/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Kiara cute

>>10390679
I mean, Kiara actually took the time to ask RMT about Ukulele lessons to make a song for Calli, which >we made it together in a member stream, Kiara made Takamori part of the content, she put effort on it, so seeing how Calli does thing in the last minute, which is ok since she's working hard BUT come on, it's like a father going always late to his son things in the school, thank for the effort but come on, you're not even trying and when your son realize this, you will lost the charm.

I Love Takanashi Kiara

https://streamable.com/agblax
On today's episode of KFP

>>10391609
That wasn't a sad comment you tone-deaf autist, she said it in a completely neutral way and then proceeded to imply she doesn't care either way

Neat.

>>10392835
Prologue to picrel

Has there been any updates on Kiara's fibromyalgia and shit?
Last thing I remember was she said she was going to see a private doctor when she moves back to Europe.

>>10393278
Went to a private doctor whose purpose is basically to direct her to other docs. She got prescribed some muscle relaxants and will have some tests at some other point in time.

>>10393428
I hope she can get better

>>10392578
Saying one of your friends prefers someone else is a sad comment on itself you idiot. The moment Calli showed up in stream with Mamatori was pretty awkward and Kiara just vented simply vented after she received Takamori superchats in the superchat reading.

Posting my favorite ship. SMS Kiara

>>10392162
for as much as people shit on Kiara for being "insincere and insecure" Idk how Mori gets a free pass when she's both plus completely unenthusiastic

>>10393278
Last time I heard her talk about it she said she "has no time" to visit the doctor (because watching Netflix shows is more important).

I sometimes wonder what kind of streamer she'd be today in a world where her genmates were able to play off her personality better and she had been less liberal with the Japanese in her debut

>>10394727
>and she had been less liberal with the Japanese in her debut
what the fuck does this even mean

kiwawa

>>10391958
Nope. Kiara was never angry about the low energy collabs they had. She in fact defended Mori in all of them, saying that she was always just happy to collab with Mori, no matter what they did.
> That was 3 months ago, and if you consider the timetable, that was around the time Kiara stopped trying to make things work.
You’re just making things up in your head my dude. Kiara still called Mori “her boo” in that rap thing she made up for the UFO stream. Before that, she talked about asking for Mori milk in the Korean stream and was talking about her curves with Iofi during the MK tourney. Only after that is when she stopped and that was only around 3 weeks ago.

>>10394023
Same. When the doctor felt her back he just continued to ask her "What the fuck is this? What the fuck did you do?"

>>10394023
Me too, but it'll probably take awhile even though she's making some effort to deal with her issues

>>10395029
Literal battered housewife syndrome "at least he's giving me a sliver of attention when he's beating me!"

This is what love does to your brain. Now that she's no longer simping over Mori she probably sees many things about their relationship in a different, more rational, light.

>>10394890
are you an ESL or something? You do know words like liberal and conservative have meanings outside of a political context right? Is it because I said "Japanese" and not "Japanese Language?

If you can't understand what I posted you are functionally illiterate

>>10394340
I think they don't give her the pass, the "Calli's always ruin everything" is a meme but with layers of reality, and for me, i love the ending since white names saying "NTR KIARA STOP" can fuck off, also fuck Takamori twitter niggers, non Kiara or Mori are your tools of fantasies.

>>10395060
At least shes getting that chair.
Anything is better than a gaming chair.

>>10391579
Just imagine, that wondrous image could be the 468x60 top banner one day.
Looking forward to the kiaroke tomorrow, currently grinding more ToA streams to catch up.

>10395256
>ESL shitting on another ESL
holy hypocritechama

>>10395527
Those exercise ball office chairs are probably worse.

>>10395527
Get ready for the new arc," I can't sit like a monkey on the new chair".
By the way, she should buy some monitor supports too.

>>10394727
Doubt it would be much different. Kiara really lacks the "skillset" to be a successful EN vtuber.
Bad at games, completely ignorant of western pop culture and memes, pretty bad at humor, slow-witted (which is mostly caused by ESL I think)
On top of that outshined in singing and art by her genmates
D tier voice (even her "real" voice is so utterly generic maybe chicken voice is actually the lesser of two evils since it at least gives her an identity)
Idolfag brain meaning her music taste is gigashit tier which means all her karaokes were gigashit tier (until she finally started singing cringekino pop songs).
And last but not least a complete inability to understand what viewers would want. (Like jesus christ she's STILL going on about "wooow my cover song is more popular than an original song how can this beeee") Which often leads to her just simply doing the wrong things thinking they'll be successful... The forced Takamori ship being a prime example.

Of course she also has some talents where she shines like her smalltalk skills and chat interaction, but they are completely overshadowed by the flaws.

She is hard-carried by the amount of effort she puts into Hololive, otherwise she'd probably be Anya tier (comparatively).

There's a tragic irony that the birthday tapestry might arrive after I cool down on keeping up with Kiara

>>10396822
Why anon?

>>10396290
You are a complete retard that doesn't know what actually makes a successful streamer or vtuber. There are two things that make a good streamer: Personality and physical features. By physical features I mean a mix of both design and voice. Kiara's design (despite her beautiful face) and voice are a mix, so what hard carries Kiara is her personality. You may not like it want, or want to admit it, but Kiara is captivating. Her enthusiasm is contagious, her empathy and honesty just make her cuter and her vulnerable, needy, lonely side makes her even more cute because it makes people want to make the girl who wears her heart at her sleeve truly happy. This is why KFP is so loyal and why so many are dedicated and nothing would change that if Kiara was the same.
Also, fuck western pop culture and memes, fuck having to be good at games, I want my sufferkino, fuck your own lack of sense of humour. Fuck your deafened ears and shit taste incapable of recognizing talent where talent is due. But most of all, fuck you for even considering you or any retard here knows what the audience wants more than Kiara, do you not understand the bubble that you're in?

>>10396822
Just keep some streams for the vacation. I have some Tales of Arise catching up to do during that time.

>>10397369
Don't bite bait my dude

>>10397369
This is what overdosing on goslingpills looks like.

>>10397369
BASED AND KIARAPILLED

>>10396290
holy based
inb4 kfc jannies come and ree at you. Remember when they unironically adopted calling her gigastacy cos they couldnt cope with her being shit tier otherwise?
Ah, good times

>>10397131
Sorry for the blogpost, but I just feel weird about where I'm at right now, since I failed two uni courses that are required to advance further, I had to scramble to schedule one for this fall and another in spring. This has left me with not much work to do currently, so I don't have much else to do besides watch streams or play games sporadically.
>>10397458
I could do that, but I would simultaneously worry about missing out on the various little life/hololive details she sprinkles throughout those long stream

Are there any good originals and tracks she could sing in the archive karaoke that she hasn't yet? Other than her genmates original songs.

>>10396290
since you put a little effort into this, I'll put some effort too

>Bad at games, completely ignorant of western pop culture and memes
true, I agree I think she'd be better if she had those, but they're not essential and she's proof of that

>On top of that outshined in singing and art by her genmates
only Gura is objectively better at singing. her drawing skills aren't good, but she does have her own style and it's cute

>D tier voice (even her "real" voice is so utterly generic maybe chicken voice is actually the lesser of two evils since it at least gives her an identity)
nah. the only problem is her mic settings. her character voice is cute.

>Idolfag brain meaning her music taste is gigashit tier which means all her karaokes were gigashit tier (until she finally started singing cringekino pop songs).
you're starting to go overboard with the buzzwords here. sorry she's not to your tastes but speak for yourself

>And last but not least a complete inability to understand what viewers would want.
wrong, she's improved a lot. but she's not gonna do things she doesn't like and that's that. accept it.

>The forced Takamori ship being a prime example.
you're dead wrong. you live in the schizo NEET bubble that is /vt/. Takamori is very popular among normal fans to this day, though it's past its prime.

>>10397832
crying about jannies is pathetic, bro. also please stop camping this thread begging for (you)s, it makes you look like a filthy stray dog.

>>10398330
>Takamori is very popular among normal fans to this day, though it's past its prime.
Take a look at social media right now, people everywhere are coming out of the closet about their distaste for the ship, calling it forced etc. even on leddit

>>10398298
I like Watame's Mayday, Mayday but idk if Kiara would really go for that, even though she and sheep get along.

>>10397369
HERE HERE

>>10395331
This probably won't end well considering Kiara has spent the entire last year leaning so heavily into Takamori it's basically been her entire character. Takamori twitter niggers are 90% of her audience, without that she's going back to NijiEN numbers.

>>10398509
>people everywhere
you're such a lying, dishonest fuck. please don't make statements that are easily disprovable if you want to be taken seriously

>>10398509
Nah, most I've seen are happier they're not gonna force it.

>>10398139
Goodluck in Uni anon.

>>10398709
this is even below thread reading level

>>10398139
Good luck with Uni anon, shit is wild there

>>10397369
>You may not like it want, or want to admit it, but Kiara is captivating
Delusional. The guy you responded to is 100% correct and it doesn't matter whether YOU find Kiara "capitvating (fucking gross), the numbers don't lie

>But most of all, fuck you for even considering you or any retard here knows what the audience wants more than Kiara, do you not understand the bubble that you're in?
Pathetic argument, we can see the views Kiara gets compared to her genmates.

>>10398848
The twitter tranny audience is the one Kiara has deliberately cultivated by appealing to tumblr shippers, like it or hate it.

>>10398881
>Delusional
ironic.jpg

>>10396290
The first five lines are valid criticism I think. I still watch her though. I don't know why, I don't do it on purpose, but I always choose the Naruto of the group, any content creator group.
I think Kiara demonstrates potential. Just compare her to her first few months. She's incredibly different. She's able to change and grow which is nice because it matches well with her Phoenix image.

I just wish she would spend her time reading instead of watching Netflix but what are you going to do? There are so many instances where she can't really get the words out and as an entertainer that can really hamper your creative ability. Imagine what Kiara really has going on in that German brain but we don't get to see it.

>>10398881
>the numbers don't lie
>the numbers
>numbers
Sounds like I get to be the last KFP then anon. See you in the next decade I guess? Your numberfaggotry won't stop me from supporting my oshi until the end.

>>10398709
And then you wake up right?

>>10398881
>the guy you responded to is 100% correct

>>10399118
>You don't know what the audience wants!
>Numbers don't mean anything!
So what's the metric for determining whether Kiara is giving the audience what they want my fine KFPfag? How many "I wuv Kiara soooooo much" posts get made on reddit?

>>10392835
She's looking at her future and then she dies alone and becomes sustenance for her cats

>>10399004
And mostly all of them are poorfags white names that only used Takamori to get their dad/mom issues in check, to the point they fight Core KFP members by blocking them and living their own shitty reality. Most of KFP don't give a fuck about Takamori, in fact, many of us told Kiara for months to sunk the ship and go with Watame, Nene or Ina.

>>10399264
are you actually mentally disabled?

>>10394379
>getting actual help would mean she couldn't complain about it anymore

Based pragmatic attention whore.

>>10399264
>How many "I wuv Kiara soooooo much" posts get made on reddit?
Sure that's one metric. But the important one is "Is Kiara happy with the content she is creating, and the community she is leading?"
If she answers that with a yes, good enough for me. If not, she make tweaks and changes to see where she wants to go.

Oh, full of buzzwords, ignore and report guys, i think some nigger is still waiting to get Drama out of Takamori, of all thing you can actually think here lmao

yeah this is weak. at least the first guy tried a little.

>>10399420
So basically you're saying numbers don't matter and if your mommy says you're the best son in the whole wide world then that must be true. Your sentimentality is irrelevant, especially when we know Kiara is the biggest numberfag in HoloEN. Hard data matters and the data shows Kiara is the least popular EN by a wide margin for the reasons >>10396290 brought up.

>>10399537
I mean, he's literally asking us if >we're satisfied, what a dumb question after a year. Go shitpost hoomans dear dramafag, you might get more (You) for them,

>Quoting your own postes
Are you that pathetic?

>>10399697
I'm not asking you if you're satisfied, it's obvious the KFP thread would slurp up Kiara's rancid diarrhea if it was served to them in a soup bowl, the point is what Kiara does doesn't appeal to the wider audience only a specific subset of tumblrite fags who make up most of her audience because they know she's a big SJW like them.

>>10399697
I heard some kroniies are still biting bait about the Bae thing, maybe he could try going there

One thing I've been thinking about is wondering what made her feel like it was time to come forward about her decision to distance herself from Takamori. Was it that she finally feels like the community is ready to hear it? Or was she just putting it off until somebody called it "fanservice" and she felt like she needed to clarify?
I feel like she expected KFP YTC to take it better than they initially did. Her tone had a touch of "Surely you saw this coming, right?" when people started spamming the crying emote

>>10399622
>you're saying numbers don't matter
You're learning eggo! Nice work, here's a sticker.
>Kiara is the biggest numberfag [blah blah blah] is the least popular EN [blah blah blah] obvious samefaggotry
Cool, you don't like Kiara's content, don't watch it. And if Kiara finds that the
>numbers
aren't where she'd like she'll make changes. Or she won't and she'll live with the results. Doesn't impact you any.

>>10399840
Or try with Faulings with the rrats, even now he's trying the SJW route when i bombed terrorist in Syria lmao

Guys let him seethe alone, he's desperate.

>>10399931
Everyone knew the ship was dead, the "We didn't talk for a month", the "She's very friendly with Gura", and other examples, she just make it clear for people who didn't take the hint, which are mostly Schizo shippers who spammed today about Calli making the Naruto song. And even worse since Calli's coming to the MC server with Mamatori feel like an obligation rather and a waiting actually to be there like Ame, Gura and Ina did.

>>10399931
For the record, was one of the folks in chat not spamming :_cry:
>"fanservice" and she felt like she needed to clarify?
I think it was 100% this. She would not have touched that topic at all otherwise, same as before.
"Calli is tsun tsun, but Takamori isn't really active, and we collab when we want to." seems to have been her position for a while but since speaking out about it of course lit the fires of Gondor she wouldn't just drop it randomly on stream. Even today, she cut herself off to prevent undue bullshit which I respect, but it sucks she couldn't be frank about it.

>>10400077
The moment someone said the "SJW" word, there's 99% of chance that the post is just garbage, nobody took that word seriously after 2018.

>>10399931
Any fandom is basically split into two tiers. The first tier is the people who genuinely enjoy the primary content and get invested in it. The second tier are the people who primarily like the secondary content that is created because of the primary content (fan arts, fan fictions, etc). Takamori shippers are of the second kind, they don't really follow Hololive that much they mainly like it because it generates the secondary content they like. The first tier fans would have seen it coming, the second tier would have been upset because they enjoy the content created from Takamori more than that actual streams themselves.

>>10399931
Was just the best opportunity to say it openly.

7 BILLION CHICKENS

>>10400205
Anon there are still people seething about "gamergate" even now in 2021

>>10400217
I'm dreading the idea of one or more of those secondaries sending Mori SC in order to get her "angle" on things, when I'm sure that's the last thing Kiara wants.

>>10400142
To think we still had deadbraps trying to act like TakaMori is alive and well mere hours before Kiara killed it, kek

give me a (You)

>>10400401
Nice palindrome post number

>>10400371
It was poetic and many of them draw shit only to get the bullet

>>10400401
Here you go.

>>10400401
>>10400448
holy fuck now that's some actual rare digits

>>10400485
>>10400477
I only wanted 1 (You). Please stop the (You) harassments now

>>10400371
I've been sick of the whole "YOU ALL WILL SEE, IT'LL COME BACK AND YOU'LL ALL SEE" for months. Especially as time has gone on and it's been more and more obvious that it's been painful for Kiara.

>>10400401
Ogey

>>10400549
No.

>>10400288
It has been 7 years and many of them are useless crash grabs, the only one who redeem himself was Kraut since he actually started to make content instead of doing useless podcast, the rest? NIggers and jobless X-gen faggots

>>10400549
No.

>>10400288
I thought Comicsgate is all the rage now.

>>10398881
>The numbers don't lie
>1.2M subs
>2nd most SC earning of her gen
>20 most SC of all youtube

I guess the number really don't lie

>>10400629
Please ignore him, he's an attentionwhore.

>>10400629
>Replying the bait
Anon, you can do better, grow some skin

>>10399004
>twitter
>tumblr
Stick with one

>>10401130
They're the same shit

>>10401130
After tumblr deleted the porn, tumblr users moved to twitter, they're the same shit

>>10400188
I wonder what it was. I wish she could speak openly about stuff like that, but I'm guessing it's something people would blow out of proportion.

>>10401303
Yeah, there was a thing happening on the tweet of Hinotori where someone claiming it was a "LGTBQ" song and then a shitstorm occurred there, even with totally not doxx involved. and many of them, Takamori shippers And the KFP was just chilling with the song

>>10399931
They would have taken it better if she hadn't worded everything so fucking awfully, every time she has a "real talk" it always ends up a dumpster fire because her ESL brain can't handle it.
She basically hinted at graduation next year at one point of the stream also, which was completely unneccessary, it didn't provide us any kind of substance, instead of talking about the great year that she's had and, she fucking chose the literal opposite. There's a big difference between not sugarcoating things, and just straight up doomposting, she could have just left us at Hololive being a time limited thing, instead she just had to go and drop an exact point of time, basically telling everyone she got barely a year left. We all know what we have going on is fleeting, but don't just drop a timer attached to the detonator, menhera leaking plus ESL is just a deadly combination.

>10401638
You're trying too hard kek

>>10401638
how can you possibly feel comfortable calling anyone menhera when you sperg like this? take a look at yourself.

>>10401722
When you're on legit schizophrenia, you project what you're into other like that egg

>>10401722
Viewers reflect their streamer, do they not? I'm just shitting on her ESL brain when it comes to this kind of matter, she's never been good with being put on the spot because of that.

>>10401807
>Viewers reflect their streamer, do they not?
i'm not making money playing videogames and neither are you, so i assume not

>>10401638
Wait why aren’t more people talking about graduation hint than shipping shit

>>10402019
Because she didn't hint at it, people overreacted when she's been saying shit like this for months and it has nothing to do with graduation, just that she thinks this job has a shelf life and that she won't get to enjoy it for very long before it's taken away

>>10401638
Link to the hint? Don't make we watch the whole thing again

>>10401944
So you're saying you don't feel down even a little bit when she starts doomposting like that?
Actually it's not about the fact she doomposted, like shit she's done several times already, it's just the way she put it this time was just awful.
>>10402019
We have something else to blame for TakaMori while doomposting was all on her so

>>10402120
https://youtu.be/9nfZOVbtPD0?t=16952
Here it is. I consider this a nothingburger, but I like giving timestamps.

>>10401944
https://youtu.be/9nfZOVbtPD0?t=16950

Should start from there for some context, basically she went from fucking autumn/winter fashion of all places to basically she's not seeing a future where this can last more than one more year.

>>10402365
was meant for
>>10402120

>>10402355
if you don't want real talk, don't watch Kiara lol
that said, at this point we have streamers who have been at it for a decade or more still making a comfortable living, with a loyal fanbase, so it's not as "time limited" as she thinks

>>10402506
Nah, you're falling prey to selection bias. You see all these content creators who have been around for years because they're the ones who everyone follows and talks about. Think about all the 200views who collapse after a year or two because they don't have the motivation to continue their content. Or the fact that Kiara has lost her dreamjob, and all of her other creative-adjacent jobs before settling into them properly. Maybe she's in a position that'll finally last, but given her life experience, of course she doesn't see it that way.

>>10402365
I can see where you're coming from, I do, but I think she's just been too stressed to pick pretty words when it comes to this kind of talks. If that's really what on her mind, just let her say it, some might not take well like (You) but in the end we're still going to be there when the days come, beating around the push doesn't make it a day farther.

>>10402623
i have 0 doubt in my mind Kiara is gonna be just fine no matter what she chooses to do in the future. you sound like a wreck though with your excessive concernfagging.

>>10402737
I'M concernfagging? I'm just trying to tell you why she might feel that way, I'm not saying I feel that way myself. You're the one concernfagging what with your excessive tone policing.
Have a little goddamn empathy for Kiara.

JWU have we moved on from the TakaMori crap?

>>10402862
Most have. I don't know about the others

>>10402737
oy vey...

STREAM HEART CHALLENGER???

>>10402677
Has anyone here considered that it is her openness with these topics that pushes people away? Kind of like being too meta? Breaking the illusion type. It feels like she drops a downer at least once each superchat

>>10402862
Here's the rough breakdown:
>Takamorifags
Coping, saying it will still be fine, it's not dead just gonna be different
>Non Takamori shippers
Rejoicing
>Gooselings
Rejoicing
>People who don't care
Don't care

>>10402859
woops, you made it a little too obvious there.
still, this reply chain still served its purpose. if you genuinely start feeling like this, it's time to take a step back and see if you're not maybe getting a little too deep into someone's else life and forgetting to pay attention to your own.

>>10402965
Some people like to look behind the curtain and she gives that

>>10402965
Well I personally don't think she can push away more than a dozen people at this stage, those who are left are either absolute die hard or casual viewers who don't really catch those moments because they don't tune into SC reading unless someone else brings it up.
It's still kinda bad to hear she says it tho, being a die hard.

>>10403011
Then why are you the one having a meltdown over someone who made a passing comment about the time passing too quickly?

>>10403209
>meltdown
huh?

>>10391579
Where's this banner from? Looks like a thumbnail.

>>10403285
Maybe you're not the person I thought you were, if you're not the person ranting about "ESL brain". All I'm trying to say is that it's fine if she feels the way she does, and I don't think she's going to graduate. Anyone freaking out about her random musings needs to calm the fuck down.

>>10402999
Kiara...

>>10403376
A banner Kiara showed us in the superchat reading of the most recent mamatori stream. She apparently edited it together awhile ago in a bid to replace her default Hololive youtube banner. She didn't like it so she commissioned an artist to work on one instead

I still rewatching videos of her fangirling for Pekora. It’s addicting, I have never seen a Holo so happy before

I wanna like Kiara more but she just can't help doing something stupid. She's really her own worst enemy. It's kinda sad.

>>10403723
Don't you "Kiara..." that fag. It was a geniune gift she made for her disregarding the entire Takamori schtick. Their dynamic has of course changed but thay doesn't discredit the fact that these two were and probably still are good friends.

>>10404293
First months Kiara is a precious treasure to remember forever. She used to get excited for everything and was parasocial with her chat but in a different way than she is now.
Remember how excited she got when she got her first fanletters? and she spent time on twitter replying to some people who sent her letters.

She never mentioned her latest batch of letters again. The last time she talked about it she picked some of them up, and before that she mentioned how she didn't have time to get over the ones she had at hand. If she's as busy as she says she is there's a chance she hasn't read many of them still. Back in Japan she had more time at hand after all.

Back then it felt that every word of support really touched her heart because she really needed that encouragement.
"Some things change". Some things change over time Kusotori. You are right.

>>10401638
I am really tired of this ESL excuse. She would say the same things in German, but that doesn't make it better.
If you say she is more blunt because she is ESL, she only reveals her true personality more. So if it were not for her personality there would not be an issue with being blunt like this.
Overall she is a negative thinker who will never be satisfied with life so this is why it always ends up as doomposting that feeds the rrats.

Just remembered when Kiara toured a kfp website and minecraft server during the 1 Million danke schöns stream, very heartwarming

>>10402999
Kiara's art style is unironically soulful. Like in terms of expressiveness and emotionality. The fact that Mori looks slightly away from the hand outstretched towards her gives it a wistful feel...
I wish she would do art streams but I guess she feels insecure compared to Ina. Or maybe it's too stressful. IDK.

>>10404829
It was a bizarre time back then...

>>10404587
The fact that she look up to Pekora and said Pekora give her the strength to overcome hardship honestly surprise me. Not that Pekora is bad, I just couldn't imagine that she actually help changed someone's life

>threads continuously keep shitting on her
Not gonna lie, this place actually gave me thicker skin.

Now we can legally have any ship we want nothing is stopping my TorIRyS crack ship

What day will the members turn 1 year again?

kikkee

>>10406527
Can't believe she'd dog whistle like this. Austrians seemed so tolerant...

>>10402965
Wouldn't say so. The reason why she's niche is because she chose to veer off of viewfarming, i.e. pandering to the current memes and using popular streaming content. Normalfags don't care about anything else but the moments that get clipped, and sadly they make up the majority of the viewership all around HoloEN. In their eyes, Kiara being frank with her viewers is just another minute she's not spending with dancing around like a circus monkey to their whims.

>>10406602
She is streaming EU times and chubbas are still extremely niche in EU.
That's really the biggest things cutting into her live viewers. Even before game selection she has a smaller potential audience than the rest of Myth.
Additionally many of her US viewers who do manage to catch her live listen to her in the background while working which causes YT not to count them as viewers.
Not saying she wouldn't have the lowest live viewers in Myth without that but I am pretty sure the viewer culling hits KFP harder than other fanbases percentagewise.

>>10402999
Oh god this makes me feel horrible for her, i hope she can someone else that can actually reciprocate

>>10407024
find*

>>10407024
All these months and Mori is still the biggest bitch in EN while doing it completely unintentionally.

>>10407136
Man i really don't wanna start hating mori but this shit is just horrible

>>10407228
Its like seeing two people you admire alot "breaking up" but one of the parties doesn't even seem to care

>>10400371
Deadbeat here, zero actual deadbeats where doing that.

>>10407136
Mori leeched out of Kiara until she started gaining traction and then stopped caring about her. I hate her so much

Seems like mori antis care more than kfp, deadbeats or takamori shippers.

So you guys can stop talking about her now and fuck off.

>>10407228
I don't hate her but holy shit must it be frustrating to be a friend of hers. Kiara would really feel better about pairing with someone who knows how to play along with her. It sucks that council doesn't seem to have many outgoing holos in them either.

>>10407265
>>10407357
Meds. I don't enjoy Spergliope but her approach to this has been the healthier and more sustainable of the two the entire time. Kiara's just been stubborn about this like she is about everything, for better or worse. It's a quality that has both helped her and hurt her in a lot of ways.

>>10407437
>It sucks that council doesn't seem to have many outgoing holos in them either.
u wot m8?
Did you not see the cock and ballz collab?

>>10406467
Tomorrow

Future Takamori collabs:
>Both of them will be acting less autistic, because they don't have to play into role
>Both of them will be able to just relax, enjoy the game and company
How exactly is this not a win on all fronts?

>>10407469
Baelz still seemed a bit too meek in that collab since Kiara would lead a lot of conversations. I'm hopeful that a few months down the line they'll be great streamers but I guess it is still too early to judge them

>>10407457
>An egg was broken for this post

>>10407513
Fewer reasons to sperg out and hate them for stupid reasons.

>>10407513
Because the underage brownskins that browse /vt/ want to make a big fuss about it.

>>10407517
You're wrong. Actually I like Kiara's stubbornness and consider it much preferable to stereotypical feminine wishy-washyness, but there are definitely issues on which it doesn't do her any favors and acknowledging that is not being an anti.

>>10407457
I dont think its mori's fault necessarily, kiara is just a very emotionally needy person and mori is jut not the type of person to give her that much attention

>>10407517
You okay anon?

>>10407610
I think maybe if kiara stayed in japan this could work better, but now they are countries away from each other and Mori is way worse in non-offline collabs it would never work

LMAO no wonder Kiara is the most hated EN member, seeing this thread shows that KFP care so much to baits and shit threads, while Mori thread doesn't give a shit about this whole dead issue in the last months issue LOL

>>10407582
>stereotypical feminine wishy-washyness
Go back to discord Eggschizo

With this, Kiara can finally begin earnestly pursuing her true destined partner.

>>10407714
What does pomu even do other than sing?

>>10407736
She's pomu

>>10407736
I'm Pomu

>>10407714
Yeah, cant wait!

>>10407749
>>10407759
seems legit

>>10407759
Proof?

>>10407736
Anon she's only done one karaoke in a month's time, at least check a chuuba's channel before pretending to know what they do.

>>10407749
>>10407759

>>10407781
See
>>10407759
>>10407749

>>10407786
Nigga I watch every Kiara stream from start to finish and I can't keep up with Nijis on top of watching the other chuubas I like when Kiara's not on. It was a genuine question since the only stuff I know about pomu is she likes idols, singing and is a lesbian

>>10407799
Wtf its really pomu no way

>>10407864
You could've just checked her channel instead of having autism

>>10407864
>Nigga I watch every Kiara stream from start to finish
>on top of watching the other chuubas I like when Kiara's not on
Literally how?

>>10407883
I poomu'd my pants after Kiara started playing idol music again.

Can I he honest for a second?
I was hoping the catalog would be more orange.
the only Threads are a mediocre „rate the ship“ and a weak falseflag by leechschizo

>>10407915
Pre-recorded uni classes plus I have a pretty light workload this time of the year. I have a shitload of free time now so I just watch chuubas all day

>>10407963
I think the impossible happened the eggs are starting to move away.

>>10407963
After that opinion, no. Drama is bad for the brain. Only schizos being upset shows how much of a non issue it is.

Ayo KFP. I just want to say her desk is really cute. It's always nice to see holos form bonds outside of their gen.

>>10407991
Are we finally free bros? Was takamori really the only thing locking back those retards with us?

Soon Calli will realize that her popularity its all thanks to Kiara, in a few weeks when her numbers collapse, she will come back crawling

That's a very weak falseflag you're trying to plant, anonchama.

Anyway, that's probably enough talk about Takamori for now. What do you think she'll sing today besides Reflect?

>>10407963
/vt/'s attention span is getting smaller and smaller as the months go on. Not many people like repeating the same shit for months on end so people just come into threads, shitpost about whatever non-drama is happening for a bit then fuck off since they know nothings gonna change. This takamori shit isn't even a big deal since it's just Kiara trying to improve her stream quality

>>10408009
I dislike drama, eggs can Hang themselves
But I was hoping for another cataclysm to filter all the newfags that keep replying to bait and then go „oh no you see I find it fun to engage witch schzios who cares if the thread gets derailed“

>>10408077
I was hoping for either Violet, Could you please R.I.P, or Amelia's Song

>>10408024
Isn't that Kiara hobby in JP side? and now with EN2?

>>10408077
I want a purely Idol songs karaoke

>>10408105
Amelia has a song?

>>10408123
Boosting others numbers with collabs? yes, you may say thats her Hobby eggchama

>>10408077
For unarchived part, I really hope she will pick up some oldish, but not ancient, popular english songs. She occassionaly sings bits of them during streams, but never saw her pick it up for karaoke. Even fucking Bon Jovi would do for me...

>>10408157
Yeah this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj2JFtU7c78

>>10408077
I hope for a Nene song

>>10408251
Holy soul

>>10408251
Cute

>>10408251
Ame and Kiara will be the next ship, how would it be called? Ametori?

>>10408606
I think they just want cute flirting and not a real ship

Speaking of ships. Kiara kind of reminds me of either the Warspite or the Hornet.

>>10408679

The song talk reminds me, what is her release schedule right now? What I remember is a Halloween cover release, a collab cover with Ina in December if everything goes right and another cover with Ame in 2022, am I missing something?

>>10406212
Ive been watching more IRyS lately, and have really been enjoying her, so I would really like a 1 on 1 collab with each other to see how they mix. They did collab a lot, but they were only in big full grps (the full EN collab, MK tourny, EN/JP/ID gartic phone, guerilla phas).

They also seem to be decently familiar with each other off stream as Kiara has some records of her playing the bomb defuse game with IRyS, they were hanging out with ina and gura during council debut which lead into the guerilla collab, and IRyS was watching Kiara's anniversary stream, at least when Kiara was reacting to her debut.

>>10408936
I feel like we got screwed put of a collab cause council debuted so soon after. Irys can play into jokes and is a bit more high energy and kooky than she first seemed. Her Reine streams have been good so I have high hopes.

I don't think she is quite an idolfag, but she does love her anime OPs and I wonder how much Kiara could drag out of her.

>>10408633
nah, Ame needs some relevancy, so she will leech out of Kiara's popularity too, but Tenchou its way too nice to notice

Post the bait, samefag to it, samefag again telling kfp pathetic for always biting the obvious baits.
How's my strategy looking kfp?

She definitely voiced an owl, at least in the dub, and kind of hinted it, right?

>>10408016
Its def very cute touches, would be cool to get more, like coco, watame, or fubuki added

>>10409150
Wut?

>>10409111
Would benefit from a freakout after being called egg and some IP changes.

Kiara said she had 3 council collabs planned, since bae just happened its now 2. Who do you think it'll be?

I think Kronii and Fauna, but thats mostly because I think Kiara wants to play that kiwi bird game with Mumei which she hasn't gotten permissions for yet, and when Kiara talked to Sana during their MC stream she said "I hope to collab with you in the future", possibly implying they don't have a plan for one yet, but could also be that she doesn't want to spoil it.

On more important matters, find a horror game that isn't Outlast tier intense, but still enough of a horror game for Gura to hold her hands.
Because Gura seems very enthusiastic about this collab, and it's something fresh and new for Kiara, hopefully Kiara does't keep staying stagnant about it or else this will go down the drain because we know they want to do it for Spooktober.
This is now a game suggestion, semi /v/ thread.

>>10409575
Spooky's House of Jumpscares, FNAF, Or any RPG maker horror games.

>>10391579
>MEMEMEMEME
pic

>>10409575
Darkstalkers. Sasquatch players put fear into me like nothing else.

>>10409216
Coco and FBK are referenced among her HoloTalk episodes and sadly Kiara didn't have that much more on-stream contact with either of them. Only shitpost review with Coco and still nothing with the fox friend.
I'd love to see Watame added and hopefuly with the portal we will get more gangimari sisters action.

>>10409575
If she feels more comfortable in a multiplayer setting with others, she could play the Forest with Gura.

>>10409575
No, fuck what the dumb shark wants, if she does not want play horror don´t force it on her.
I am glad she will not play Outlast.

>>10409575
Maybe RE7 on easy and just play up to leaving the house. It would also probably be better since you can actually defend yourself.

>>10410199
All of their collabs so far, Kiara has decided on what they should do during those streams. Sure you can blame Gura for not taking the lead all those times and come up with something on her own. However, it's such a rare sight to see Gura so pending on a collab idea with one of her genmates like this, it's just one stream, and the entire reason we started discussing was to find something Kiara can at least handle 1-2 hours of.

>>10410482
Yeah I think a game where you actually have a chance to defend yourself is a better option. Things can be a little less scary when you actually have a chance, although with Kiara's panicking tanking her gaming skill through the floor she might be better off running.

>>10410539
Kiara got Monster Hunter because Gura wanted to play it with her and then got ghosted on that.

>>10410553
Imagine Kiara unloading a clip at the first monster she sees.

>>10409216
Remember that this desk was not commissioned it was a gift. Sure they know who Kiara probably want on her desk and they had pretty good taste for those pictures. But Kiara didn't decide to include Watame or not, for instance. The only change she made was to include kiara-frog.

If you remember her laptop stickers, Watame was there.

graduation announcement tomorrow

>>10410635
Oh Congrats!

AmeTori is probably a big factor in Kiara deciding to put TakaMori in the backburner.
She finally experienced someone putting in at least some effort despite Ame being shy and not too into shipping herself. So there is no way she could go back to Mori while acting like the reaper is her favorite.
It's like when she had that guerilla UsaKen thing and was completely floored how the JP holos (and Moona) can just get together and do something. Meanwhile trying to get her own gen to do literally anything has always been like pulling teeth.
Kiara carried TakaMori and fullEN collabs on her back for almost an entire year and she earned putting down these burdens.
After TTRPG there will probably be only very little FullMyth content outside of special events but now that EN is 11 instead of 5 that is not too terrible.

>>10410539
Ye sure, just look at >>10410565
Meme shark needs to get a taste of her own medicine, hope Kiara continues to ghost her about Outlast

This guy's still at it lol. Talk about obsessed

>>10410731
> carried TakaMori and fullEN collabs on her back for almost an entire year and she earned putting down these burdens.
Yet she's the unpopular one why?

>>10410731
I honestly believe the rrat that Kiara dropped Takamori solely because she fell for Ame.
Sure she can give a lot of reasons why Takamori is objectively terrible and harming their growth and freedom as vtubers etc. blabla. But the thing is, none of those reasons would have mattered JACKSHIT if she was still as emotionally attached to Mori as she used to be. Even if it was actively harming her (well, emotionally it was anyway) she would have just turned into "full retard hyperstubborn mode" Kiara as she often does and not budged an inch.

Now that she no longer cares about Mori, sure, she suddenly can name all the reasons why the pairing shouldn't be forced anymore. Also, it's funny how normies are running around pretending the reasons Kiara gave are the ONLY reasons she wants it to stop, when she VERY CLEARLY implied that there are other reasons she can't talk about and this is just the only thing that's safe to mention. I mean seriously if the "things change" line didn't tip you off to what's really behind all of this you must be room temperature IQ.

>>10410565
>>10411096
Not just Gura but Ina also, but Ina got hung up playing with other people. Also, you're telling me holding a grudge over that would do Kiara any good? There are multiple decent horror that Kiara can handle 2 hours of, she can just talk her way out of fear with Gura if she feels like it. Treating Kiara like sugar glass ain't gonna get her anywhere.

>>10411449
No I was just saying Gura was forthcoming with a game idea before. And then she dropped it.
So her wanting to play Outlast with Kiara is not some momentous occassion that has to be held high.

I see tons of Shitposting about Takamori. I'm sorry for participating in it with my post.

I quite like TakaMori from concept alone. A figure that reaps the dead and a phoenix that dies and revives again. They've had fun interactions and like anons have said I hope now there's no pressure on both parties anymore.

But in practice I've been really liking AmeTori. I love how giddy Kiara talks about Ame's interactions with her and how soft she talks about Ame. I love how Ame reciprocates with nice replies. I've liked all their collabs together, and I'm hoping we get more AmeTori interactions in the future.

But lore wise how would one explain how an invincible Phoenix gets together with a time travelling detective?

Sorry if I sound like a /u/ schizo and if you want to tell me to kill myself go ahead. also sorry for the reddit spacing, I didn't want this to look like a schizo ramble more than it already is.

He's still going LMAO

>>10411503
>But lore wise how would one explain how an invincible Phoenix gets together with a time travelling detective?
Dude that’s easy, Kiara’s immortal and can encounter Ame at any point in time, especially if Kiara’s alternate dimensions and Ame’s alternate timelines are the same thing.
It’s essentially the same idea, and may God forgive me for bringing up Doctor Who in the year of our lord twenty twenty-one, as The Doctor and Captain Jack Harkness. Hopefully tumblr doesn’t ruin this too.

>>10411503
After another hard case the detective needs some comfort food, so she travels back to when there is a KFP around. Mostly at the start of the franchise when a certain phoenix has to man the serving floor herself. It was better back then. Over different times and dimensions they bond, with the phoenix always cheering her up and wondering why the detective feels so familiar.

Kiara's autistic refusal to play a horror game is kinda funny considering the one she did end up playing, she wasn't even scared by at all.

I just don't get why she has to make such a big fucking stink about trying out a new genre. "waah waaah I'm a JRPG chuuba go watch someone else if you want different genres waah", like holy fuck you menhera people aren't demanding a long series for these games or for you to permanently change your style, they want ONE (1, UNO) stream of you playing something you're not familiar with because it's a novel experience for multiple reasons.
Stop acting like this is too much to ask for.

>>10411819
its just her psyching herself out. It doesn't help parts of dumb fuck brigade in chat is telling her that its vewy scawy.

>>10411819
Not sure what her deal with FPS is but with horror I can see her being truely afraid that she can't handle it and will break down on stream.
Some of us saw the end of Skyward Sword and how Kiara can get too into things.

>>10411503
Bro, we just came out of a failed established "ship", and I don't think any of the participants (nor the audience) are in a hurry to repeat the same mistakes so soon.

I think >we (and Kiara) should lay off trying to make "serious" ships happen for a while (or ever, the only ship I want to see is Kiara+KFP, the rest is just fluff). The problem is that it forces their characters into certain "roles", and limits their interaction potential (because they always think they have to uphold the act, and/or the audience constantly bugs them about it, like Kiara said and that gets on their nerves). They are not good enough actors to make that work, especially such a "complicated" relationship dynamic like "clingy vs. tsundere" that they had planned for takamori. Which was probably the worst dynamic they could have chosen. First of all, because it doesn't translate from anime fantasy into english really well without coming off as cringe, second of all because they're bad actors (which made Kiara come off as overbearing and desperate, and Mori as abrasive and bitchy, and this unnecessarily worsened their characters reputation over it), and third because their actual personalities are too much of an incompatible mismatch for real life cracks not to appear over time (Kiara is emotionally needy and probably takes rejection, even if just play-acted from the tsundere shtick, a little too personal than she'd like to admit, and Mori's autistic loner tendencies would guarantee that she'd never give Kiara the amount of attention she needed, especially after they weren't physically together in japan anymore but basically a LDR that'd take effort to uphold, and we all know how Mori feels about putting effort into things that aren't her immediate interests).

So yeah, please no actual "ships" anymore. Casual interactions with everyone please, friendly banter, and sure, lighthearted noncommittal flirting here and there, because that's par for the course of virtual anime girls, but as soon as you try to make this into a "serious thing", it gets odious, because we're back to limiting their characters and there's just simply too much potential for unnecessary drama to be worth it.

>>10411978
>Not sure what her deal with FPS is
not enough cute anime girls and she doesn't seem to like sci-fi. Also she panics super easy so anything multiplayer is out of the question. It's a shame I think it'd be really entertaining to watch her play some single-player campaigns but that'll probably be a longer road to go down than getting her to play horror games. At least with horror Gura is trying to get her to play.

Dear lord jesus she only said Outlast was perhaps a bit too much for her, that's why she wanted some suggestions for other horror that she could handle better. Which is why I've been trying to sort out the options threads after threads, I'm genuinely think she's just that much of a chicken ironically enough, so the best thing to do is just looking for other options for horror.

>>10411967
For a novel horror player, Outlast is an awful choice. She should start with something like action horror. RE4 might be a decent choice. Dead Space might be a bit much for her, and she doesn’t like sci-fi (dammit). I think any horror game where the player isn’t completely helpless would be a decent pick.

>>10412074
Five Nights at Freddys

>>10411978
This may be callous but having a mental breakdown over a horror game with heart rate monitor shooting through the roof would be 10/10 kino.

CAM'ON CHIGGUN THINK ABOUT THE VIEWERS UNLEASH YOUR INNER NUMBERFAG YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT

>>10412067
I remember her having a lot of fun playing sniper in A Way Out. There's always these moments where you think she might enjoy that stuff if she just put her mind to hit, but then you're hit with her wall of "I DON'T WANNA MOVE OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE WAAAH" stubborn autism.

>>10412099
Seconded for RE but I just know her shooter autism is gonna make her write it off

>>10409575
>Horror: Silent Hill, Alien Isolation
>Horror FPS: FEAR
>It-will-never-happen 'Horror' FPS: STALKER

Bonus
>Coop "Horror": Dead Space 3, FEAR 3, The Forest

>>10412074
>>10412420
What do you guys think about little nightmares
It’s more body horror and environmentally driven.
The sidescrolling gives the player a bit more „distance“

>>10412347
I will repeat again and again: why the FUCK aren’t there more tacticute girl shooters? GFL has a market, the game doesn’t need to be super high quality, just a decent AA market thing.

>>10412938
Because in first person I can’t see the ass of my character, duh!

Fuck that might be unironically true…

Hello KFPs,

I’ve heard that Kiara wanted to end TakaMori. I know there’s a clip about it on YouTube but I couldn’t even be bothered watching through it. I know I don’t deserve an answer because of this but I’m still interested to know why.

>>10413018
Then just make it a TPS.
Imagine the Gears roadie run with a cute girl’s butt in your face

>>10412813
It would work as a horror game, but I think Gura would shit on it because "no jumpscares"

So, maybe she can use this as an excuse to branch out and try new genres as you guys are saying. She already is the JRPG and adventure game English Holo. Ame plays puzzles and FPS, Ina does the Metroidvanias and character action games (and Lovecraft games when they're available), Calli does music, and Gura does a grab bag of stuff and rhythm games. Gen 2 is still finding their place. What genres are open, other than horror?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_genres
Rougelikes might be workable. Or maybe fighting games. She's probably not the type for sim and strategy games. I'm pretty sure there's a reason no Holo has ever touched a sports game.

>>10413137
I'd like to see Kiara play Empire Earth.

>>10413018
You could still do a co-op shooter.
Fuck, now I want Vermintide/L4D with cute anime girls.

>>10413079
She just said she doesn't want to limit herself to TakaMori and that things will be a bit different from now on but also better.

>>10413240
You'd probably just get anime girl Apex, if current market trends are any indication.

>>10413079
I really shouldn’t spoon feed you, but that’s a cute Ame, so whatever.
TakaMori isn’t ending, Kiara just doesn’t want it to be her sole ship. She made a point to state that she and Mori are still friends and will collab in the future, and also said on Twitter that people can still draw whatever pairings they like, including Takamori.
It’s basically just Kiara saying no more kayfabe, we’re going to be genuine from now on.

>>10413331
It is remarkably similar rationale to 6 of the 8 divorces I have witnessed. Not taken part in personally, mind you. Mostly of friends and relatives. Complete with "things will be better now".

>>10413385
Except marriages are real

>>10413385
Kiara said she won't divorce Mori because they were never married.

>>10412938
>>10413018
I know of SAO: Fatal Bullet, as far as shooters with cute girls go, but that game was kinda the usual anime tie-in trash, from what I've seen.

>>10409575
Outlast is a shit game. Not because it's "intense", it's just shit overall. A good horror game is Silent Hill 2 for example. It's sad that Holo members will never play it (well, maybe except Korone).

>>10413079
Rrat: Calli threatened to walk if management didn't agree to a "no sekuhara from the menhera trendsbian shitbird" clause in her new contract

>>10413464
It’s too bad the biggest franchise that could pull off a cute girl shooter, Girls Frontline, is verboten.

>>10413100
I think there was this one (Chinese?) TPS where you could play busty tacticool babes fighting robots with bulletime and completely oversaturated Colours and lensflares
But it was, sigh sci-fi

>>10413337
>implying that's a bad thing
>implying Apex is not anime as fuck already

Maybe this one? She shut down Darkest Dungeon for the graphics otherwise that one could have worked as well.
Never paid much attention, but maybe something like DayZ or others were zombies are just around and you can just sneak by, even had multiplayer and base building .
Or do a minecraft adventure map, the mobs in the game scare her plenty already.

>>10413491
That rrat is stillborn. Mori is liking more TakaMori fanart than Kiara on twitter and she is way too worried about everything to ask for something like that in a contract.

KFPbros what is it like to live when your thread turns into a war zone at least once a week?

>>10413079
Ignore >>10413363 it's a coping deadbrap, probably the same faggot who was saying Takamori is alive and well shortly before Kiara killed it.

She's made it as obvious as she can without making schizos fartbraps like >>10413363 commit suicide that there won't be TakaMori content in the future, just regular collabs and regular interactions as friends.
She couldn't name the primary reasons, but one thing she could mention was that she wants to not be restrained by the TakaMori dynamic when interacting with other girls (TL note: this means "I want to simp for Ame without retarded deadbraps screaming NTR")

As for the primary reason, it's because she got over Mori. Emotionally she is no longer attached to the ship, and this naturally changed her perspective. Now the reasons why the ship sucks are all too clear to her.

>>10413725
a slow month?
no really her break days without a stream are usually the worst

>>10413725
Most KFP are in /hlgg/, I just stop by every once and while to try leave a decent post so we look like a trash heap instead of a dumpster fire.

>>10413725
I use /hlgg/ more than this thread anyways, might just switch over to permanently using global.

>>10413079
She didn’t say she wants to end it. She hinted that she didn’t want to play the lovesick clingy gf anymore so Takamori collabs in the future are gonna be better. Still encourages fan art and doesn’t mind shipping etc but obviously discourages dramafags. It’s similar to Ame’s speech on Amesame way back I guess.

>>10413725
like people who are proud to live in Detroit

But for real I stopped giving a fuck and just filter now, actually pretty easy

>>10413754
I'll give a (You) since nobody else will take your post seriously

>>10413725
I only hang out in global

>>10410731
Now I'm not a fan of takamori either but let's not pretend Kiara wasn't the one who benefitted way more than Mori from the whole thing. Neither am I going to pretend Kiara bears no responsibility for how awkward the ship was most of of the time (outside of their off-collabs and recent ones), she was pushing hard on an introvert and a socially awkward one at that; it's obvious since she started backing off that their collabs became a lot more enjoyable. inb4 i'm called an egg because most of you can't recognize some of her faults (that she's corrected for the most part) and only want to lay blame fully on others. I love her but kfp can be the worst and I'm only saying this because the same thing may just happen when some of ametori dumbasses are gonna push too hard on it and this gets awkward too and you guys are gonna be shitting on ame next.

>>10413222
BEYOND BASED

>>10413725
This is the anti thread, if you want actual KFPs come hang out in global

>>10413725
I mostly hang out in the global thread since split sometimes become a ceaspool of newfags pretending to be old fags, and at least global have the /jp/ people and actually make eggs seethes instead of replying to the damm bait

>>10414666
You should tell that to KFPtwitter as well.

>TakaMori Porn: :D
>TakaMori: >:(

>>10413754
>KFP seething because their own fanbase is Kiara's anti LMAO
No wonder she makes bait topics for the last week
>EN2 ignoring her which is good for EN2 success
>Inferiority with some EN holos
>Now this
>Lets wait for her breakdown in a few days

>>10414948
>discordtranny still can't greentext properly
One day you'll fit in.

>>10414988
LMAO seems like you know how different site work anon
>Nice doxxing yourself retard KFP

>>10415017
>IESLB

>>10415042
>Keep seething LMAO
Go back to Discord since you know their style KFP retard LOL

>>10414666
Everyone who's not retarded knows that Kiara is stubborn as fuck, everyone deyning that isn't a KFP, that is a good and bad thing, when it comes to things like Takamori or other things she worked on it, she will try the impossible to make it work, that's why moments like Ryza 1 or NIer Automata are so good, and things like SS or MC Cursed stream happens, she's like that, and it's cute, amazing and frustrating.

The big problem with Takamori is that they're not good actors to make it work, and Kiara actually made it part of the content by actually drawing her stuffs, or making a song with members, etc. I don't know what the future hold but i don't see her to shipping hard Ame since it's turning natural mutual admiration and waiting to have a fun time more than make it official, and also, finally Kiara can be more than just Calli's sidekick joke, you can thank Takamori Schizo Twitter niggers for that.

>Adds LMAO on every reply
Pretty sure it's the same faggot I saw on a few egg threads, holy cringe. Just ignore him.

>>10415212
Discordtrannies just keep embarrassing themselves by sending these newfags

>>10413725
Someone said before that KFP general is 50% schizo KFP seething over Kiara's flaws and demanding that she changes as a person completely so she can be popular, and 50% schizo KFP who overdosed on gosling images and think Kiara dindunuffin wrong ever and unironically want her to be less popular so they can be the last KFP.

Of course eggs mingle inbetween pretending to be either side.

>>10414830
>at least global have the /jp/ people and actually make eggs seethes instead of replying to the damm bait
Do people actually believe this? I'm in both threads and global KFPs take bait just as much. The only difference is that in global there are enough anons from other fanbases and discussion topics to move the thread along, so the few eggs cant derail the thread as easily.

>>10415316
I have never seen the second 50% you speak about. The 2-3 schizos that made up the first 50% fucked off a long time ago

>>10415443
>I have never seen the second 50% you speak about.
>t. >>10397369

>>10415124
>Kiara is stubborn as fuck
Yes, yes she is and most of the time that's a great thing. However in this instance I'm talking about how she did not know her limits, which is something a lot of kfp refuse to even acknowledge and is only interested in laying the blame fully on others when she bears at least some responsibility i.e. Mori for the failings of takamori, all the other myth girls for awkward collabs. She's so much better now and it's way better to acknowledge past faults so we can recognize her improvements. Not to mention the unnecessary animosity towards her friends it could stir up just because people are only interested in victimizing Kiara all the time and think that she can do absolutely no wrong. I doubt Kiara would like to be victimized by her fans.

>>10391579
I didnt know Kiara could use D4C

>>10415443
He means the voices in his head and people who tell him shut up

>>10415568
That would mean you agree with what that guy was replying to which was a post trying to pass off an opinion as a fact. That anon clearly just sperged out but characterizing half the thread as one anon is beyond retarded

>>10415865
Those kind of people pop in here all the time, newfag. The same retards who claim "there is nothing wrong with her fast food outfit it looks great" and think she's an S+ tier singer.

>>10415768
>nationalistic
>talks about her country a lot
>has lots of die hard followers
>has a recognizable catchphrase
>grew up without a father figure
>has done filthy acts at a reasonable price in the past
>wants to be the first in everything
>egotistical
Uh... KFPbros...?

>>10415212
He was already spamming another thread before coming here. Guess he wants to brag on discord look at all the posts I made. Sad really, but the reasonable kfp guy is sadder.

>>10416014
>The same retards who claim "there is nothing wrong with her fast food outfit it looks great" and think she's an S+ tier singer.
Which are opinions and not something that objectively means people here want her to be less popular retard.

>>10414666
This isn't such a brave unpopular opinion like you think it is. Most people >here have little love lost for takamori and are rather glad its over, just as they can admit that Kiara herself was a large part of why it didn't "work". We "criticize" her all the time (why, just above you is a long reply chain wishing for her to make better game choices, a common topic), the difference is that we do it with positive intentions, and it's easy to distinguish that from negative eggs who just want to tear her down.

As for Ametori, I'll take it with this >>10412046
For it to not get "awkward" you just need to set the ground rules early. Ame did that reasonably well by shutting down Gurameschizos before it got out of hand, so they can have their interactions without faggots in chat making too much of a drama out of it. Takamori didn't, and tried to be a "serious, established" ship right out of the gate, and yes, that's also on Kiara's fault as well, she encouraged it instead and played into it too much (whether that's out of a desire to stick to their "character plan" they set before debut, or just out of an imagined obligation to pander ongoing to the takamori fans they had cultivated), so when it became too much to handle and there wasn't any juice left in it (ie. the potential of the ship was long played out and dried up, versus the fan expectations who continue bugging her about it), she had to course-correct too late and finally put it out of its misery.
A similar thing, on a much smaller scale, also happened with the "bottom left" meme, remember? She started it, played into it for a while (so yeah, if you want to call that "her fault", sure there it is), but the retardo chat can't help themselves to spam a joke that was just meant for special occasions into the ground indiscriminately, then you'll have to call them out to reign in their faggotry and look like a party pooper or a hypocrite for doing it (or at least that's what eggs try to make it into with their baitposts). If there's a "Kiara-Problem" in there, it's probably that she could do a better job of managing her memes (ie. what memes get started in the first place, what memes get nipped in the bud right away) and not feel like she has to play into stuff for longer than she likes just out of a sense of appeasement to retard fans until it finally becomes so odious that she has to put her foot down anyway.

>>10416282
She didn't start it Bottom Left. The chart was Mori's idea and she immediately complained about being put there when it was happening and even begged them to put her slightly higher and you could tell she was seething hard over it afterwards and still tried to escape it like during the Ame Clubhouse collab when she tried to claim this proves they aren't bottom left.

But the meme stuck around anyway and after it was obvious that it wasn't going away she tried to embrace it simply as a cope, but deep down she always hated it. Eventually one day she snapped because she was on her period that day or some shit. Despite what she claims it's not solely about chat spamming it too much, she really does hate the meme but can tolerate it or pretend to like it as long as chat isn't too obnoxious about it.

Luckily for her, KFP is too afraid now to spam bottom left even in situations that call for it. Chimkn is someone who can't handle being poked fun at very well because she's insecure.

>>10416282
I feel like she's had a confidence boost lately making her more willing to send things to the farm. People are having a go at Bae for laying into chat, but good for fucking her telling chat straight no I don't like those jokes. Kiara needs to be confident in telling fans what she wants, isn't the same as ignoring chat but fans themselves aren't reliable at steering the ship and too often does she defer or question her own judgement.

>>10416528
That's a lot of armchair psychology friendo

>>10416643
>I'm a newfag who didn't watch old streams and didn't listen to what Kiara actually said
Ok

>>10416528
>someone who can't handle being poked fun at very well because she's insecure
Without this the concern troll would be mostly good. Slipping into direct insults makes it obvious, you don't just start being vile yo someone you want to improve.

>>10416686
Take meds you pathetic fuck.

>>10416668
I'm not saying you're new. I'm saying that making a mountain out of nothing makes you look retarded. People spamming the meme got annoying so she addressed it and said when it'd be okay to use it. That's it. Making up some other bullshit about what she was thinking just makes you sound like a schizo

>>10416786
Yeah it's not like she literally, explicitly said "I never really agreed with it and still don't" about Bottom Left or anything. No no, Kiara is lying, whatever makes the schizo (you) feel better about his newfaggotry.

>>10416282
Now, I absolutely agree with 90% of what you said. I'm well aware there's plenty of us willing to criticize her for certain things. The only reason I'm saying anything is because collab/pairing failings is and was rarely one of them because most people here place her on a pedestal as a beacon of some social genius. She behaves extrovertedly and most of the time that's enough to make things work with whoever she's with, but nuances can be lost on her. I've seen at most a couple of anons anons spread out over months who've acknowledged that Kiara even bears some responsibility for those things. The rest are more interested in victimizing her for whatever reason. She had an issue (though this usually comes from a good place and just her being overzealous) with pushing too hard/not reading the air well at times/not realizing that different partners require adjustments in behavior, and she's corrected a lot of this lately. Kiara is and always will be my favorite, but I'm as unity as she is and it's annoying to see people only blaming others. Just in this thread I've seen people shitting on every single myth girl except Ame already. I'm not even really criticizing Kiara at this point because she's doing great and handling things in a much better way lately; I'm criticizing the part of kfp who are more willing to shit on our oshi's friends than to acknowledge any potential past failings.

>>10416826
*and went on length to explain how implicitly insulting it is to call her stupid (the left part of Bottom Left).

But no she totally loves the meme and the ONLY issue is people spamming it too much.

>>10416826
>>10416866
>"I never really agreed with it and still don't"
>saying this means she's literally seething so hard about it
You need medication

>>10416906
Keep damage controlling your newfaggotry and moving goalposts please.

>>10416934
Hey man whatever keeps those voices in your head happy

>>10416959
>w-w-whatever *sniffles*

>>10416991
Here, have a tissue with you last (You)

>>10414666
TakaMori was something they obviously agreed upon before debut and for better or worse became a defining feature of HoloEN.
Now that EN is more than just Myth it's easier to let go but before that it was worth preserving. Sadly Kiara put in too much effort to keep it alive while Mori... is Mori.

>>10416643
That's a very polite way of saying "unhinged rambling".

New thread doko?

I'm so ready for the karaoke, time for something new. That said, do you agree with her plan to focus mostly on previously unsung songs for archived karaoke?
I still like to hear her sing stuff like Lion even if it's overused.

>>10417752
I'm ready for the "why didn't she practice" timeloop

>>10417752
I'm honestly ok with it. We have seen with several holos that singing the same thing over and over gets boring fast.
It also means there will be fewer archived karaoke and since those seem to stress her out more than unarchived ones that's fine in my book.
Now when it comes to unarchived karaoke she should sing the same songs more often especially those she struggles with in order to learn them like those Korean songs she started. Seeing progress between streams in these would be nice.

Let the Takamori discussion die with this thread please.

>>10409575
Resident Evil 4. It's not really that scary, which is perfect for Kiara

>>10418065
You know it ain't gonna stop at this thread.

New thread up:
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