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>> No.10469554

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>> No.10469570
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You can see the moment Pekora finished.

>> No.10469585
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* YESTERDAY TOP *


>67,454: Noel (Hololive)
>63,118: Inui Toko (Nijisanji)
>57,126: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>47,871: Fuwa Minato (Nijisanji)
>43,361: Kaede Higuchi (Nijisanji)
>41,127: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>29,875: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,982: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,742: Miko (Hololive)
>23,582: Gura (Hololive)
>22,084: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>20,452: Kaida Haru (Nijisanji)
>20,075: Lamy (Hololive)
>17,848: Rushia (Hololive)
>17,182: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,041: Ayame (Hololive)
>15,089: Ina (Hololive)
>15,017: Flare (Hololive)
>14,979: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,301: Watame (Hololive)
>14,298: Fubuki (Hololive)
>14,095: Leos Vincent (Nijisanji)
>13,831: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,532: Shubuya Hal (Indie)
>12,155: Mio (Hololive)
>11,899: Baelz (Hololive)
>11,889: Himawari Honma (Nijisanji)
>11,749: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,746: Kiara (Hololive)
>11,493: Kurumi Noa (VSPO)
>11,098: Bora Nun (Nijisanji)
>10,708: Reid (Indie)
>10,636: Shinomiya Runa (VSPO)
>10,438: Watame (Hololive)

>> No.10469680

>>10469570
Tough luck for Moona, had Pekora ended 10 minutes later she would catch part of her outflow too

>> No.10469682

>3D LIVE OF THE MOST PROMINENT FEMALE VTUBER AND OLD GUARD OF NIJISANJI WITH GUESTS AND THE ESTEEMED CUNNYSIER, TOUYA
>3D LIVE OF A KNIGHT THAT HAS A SOULFUL VOICE WITH GUESTS

WHO WILL WIN???

>> No.10469720

>>10469680
Pekora is still holding 20k hostage in her stream.

>> No.10469763

>>10469720
Those are the die hard nousagi tho (her absolute base), they likely won't scatter to the other streams.

>> No.10469837
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Towa mogging another og song in views

>> No.10469840

>>10469682
I'll genuinely call it a tie. The difference was residual and both got a great audience with even some shared between then (Hoshiyomi)

>> No.10469877

>>10469840
Anon your comprehension reps.

>> No.10469901

>>10469877
Wut, he didn't mean Noel vs. Toko?

>> No.10469916

>>10469901
OLD GUARD WITH CUNNYSIER = Current 3d Live of Mito mang, reading comprehension.

>> No.10469923

>>10469901
It's Mito vs Noel

>> No.10469922
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10469922

Koreans really like Gura.

>> No.10469929

>>10469901
Touya is a guest in Mito's live. Mito is the old guard of nijisanji.

>> No.10469948

>>10469916
>>10469923
>>10469929
Oh, I see. They are not in the same day tho, not a head to head comparison

>> No.10469952

>>10469901
Its Mito ft Kenmochi Toya

>> No.10469989

>>10469929
You mean the current guard? Nijisanji has been awful at making new stars since 2019. All of their top streamers are from the early waves.

>> No.10470017

>>10469922
More like many countries like Gura.
Her comments also consist different languages

>> No.10470035

>>10469948
It's still a comparison between 3D lives in the same week with guests, technically not the same week, but noel's one was yesterday

>> No.10470063

How good is 34k mario party collab?

>> No.10470089

>>10470063
Pretty good when you consider it's on Towa's channel with 3 high tier holos

>> No.10470116

>>10470063
Pretty good. I predicted 30k since I assumed it being on Towa's channel would be a debuff. I'd like to see it hit 40k.

>> No.10470128

>>10470063
Actually pretty good for Mario party

>> No.10470141

>>10470063
It's fine, more considering that it's on Towa's channel (which is going to show up less on people's recommends than if it was on Suisei or Miko's channels).
The highest Mario Party collab for Hololive has been 44k, and the highest for Niji was 60k.

>> No.10470149

>>10470063
pretty good , i was expecting 20k

>> No.10470204

>>10469989
They found a couple gems in their latest wave didn’t they?
Haven’t been up to date with them to be honest.

>> No.10470225

>>10470204
Nah, they all fell off pretty hard after a strong first month.

>> No.10470240

>>10469989
Like Ibrahim?

>> No.10470276

>>10470225
Not really that hard, but aren't old guard levels of gems though. Leos had 14k on MC yesterday and Axis/Lauren ark gets good numbers.

>> No.10470283

>>10470204
They weren't able to hold their numbers from what I can see. They're solidly mid tier from their numbers though, which is more than can be said for the last wave they put out against JP5.

>> No.10470289

>>10470116
It is 3-5 in terms of numbers for JP holos though. Plus Towa.

>> No.10470300
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Who would fucking say Nokia Snake 2021 would get this huge of a number for 21st century streamers.

>> No.10470316

>>10470225
I think only Lain reclined so hard, the others are still fine. I think the red haired guy just got tons of superchat last month.
>>10470283
Chigusa....Hisui.....

>> No.10470336

>>10470300
Pretty much everyone with a brain? it's a good viewers participation game.

>> No.10470352

>>10470300
That has been a buff game for a while.
Where have you been?

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>>10470300
Even stream at weird hour got a good number.

>> No.10470385

>>10470336
>>10470352
I know that in hindsight it is a buff game but I wonder who was the first that thought
>well, I think I'll just left turn a snake and see if people like it

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>>10469989
They had a star in the making debut in 2020 who broke the record for the fastest to 100k subs and was doing very well but then, yeah....

>> No.10470510

>>10470385
Fair, but most games are made without streaming potential in mind. At least up until recently.

>> No.10470545

Thanks to Youtube 40k is impossible now.

>> No.10470584
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10470584

Moona, like Choco and Suisei, is two streamers in one.

There is Moona, the game streamer. Other than the eventual Minecraft arc she's not that much above her peers.
Then there is Moona, the karaoke singer, getting three times her usual numbers.

(Like Choco with ASMR and Suisei with singing)

>> No.10470604

>>10470385
I wonder which Holo played it first?
I know Kiara first streamed it last year, with this being the earliest stream I can find of hers on Holostats.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/TeXR_rsik-w

>> No.10470609

Susan can't believe Towa is getting 35k. Almost killed the stream.

>> No.10470624

>>10470446
Pure menhera energy. It was a ticking time bomb.
Her roommate picked a fight with Noel’s too (she used Noel’s ASMR format and then turned around and accused Noel of stealing her format).

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10470639

Fuck you susan

>> No.10470648
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>Ongoing streams plus opening numbers for the midtier Holos collab

>> No.10470675

>>10470648
Knockout City looks like the debuffiest of games so this is probably gonna be mediocre.

>> No.10470720

>>10470675
>mediocre
I say it will have around median numbers for most of the streamers in the collab, which is not that high

>> No.10470737

>>10470300
https://playboard.co/en/video/X0CzAlBbNXI

>> No.10470748

>>10470720
Yeah. Collab is probably a buff but it will pool around the higher tier holos/whoever is good at the game, and the game looks questionable which brings it back down.

>> No.10470797

Anyoine have the deets on her and her agency?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TI5xyqjKcs
10k seems really good.

>> No.10470813

>>10470737
I caught that stream, but He-Ayame is no example. He could open a stream, do nothing but (let's say) tap his fingers in the table, talk with the audience and get 33k

>> No.10470815

>>10470797
Can you stop bringing chink filth here?

>> No.10470874

>>10470797
From what I could get online she's from Taiwan and known for being a great singer.

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A little over 1 hour in, seems to have peaked already

>> No.10471013

>>10470934
FIRE IN THE HOLE

>> No.10471053

>>10470813
That isn't nothing, that requires more thinking than sitting there playing the 500th episode of Minecraft.

>> No.10471066

https://twitter.com/DoKomi/status/1442459285573799939
Looks like Mori got invited to a convention to do a concert (Digikomi x Amazon online)

>> No.10471071

>>10470934
Thats gonna be a yikes from me dawg

>> No.10471125

>>10471066
That is the german convention that Kiara was in.
Cool but weird I guess. I guess they liked Kiara enough that they decided to invite HoloEN again.

>> No.10471140

What happened to Fauna sub growth? Rat is catching up to her this week having 4k+ subs
>Is it because of her game choices?

>> No.10471189

>>10471140
Fauna missing a lot Minecraft interaction while rrat and kronii is the center of it

>> No.10471194

>>10471140
The main problem of Fauna is lack of characteristic.

>> No.10471213

>>10471140
It's the other way around, RatGirl picked up speed due to the choice of slots (JP slots)

>> No.10471276

>>10471140
Bae collabed with gura + kronii (in minecraft) a few times already, fauna didnt.

>> No.10471281

>>10471189
Yea. Being host of the impromptu collab between Gura, Kronii, and also being present in the other interactions that have been going on has put the spotlight on her, bringing her profile up.
Meanwhile, Fauna hasn't been present for these things beyond being around in chat, mostly because the hours are likely very poor for her (these are happening late EST times)

>> No.10471340
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10471340

>That anon bragging about Veibae 10k USD donation
>It ended up being the oldest scam in the books (donate, refund, streamer gets saddled with the refunding fee and get their account locked)

How the fuck a streamer in the year of Our Lord of two thousand and twenty one doesn't immediately recognize this scam?

>> No.10471355

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX6brfXzSXE
30k+, maybe 35k+

>> No.10471382

>>10471189
Personally i think shes entertaining but her game choices is pretty ass. Meanwhile the rrat has been doing MC + impromptu collab helps her.

>> No.10471409

>>10471340
You're two days late my friend, the communal mocking session is done and over with.
Also it doesn't work for Holos so

>> No.10471412

>>10471355
This CHEEKY ONI.
>>10471340
Perhaps she did, but she wasn't able to move fast enough and the scammer, since they 'reported' it as soon as they did it, got priority and Paypal is notorious in fucking people over once they've refunded shit.

>> No.10471431

>>10471355
Wew that was fucking surprising seeing Ayame today. Good thing it was long after moona karaoke.

Moona is also getting 8.3k for an ID member

>> No.10471436

>>10471213
Well just waiting for fauna new schedule to be up and find something interesting happening that might boost her, kind of curious what makes Mumei stand out more even though she's doing least streams

>> No.10471439

>>10471355
High SC,18k viewership

>> No.10471475

>>10471436
Mumei doing her minecraft reps off stream and she's cute

Fauna needs to get better games to play honestly. Dota is free to stream too.

>> No.10471505

>>10471355
Too high, but definitely 15k+ and maybe 20k.

>> No.10471506

>>10471281
>these
Yeah, Fauna's viewership has been pretty solid and she did great on her membership opening. However, she does feel a bit disconnected from the rest of Council.

>> No.10471563

>>10471431
>Moona is also getting 8.3k for an ID member
Karaoke is her own personal buff

>> No.10471601

>>10471563
Moona has been doing her reps, and also finally got proper Karaoke set up so she didn't have to do acapella (which she wasn't as good at).
It's paid off for her numberswise, pulling numbers that pretty much make the rest of every other ID chubba look like ants.

>> No.10471612

>>10471355
leaning on 25k. I haven't seen Ayame generic karaoke get that much numbers.
And they shouldn't be too starved of Ayame, she was in a collab and a concert yesterday.

>> No.10471622

>>10471276
>>10471281
Plus her Karaoke did pretty well. She's a decent singer and has a vocal wide range like Risu.

>> No.10471626

It's so weird seeing an HoloID outnumber someone from HoloEN

>> No.10471639

So why is Watame getting more viewers than Fbk on todays collab? I would expect the contrary

>> No.10471662
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>>10471612
Yeah I'm mistaken her number with Suisei. Ayame's highest karaoke is probably this one.

>> No.10471697

>>10471601
Exactly, even if Ollie gets most views on average, only Moona can pull 8K on a solo stream

>> No.10471699

>>10471639
I'm guessing the hype building up for Watame's 1st sololive coming on October and the recent original song releases has had a significant effect on her popularity

>> No.10471717

>>10471626
I mean when your choices are a good singer singing English songs vs bayonetta, it’s a pretty obvious choice.

>> No.10471743

>>10470035
It's sunday vs monday jp time anon, even if it's small it'll still affect number

>> No.10471783

>>10471436
Well on Kronii's schedule, she's finally gonna collab with Fauna, though for some reason she didn't state what game they are playing in her schedule despite having listed every collab game before. Makes me think its Dota 2 and they are hiding the game so they are less likely to be stream sniped.

>> No.10471800

>>10471743
Anon, it's still on primetime 9pm JST. Who even works at that time?

>> No.10471821
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>>10471783
Kek

>> No.10471826

>>10471800
Nips with bosses who don’t want to go home.

>> No.10471865

youtube giving preferential treatment to nijis again. but it's toko so i don't mind though
https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1442474681655758849

>> No.10471907

>>10471865
They’re simply trying to give the girls in mansanji a chance.

>> No.10471941

>>10471865
I wouldn't say preferencial treatment as much as trying to boost 2views. Please Suisei, convince her to pull a Luna and join Hololive. She deserves better.

>> No.10471964

>>10471941
Only if she gets to keep her model.
Wouldn’t want another IRyS situation would you?

>> No.10471967

>>10471941
With her contents it's better for Toko to stay with Niji than Holo.

>> No.10471970

>>10471639
She's surprisingly good at the game

>> No.10471980

>Moona at 9K
amazing

>> No.10472016

>>10471967
What contents? She's a singer, not an apex player or a collab person. She'll do well in Holos regardless.

>> No.10472032

>>10471967
look at today superchat, it's like they hate her simply because shes not part of manjisanji despite pulling highest CCV

>> No.10472153

>>10471865
What kind of exposure from YTJP does anyway, they're a midget when compared to Gura or FBK's number of followers. Any mention of nijisanji would just get boosted by topics anyway and they'll get a flood of likes an retweets from it.

>> No.10472234

>>10471967
>With her contents
Your joking right? There's no fucking way you're serious

>> No.10472285

>>10472016
She does show up on collabs, just not really on her channel. She is mostly a members content girl anyway. She's top 5 membered in the entire company.
You only want her to join Hololive because you're some kind of feminist anyway. Imagine if she didn't get to do the rock concert since all Hololive does is idol concerts. She doesn't sing Hololive type songs. She has history with Nijisanji, and tech support and merch. She can collab just fine all week with Suisex, there's no need for her to leave her company and other friends.

>> No.10472304

>>10472016
She is a zatsudan streamer who sometimes play Minecraft and Animal Crossing. Her equivalent in Hololive is Sora. Holofans will call her boring.

>> No.10472353

>>10472304
>holofans
Nigger, you did

>> No.10472355

>>10472153
it's not exposure, but it's clear that youtube paid more attention to nijisanji than hololive in terms of events and possibly gave more support to them seeing that they put spotlight on toko even though that day noel has more viewers and youtube could have also congratulated her on her 2nd anniversary.

>> No.10472389
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>reads superchat
>makes nearly 3m yen

Was Nene always this big on supers or did I miss something

>> No.10472638

>>10471980
>Moona karaoke on JP prime time, competing against popular holos on a monday
>9.1k
>Kiara karaoke, on her own timeslot, competing against no-one, on Sunday
>8k

The eggs are growing...

>> No.10472701

>>10472032
She got highest CCV due to Hololive fans watching her because of her connection to Suisei. The superchats though, yikes, that is some of the biggest proof of Manjisanji yet. Toko was the best performer by far yet she got a pittance compared to Fuwa and the other dude who both sounded like dog shit.

>> No.10472735

>>10472355
Maybe if Cover fucking asked? Anycolor is willing to go shill their people anywhere. But then you'll reply with "they don't need the exposure"

>> No.10472762

>>10472389
She’s doing signings for every SC.
The old fashioned idol tactic of making money.

>> No.10472769

>>10472389
She's flexing her idol muscles on everyone.

>> No.10472871

>>10472389
>Nene and IRyS were hanging out the other day
>No singing collab stream
Pain.....that would have been kino

>> No.10472887

>>10472389
>>10472762
Sasuga SUPER HYPER etc etc Nenechi. Truly putting her Idol experience to use.
>>10472638
Chicken.
Voice.
No other words need to be said as to why her viewership for such a thing is gonna be fucked. Even if she sang songs without it, it's so utterly ingrained in the minds of anyone that has watched her that well...
It'd take a Suisei-like situation for her to turn around that expectation.

>> No.10472971

>>10472638
More like the Moon's singing is growing

>> No.10472976
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>>10472285
>all Hololive does is idol concerts
when will schizos who dont watch shit stop talking out of their own asses?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjhOZn1vNW4
>inb4 I-I didnt actually mean (...)

>> No.10473043

>>10472735
don't put words in my mouth, faggots who said that are coping or shitposting. Hololive really need some good exposure after every company that has a chink connection blacklisted them.

>> No.10473107

>>10472735
>Maybe if Cover fucking asked? Anycolor is willing to go shill their people anywhere. But then you'll reply with "they don't need the exposure"
It's different. Anycolor is a professional company for much longer than Cover, it is no surprise that they have more business acumen.

Cover LUCKED THE FUCK OUT on growing to the size they did, given their original business model of
>giving some girls their proprietary software, letting them do whatever and using them as the company's mascot / evangelists

There is an universe where Miko never said nigger, Azur Lane never looked at their general direction, .LIVE never had their own streamer to take them down with rrats and Cover today is selling a slightly inferior version of a Live2D software to any company that wants it.

Again: it is a miracle Hololive is even competing with Nijisanji, against all odds and against all sensible forecasting. Someday they'll get there with regards to managing an entertainment company but until them these things will continue happening (to no practical consequence given the insignificance of the whole thing in the great scheme of things)

>> No.10473121

>>10472871
IRyS said they're going to do it when they can fit it in schedules.

>> No.10473145

>>10472887
Kiara needs serious vocal training, drop the chicken voice and fix her mixer settings (she uses Ames setting which were configured for a softer voice).
Considering what she has said in the past, she might have had a bad experience with a voice coach which is why she claims that they’re not worth it.

>> No.10473193

>>10473107
>if Cover fucking asked
they dont ask for it anon, they have to pay for it.

>> No.10473219

>>10472976
Towa did her best with this and I was really impressed she made it happen, she postponed here anniversary stream for months because she wanted live music but I wish she had nijis 3d tech and models for her band.

>> No.10473255

>>10473107
Sounds like cope considering the fat stacks of cash Cover is sitting on plus the fact that their talents outperform in CCV and SC, it has been way too long since their incline from all the memes and yet they can't ask Youtubekun for a shoutout because they're a le small indie company?

>> No.10473256

what was the peak for mito's 3d?

>> No.10473262

>>10472285
>feminist on 4ch
Toko almost never interact with niji males and almost all her streams are only zatsudan, minecraft (only when collabing with sanbaka), animal crossing and karaokes. She will fit in Hololive nicely.
Even her songs and covers are in similar style to suisei.

>> No.10473270

>>10472285
>She doesn't sing Hololive type songs
So you never even watched a single karaoke, nice keep going retard.

>> No.10473385

>>10472638
Moona in JP prime time is not a debuff for her since NA viewers don't watch her.
And for some reasons, Moona received more ARS than $ (most her SCs are from Asia anyway)

>> No.10473421

>>10473256
Here
>>10470934
Just under 40k.

>> No.10473520

Noel’s new song already has more views than Watame’s last two songs.

>> No.10473579

>>10473219
>models
Towa's model mogs all nijisanji has ever built nigger anon

>> No.10473645

>>10473262
nta but just because she fits in nicely doesn't mean she should be in hololive, how would she stand out? she's going to be directly competing with the likes of pekora and suisei for the same audience. having some holo-like streamer in nijisanji is fine just like how towa, roboco and the other apex autists are fine being in holo just so that holo has at least a few representatives on the apex community

>> No.10473699

>>10473520
Very justified considering she just destroy one of best niji singer yesterday

>> No.10473718

Why doesn't anyone talk about Ina and Calli's collab number? It's getting 13k right now.

>> No.10473725

>>10473579
The band model anon. Kuroko is way better than chibi faceless ghost.

>> No.10473752

>>10473579
Reading comprehension anon.
Towa’s bandmates just had generic white humanoid figures.

>> No.10473797

>>10473645
Just simply being near Suisei giving her this much exposure on niji, now with both Suisei and her on same agency, Suisei calli tier whenever they released a music and MiComet tier of stream quality

>> No.10473864

>>10473718
That's just regular Ina number, what's there to talk about?

>> No.10473865

>>10473725
lmao try harder

>> No.10473875

>>10473725
Ah I see, too bad Niji has awful voices, it was hard to enjoy the live yesterday despite the glorious props anon.

>> No.10473952

>>10473193
>they dont ask for it anon, they have to pay for it.
>>10473255
>Sounds like cope considering the fat stacks of cash Cover is sitting on
You guys didn't get my point, it is not that Cover lacks money, it is that they lack
>COMPETENCE

>> No.10474040

Nijisanji is popular right? even among normies, surely they don't need exposure

>> No.10474128

>>10473952
With money, you can buy competence. Anycolor has articles on their new tech hires. Meanwhile, Cover...

>> No.10474187

>>10473952
Cover is hiring, please do something about it

>> No.10474256

>>10473952
>paying for something you already get for free is competence
nijisanji is in a vicious cycle where they need to pay for exposure to get the tourist views, and the views money they make need to go back to pay for more exposure. No wonder their profit margin was so small.

>> No.10474285

Where's the anon who said kuzuha will get better numbers if he stream in the prime time

>> No.10474284

>>10473145
If you watch her karaoke she sometimes slips out of the chicken voice and I actually think she sounds pretty darn good. She is so stubbern about that damn voice though. Use it for streaming, fine, whatever, but at least drop it for singing.

>> No.10474310

>>10473718
This game is better than what I expected, can become the Smash Bros of EN

>> No.10474360

>>10474040
And there it is.

>> No.10474361

>>10474256
This reminds me of those yt ads for NijiEN debut PV and MV? how much that does cost normally

>> No.10474363
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10474363

TRADE ALERT!
>TRADE ALERT!
TRADE ALERT!
>TRADE ALERT!
TRADE ALERT!

HERE NIJIFANS, LET'S MAKE A TRADE THAT WILL BENEFIT BOTH COMPANIES

>Hololive gets Toko, Hoshikawa, Lain from Edengumi and the choice to restrict Kuzuha from streaming in three (3) days at the choice of Hololive management
>Nijisanji gets Roberu, Matsuri, Luna (which I assume would be a tight fit with the girls in that company) and two (2) on stream visits to Hololive Minecraft server where their livers could ask exactly seven (7) questions to Moona about how the structures in that servers are made (broadcast in Moona's channel, with Nijisanji official Twitter account making a tweet advertising it)

WELL NIJI ANONS? DO WE HAVE A DEAL?
>counteroffers allowed

>> No.10474371

>>10474284
You'll get called an EGG for a comment like that anon. I agree though, that is the EASIEST thing to fix that would go a long way to helping boost her numbers without affecting her enjoyment in streaming such as changing what games she plays, but between whatever baggage she has and apparently the fact that the voice gives her confidence, it'd take a full gen1 intervention to get her to even consider changing.

>> No.10474420

>>10474187
>Cover is hiring, please do something about it
>>10474128
>With money, you can buy competence
That's the thing, isn't it? You need competence to use money well, even to buy competence!

>>10474256
Anon, money well spent pays for itself tenfold. Luck and being in the right place at the right moment can only get you so far

>> No.10474445

>>10474284
yea I noticed that too, but she just doesnt want to listen

>> No.10474447

>>10474187
>Implying Cover wants to hire Overseas engineers
The moment they do that, a lot of their work would be improved significantly. There's even better and cheaper live2d and motion tracking tech made by freelancers out there. I mean, there's a whole lot of creative people out there who would jump to work with Cover on projects.

>> No.10474456

>>10473107
>>10473952
All they're getting with this "exposure" are tourists who don't sub, don't leave likes or comments, and that just don't care beyond a random watch. If they're actually paying for this shit, i'd call that a bad investment.

>> No.10474485

>>10474420
>money well spent pays tenfold
So what happened? Sony decided to start their own VTubers

>> No.10474518

>>10474371
>You'll get called an EGG for a comment like that anon. I agree though, that is the EASIEST thing to fix that would go a long way to helping boost her numbers
Agreed and take Moona.

Her Karaoke first got to any prominence when she started singing impromptu songs she made up on her Minecraft streams
>AND HER VOICE WAS LIKE A FUCKING MERMAID
then she promptly followed with that high pitched in character laughter of hers
>WITH SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING EPILEPTIC DOLPHON

The "moe gap" between her singing voice and her character voice helped a lot in her karaoke growth. Kiara could easily benefit from the same thing

>> No.10474537

>>10474310
nah. While the game is friendly to fighting game newbies, it is definitely not as accessible as Smash.

>> No.10474639

>>10474447
>The moment they do that, a lot of their work would be improved significantly.
kek, no unless they speak Japanese. Language barrier is a bitch that debuff even the most competent professional.

The company I proudly sell my talent for tried to venture in the Middle East, all the way out from Europe. It is a top of the market company too, with local customers the size of the local governments.
IT FAILED MISERABLY because the communication mismatch more that debuffed the whole relationship: it soured it.

>> No.10474668

>>10474284
Kiara is definitely in too deep now. the chicken voice is so prominent that dropping it now will probably net a really big backlash.
Especially since that voice is grating. Compared to Suisei's other voice which is rather pleasant.

>> No.10474710

>>10474420
>money well spent pays for itself tenfold
Yeah i'm sure the money they spent for stuff like their early Chinks branch and India branch pays for itself, or that time they paid for FLOW to a near empty venue.

>> No.10474726
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10474726

>CURRENT TOP 10, UNFILTERED
Compared with yesterday, today is a day slow as a tipped over barrel of molasses

>> No.10474775

>>10474710
>>10474485
You guys are talking about failed attempts. I am talking about things that Cover could do with money that could easily have a positive outcome.

>> No.10474777

Consistent 14k for a Guilty Gear collab between two newbies is pretty good.

>> No.10474779

>>10474726
Obviously. why would you compare with yesterday directly?
It is not even that slow in general.

>> No.10474837

>>10474726
>monday is slower than sunday
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!??!

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10474862

>>10474779
>>10474837
Here is last tuesday, unfiltered. For 21k to put you in the top10 unfiltered it must be a really slow day

>> No.10474874

>>10474668
Really doubt there would be backlash. People watch her in spite of her voice.
Kiaras biggest issue has always been that she worries about the wrong thing and her stubbornness to confront the real issues.

>> No.10474940
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10474940

>O-OUJOU?!?!
MY KNEES!

>> No.10475009

>>10474862
Stop fucking including non vtubers

>> No.10475015

>>10474485
They want in on the money too even if they have to saturate the Japanese vtuber market even further and milk all its worth. Plus, they could use all the tools from niji such as their 3D tech and could promote each other.

After that, I don't know honestly. Sony could hire better dancers and singers to outperform Hololive but they wouldn't still understand what made Hololive popular in the first place. Niji and Sony can take a monopoly of Japan's vtuber industry but overseas, it's still Hololive. Cover could've done a lot of things such as partnering with Valve with their VR tech or with microsoft. They're just pretty incompetent in this kind of stuffs, and doesn't have the backing of a large company behind them. Imagine if microsoft started supporting them.

>> No.10475139

>>10475009
That's just to give a perspective.

>> No.10475141

>>10475015
For all we know, they could just give Ado a vtuber model and Suisei's throne would be overtaken.

>> No.10475156

>>10473107
>>10474775
>muh luck
Anycolor had far more money than Cover and they literally squandered it, if anything they are a prime example of incompetence for failing so hard that they let a small company of broke and garbage VR developers become what they are now, and if you think that was all luck, you're even more retarded than Anycolor's management.

>> No.10475179

>>10474668
do it like Suisei, tell the fans her throat will literally die if she keeps it up

>> No.10475226

>>10475156
>and if you think that was all luck
It was most definitely not competence and even if Anycolor was incompetent that doesn't make Cover 2019 and 2020 competent.

They found their stride after the chinkout and after HoloMyth tho, but that doesn't make their former selves competent by any measure

>> No.10475280

>>10474775
Nah, I'm just laughing at the idea that there is some magical competence that Anycolor has over Cover in terms of spending money, when in fact both companies are kinda shit and are carried by the product they are selling :vtubers

>> No.10475301

>>10475179
She would rather kill her throat than drop the chicken voice.
Just look at the myriad of other health issues she has when chat has been screaming at her to visit a doctor for the past year.

>> No.10475348

Dont you people get it?
when Nijisanji does something right is competence
when Hololive does something right it is pure luck

>> No.10475476

>>10475156
Their incompetence was underestimating overseas pandering. They focused making themselves look big in Japan only and their livers doesn't seem to want to give a bone to EOPs. Those who do would be be shunned by their viewers e.g Utako. It's Coco, or Artia if you want to include her that made overseas expansion happen.

>> No.10475601

Still incompetent.

>> No.10475603

Seems like it's another holowin today

Pekora
Mito
Towa
Ayame
Kuzuha
Gura
Ibrahim

>> No.10475633

>>10472032
>>10472701
The low sc is easily explained; she recently had an outfit reveal where her fans splurged a lot of money, got $27k for it, while Fuwa and Hayato didn't have any big splurges in comparison: https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCXRlIK3Cw_TJIQC5kSJJQMg/videos
She makes a good amount of sc per video but isn't very high on the ranking because she streams little. Still above a lot of holos like Ame, Ina, Sora, etc.

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10475681

>>10475476
The impact Artia (and reddit as a whole) had is greatly overstated.
For better or for worse clippers, with "Hololive Moments" in the forefront, were the greatest engines on Hololive western growth.

Joke is on them, other clippers (Sushi among them) more than picked up the slack and thrived on the vacuum they left.

>> No.10475748
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30k for Ayame.

>> No.10475861

>>10475748
I kneel

>> No.10475929
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>>10475681
Funny thing about Sushi?
>he started as a Niji clipper
then he got snagged by the Niji/Holo collabs, then he was lost into the rabbit hole

>> No.10475991

>>10475929
>snagged by the Niji/Holo collabs
This screenshot seems to show that he got snagged by the duck.

>> No.10476155

>>10475991
He and vtuber tengoku led to the incline of Subaru too

>> No.10476190

>>10470300
visually interesting graph though

>> No.10476265

>>10475139
That doesn't give perspective at all. We shouldn't even be including male vtubers if we're being real about perspective.

>> No.10476287

>>10476155
If only all clippers are like those 2, instead we got soda and his ilk representing the clippers community.

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>>10475991
>by the duck.
And Matsuri too. Their cross company collabs greatly helped to introduce the Niji audience to Hololive.
>then time passed
Here is the last clip he made of NIjisanji
>Nijisanji】Lulu sways her head side to side while blowing a kiss 【Suzuhara Lulu】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa52tP7ejOY

This seemingly random fact alone pretty much explains everything with regards to both Nijisanji expansion to the western audience (or lack thereof)

>> No.10476352

>>10476155
Was amusing back in the day how they would basically compete who could get the Subaru clips out the fastest.

>> No.10476386

>>10476287
EN clippers are just THE LOWEST caliber of clippers there is.
I guess it has something to do with the principle of it. Translation isn't easy and requires a decent amount of effort. Clipping is not as hard.
I am more annoyed by the lack of fucking respect in most EN clippers. The hentai thumbnails are fucking disgusting, and the misrepresentation in clickbait even more so.

>> No.10476419

>>10475156
You can make mistakes as a company but you gotta be dumb to say that Cover is more competent than Nijisanji as a whole in a business sense.

>> No.10476562

>>10476386
I don't like rizulix or soda all that much. I've blocked otakmori though.

If anything, I just want them to follow Soju's steps since his clips consists of only rushia. Other than that, bigzim/kowkarot is a good meme clipper, vtuber tengoku and sushi are good examples of translator channels.

>> No.10476577

>>10476155
>He and vtuber tengoku led to the incline of Subaru too
It was a mutually reinforced growth

>they both clipped Subaru
>she acknowledged them by name when she "ranted" about *DUCK NOISES* being added as the characterization of her reactions
>they clipped her acknowledging them (and, by extent, the kaigai community)

Classic case of virtuous cycle

>> No.10476693

>>10476562
Yeah I have a few favorites myself. Vaan and Kowkarot over on the en side and that is about it.
I prefer watching translated clips of HoloEN because atleast it is a tl and represents some effort.
Also it gives me insight on overseas numbers.

>> No.10476710

>>10476562
>I don't like rizulix or soda all that much. I've blocked otakmori though.
That's dumb, all of it. Three things
1) disregard context, if the clip is good and there is no glaring error in translation it doesn't matter who clipped it
2) if you are watching drama clips you're part of the problem, no matter if "well translated" or botched, nothing good ever comes from giving that attention
3) learn fucking japanese, at very least the basics, so you can judge the clip based on what you could gather instead of "community reputation of clippers"

>> No.10476763

>>10476562
>Soju'
I used to like this guy but nowadays his clips of Rushia are just like him meshing together random parts from a stream to make Rushia say something weird.

>> No.10476786

>>10476419
And who decided that? by what metrics, Revenue? Profits? Annual Growth? What may be a good business decision for one may be bad for another considering both fanbase have become very different.

>> No.10476841

So I finally have the time to take a look at numbers after waking up. It seems that Petra gained 503 Members during her Membership opening earlier, with a total of 548 Members seen by the end of the stream.
While her number might be a bit lower than her fellow NijiENs or HoloENs, given her normal CCVs and views, the ratio seems pretty high. Is the penguin building a really devoted group of follower?

>> No.10476920

>>10476841
Judging by how AnyaPetra thread is surprisingly not a schizos thread, I can say yes.

>> No.10477259

>>10476786
NTA but Cover did so many mistakes in 2020 before the chinkout it is not even funny.
Forget about saying either company iks more competent than the other, you are correct that "competence" in this case is different because of the differences between the companies.

But when you measure **incompetence** Cover beats Nijisanji hands down, with the consequences coming crashing down on them in June, July, August and September 2020.

Any other company would have died a thousand deaths but Cover is protected by the same GOD gives Ayame her numbers (likely to ensure she continues shining) so they survived.
Had Capcom dealt the third strike on Mio (because Cover refused or was incapable to of even engaging in talks with those companies with regards to the blatant and deliberate infringement of their intellectual property) and Nintendo follow through with their lawsuit Cover would be as good as dead in July 2020 through their own fault

Also thank Lord Tanigo is a funny boy and very resistant to the lines of pure Wasabi he and the CEOs of those companies sniffed out in the hostess bars out of the bellybuttons of hostesses looking suspiciously like grown up Towas because it took that much chart to smooth things out

>> No.10477341

>>10477259
go back

>> No.10477405

>>10477259
Cover being a small indie company is not a meme, they can't handle the explosive growth. I really wish they catch up to niji as soon as possible, at least from the tech side.

>> No.10477510

>>10477259
The same issue also happens to Anycolor during their explosive growth in 2019 if only in smaller scales, Panda leave because of nintendo permission and etc, in the end the damages was reversed with panda coming back and Capcom sponsoring hololive, there is no wishy-washy god luck in that, they want money and they get it.

>> No.10477519

>>10477259
So Nijisanji is still incompetent, you are unable to accept that fact, and proceeded to whoever you think is worse. Sounds like copium.

>> No.10477542

>>10476419
>>10477259
In what fucking world is a company like anycolor that wasted all the huge advantages they had consired a company with "competent business sense", while a company that went from broke to anycolor's level in 2 years without a big company like Sony investing so much in them is considered worse?
This might actually be the biggest nijicope i'm reading in these threads so far, and i've read some really massive nijicopes before.

>> No.10477652

>>10477542
Look, for as much as this board might try to convince you otherwise, Nijisanji is still an industry leader with solid brand recognition, sponsorships, and a large fanbase. They didn't explode like Hololive did but they aren't exactly scraping the bottom of the barrel, unlike actual incompetent companies like Upd8

>> No.10477811

>>10477542
This. Do people realize how small Cover actually was compared to Niji at the end of 2019? Cover was 3rd place and not profitable.... I was expecting more of "What went wrong?" but it seems there are some ardent defenders of Niji here.

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>>10477259

>> No.10477969

>>10477811
Cover was still small during Q1 of 2020, they reported what, 30 employees at the time? While Nijisanji had over 130 at the same time.

>> No.10478129

>>10477542
>In what fucking world is a company like anycolor that
>>10477519
>So Nijisanji is still incompetent
>>10477510
>The same issue also happens to Anycolor
I never even addressed Anycolor in any of what I said.
ALl I am talking about is about the one side of the story involving Hololive and the consequences of their massive managerial problems that lasted up until September 2020.

They improved too but there is absolutely no denial Cover fucked up one too many times up until they got a death sentence, an untimely governor pardon and an unbreakable parole sentence.

There is a reason they got their shit together: if they didn't they wouldn't be around anymroe

>> No.10478289

>>10476419
>>10476786
>>10477259
>>10477405
>>10477510
>>10477519
>>10477542

I think all of you are being retards to be quite honest famalam.

Cover definitely did some really dumb decisions during their explosion of popularity in 2020. That's not something anyone can deny but it's something that can at least be explained. I think so many anons here have already mentioned this multiple times but Cover being a small indie company is not a meme. Ever wonder why 70% of lottery winners end up broke within the span of a couple years? It's because they have no fucking idea what to do with a sudden burst of money. Same shit with Cover. It's not like they had a ready infrastructure to handle the influx of Eops during the pandemic. I'm also pretty sure that if they never exploded in popularity than Capcom wouldn't even bother putting a strike on them. As for Niji, they definitely are incompetent but its more with their talent management (hiring rapists and menheras like meiro). I'm pretty sure that if Niji was ever subjected to the chinkout, they'd have graduated whatever liver it was that offended the zhangs (barring Mito, Deron, and Kuzuha). One thing, they at least are competent enough on is the business side like merch.That, unfortunately doesn't trump whatever black magic cover has on their side. Being competent doesn't mean anykara is some god-tier businessmen, it just means that they fuck up less. And fucking up less doesn't mean people are suddenly gonna flock to you because you still don't have the one thing Cover has which are the girls themselves.

>> No.10478335
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* ONGOING STREAMS, 1AM JST *
Massive kneels necessary to honor both Princess Ayame and Sultan Ibrahim for their amazing performances.

Ayame at this moment is not even singing, she shifted to Zatsudan and 24k people didn't unglue their butts from their seats.

About Ibrahim: how fucking debuffing that official MinecraftJP collab must have been to keep him from getting even 12k in it?

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Choco's doing pretty good too

>> No.10478376

>>10478129
nigga your whole point is that cover wasnt as competetn as ichikara.
i a dumb tae specially with the numbers backing them up.There is now way outside specualtion to tell if anycolor would have fucked up as much as cover with the explosive growth tey got worldwide.
is a dumb statement specially given the current situation where holo is on te same floor locally and higher than them globally.

>> No.10478379

Timeloop.

>> No.10478410

>>10478129
And again it's not as big or as dramatic as you make it seems to be, and going back to the actual context of the conversation that you butt in which is Anycolor to be the most competent agency there is and the "industry leader" when its not the case because Cover has the internation market, Anycolor has the domestic market and Upd8 and others has the best technology.

>> No.10478419

>>10478363
more girls should do minecraft on this solo time slots. even aki and mel get 5k on MC on free timeslots.

>> No.10478461

>>10478410
>Anycolor has the domestic market
it seems to be divided between holo and them nowdays.

>> No.10478471

>>10478129
Then say it clearly. It takes a fairly competent company to fix their mistakes and move forward, while facing extreme competition from a huge rival company. It takes a VERYcompetent company to do all that and at the same time, tenfold their revenue and profit, within the span of a year.

>> No.10478499

>>10478419
It's not worth destroying their sleep schedule I think, only watame and korone can do it and they are kinda special in terms of fitness.

>> No.10478646

>>10472762
No I know, but this is signing old supas, not the one supa’ing during the stream.

>> No.10478651

RIP vspo numbers

>> No.10478703

>>10478471
>Then say it clearly.
>>10478410
>and going back to the actual context of the conversation that you butt in which is Anycolor to be the most competent agency
Wut? I'm too lazy to scroll up but did anyone call any vtuber company "competent" instead of merely "least incompetent"?

.LIVE fucked up and died.
upd8 fucked up and died a thousand deaths (and to think they had at one point AZKi, Shibuya Hal, Nobuhime, Haneru , Patra and Kizuna AI, what a waste!)
774 inc didn't die yet but they survive through what, Patra?

To my knowledge there is no competent and professional vtuber company before January 2020.
The Anykara got their shit partially together and then Cover followed suit (being forced by the fact they couldn't fuck up any harder without dying outright)

>> No.10478735

>>10478499
im pretty sure they can do it before jp prime time.
i recall mel MC streams being that high on that timeslot.

>> No.10478872

>>10476841
I don't know if her ratio is that much of an outlier. The other NijiENs got 2-3 times the members on their opening stream and except Selen they dont really get that much more viewers

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Pic related is the real reason hololive got popular in the West. Unfortunately, Niji didn't have a brony making cringy videos with shit artstyles of them that somehow netted millions of views. Holobrony is a very real thing.

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Nice, Moona's unarchived karaoke beated Kiara's

>> No.10479053

>>10478363
>Choco's doing pretty good too
>>10478419
>more girls should do minecraft on this solo time slots
>>10478499
>It's not worth destroying their sleep schedule I think,
KEK; Choco has no sleep schedule. Sometimes she just sleeps through the day, 27 hours straight.
Other times she streams 22 hours of APEX with a couple minutes break in between to avoid the stream going too long for Youtube to not archive it.
Then she sleeps some 4 hours and starts again for 10 more hours.

Only a healthy and sweaty dicking sessions could EVER fix her sleep schedule but there doesn't seem to have many volunteers to do that task

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>>10479015
>eekum bokum
For fuck sake, that's at most one year old. Please stop being jealous, evnious and salty about the success of others and give credit where it is due
>Miko saying nigger becoming viral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8t6A-g5hc

She was not even the first, only the one saying with more conviction and a harder R

>> No.10479267

>>10479015
No.
Eekum Bookum was published long after the HoloEN boom, and that was only a success because there were already so many EOP brought along by Coco and Haachama.
A better starting point would be Fubuki's peepapaparapo video.

>> No.10479346

people who think Miko saying the N word is why Holo got popular is deluded.

>> No.10479385

>>10479137
>2.6m vs 11m
I think the 11m figure is more relevant here.

>>10479267
>Aug 28, 2020
>after the HoloEN boom

>> No.10479412

>>10479042
Repent anon, see what you've done by posting this.

>> No.10479429

>>10479346
There were various moments but you will be hard pressed to find a point earlier than May 2019 with any Hololive member getting name recognition in the western market

Both Fubuki meme songs and Azur Lane collab were in the tail end of 2019

>> No.10479508

quick
quantity of members from each council girl

>> No.10479540
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10479540

>>10479385
>I think the 11m figure is more relevant here.
Anon, for fuck sake, Coco ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING in early 2020 was more influential in getting Hololive name in the west than Eekum Bokum.

Even this news here
> Playboard: World's Biggest Superchat Earner is Virtual YouTuber Kiryu Coco
had more impact on getting Hololive name in th e western market than Eekum Bokum, and it happened a full week earlier too.

You would have to be the dumbest freshest newfag tourist parachutting in this board, site and general vtuber community in september 2020 to believe Hololive market penetration in the west started in August 2020 instead of just increasing massively

>> No.10479575

>>10479137
>She was not even the first, only the one saying with more conviction and a harder R
t. ESL
There's no R in Miko's nigga moment; that sound she makes is simply vibrato from her singing out the word just like Lamar. Just the sheer absurdity of her being a clueless Japanese girl uttering the worst racial slur in recent history with whimsical emotion was the height of comedy when it was making the rounds.

Had it been a white guy, he'd be BTFO'd off of the Internet several times already.

>> No.10479659

>>10479540
Coco was not that popular with EOPs despite her English skills. The brony video was literally what shot up Korone to being the number one subbed holo at the time.

>> No.10479662

>>10479575
>There's no R in Mi-
It was a fucking joke, damn "ACSHUALLY" Comic Book Guy.

>> No.10479672

>>10479346
It was the Azurlane collab and by that /vg/ by extension /v/ discover vtuber, at least here in 4chan.

>> No.10479675

>>10478289
>fanfic fanfic fanfic
Always with you holofags

>> No.10479677

>>10479540
Yeah, and what's funny about that article and all the infographic that comes from the biggest supachat earner is that her monetization stream is full of comments flabbergasted by the amount she get, and all those randos are coming because of her.

>> No.10479683

>>10479662
>It was a fucking joke
Yes, just like you. Now leave.

>> No.10479699

>>10477652
> Nijisanji is still an industry leader
Nijisanji used to be the sole leader, but it has to share the seat with Hololive now.
Depending on which metric you use, either company can top over the other.

>> No.10480032
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>>10479659
Anon, if you are going be a retard and just say shit you make up at very least fake some numbers or something.

Here is the sub counts for Korone and Fubuki.
Korone was gaining on Fubuki WAY WAY before August 2020 (April 2020) and her intercept path with Fubuki barely changed when Eekum Bokum was released.

Don't let your jealousy and envy of the success of others to cloud your memory and your judgement, give credit where credit is due and KNEEL once in a while to the ones achieving great things

>> No.10480173

>>10480032
There's a massive incline after Aug 28 and it is what made her surpass Fubuki. Who are you trying to fool? Before that, hololive was riding on the backs of chinks. Fubuki had the most subs because she also had a ton on bilibili.

>> No.10480714

>>10480173
dude that's only for Korone. The meme didn't do much for Hololive as a whole.
When did you start watching Hololive?

>> No.10480966
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The moment VSPO gained traction, nijisanji re-activated its anti brigade once again. It's always this time of the year huh

>> No.10481162

>>10480966
Remember they are called nijiniggers for a reason

>> No.10481192

>>10480966
>Matome
Do you expect me to reply to you seriously?

>> No.10481240
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10481240

>>10480173
Anon, whatever caused Korone to separate from the pack happened WAY WAY before Eekum Bokum.

Here is the same chart, except with Marine, Aqua and Coco too, and including only 2020 up until September

1) Korone separate herself from the pack in April and zoomed past the other girls (except Fubuki, for a while) way back in April. She erased about 3/4 of her disavantage from Fubuki between late April and late September, Eekum Bokum was just the final push of an incline that was already hapenning for more than half a year

>Before that, hololive was riding on the b-
The stench of salt and jealousy is too much anon, please take a bubble bath to erase it.
No need for bath salts, you already have enough seeping from your body

>> No.10481263

>>10481162
go back to your discord

>> No.10481276

>>10480714
>>10480032
People kinda forget the Korone was already the most popular Hololive member with EoPs since April 2020

...also, that there were about 5 million search results for "korone" when people misspelled "corona"

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2019-08-27%202021-09-27&q=korone

>> No.10481290

>>10481240
Holy shit anon, can you take the hint that he is not looking for actual discussion but are here to fish you?

>> No.10481294

>>10481240
No him but are you fucking joking that horrendous meme was being reuploaded which served as a bother factor for her explosive growth.

Denying it makes you look retarded and I’m glad that it died down because there was a gigantic influx of retards in korones chat

>> No.10481365

>>10481294
>Denying it
I am not denying it was big, I am denying the claim from that anon that it "was literally what shot up Korone to being the number one subbed holo at the time" (>>10479659) and that "it is the real reason hololive got popular in the West" (>>10479015).

It is a stupid assertion, anyone saying it is retarded and anyone agreeing with it is retarded

>> No.10481383

>>10480966
Pandering to APEX autists/compfags has consequences. Just look at Chihiro, Aqua, this girl, etc. Doesn't matter what company they're in and it has nothing to do with Nijisanji fans.

>> No.10481400

>>10481276
>when people misspelled "corona"
Actually "corona" translates as "korone" in some languages, like French."couronne"

>> No.10481431
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10481431

Not today Mori.

>> No.10481433

>>10480966
Why the fuck are you mentioning Nijisanji? Someone matched with her and Crazy Raccoon who were smurfing in Valorant. It's FPSfags.

>> No.10481482

>>10481433
Holobronies need a boogeyman to live rent free in their head.

>> No.10481490
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10481490

>>10481431

>> No.10481636
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10481636

** FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN **

Here it goes
>55,941: Pekora (Hololive)
>39,447: Mito (Nijisanji)
>35,509: Towa (Hololive)
>31,375: Ayame (Hololive)
>25,168: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,876: Gura (Hololive)
>21,760: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>16,542: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>15,495: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>15,194: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>15,098: Reid (Indie)
>14,837: Gura (Hololive)
>14,734: Gachaman (Indie)
>14,275: Ina (Hololive)
>14,031: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,154: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,907: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>12,487: Mio (Hololive)
>12,377: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>11,249: Noah (VSPO)
>11,186: Ange Katrina (Nijisanji)
>10,193: Watame (Hololive)
>10,072: Mio (Hololive)

Very good day for indies and smaller companies with 3 indies and 2 non major companies making to the list, including VSPO for the what, third day straight?

>> No.10481672

>>10481240
>>10481365
>I am denying the claim from that anon that it "was literally what shot up Korone to being the number one subbed holo at the time"
You are wrong because it was. You're literally presenting a graph that shows the exact thing of what I'm talking about. Like it or not that brony is a big reason why hololive got popular in the West and why holoEN happened.

>> No.10481729

>>10481482
They don't even know that Anycolor forced vtuber matome to take down most Nijisanji stuff so it's purely overrun by Hololive posters anyway.

>> No.10481744

>>10481672
>that brony is a big reason why hololive got popular in the West
not that anon but no it wasn't.
when did you start watching Hololive.

>> No.10481770

>>10481672
>You're literally presenting a graph that shows the exact thing of what I'm talking about.
Korone growing and cutting her difference from Fubuki from all the way back in April 2020? How can an even hapenning in August cause a steep incline in April?

>> No.10481845
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Korone's boom was right at the height of the Covid pandemic in early 2020 (although you could argue that she and a few others, like Pekora and Marine, were already really high before the lockdowns started, which I think it was in like march or april)

>> No.10481867
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Two hours in superchat reading, Ayame still holds 10k. One of the smoothest curves between finishing the main content and SC reading

>> No.10481876

>>10481744
Two main things that made hololive popular in the West:
>bilibili chinks clipping them en masse such as hololive moments
>those brony videos, eekum bokum is just one of the many, the others also have a shitton of views

>> No.10481888

>>10479015
Towa totally ignored that last video with her in it, didn't even give this person's various high engagement Towarts a like or retweet on twitter. Based publicity/advertising retard.

>> No.10481966

>>10481888
I think she briefly mentioned, but yeah too little

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>>10481876
>the main thing was Eekum Bokum
>the two main things were chinks and Eekum Bokum
>the three main things were chinks, Eekum bokum and those brony videos
>the four main things were...
TOP KEK

>*SNAP*
>YEP. THIS ONE'S GOING IN MY CRINGE COMPILATION.

>> No.10482278

>>10481888
She didn't even mention her cover releasing today during the mario party collab when she got everyone else to plug their things. She's not as bad as polka but sometimes I shake my head at her.

>> No.10482320
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im calling it: possibly mumei's lowest numbers for a regular stream. (unless other en members decide to show up and save it)

>> No.10482440

>>10482320
Is there a buff for members of the Holobirds unit?

>> No.10482495

>>10482440
yes, as long as kiara is not present

>> No.10482526

>>10482440
There might be but it's not stronger than the Kiara debuff field. No matter how cute Mumei is she is not overcoming Kiara debuff field I think.

>> No.10482590

>>10482495
>>10482526
Get on with times old men, she is not as bad as she used to be in collabs. I think...

>> No.10482608

>>10482440
Yeah, it's called being Subaru.

>> No.10482695

>>10482590
shes good with other extrovert collab partners. With introversts she still pushes too hard and comes off as way too annoying.

>> No.10482715
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10482715

>STATE OF THE TUTORIAL BATTLE

- ClockGirl is way past the final tutorial boss and even took the first real player on a real PvP battle.
- OwlGirl is long past the tutorial too, but has a long way to get her first PvP
- GreenLamy JUST beat the tutorial. Omedetou!
- RatGirl will likely clear it this week too, or next week at most

Then there is Sana, still recovering from getting hit by a -10 cursed sword which docks half her MP growth for God knows how many turns.
She'll clear the remaining trash mob in the next week or so, and the secret literal boss in about two weeks.

>> No.10482799

>>10482590
With someone like Mumei she will absolutely annoying. The way Fauna was with Mumei is how it should go but I'm pretty sure Kiara is just gonna overdo it.

>> No.10482984

>>10482590
It's the stupid voice, it's like anything she says is absolutely annoying

>> No.10483056

>>10482590
Not as bad, maybe, but too little too late. I got filtered and I don't care anymore to give her a try, especially since there are more vtubers to keep track of. Trying to reverse that image is gonna be a fight for the bird.

>> No.10483105
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>anons will hate her because she's cute and an overachiever
She forgives you

>> No.10483219

>>10482695
>>10482799
>>10482984
>>10483056
Oh well, the point is to make it bearable for owl fans to watch and not for us. That said I will give safe estimate 10k each, maybe 12k for owl.

>> No.10483277

>>10483219
Hmmm I hope the hoomans will enjoy this one.
I'd say 14k for Mumei, 6k for Kiara.
Not that confident with these predictions, but might as well throw some numbers out.

>> No.10483281

>>10482320
Kiara is gonna debuff this collab so hard I dont even.

I mean for example her being in Mumei's stream is the sole reason I aint gonna watch it.

>> No.10483662
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Luna racking up good numbers playing Piko Park.

It is also a cute game that suits her personality well.

>> No.10483910
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10483910

>>10481431
>>10481490
>9/30
Your day is numbered, bunny girl.

>> No.10483979

Kuzuha will win tomorrow since he has a "major announcement" People are saying it's an album or a PC.

>> No.10484070

>>10483979
Tomorrow (today for JP) is Kuzuha day (9 2 8 in Japanese can be read as kuzuha)
The PC thing was a joke he was making about his Shroud merch, and he already released his song at 12am.

>> No.10484106

>>10484070
naruhodo but he said he has a major announcement anyway so I think he'll get 50-60k maybe.
People think it's a PC because he told people to save there money and use it for today (28th) instead of his outfit stream or whatever the fuck he did a couple of days ago.

>> No.10484132

>>10484070
What do you mean he already released it? Why isn't anybody talking about it here?
Non yt numbers are still numbers.
https://linkco.re/dghP69PC?lang=en

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>>10484132
Topic channel has this much so far. Did he talk about any official release on his channel? MV?

>> No.10484237

>>10484132
Because it's not relevant? It's on YT topic but otherwise you can't see amazon music/itunes/spotify numbers or at least I don't have a spotify account so I can't see that.

>> No.10484280

>>10484237
You can definitely numberfag itunes top charts at least.
That said, I don't even know why I'm so pressed lol. I'll let someone that actually cares about Kuzuha to do the research for me.

>> No.10484562

>>10484280
Would you look at that, it's top selling at the moment.
https://kworb.net/charts/itunes/jp.html

>> No.10484613
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10484613

>>10484562
Here is my kneel in advance, there is a reason he's wearing that crown
> M-MY LIEGE!

>> No.10484714
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10484714

Here is today's EN schedule so far.

>> No.10484737
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10484737

>>10484714
Sana is having that slot all to herself
>which is a buff
and will play deltarune
>clearly not a buff

>> No.10484852

>>10483105
>overachiever
haha...

>> No.10484879

>>10484852
She achieves a whole lot more than what she attempts, how is that not being an overachiever?

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>>10484613
hes beating BTS

>> No.10485536

>>10485289
Eh, I doubt it'll last long. Nothing beats KPop retardation.

>> No.10485652

>>10485536
definitely not, but it's funny, that BTS song came out only 3 days ago yet le funny apex vampire beat them

>> No.10485654
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10485654

>>10485536
SHUT UP AND GIVE HIM YOUR ENERGY!
>TAKE MY ENERGY KING
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>10482715
>Then there is Sana, still recovering from getting hit (...)
impressive for her to almost beat all nijiEN in wounded state

>> No.10485870

>>10482320
Be strong hoomans, your oshi will get screeched to the ground.. that said considering how strong kiara debuff field is estimating 8k mumei 5k kiara

>> No.10485918
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10485918

>>10484562
>>10485289
only in the small island of Japanistan
https://kworb.net/ww/

>> No.10486023
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>>10485918
What the fuck, ABBA made new music?? Also, I can't even open his song in iTunes, is it region locked?

>> No.10486054
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10486054

>>10485654
Aight you fucking Nijiniggers. As much as I don't like you homos, I despise the KPop trannies even more so here! TAKE MY FUCKING ENERGY!

>> No.10486107

>>10485813
you literally have to rip her heart out for nijiEN to have a chance

>> No.10486435
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10486435

Still in the start, let's see if the debuff field affects her numbers

>> No.10486558
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10486558

>>10486435
>still can't get past 10k
aaa I can't take this anymore, need to summon the kino, number and content bringer on holoEN Minecraft

>> No.10486644

10k for mumei, questions is if Kiara can do it too

>> No.10486861

>>10486644
I'd be very surprised

>> No.10487120

>>10486644
Unless you think burgers coming home from school are going to decide they really need to watch Kiara, I doubt it.

>> No.10487724
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>>10487120
Yeah, this stumps me. What the hell did Kiara do to filter the audience this hard.

Look at the chart shape:
>Mumei continues inclining along the stream as more people get home / time zone advances 5PM westward
>Kiara picks her whole audience from the get go and immediately peaks and stalls

That seems to imply Kiara audience is whoever deliberately seeks her streams, from the start, and schedule around watching it.
Maybe the weeks she spent either shadowbanned or restricted shaped ver audience like that. It can’t be only the voice

>> No.10487885

>>10487724
Kiara's MC is running at like 20fps

>> No.10488043
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10488043

>SUSAN’D!

>> No.10488451

>>10487724
damn barely hitting 75% of 10k with seemingly 0 competition and EU population still being awake too

Some impressive debuff I have to say.

>> No.10488689

>>10488043
wtf

>> No.10489010

>midtier Holos showdown
And the winner is: Moona! Fubuki and Watame make have get slightly larger numbers but Moona is a 2k streamer for everything else other than singing

>> No.10489102
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10489102

>>10489010

>> No.10489573

>>10489102
What happened to Roboco? I thought she was slightly ahead of Mel and Aki.

>> No.10490615

>>10489573
>I thought she was slightly ahead of Mel and Aki.
Only on uncontested slots, as she’s a fairly entertaining second choice for fans of other girls when there is nothing on.
Collabs like this reduce a streamer to their barebones of audience, except if they’re really good at whatever the collab is about

>> No.10490948
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10490948

Poor Matsurisu…

>> No.10491248

>>10486023
Don't know if it's region-locked in iTunes, but the Youtube video is time-locked and only available when it's the 28th in your time zone.

>> No.10491373

>>10487724
Voice
Personality
Mumei cute.
Why would someone watch Kiara when they can watch Mumei in the same collab?
She's filtered too many people too hard, for too long, so for anyone that's not new to HoloEN she's going to be the least-popular choice in a split view collab.

>> No.10491449

>>10489010
Winner of what battle? She was below Watame and Fubuki today with an *unarchived* stream.

>> No.10491542

>>10491449
you seem pretty new to this thread if you don't get how winner of the day works.

>> No.10491670

>>10478499
>watame
>fitness
Anon her manager has to quite literally cook for her to ensure she eats well and not just go by on chips. She also has even at times not been able to open a bag of chips and required someone else to do it for her.

>> No.10491736

>>10491670
Give her Some credit, she just used scissors instead of asking someone else to open them... but yes, that did happen 3 times in 2 weeks.

>> No.10491866

>>10491542
>Retard thinks lower numbers wins
Numbers thread cares about numbers, not your fantasy metrics. At least make an attempt to read. >>10489102

>> No.10492018

>>10491670
The sheep is doing fine. She just struggles to open the bags in a way that doesn't cause them to explode everywhere. Also her chip consumption is vastly overstated. EOPs just think anytime they hear a packaging sound that it's chips.

>> No.10492036

>>10491866
Not that guy, but the "winner of the day" posts in this thread have been relatively constantly about those who managed to punch away above their weights. I don't really care much about that, but at least he has been consistent

>> No.10492110

>>10492036
She's not punching above her weight with an UNARCHIVED stream.

>> No.10492712

Well, Kiara just confirmed on stream that their 'deadline' for portal builds is the 30th, so 1st week of October is gonna be JP-EN server merger, barring some technical issue.
Is there anything that Niji has in that timeframe, or is it just gonna be MC Hololive moggings for October?

>> No.10492928

>>10488043
Anon Ina's PC exploded. That is not susan this time.

>> No.10493181

>>10492712
Kiara confirmed it a couple weeks ago.
She mentioned that no one had any plans for the portal so she organized the relay thing.

>> No.10493346

>>10493181
Aha thanks for that. Too many hours of streams, very easy to miss info like this.

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