minecraft for 1.5 years now. They'll graduate before MC becomes a debuff game.
>>10639022Even Bae can get 20k with these impronptu collabs. It's not an achievement.
>>10638940Since their nijishit can't beat Holos they tried VShojo but still fails >>10638748And now the girl who 104k is being used against holos as well.Just accept it, Holos are dominating the numbers board and stop shitposting. Try to atleast used proper arguments
>>10638748>>10638992TOP KEK, here is Nyanners. Reclined all the way back to her March numbers >you'll see that unlike HoloEN, they are actually constantly growing.Growing backwards?
>>10638992>Which month that would be?Like 3-5 recent months. They are pretty close to HoloEN numbers. Or are you just so stupid to think that each HoloEN chuuba has Gura's numbers?>That’s very good but far away from putting them anywhere near HoloEN top.Not the point. The point was that they're indeed constantly growing. HoloEN, in contrary, is stagnating/reclining. This means that by November/December VShojo will most likely pass HoloEN.
>>10638992>Only post ironmouse but not Nyannerskek
>>10639104See >>10639073>>10639097>they're indeed constantly growing.If they’re constant growing how come Nyanners is reclining?
>>10639073oops>>10639097>>10639104
>>10639073Nyanners is done for, Ironmouse is the new queen of Vshojo>long may she reign!
>>10639097>by November/December VShojo will most likely pass HoloEN.By which metric? Average of whole branch? Median of whole branch?
>>10639073>Mousey stealing views from Nyanners...
>>10639022It was her first mc collab with new wave in discord, retard.
>>10639138>>10639097>>10639069Are you guys actual Vshojo fans? Or just nijiniggers trying to use them to shit on holos because your nijishitters are getting dominated?
>>10639198Holohaters or shitposters
>>10639069Except for Nyanners and Ironmouse, 20k is higher than every Vshojo's highest peak ever.If you're trying to make Vshojo sound impressive, that's not a number to downplay.>>10639097>Or are you just so stupid to think that each HoloEN chuuba has Gura's numbers?You seem to be the one forgetting that there's 4 other members of Vshojo who don't come close to the top 3 in numbers.>This means that by November/December VShojo will most likely pass HoloEN.Glad to know that CCV just continues to grow endlessly once it starts.Except it doesn't since >>10638992 and >>10639073 clearly show they hit a wall in May/June and have "stagnated/reclined" since. Meanwhile, Gura increased her median by 5k this month. Does this mean she broke the cycle and is inclining???
>>10639198They’re shitposters who will use anyone to shit on Hololive.Highly doubt any actual vshojo fan would go outside their general.
>>10639178>Seething already
>>10639198Eh, in the end he'll pit holo against holo, its just that recliner gypsy anon but now using vsojo incline bullshit
>>10639034>Amelia's 70k 3D stream and 15k anniversary were functionally cancelled out by 2 1k watchalongs. At most, it shifts the median by 1-2 streams.Now THAT's exactly how median does NOT work. 2x1k watchalongs would not shift it below her previous median.>Except it didn'tIt did, anon, it did. You are retarded if you'll try to cope about "more appealing".>They got ~20k last night combined and got 20k tonight, which significantly less members in VCAlready explained this to some other retarded anon - that was Ame's first VC collab with them.>Every Holo in every branch has been buffed by minecraft for 1.5 years now. They are the first one to abuse it this much. It won't become debuff game in gereral, it will become debuff game for HoloEN.
Guess Pekora isn't getting a 30k today as well. Subaru just had to stream at the same time/game and Miko is still hogging 26-28k views
>>10638992>>10638748Does shitposter not use nijien to shitpost anymore?
>>10639073>Reclined in 3 months less then HoloEN declines in 1 months>Haha, look at VShojo, they hit the wall, they are basically dead.>Inclined during the whole year, whole HoloEN reclined>T-that doesn't count, it's your copeOgey
>>10639405Pekora median this month is around 30k meaning half her streams are below that number
>>10639409Why use nijien, when vsojo beating holoen would be much more humiliating.
>>1063926220k isn't Ame's or Bae's normal MC number. It's the result of having other people together in their streams.
>>10639445>during the whole year>Reclined in 3 months Anon, you’re not even making sense. How can them have inclined during the whole year if she reclined for three months?
>>10639409People still use them outside /#/ with chemistry metric
>>10639445>ESL LmaoI wonder why that guy still respond to this retard ESLcuck
>>10639459Yeah but what i mean is Pekora usually gets more than 30k+ easy on a New Game.Its just that Subaru is playing the same game at the same time and Miko suffering is getting a lot of attention
>>10639339If Ame had 15 streams and 2 1k watchalongs, it doesn't matter if her 2 anniversary streams got 70k or 300k, her median would be her 7th highest stream.>It did, anon, it didSource: Trust meThe rest of your post is too fucking retarded to warrant a response. Can't wait to see Vshojo get the same numbers they're getting now in Dec 2021 and see what your cope is then. Wait, nvm. By then, you'll have another target to shitpost about.
>>10639488ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING!
>>10639489Anon, if you are that dense, take a calculator and sum up all those numbers. And you'll see whether they inclined or reclined.
>>10639468Except VShojo won't beat HoloEN and NijiEN can't even be use as comparison since they'll look like a bunch of failures lmao
>>10639468Why isn’t Vshojo beating NijiEN humiliating considering they are the 2nd biggest vtuber group after Hololive.
>>10639488Who said it was a normal MC number? The comment was about the irony of him downplaying 20k when trying to flex Vshojo's numbers.
Does VoD views contribute much to their revenues?
Miko just beat Sans, but oof bad luck for numbers since she "only" peaked at 31k due to how much competition there is right now amongst Holos.
>>10639626Individually no, total they add a nice chunk of change.Rough rate is around 1-4k per million views.
Is memberships the new superchat meta?
>>10639567>>10639468Wrong Move to mention NijiEN anon. Now they'll be included in the discussion and be exposed as bunch of failures compared to Holos & Vshojo
>>10639658just hit 34k now
>>10639567Beating a dead branch isn't that impressive anon chama
>>10639626It can.https://youtu.be/NLO5-IyS5pE
>>10639509>The rest of your post is too fucking retarded to warrant a response.Honestly, can say the same about your whole post.>If Ame had 15 streams and 2 1k watchalongs, it doesn't matter if her 2 anniversary streams got 70k or 300kYou are talking like there were 10x1k watchalongs, not just 2. Looks like you need to do your reps on basic math.>Can't wait to see Vshojo get the same numbers they're getting now in Dec 2021 and see what your cope is then.Now that's the first sane thing coming from you. Let's just wait and see, can't wait that moment to have a good laugh at how foolish you are.
>>10639550>>10639567Don't worry anons, NijiEN will be the next one in line to mog holo. VShojo will rape HoloEN first and they NijiEN will rape their half-dead body.
Okay, since we're at bump limit, and China was brought up in last thread wrt clamping down, I present to you, this. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/investing/china-evergrande-group-debt-explainer-intl-hnk/index.htmlOne of China's big conglomerates is looking to be in some deep shit, and it's been on the downturn since the start of the year. Probably a hearld of things to come, so if you've got investments in anything China related, the best time to move them would've been at the start of Q2, but now isn't too late before shit really hits the fan. Entertainment getting clamped down on as a way to control news and info most likely, and I don't see chubbas being spared the eventual restrictions.
>>10639567Because both are based and they make holobronies seethe. Vshojo and Niji pals have no beef with each other.
>>10639811Ogey
>>10639825Both are garbage so they flock together?
>>10639825Seethe? How? They’re literally under HoloEN in EVERY metric… It’s literally been months since people kept saying “NijiEN will mog HoloEN, just look at their 1k incline!” This shit has been repeated a lot and we’re here to discuss numbers and not midgets okay? Hololive, Kuzuha, Niji events, and the occasional indie streams.
Kuzunigger where are you? Save this thread with your numbers! too many imaginary post lately without you King
>>10639824I wonder how long til they try to kill Vtubing in China. Sure there’s rules in place now but as long as they’re not enforced it doesn’t matter too much.
>>10639984just like this
>>10639984>Seethe? How? >proceeds to seethe in his postHolobronies have no self-awareness
>>10639073The future of Vshojo sure looks bright.
>>10640024It’s not seething when you’re tired of reading the same shit every thread. Dumbass ESL Nijinigger
>>10640041Nijiniggers crying because a lot Holos getting 20k+ today and Nijiflops don’t have Kuzuha streaming. Seethe
Subaru and Kanata for tomorrow's Shinymas shilling. For comparison, Mito and ririmu got 10.3k.
>>10639770>You are talking like there were 10x1k watchalongs, not just 2She did 4 watchalongs and 2 SC reading streams this month out of 22 total streams so close enough.Please explain how that doesn't affect median more than 2 anniversary streams.
>>10640041>>10640024Its just being annoyed from all your shitposting and delusions
>>10639626I would say about $5k per million views when they are really long (+3h) and $3k to $4k when shorter than 3h
>>10639198HAHAHAHAAnon you honestly believed those were nijiniggers posting bait in here?
>>10640067>>10640093Keep seething holobronies lmao. Vshojo and Niji will continue to live in your heads rent free.
>>10639824>implying there's people here who would invest thereBut, if gamers aren't spared, then vtubers wouldn't either. Next thing we know is Asoul becomes a CCP puppet and bili2 is forced to dissolve VR or buy them from niji(?) but is it really worth it to keep 40+ VR chuubas? They don't have a Kuzuha or a Pekora and the branch relies too much on their JP main branch.
Its seems 38k is Miko's peak for this run. She actually did a lot better than Kanata, i thought it'll take her 400+ tries considering how she struggled on Undyne
>>10640094I would guess somewhere in the 30k range?
No significant number from niji today? that's probably why there's too much liter and seething
>>10640158You never know, we've got unironic chink bugs and chink symphatizers around here
>>10640152>Nijinigger having Holochads on their mind rent freeOuch, sorry anon don’t cry
>they keep giving it (You)'sHolobros, thanks for keeping the thread alive i guess? But please stop doing it on the next thread ok?
>>10640116So Gura made anywhere from 180k to 900k from ad revenue? (180.4m channel views)
>>10640152Do you even know what living rent free in your head means?Pretty sure they were only included in discussions because you fuckers started shitposting using them
>>10640224It's always shocking to see how easy it is
>>10640192Niji reclining...
>>10640224Everyone is just making fun of the Vshojo retard. If he's real, then it was fun shitting on his delusions.If he's a falseflag, at least it was funny.
It’s really weird. Holos got many streams to 30k and 20k today and no Niji made it past 10k but why are there many people seething at Hololive? Isn’t this the numbers thread? Not the Nijicope thread?
>>10640224>>10640251>Nijiniggers seething seeing Holo’s numbers todayKek
>>10640274But no holo get 100k tho what's the point? All of them beaten by comeback chick
holochads lives rent free in your head with that daily shitpost
>>10640208>>10640321>holo and chads in the same sentenceDoes not compute
>>10640319Sorry for using the Nijicope but 2.05m subs can’t beat Miko 3D stream… Also we’re talking about Niji vs Holo here, using other chuubas is just pure Nijicope
>>10640319>comeback chickRetard doesn't know Pmaru has been making content non-stop for more than a year.
(you) get, pretty easy
>>10640274the sultan won yesterday. today was taken by an indie. hololosers continue to lose.
>>10640515You do realized that the conditions of winning the day was changed from majority of top 10s to just top 1 due to the fact that nijinigs can't stop seething that Holos takes the win almost every day in a week?
>>10640515>Retarded Nijinigger talking about a nigger doing retarded stuffKek. Nijiniggers really live up to their name
>top 2016 holos>top 2520 holosis niji doing alright? and they are barely on the rank today
Kuzuha is streaming BoTW ep 3 so at least 1 Niji is going past 20k today.
>>10640158Asoul might already BE a CCP puppet for all we know, or at least their higher ups are considering swearing fealty to the CCP like Mihoyi did to avoid the axe. As for VR? Gods only know what Niji is thinking right now regarding the situation as it's rapidly unfolding. I wouldn't envy them, that's for sure. At least Hololive will be shielded from any issues since they already bit the bullet on getting out.
>>10640630Today’s Holo numbers are much much stronger and will embarrass Nijiniggers to dust. All the cope they will have is that 2m sub indie which Nijinigs call a ‘who’
>>10640515>indies always on nijinigger sideYes, cope.
>>10640431I wonder if it's always the same anons who just can't help themselves
>>10640719With 396 posts and 68 posters...probably, that and some amount of dramafags that like to drop by for easy (you)s.
>>10640630>Emperor hal lose to Lamy snake game
Always hilarious to see delusional anons posting about Nijisanji dying when they're literally spamming with goods, music releases and events for months.
>>10640374we can play the same game
>>10640699They would just cut them off.As far as I remember, bilibili owns them but Nijisanji provides the tech and is more of an investor.
wasn't this guy super popular?
Always hilarious to see delusional anons posting about Hololive dying when they're literally spamming with goods, music releases and events for months plus has better CCV than most corpo vtuber
>>10640838Really? Then why are they considered part of Nijisanji when 774 has about the same amount of Niji investment but is clearly seen as something different?
coco's freechat at 12k now
>>10640831Yes, those regular looking people are totally comparable to 300kg fatasses
>>10640862Maybe for the first 2 weeks, but he still makes a shitton of SCsThis is his 6th or 7th Ark stream in a week and NijiArk numbers have declined the past few days.
>>10640913Niji wanted their branding in China. They already had two failed attempts in China before VR (Nijisanji Taipei and Nijisanji Hong Kong iirc).
>Niji afternoon and primetime so farNot a particularly strong day
You know if you retards are going to stoop this low I'd rather we just talk about China instead.
>>10640920thats just the average american
>>10640374>>10640920>gura's audience is actually fat balding ojisansyou guys told me only zoomers watch her
>>10640920Stop being so fucking autistic. Has Nijicope gone so low for Nijiniggers to compare fan’s weight?
>>10640974Kuzuha and Ange are coming to save the day, altho its unlikely for either to reach 30k, let alone Fubuki's 40k.
Always hilarious that /#/ threads always devolves into tribalniggers central at around the same hours everytime. Hey at least the you guys have a job i guess.
>>10640920Let's wait until nijis get their own convention appearances--oh wait no, they aren't popular enough for that? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I guess we'll never know how your average nijinigger looks like
>>10640915imagine if coco mogs everyone from the grave today
He had to say it twice, pitiful coping.
>NijiEN dayDecent collab numbers (for NijiEN standards), overlap didn't help them tho
>>10640116What about under 5 minutes like songs?
>>10641072iirc People could still wait a few minutes after the scheduled time before the stream disappears completely
>>10640913Rules WRT outside investment in China. You either work with an existing company in China or set up a subsidiary that you own shares of and can give the final say for things such as shutting down the branch, but is otherwise independent in most day-to-day operations (this is what HoloCN was, and why the Chinese statement of "cover supports the one-china principle" was able to be released by HoloCN without Cover vetting it. With 774, it's just Niji investment much like Sony invested in Anycolor, unless I've misunderstood something wrt the setup going on there.
It's crazy how fast Korean Hololive clippers are growing, especially after knowing that some members are Korean.
Wait, VR could really cutoff with Anykara if the two agrees that it'll become problematic if CCP intervenes?
>NijiKR dayThere Bora Nun, then there is a [POWER GAP], then there is the rest of the branch
>>10641265Also: Didn't Ban Hada pick the WORST moment to stream Genshin kek
>>10641265Im actually surprised that they can reach 1k+
>>10641240I'm surprised they didn't make a Kronii/Ina collab in Korean yet.
>>10641143Pomu and Finana getting 3.6k for a horror game is pretty great.Rosemi's solo phasmo turned into a 4-man collab, which is why it rose to 2.2kSelen getting 50% of her apex numbers playing Crash Bandicoot is unfortunate
>>10641063
>>10641296The same for finana, but people would still be SCing her to pull for gacha. Seems like she's rolling for kokomi today?
>>10641240I always find it interesting how they’re way more accepting of a foreign korean than a native korean.>>10641253I wonder how that would work. Wouldn’t they get banned for leaving China as wel?
>>10641330Show the crowd shot
>>10641253It's happened before, with AKB48's chinese branch, I don't see why they can't do it again.
>>10641253Depends on the specifics of the contract they set up, but with the CCP looking to remove outside influences on their entertainment companies, it's looking like a possiblity sometime in the (nearer than a month ago) future.
>>10641253They can always do the ARM china route
>>10641265NijiKR might be a failure but the fact that Bora can get better numbers than even Selen is both a testament to her ability to maintain her JP audience and an indictment on NijiEN.
>>106412651000 for NijiKR is already huge. 200 is what they usually get.
>>10641312Honestly catering to a small section of the audience like that is a mixed bag. It might grow that segment, but it's got a very limited overall appeal. It might be better to just let the clippers grow your brand. Korean audiences sometimes dislike overt pandering, though that can be tough to quantify.
>>10641007Fuck off these are averge chumbuds and teamates
>>10641042It's CN/SEA/AU time
>>10640226I did some (lazy) math here a few weeks ago about Gura's ad/premium revenue using this video as a base linehttps://youtu.be/NLO5-IyS5pEIn this video they have a example of a 4 hours VOD with 1.6M views who got about 4 times more revenue from YT Premium than what they get from adsGura's VODs on average have about half of the views and 3/4 of the duration4 x 1/2 x 3/4 = 1.5Gura's revenue from YT Premium should be about 1.5 times the ad revenueIf you take a conservative estimation of $2k per million views from ads, she would be getting a extra $3k from YT Premium162M views x $5k = $810k18M views x $2k = $36k (Music VODs are too short to get Premium revenue)Total revenue from VODs $846kShe has other revenue sources>Superchat $792k>Spotify $20k (just from Reflect)>Membership +$40k per month (She has at least 10k members)>Sponsorships>Merch>iTunes and other streaming services
>>10641330When was this and show some crowd shot
>>10641344Well, they seem to be in a precarious situation. Stay with VR, they'll have to abide with new CCP rules. Leave VR, raging antis, permissions blocked and another branch closed. It's not like the drama from the Taiwan yab, where the Taiwanese/HK loves Coco&Hololive due to them backing out from China completely. Nothing they can get from the drama later on. Just failed business ventures.
>>10641461Cute chumbud
Lamy at 9.5k for D2R. As much as I despise current blizzard, I have very fond memories of D2. What I wouldn't give to have all of NePoLaBo do mephisto run streams
>>10641429Some of them are getting pretty good numbers nowadays, 1k viewers is nothing to scoff at, and even 200 viewers for Ban is pretty decent considering that they were getting under triple digits not too long ago.
>>10641265Checked their streams and all of em are speaking japanese wtf except that mia girl (last one).
>>10641461nice trannies
>>10641429Bora caters to the JP apexfags, same as Selen. Nothing concrete will come out from paying Apex all week for numbers. >>10641446
>>10641344Koreans are very status conscious. They are super proud of Korean food, dramas, movies, and kpop but only since they are considered excellent world wide. They don't want a second rate Korean vtuber, they want a top tier vtuber (read: Hololive) who appreciates their culture/language. If Ina/Kronii threw them a bone they could further solidify their stranglehold, but ideally it would be Gura.
>>10641597Kronii is fucking hot right nowEveryone collab with her will get big numbers
>>10641344Koreans hate korean women, whites hate white women, supposedly.
>>10641597Gura already sang Galaxy and got like 600k on a KR clipper channel on top of Kronii singing HIP/Villain. That's enough pandering from them.Nene gets better SCs from KR despite being in the JP branch.
>>10641657They don't hate Kronii at all, retard
>>10641488I suspect this is part of the reason Kiara streams the way she does. Long streams like hers will give her a lot of premium revenue. Also Gura has way, way more than 10K members.
>>10641696>hafuNot a korean
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>>10641597They dont want nijis lmao heres nijikr pandering to eops still losing to 100% korean vtubers
>>10641703>Discord only>30k members alreadyHoly moly
16k in coco free chat
>>10641703>>10641802Update pls
>>10641802Obviously that's probably not an exact number, but notice how little fucks all the Myth girls seem to give about SC as time goes on except maybe Kiara who uses it more as audience engagement and zatsu. They have so many other revenue streams now.>>10641674Jesus a Korean clip of a Gura karoke has more views than most Holo originals/covers. The comments are interesting too. They seem pumped a big foreign vtuber is covering a Korean song. Fuck they even added Korean subtitles that's hilarious.
>>10641895Excuse me.Wat. She has 45k members?Is that even reliable? Does the discord server actually check/cull memberships?
>>10641253Like this guy >>10641397 said, they are Chinese, they can even if AnyKara doesn't agree to. If AKB48, as big as they were both domestically and internationally (well, in the Asia area at least) at their peak before, couldn't stop it, Niji wouldn't be able to do much either
>>10641895Huge portion of that are not active members
>>10642045I would think so, there's no way that discord is actively checking each of those members are still active. I can believe she's had at least 45k people membered to her total, but memberships get cancelled for one reason or another, and I doubt Gura is an exception.
>>10641895Okay, is that number accurate for her members? What if you can lie your way into that member channel?
>>10641488>Youtube Premium is totally Gura's main source of income guys...Guys accept that your memeshark is a failure chumbronies and your fanbase is full of literal children who can't afford shit without having to ask mommy for allowance. 3 mil subs? More like 3 mil deadsubs rumao
>>10641488I wouldn’t be surprised if a Gura has made more than a million after taxes.If Kiara has at least 300-400k (Kiara mentioned she qualifies for Japan’s rich person visa if she wanted to) I can’t imagine how much Gura has.
>>10641488So basically she's raking in a lot of money, got it. That is actually very good news since I remember her talking about being a janitor in the past, which means she must have lived a very frugal life in the past. I'm glad Hololive is able to give her the platform to truly succeed.
>>10641895This is not membership............
>>10641895i can actually believe this number because she coddles her members too muchgura does member karaoke very often (the new one soon) despite once said it requires a lot of time to practice a new songs
>>10642114You have to show proof that you are a member befofe they give you access to the members only channels but iirc that number there is the over all number of people in the discord - not necessarily the number are Membershrimps. To have a more accurate number you have count the number of people that have the Membershrimp tag, but also keep in mind that there may be people that are members but haven't bothered to unlock the members channels in the discord (like me)
kek already 18k waiting and 360 members
>>10642181Try harder cope retardThis never gets oldImaging calls the world most famous vtuber a failure
>>10642299>He never uses discord mod
Current record (waiting room): Coco's graduation(220K+)
>>10642369Okay, 45k people for a discord makes way, way more sense and better tracks with the numbers we have for her membership.
>Nijisanji primetime so farThe king never fails to deliver
>>10642397>When people talk about most popular vtuber their first thought is Gura>When people talk about most popular youtuber their first thought is PewdiepieSimple as
>>10642397>World's most famous Vtuber>loses in Superchats to peoppe with les than 1/3rd her subs>loses in CCV to people who speak a language understood by only one island country>loses in VOD to a Tokyo Ghoul cosplayerOh no oh no, Nijikeks, am I supposed to kneel?
>imagine being this salty and envious of one humble shark
Get ready for a mogging from the grave.
>>10642539>Loses in VOD to a Tokyo GhoulNot this retard again...
>>10642518but this thread told me he is nothing without apex?
I mean, is Kuzuha a globally well-known vtuber?
>>10642539None of these has any correlation lmao
>>10642692>show actual important metrics where she is irrefutably a failure>b-but muh subsCope and seethe faggot. Subs are meaningless when those 3 mil won't even bother watching you stream or send a superchat
>>10640167The directional changing arrows messed her up bad on Undyne. She just couldn't wrap her head around them. The Sans fight, while certainly a lot tougher and much more intense, is also a lot more striaghtforward.
>>10642746Oh nyo~
>>10642746>his 1m subs not even watch his original song
>>10642539Gura has 30 VODs that above 1M views (not including music)How many 1M VODs does your shitty king have?
>>10642746Say Kuzuha has more CCV why doesn't he has more SC? Why doesn't he has more VOD? Why does he lose to someone who streams less than him?
>>10642837Kuzuha has 12 above one million (stream VODS, not countings songs). The interesting thing is that 6 of those 12 came from August 2021 from the celebrity collab buffs and the baseball buff.
Can't wait to see Coco getting 30k and people comparing numbers to a dead vchuuba to Japan's most popular male chuuba
>>1064260826K
How's the original song going? conveniently left out >>10642539couldn't even overcome Senchou's record.
>>10642900
>>10642896Similar to Marine (different type of video though)
>>10642642>>10642837He is higher in total views and gets more monthly VOD views than her, therefore he makes more money out of his VODs.
>>10642837>b-but Gura has videos with 1 mil views>has 3 mil subsSo you concede that at least 2/3rds of Gura's sub count are deadsubs? That's all you needed to say chumpedo
This is getting dumber by the minute
>>10642958Not surprise, he has more old videos like Pekora + more streams
all it takes is one bait and everyone bites, you cant make this shit up lmfao
>>10642991Please don't expect much from children arguing, anonJust ignore them and leave them be
Anons.... Who should I kneel?
good to see kuzuha channel still has a rent free spot in the minds of some anons (also don't forget to superchat him the shitpost fee x)
>>10642991just a few more hours and they start going to sleep
>>10642967I’m not even gonna bother with retarded Nijiniggers wanting 100% of subs to watch streams. Are all Nijiniggers like this? Also % doesn’t matter, you could have an indie having 5 subs and 4 viewers and by Nijilogic it would mean they mogged the entirety of Niji
Aaand check, Kuzuha vs Gura for the curtain call. Bravo /#/. And the winner of the day goes to, this anon for garnering the most shitposts>>10638238
>>10643034Kneel to fbk 41k instead
>>10643034oh no no no
>>10642958>Stream more hours (10+)>More viewsDoes nijiniggers don't do math?
>>10643034>a non-stream has more viewers than the "king"LOL
>>1064290030k easy
>>10643046>Nijinigger acting like the Kuzushits weren’t the first ones mentioning himWow what a surprise! How smart you are anon! And what a great insight you have!
>>10643034Coco pls stop mogging the King
Holy shit was trying to find Gura's Galaxy clip but it turns out there are actually multiple >500K Korean clips of her singing that song. Jesas. Tbf her voice is perfect for that piece and apparently her Korean pronunciation was excellent
>K-KING....The peasants are surely staging a rebellion, KING DO SOMETHING!
>>10643034Coco's ghost still hauting nijiniggers.
Is this Cover's attempt to bot a free chat? I was told that Cover uses bots on their events, what's going on guys?
>>10643186the IQ in here gets lower and lower, Jesus christ.
>>10643152and yet you find yourself unable to ignore random SEA kids using him to troll. he sure has a hold on you anon.
Okay put your cards on the table beforehand. Under/over on peak waiting? If by chance Coco actually makes a final brief performance where do you think it will peak? I'll guess 60K on waiting, 100K if she shows up.
Coco's graduation wasn't even the end. She is still mogging Nijiniggers from beyond the grave.
>>10643176Is this dark mode on YT browser?
>>10643186>everything I don't like can only be explained by botsAt least you're not specifically saying "russian bots", which is double dumb
>>10643212Kson is doing a membership stream right now.
>>10643220>Is this dark mode on YT browser?Dark mode on regular Youtube, which I screencapped and merged
>frog yeah this is it, /#/ is dead.
>>10643212i'd say there'll be 40-45k waiting. not sure what it'll be if she does show
>>10642967>Oh no no no Pewdiepie's average views not even 2% his subs guess he's done
>>10643260She has to know. Maybe a chat message? I could see it going either way but just letting it end seems anticlimactic.
>>10643266God my eyes became better now that I realized there's YT dark mode
>>10643281Nooe, that is the thing with numbers. Everyday there are Nijiniggers being mogged and Holochads there to mock them.
>>10643213So what? Why do you care? Do I live rent free in your mind then? You are as retarded as that SEAmonkey
>>10643335Speak english newfag
35K waiting
>>10643433It's going to beat fbk announcement..
Welcome to the family Pmaru-sama. The list is so beautiful.
>>10643281https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/IxmQQlqFTHWzbuyqMtGorw/Oh god it's an actual /pol/ faggot too
>>10643497Hikakin: Convert? Get over here
40K cleared
>>10641976assuming this is the "official" one, member roles are handled by image recognition bot so numbers should be fairly accurate
Contrails fell off the publicly available chart, not that that's very surprising since on the digital singles chart only Suisei and collab songs have managed to stay a second day. Half the chart is also hogged by a series of new Love Live releases.And speaking of Suisei, Still Still Stellar fell to sixth which is fine enough. But everyone not called Snow Man had their sales fall hard plus the album that overtook her was 25th yesterday and selling only around 2k the day before, so it's not impossible her sales are already in three digits. On the other hand I could swear her songs never had that preview listen button on Oricon before, so maybe they're taking her seriously now or it's just Cover being late to things as usual.
>>10643631Are holobronies stupid? Do they think she's going to come back or something? There's absolutely no reason for her to.
>>10643731Who said anything about her coming back?
>>10643679Oh, jeez. Well then...Uh...I'm going to have to assume that that's just total individuals that have at once time membered or not, because otherwise that's way more active members than I think anyone here realized.
>>10643731They're paying respect and giving that channel a send off.
What's the highest number of Sep.? Gen 3 announcement?
>>10643722Do we have another vtubers album number for comparison? I can only found Rain Drops sold 16k in a week.
>>10643731I didn't know a nijinigger can be more retarded than they already were today... you a seanigger with the lack of critical thinking?
>>10643497hey I want in too
>>10643809The girl from today obviously, 100k
>>10643853Should be a different category with Poki, Lily, Soda and Hikakin in it. Immigrants.
>>10643853https://youtu.be/MdikvVRl8tMOnly 100M? pathetic
>>10643771never checked the discord myself, but comparing to other holos 45k sounds closer to total users(lurkers included)still, someone like Marine still pulls over 10k viewers in membership streams so the real headcount for Gura is probably as ridiculous if not more
Almost 50k people kneeling.
50k now
50K
Why are these retards membering lmao. Holobronies truly are braindead. Go support Kson instead you fucking retards.
STOP THE COUNT
>>10643953Those aren't new memberships retardchama.
>>10643731This is Coco without HololiveHowever, this is Hololive with Coco
>>10643995Some of them are
>>10643949Sultan.. your Minecraft castle..
this is like meme review all over again
Pegora's numbers are suffering
Where were they on Coco's regular broadcasts? rarely breaks 10k, fucking tourists
>>10644116She's got her 24k then moved now to talking.
>>10644139SEETHEEETHE
>>10644139Sums up holofags
Nijinigger in shambles after seeing Coco free chat number..
A lot of seething in this thread, I'm so happy
I propose the next op be Coco in honor of her memory
>>10644218One singular Nijinigger?
>>10644257Coco free chat numbers for the OP
>>10643822I only have this which is the total sales at the beginning of this year. It's not outright impossible Suisei outsold YuNi already on release day which is the closest reasonable comparison as it's the best-selling solo artist chuuba. On the other hand, these may and probably have kept selling since then.
>>10644257The one thing this thread needs the least is anything at all that may be attractive to any audience not already present in this containment thread.That anon with the random shitpost manga panels did the best thing for this thread and I hope people continue doing it like that
70K
>>10644364They don't even need to have anything at all, even just letting the OP intro start would be excellent, 15 minutes of intro on loop and done
>>10644327Where do you get this spreadsheet?
>>10639770>You are talking like there were 10x1k watchalongs, not just 2. Looks like you need to do your reps on basic math.>he doesn't know how median worksGet off this thread, shiposter-kun.
>>10643942Jeez...Well, that amount of members would put her handily in the top 10 on Twitch for subs 40k for 10th). Not a 1:1, but good grief that is a lot of members considering that not all members even know ore care about that discord ( I don't even have the link for it for example)
>>10644415Nothing's gonna happen
It just doesn't stop.
>>10644430This thread. It's probably from 5ch originally.
>Coco chat room>the numbers>UUUUOOOOOHH
>>10644327Holy shit Prismatic Colors sold really well. Anyway Suisei sold 11.7k in two days according to https://www.billboard-japan.com/d_news/detail/104464/2
>>10644139I don't give a fuck about Coco's streams (and even less about Kson's). I do respect her contribution to Hololive and am willing to participate in her final sendoff, though, since she was friend with my oshi and all that. Also curious what's going to happen, or if they are just going to pull the free chat stream off the moment it goes live for a laugh
>>10644327>>10643722She sold 11k physical, this isn't including digital which I imagine will make up most of her sales.
95k jesus mc fucking christ
105k.. coco mogging from the grave i kneel
105k lmao
IT WONT STOP GOING UP
Fucking tourists, now you broke Pmaru sama's record
It's over 110k, will this be recorded in the CCV list?
>this many people waiting for nothing when they could be supporting Kson insteadBrand idolatry at its finest
SOMEBODY STOP HER
>comes back from the dead just to mog on PmaruThe Guardian Angel of Hololive
>118k peak
Coco going out with one last W.Fucking love this bitch.
She's dead...
Thank you for comparing hololive to a literal multibillion dollar company retardchama. I hope it turns into reality so they can setup studio in NA
116k mogged the Indie. What were Nijiniggers saying again? Never mess with Hololive again you pathetic monkeys.
>>10644701You mean dramafags?
Pmaru mogged! We did it reddit!
Kneel.
Here is the number right before midnight JST>106,645
>>10644777>>10644813Sorry but it was after midnight and it's not going to show up on the ranking
>>10644708No, waiting rooms' numbers have never been recorded, unless you meant for the OPs >here to manually include them >>10644735Coco and Kson aren't the same
>>10644946it didn't go live anyway
>>10644939Here is the final number>>10644946>it was after midnightSee >>10644939
cant believe it ended up beating pmaru lmfao
Excuses nijikeks, more excuses!
>>10644708>It's over 110k, will this be recorded in the CCV list?Nope. Like premieres, waiting rooms aren't ranked because no site picks them up
>>10645002go back to your printscreen and dont crop her channel name this time..
>>10645047WHO?
>>10643212Fuck I underestimated reddit Dragon. Coco I kneel
>Coco mogging people from beyond the graveThe absolute state of holoantis kek
>>10645002Nope, I saw 102k before midnight. You screenshotted some random number.
>>10645084Here it goes
I'm a holofag, don't shit on Pmaru sama. shit on that nijinigger insteadI recommend her debut stream, she's good.
>>10641369>>10641514>AX Lite>crowd shotSamepost-chama?
>>10645160thank you, saved
>>10645173Anon, people here watched it. There is one (1) retard trying to shitpost using her numbers, but most people have the deepest respect for Kaguya / PMaru and wouldn't bite the bait anyway
It wont go on any list or anything like that, but coco gave us one last gift of numbers.
hahaha wtf Coco, mogging some oldies doing 3D debut kek
Nijiniggers so embarrased
Coco was, is and will be our number queen
>93 ipFucking tourist
>>10645244>holobrony trend hoppers knowing who she is or watching anything outside of holoshitNice joke
>>10645321Kneel nijinigger
Where is Coco's number on the ranking, holobronies? I don't see it?
>>10645244yeah, he is pretty pathetic
>>10645321Not worse than a nijinigger quick to use her for shitposting
>>10645293>and will be our number queen* TELEPORT BEHIND YOU *>NOTHING PERSONEL, KIDDO!
Did anyone archive the chat to see how many members were gained through it?
>>10645423Check Hololyzer
>>10643731I mean, technically they could stream a pre-recorded video or even some music covers Coco did if they want. They uploaded a complete portion of Coco's last song in the graduation stream after she was already off technically.
>>10644569Pretty good sales for Suisei.Are these total sales or Japan sales only (physical).
>>10645605Japan only. We will never get the total worldwide sales.
#1 trending worldwide
>>10644569this makes me curious of what the sales for an average anime OP or ED release is, can suisei's sales be compared to those kinds of releases?
>>10645641Yea, too many different online retailers/resellers to try and keep track of. Still, at 3000 yen per, that's 45m YEN in album sales that have been tracked, not bad.
>>10645718#止まらない桐生会ココで待ってる
>>10643497Wait. Is Pmaru really going to convert to VTubing full time?
Here, to numberfag this thread a little>posts per hour in this thread (>>10624256)Time in JST>13:00: 10>14:00: 12>15:00: 8>16:00: 5>17:00: 5>18:00: 21>19:00: 124>20:00: 112>21:00: 91>22:00: 87>23:00: 121
>>10643220Are you surprised or what?
>>10645930Yeah, didn't know there was a dark mode for YT for years.
Watame got a significant boost in viewers from this
Next holomogging,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXB26PzV31k
>>10645780Pretty crazy.Not factoring in foreign sales and digital sales too.From what can be seen publicly the ~$42 digital version outsold her ~$21 version and both topped charts as well.
>>10644569>11kIs that good or bad?
>>10645977they just didnt count while they were tabbed out on cocos chat
>>10645926Same chart, but times in EDT>00:00: 10>01:00: 12>02:00: 8>03:00: 5>04:00: 5>05:00: 21>06:00: 124>07:00: 112>08:00: 91>09:00: 87>10:00: 121Big question is>is the incline the result of burgers waking up or SEA salaryman going home for the primetime
>>10645780On top of most of the money goes to Suisei and not divided to different singers like raindrops. Suisei is really raking in money like Mori as singers that releases albums under hololive yet there's no record deals for both of them.
>>10645766Coincidentally there is a group within Hololive who has released anime ED. Can't find the number though.https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/w/2021-09-13/p/2/
>>10645483Hololyzer doesn't keep data from privated or excluded videos
>>10646080SEAfags back home and eating dinner just in time for Pmaru mogging into the eventual Coco mogging. Nijifags? Reduced to atoms.
>>10646089>no record dealsDoes not signed into major label good for them?
>>10646124>>10645483Saw 845 15 minutes before the stream. Might had reach 1k before chat is disabled.
>>10646089It’s the pros and cons of working at Hololive.Get no support making the songs but in exchange you get to keep most of the earnings.>>10646163In this case yeah. Record company is supposed to give you the resources and marketing to make your music successful. They tend to take a huge percentage of your revenue though.
>>10645996If its a slow ballad type song probably not but if its upbeat then yes. She said she did lots of singing and its quite different from her usual stuff so it’s pretty uncertain at this point.
>>10646163Yes, very. It’s basically like signing up for a company. Which means they take a share of your profits. Unlike in the west, they usually take up to 50% profits (ex-kpopfag)
>>10646234Did raindrops had a record label signed to them?
>>10646384They’re signed by universal music group if I recall.