/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

sex mamatori

>>10365016
Kiara was literally built for anal. Prove me wrong. You can't.

GOD I LOVE TAKANASHI KIARA

>>10365076
This is true

I want mamatori to fist me while I skull fuck kiara so its like mamatori is punching her daughter in the face through me.

>>10365016
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Oof, DDOS attacks begins.

>>10365138
KFP will N E V E R. Even if Kiara threatened to shorten the stream every single time they did.

>>10365138
Can I reply to you?

>>10365176
sure

>>10365138
thanks for the warning, I was almost about to do just that.

I really like the way this path looks. Really nice looking design

>>10365333
wasnt sold on the pattern at first, but it really works on a larger scale

>>10365076
She has confirmed on multiple occasions she has a trash compactor ass

>>10365422
So, it's full of garbage?

>>10365138
I only do it at the end of the thread.

>>10365455
I'm KFP and I troll my oshii.

>>10365493
Egg here. AMA

Bio-Me

>>10365455
That's probably the best time to get it out of your system

New costume thing: I hope it's something semi-official looking so she can use it for Holotalks and i never have to see abomination that is default outfit

>>10365539
Bio-me-me-me

>>10365580
The theme looks too fancy for a talkshow host outfit.

>>10365640
I'm still memeing that it's just a chicken suit given the little frills over the head looking like a chicken/roosters crown.

>>10365580
it still has the tiny hat, but it's Kiara so who knows how it turns out

>>10365580
The silhouette makes the "hair" look frizzled and all over the place. And I can already feel that tiny hat could be the design's major debuff. But at least her outfit sticks out the most right?

How do I fuck Kiara bros?

>>10365751
You may as well assume all headwear is removable. You should be more concerned about the clothing and hairstyle itself.

>>10366297
Bring lasagna and cake. Make that dump truck ass more dump truck and she'll be happy.
Also lots of listening to her ramble, agreeing with her weird takes, and consistent compliments because she's high maitanance as fuck and has dad issues.

Where does the wholesome part of the KFP fanbase gather? This place is pretty icky

Mamatori demands we GAS the populace.

These MC is pretty comfy. Glad Morrison finally said hi to mamatori.

Council is all probably sleeping right now, huh.

>>10366713
hlgg

Why does chikin voice manage to make me both hard and amused at the same time

>There's so much to do!
She says as she runs around in circles not doing anything

>>10367866
That's just the classic Kiara maneuver. Her frantic scramblings are the best.

She would probably be less exhausted if she had somebody in VC she could talk with, ofc Mamatori is helping Kiara a lot but she can't really have a proper conversation with her right now.

That makes me think, in the most recent Minecraft streams was somebody just building alone without other holo joining in?

>>10368365
Now that you mention it, it's always Kiara the one who is alone on Minecraft

>>10368619
The EN JP/AU girls are going to bed when Kiara plays MC and the NA girls haven't woken up yet so she's always alone

>>10368619
It really makes you think.

>>10368663
Ina and Fauna had played MC in these hours, would love one of them to join in but they probably don't want to because it's Mamatori collab.

>Purge the useless Kiara

>>10368619
It really sucks but once the portal is live. There's more chances for interaction since the JP timezone overlaps with Kiara.

>>10369410
Looking forward to those. She can chat with them in Japanese and tell us ehat's happening in English.

>>10369410
How will this work, can she still chat with the JPs even if she is on the EN side and the others on the JP side?

>Some things have changed...
rrats?

>>10370254
no dance obviously means Yuna is out
who knows what else

Ah, I'm guessing Yuna was originally working on that Halloween cover MV but got overwhelmed with that and her other work

>>10370325
Here's my evidence
https://twitter.com/Yunaree/status/1441049607065190400?s=19

I love Kiara

>xmas tree decorating with Kiara
dragging it in while she's excited on the side
she gets to select what goes on the tree and it will all be girly stuff
sitting before the tree with a blanket on cold nights with her

fuck that hurt

>>10370516
Regardless whether she was actually involved with the MV project or not, hope she does rebalance work and life.

>>10370986
Like oshi like fan artist it seems

>>10370832
Cute, but you forgot negotiating for a LOTR based tree topper

You know, Kiara singing idol shit actually sounds good without the idol music in the background.

I was afk, does anyone have a timestamp for when Kiara started singing for later?

>>10372193
About 4 hours and 45 minutes in, maybe a few minutes later.

>>10372193
like 6-8 minutes back?
we are currently segment at 19000 per the video stats
those work as timestamps and are in seconds in the first place

>uses the baby pacifier in her streams

She's into baby play.

>Kiara calling Mori the fuck out
Based.
So glad TakaMori is dead.

>>10372751
It's not gonna die if you keep bringing it up like this anon. There was literally a great Takamori moment in the MC stream as well

Just dropping off of more pictures of our oshi

I WILL NOT LIVE IN THE POD
I WILL NOT BUY THE AIR
AND I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS

>>10373493
HARDER MOMMY KIARA

>shilling veganism
Kiara...

I WILL LIVE IN THE KFP HAPPY FUN CUBE
I WILL BUY THE KIARA RECYCLED AIR
AND I WILL EAT THE KFP MYSTERY PROTEIN

YOU HEARD IT HERE! FUCK TAKAMORI! PUT IT IN THE GROUND!

I joined KFP right at the end of the ship.

TAKAMORI IS DEAD CONFIRMED

Now you schizos can finally shut up once and for all

If you have nothing prepared to say, don't say anything. This fumbling around for words is CRINGE

HALLELUJAH >WE DID IT

Reminder that the fags who said that /u/schizo's don't exist don't realize how many people are hounding her about this shit. Fuck TakaMori schizos.

Thank god she finally said it explicitly. It's been obvious she's been trying to reverse course for a while.

>Takamori officially kill
I told you Ametori is real

fuck yeah it's dead

>>10373666
This, but unironically.

>>10372837
laugh at this faggot

>>10374361
Well anyone paying attention wouldn't be surprised. She's not going to actively dissuade it, but nor will she actively encourage it.

I'm at work goddamn. Did she talk about takamori during the post Minecraft zatsu?

>>10374435
Takamori kill

>>10373591
I am all for it but she has already cooked non-vegan food in her streams so her shilling veganism feels fake.
You can eat whatever you want but don't preach water and drink wine.

>>10374491
she talks about healthy eating however her lifestyle is anything but....hopefully it gets better

>>10374435
Boils down to
>Limits interaction.
>Pidgenholes her character story
You know, shitheads who won't shut up about it any moment Mori is around.

Never before have I been more frustrated at Kiara being ESL .

>STRAWBERRY ENEMA DANKESCHÖN!

Oh no, stop now Kiara!

>>10365422
Not that anin but i have no idea what that means, i seen her roomate her ass is small and firm and i like small and firm asses, so i would do anal with her.

>>10374544
At least some baby steps in the right direction, home cooking, getting the new chair and trying to stabilize a sleep schedule. Biggest absence is some regular exercise.

I think she might had a moment similar to Amelia where she though alot of people only think her as Mori's gf and nothing else and she doesn't want to be know as only that

>>10374544
Welp, I guess KFP is no place for vegan nor healthy food.

>>10374662
Makes sense given she's been talking to Ame more. Also makes sense that they'd use eachother to get out of that pigeonhole.
Who would have guess someone doesn't want to be known as a 1-note character to most who don't watch.

>>10374662
Nah she didn't.
TakaMori died simply on the fact that Mori is a lovable autistic weirdo, but still a autistic weirdo.
You can't make this work like that.
Mori loves sweet-talking about Kiara in her own member streams, but that doesn't do much for Kiara when she barely ever talks to 'her'.
The ship is gonna survive btw. It takes a while after the streamers moved on before people stop making content about it, and TakaMori still has a lot of inertia.

>kiara endorses tipping

DROPPED

>>10374846
Tips in Europe are to show your appreciation not to make sure people have an actual income. Waiters have a proper income by default.

>>10374846
desu "non-Americans don't tip" is rather exaggerated. Here inn Germany people tip food delivery and in restaurants unless they're poorfags (in which case, why are they in ordering food).

That said you don't need to worry about people spitting in your food or assaulting you if you dare not tip.

>>10374846
>he doesn’t live in a country where you pay 5% just for the tableware you use and service ON TOP of the 10% tip AND normal bill

>>10374298
Finally I can be a full time Mori anti.

I had a dream that I sexually assaulted Kiara at a con yesterday and I've felt weirdly guilty ever since

>>10374769
>She talks about not wanting to be tied to Mori
>Fags still forcibly tie her to Mori.
I get that there's still people who will push it because that might be how they got into Kiara or Mori, but how can you not see her talking about how she doesn't want it to be a major component of her forward facing character and go "WELL TOO BAD".
Proof you're here mainly for the shit ship instead of loving Kiara and her choice of who she wants to tease and ship with. Fuck you.

>>10374846
>>10374922

In the lower side of america we also tip as a good gesture and thanking to whoever bring the food, it's just a gift.

>>10374561
>>10374662
I have been thinking about this since months now so I cannot overstate how relieved I am that she can say this openly now.
So how fast is she going to backtrack and Acknowledge the Takamori anniversary by the twittercrowd, that self-inserts as the kid of a lesbian and a bisexual „dad“ because their real parents don’t accept them

>>10374922
Happy Merkeltag.

>>10374999
>Fags still forcibly tie her to Mori.
People making TakaMori content isn't "forcing" or "tying" Kiara to Mori. Take your meds.

>>10374979
I dreamed I went to highschool with IRyS and we were frens.

>>10365057
How would sex with Mamatori feel like?

I just hope this somehow makes her fuck off with her overlap autism. Literally nobody gives a shit except her

>>10375255
Reverse rape

>>10374999
>but how can you not see her talking about how she doesn't want it to be a major component of her forward facing character and go "WELL TOO BAD".
The fuck are you on about? I said no such thing. I said people are gonna keep making that content for a while. Thats it, its a statement of fact. I was never into TakaMori to begin with, though mostly because I didn't like the dynamic.
>Proof you're here mainly for the shit ship instead of loving Kiara and her choice of who she wants to tease and ship with. Fuck you.
You need to drink some tea and calm down retard. People who like TakaMori don't care less about Kiara and making content about it isn't doing her some horrible injustice.

>>10375335
If you're the anon I replied to, totally misread your post like a dipshit. My bad. It's fine for content to be made, my issue is when it starts pushing into the streams all the time by people mentioning Mori tangentially through whatever meme reference they want to make.

>>10374662
My personal rrat is that she simply grew out of TakaMori and doesn't have feelings anymore for Mori. Her leaping onto Ame probably had something to do with it, it's simply too much of a coincidence that it happened at the same time that she stopped lusting over Mori.

It's very difficult for me not to think Kiara was genuinely emotionally invested in these ships, considering the alternative is her being Lex Luthor and the best actress in the world (which she absolutely isn't). The most telling thing is that her behavior in regards to Mori already changed quite a while ago, she hasn't been simping her for some time now. That's why all of us could already tell the ship was dying fast. If the shipping wasn't guided by her actual feelings then she would have just continued shilling TakaMori even though she personally wasn't attached to it anymore... And again, there is the fact that she "coincidentally" started crushing hard on Ame around the same time.

Personally, when she said "Calli likes Gura more than me, oh well let's all just stay single" I knew 100% Takamori was dead. Reason being that she said it without any sadness in her voice, which would have never been possible half a year ago. She simply got over Mori, so her preferring the company of other girls doesn't hurt her anymore.

All in all, a good ending because the girl she simps for now is actually nice to her and flirts back.

>>10375289
Her biggest overlap worry was always Ina.
The reasons being obvious and understandable.

>>10375196
thats fine, if she's careful enough milking a bit of drama should be in the playbook, but I think she has seen too many antis to give it try.
the important part is that she said it out loud and can start to play around without the established ship as a chain around the ankle

>>10374662
Or that with the Minecraft portal opening up she wants to escape the Takamori stigma JP may have of her and put herself out there for more collabs and tete moments.

>>10375246
Lucky bastard
I'd much rather have a dream like that than the one I had

>>10375421
>It's very difficult for me not to think Kiara was genuinely emotionally invested in these ships
Kiara was invested in it, even if only as a mutual project. You can tell she is bitter about it, this is not her tiptoing around Mamaloni's feelings.
But we saw this coming miles away since she moved away from Japan she started bitching more and more about Mori being aloof and distant. Something she found cool back in Japan because it made her feel special when she could meet her and have fun together, but obviously became a lot less kakkoi when she realised Mori just can't make herself give a shit even if she wants to.

>>10375439
Yes Kiara's love of jazz, talent with wind instruments, love of terrible jokes and intellectualism heavily overlap with Ina.

>>10375583
Overlap in timeslots, not sure how you read it as anything else.

Hey, twitter shitstorm on the Hinotori post managed to kill Takamori, thank you /u/schizos Kiara can actually have a collab without niggers breaking the rule 4 everytime Kiara does something.

The only bad thing is, we're going to get dramafags.

>>10374846
Her membership and superchat income is basically tipping. At least that is what I as a German think.

>>10375760
Superchat is tipping, membership is paying for content.

>>10374846
Pay the tips your ungrateful burger

>>10375750
>The only bad thing is, we're going to get dramafags.
It's a damp squib as Mori came to see her today. In Minecraft no less which she hates playing.

>>10375544
>>10375421
Yeah, I think the ship was causing her legitimate pain. Like obviously Takamori itself was kayfabe, but I think she was invested in the ship in some way and that it hurt that she was investing so many more emotional resources into their collabs than Mori seemed to. And plus, people would always make "KIARA IN SHAMBLES" jokes the moment Mori said anything positive to anybody, it's not hard to imagine why she's been feeling like crap about the whole thing.
Speaking of Mori, I wonder if she even noticed that Kiara started quietly withdrawing from the ship? I remember moments where Mori would try to get something started like in the Usaken Festival and Bleach, and even the twitter stuff with deliberately trying to make Kiara jealous. I don't watch Mori, so I have no idea if she has noticed if anything was wrong.

>>10375421
>It's very difficult for me not to think Kiara was genuinely emotionally invested in these ships
Well this is how it goes:
>Lonely white girl in nipland
>Wanted to cut loose ends
>Mentally prepares for the next 30 years of wageslaving
>Plans to close a chapter of her life
>Can’t even do that bc Everything is closed
…
>Meets another white girl with immediately similar job challenge and hardships to overcome
>Takamori.exe

Mori was a Coping mechanism
The moving arc was a cold shower
Ever since then a slow and steady climb
And now we are here

>>10375942
>I wonder if she even noticed that Kiara started quietly withdrawing from the ship?
Definitely. And she feels bad about it in her own autistic way. Not so much the ship, but knowing she basically let Kiara down.

>>10375981
Does that make Ame the rebound?

>Mori animates intro, Hinotori MV, and debut video for Kiara for free
>Puts out a collab cover on her channel
>Constantly talks her up outside of collabs so people know tsundere stuff is an act
MoRI doESnt AcTuALly cARe aBoUT KiArA

>>10375942
>Yeah, I think the ship was causing her legitimate pain.
Precisely why I'm glad it's dead, it was like watching a battered housewife run back to her abusive man every time.
Rot in hell garbage ship

>>10376111
>look at all those things Mori did when Kiara was in her life
Yeah, thats why TakaMori was alive and well back then. Anyway, its not like they aren't still friends but Mori is someone who has no problem ghosting others for days. Kiara is not the only one who remarked on Mori having a tendency to literally vanish from all channels for prolonged times.
Mori, for all her qualities and her admitted loyalty to her friends, is not a teamplayer.

>>10375750
>Hey, twitter shitstorm on the Hinotori post managed to kill Takamori
qrd?

>>10376083
I guess… the Rebound-Rebound?
Since Mori was the original rebound she is now the second rebound so I guess
rebound^2
But technically that would require Kiara engaging and first so not sure about that

>>10375921
Ok, MEDS OFF
Did Mori went into Mamatori as forced shit? She got plenty of times to get into Mamatori during the previous stream.

>>10376363
Insofar that she knew how it would look if she didn't. We know from old TakaMori streams she already knew Mamatori offscreen.

>>10376083
Kind of? Kiara is a horndog, but she's fickle. Sure she likes Ame but not like she's seriously in love with her or something. She's just blindly following her emotions, like always, there's nothing even remotely serious behind her Ame admiration. And she already has a gf, or at least she said so before.

>>10376273
https://twitter.com/AsmaPain/status/1440030078553890826 someone post this shit, people said "No, what the fuck" and /u/schizos went crazy as always, and those niggers never untagged there so after she did this post after Bae's collab https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1441471606090522626

>>10375421
You're correct in saying the writing was on the wall for some time now but I think the actual crux of this boils down to Mori not reciprocating Kiara when she was in full on thirst-mode. If Mori was less frigid (and autistic) I can only assume this wouldn't have happened.

>>10376187
In fact you can extend this to many other things, like Mori never being around to watch events like the concerts or kohai debuts. How many times has it been just Kiara, Ina, Gura and Ame hanging out in voice to watch these things, with Mori OF COURSE being fucking absent? Did Mori bother to call in for Watame's birthday? No, of course not. She almost forgot about Ame's birthday, scheduled a stream OVER Kiara's birthday and only realized and moved it mere hours before it happened. It's the same story every time.

Even under the assumption that she does give a shit and is too much of an autist to show it, the end result is the same as that of an uncaring Sasuke douche.

She's never been taught that these things like reaching out to your friends when they do major things isn't some fucking optional shit you can do when you feel like it, it's basic human decency and part of the obligatory politeness. I can just imagine she's the type of person who has never wished anyone a happy birthday all her life because all her friendships are the most superficial shit imaginable ("if he/she's not working on a project with me, he/she doesn't exist" kind of thing) She stands out so much behaving the way she does.

>>10374254
>TAKAMORI IS DEAD CONFIRME
Yea but pretty sure they are good friends, the whole Takamore thingy just went to fast and I feel like they both almore feel forced to act on it everytime they collad.

So imo it's fine, think they will have better collabs from now on.

>>10376363
>She got plenty of times
Nope. Mori is busy. Always, incredibly busy. I'm surprised she showed up in MC to say hi. It was just out of courtesy, everyone but her met Mamatori at that point, and it's the last time she was on MC server, she had to be there for her and she dropped out right after.
t. Deadbeat

>>10376083
I'mma be serious, no.
I think (or at least hope) Kiara has learned from the fiasco of "Takamori" and won't try to push an "established" ship anymore (in the sense of, pre-planned, manufactured right down to the lore and shit). She already said she wants to branch out and be able to interact with all kinds of members, in various ways (which of course also involves some lighthearted flirting, because that's standard for this business), but she's probably not looking to lock herself down in any new serious "ship" anymore, because just like she said, that only emboldens the /u/schizos who bug her when she's having any interaction with someone who's not her designated ship partner, and she's tired of that pigeonhole.

Also I can't imagine Ame ever agreeing to anything more serious than just light noncommittal flirting, which is probably for the best to keep things fun and out of drama territory. She doesn't like being seen as "in a ship", remember how she shut down the schizos who took Gurame too serious and tried to force that shit too hard on her?

>>10376590
>She's never been taught that these things like reaching out to your friends when they do major things isn't some fucking optional shit you can do when you feel like it
I think its overblowing it by making Mori out to be some horrible person.
Mori is a channer. Literally a typical user of this site. She is not a people person and she is used to doing her own things in her own pace, with only casual acquintances somewhere in the periphery of her existence she meets twice a month at most.
This is very new and kinda stressful for her. She does, I feel, try her best to make up for it.

>>10376557
Eh, moving arc would still have happened
Although, Maybe if Takamori would have survived just a couple months more until Japan opens up again it could have been saved

https://streamable.com/agblax

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1441888589122400259?s=20
This should keep the shippers somewhat happy

>>10376548
Thanks I saw the second tweet, but didnt know the context before. I dont care about gay people, but the twitter idiots, who peddle that shit unprompted are the worst. I hope this was the actual trigger to get rid of it. Kiara probably knows her most loyal and especially paying audience are males.

>>10376548
>LGBT shit
>/u/schizos
Always funny to see how little people here know about that board.

>>10377120
/u/schizo has just become the new "yurifag". It has pretty much nothing to do with /u/.

I'm just devastated, not because the whole shipping thing, like shit I couldn't fucking care less.
Kiara basically admitted to thousands of people live on stream how disappointed and heartbroken (not in a romantic way of course) she's been, after realizing she can never truly connect with someone who had drastically different youth from her own, experienced an entirely different culture, even with all the time they spent together and sharing their own war stories in nippon.
No wonder she straight up said Mori (and Watson) got a long better with Gura, they connect with each other way easier growing up consuming the same culture, and she desperately need something like that or else she just feels she can never have a special bond with anyone in EN.
Sometimes I wonder if she ever regretted taking the path she had taken in the past, doesn't seem possible she could find some English speaking idol otaku autists besides Pomu at this point.

>>10377006
Oi, as a male I like her lusting over other females.
I dont need my Chickenwife talking about BL or fanfiction after an action movie in a watchalong.

>>10377273
funni chikin woman say alfonso sane

Actual yurifag here, this is only good news. Mori never gave a shit about the pairing from the start, it was a millstone around Kiara's neck and this opens Kiara up to be her thirsty self toward whichever other Holomems she wants, and she will continue thirsting mightily for video game girls as ToA proves. This is a healthy and needed development.

>>10377273
good thing Nene, Kanata and even Peko are other idolheads.

>>10376750
Ame was seriously having a big problem of being "Gura's sidekick" instead of being Ame, a huge reason why she also toned down Amesame.

>>10377006
>Kiara probably knows her most loyal and especially paying audience are males.
Yeah and those same people love her lusting over other girls, because we can relate.

To equal out some of the inherent bitter aftertaste of the average Takamori timeloop, although this one is anything but average.
In the name of Unity I just wanted to say that I like deadbeats and respect their go-getter attitude

>>10377273
I think they did connect though. It was just that Mori has the hedgehog problem and Kiara very obviously needs a shit-tonne of affection to remain sated. So even though the connection was there, it could not be sustained.

>>10376590
> I can just imagine she's the type of person who has never wished anyone a happy birthday all her life because all her friendships are the most superficial shit imaginable ("if he/she's not working on a project with me, he/she doesn't exist"
She's is literally me. Makes sense that she's my oshi.
As that kind of person let me explain the reasoning behind this behavior.
You see, if someone forgets to wish me a happy birthday - I don't give a shit, not distracting me with this is actually preferable. If someone I know says "lets hang out sometime" and forgets about me for 2-3 years, then shows up out of nowhere to talk - sure, let's talk, I'll pick up the convo like we were talking just yesterday, we're still friends, nothing changed. Don't call me to ask me how was my day - it was the same as always, like it was yesterday, or a week ago, or a year ago, sun rose then it went down, nothing worth talking about happened. Call me when you need something, talk to me when you have something substantial to say. Don't make small talk with me, I'm not interested in words, get to the point, what do you want - let's do it. That kind of thinking.
And because I think like that, I naturally assume everyone else thinks like that.

>>10377516
As much as some bitter schizos try to make it that, this is not Mori-hate or deadbeat-hate.
Its simply a autistic loner and a high maintanance otaku where never gonna make a long distance relationship work.

Seen more larping schizos here than anyone that upset at the whole deal desu

>>10377516
Can you explain what go getter attitude means in the context of deadbeats? Do you mean them being inspired to do their reps of various kinds because of Mori or what?

>>10377273
She didn't admit anything besides "I wanna get shipped with other people" but her reasons are kinda obvious if you watch her enough.

Unfortunately "opposites attract" has always been a meme. People need similarities to get along, TakaMori was mostly a friendship forged by circumstance.

Anyway, TakoTori has amazing chemistry, and AmeTori has amazing shipping interactions, albeit the ship will always be kinda superficial since they don't actually know each other much.

I wonder what will be Mori's reaction

>>10377534
Ah, the classic 'treat others as you wish to be treated, but nobody wants to be treated the way you want to be'

>>10377273
>who had drastically different youth from her own
That was never the problem. The entire thing that bonded them together was their similar backstory, both having left the nest very early trying to "make it" in Japan.

>>10376590
>Did Mori bother to call in for Watame's birthday? No, of course not.
oh look, the schizo already latched onto something new because he was suffering a drought
completely forgot to mention that Watame brought up knowing Mori was prepping for her karaoke, which means they talked about the totsu in private
also purposefully ignores the fact Mori's schedule tends to be the first one to be finalized and she adjusts to others later simply due to that fact

I guess that doesn't fit what the voices in his head are screaming

>>10377530
>It was just that Mori has the hedgehog problem and Kiara very obviously needs a shit-tonne of affection to remain sated. So even though the connection was there, it could not be sustained.
It couldn't be sustained because their bond incredibly lacked substance, like the only shit they actually bonded over can never be said publicly, and it's something that just gets worse if you keep dwelling over it. Bonding over hardship harnesses mutual respect, but hardly anything more unfortunately.

>/hlgg/ spreading the rrat that Mamaloni has already known Takamori is kill for weeks now because Kiara privately told her
If she doesn't have a meltdown tomorrow I'm going to believe this.

>>10377850
I guess you can also read
>>10377864

>>10377869
Mamaloni has known for a while. Its not like Kiara hasn't said the same thing with less words for weeks now.

>>10377006
Oh, she absolutely knows that, she has a lot of females paypigs but mostly of them are not /u/schzos, like G D, she just want Kiara to be happy.

>>10377853
>let me tell you about excuse #482618 for Mori's cuntish behavior #872619
Don't care, plus Hololive is only 5% of her life.

>>10377667
Yes. Mori is genuinely inspiring and her own workaholic attitude infects the fanbase. A lot of deadbeats picked up gym, drawing and music reps. In anniversary SC reading streams there were a ton of messages like "I was in a very dark, but since then I've become a changed man, all because you were there for me" or "I quit my shit job and now following my dream, because you inspire me" or "I got a dream job and a promotion, thank you for brightening my life"

I guess a question that could be asked now, is could there have been any other outcome or was this always going to be the conclusion to takamori?

>>10377667
Yeah they seem to really embrace the „do it for her“ mentality
I really respect that

>>10378039
zzzzz

>>10378075
>In anniversary SC reading streams there were a ton of messages like "I was in a very dark, but since then I've become a changed man, all because you were there for me" or "I quit my shit job and now following my dream, because you inspire me" or "I got a dream job and a promotion, thank you for brightening my life"
Thats literally every single Holo's anniversary SCs.
>>10378098
Weird question, what factor would you change to make it work? Its a combination of their respective personalities, the distance and the fact pretty much all Vtuber "ships" end sooner or later.

>>10378098
There could have been the outcome that Kiara continues being miserable because she never gave up on Mori.

Thankfully Ame saved her from that fate.

Let me dream for a moment:
Kiara does her usual thing and just like Watame earlier she gets a dm from a cool senpai. It's an invite to collab, nothing much to organize just show up and done. So they start the the greeting segment and after Kiara introduces herself, Sora takes over and goes all "I finally get to have this cute chicken all to myself and I'll have my revenge for holotalk!"

>>10377850
Also the fact that they were both completely isolated by lockdown measures. Kiara probably moreso than Mori needed that friendship and once she started talking to and occasionally hanging out with her during the pre-debut, the attention-starved tenchou latched on. On top of that, they both were going through similar experiences because
>First EN gen
>Collab bans.
>Tech problems moreso for Kiara.
>Dealing with stress related to the job.
are all reasons they could get close in friendship terms during the first few months. It's obvious the both of them wanted to play into the trope, and now they don't so I hope the retards who won't shut up about Takamori in the chat just chill a little after this.
It'll probably end up the same way the 'BOTTOM LEFT' shit did. KFP will relax on bringing it up and the occasional gray name will get drowned out when they try to force her attention to it in chat.

>>10378098
Kiara is too needy, Mori is too autistic,we were never going to get an ending where TakaMori ship is well and alive when they reunite in Japan.

>>10377850
>>10377864
Cultural differences and mismatching personalities/interests do matter, in the long run.
Yes, they bonded by circumstance (two mid twenties white girls chasing their dreams in Japan, and (before Holo) not really succeeding), but that's the problem with such circumstantial connections, if you don't have any deeper similarities that just this circumstance, the bond will weaken as soon as the circumstance is over, and this is what happened as they grew physically distant (the closeness in Japan could facilitate RL meetings which helped paper over some cracks). Because let's be real, aside from their work connection, what could they really be talking casually to each other in discord (do you see them actually hanging out in discord off-stream? I don't, even if Mori weren't so busy and Kiara's timezones wouldn't fuck her over)? Kiara's interests (like for example Idols or Cosplay etc.) are rather opposite to Mori's (J-Rap or whatever), and them growing up in different continents means they won't have a lot of shared common cultural references (like Mori has with her other NA girls, especially Gura who she really seems to vibe with, and it's apparent from many group collabs where Kiara doesn't "get" some kind of reference that it makes her feel like the odd one out), which is also an important factor in determining which people gravitate more naturally to each other.

>>10377820
"That's taihen dude"

>>10378075
Honestly it would have withered away with Mori being mori and just the sheer distance. We would've gotten maybe bi yearly revivals with Kiara visiting every few months but they were always just friends who met through work and bonded over some mutual hardships. The ship was probably weighting down Kiara in the same way "Bottom Left" was aka she doesn't hate it but doesn't want to define herself around it.

We all know that Kiara browses Reddit, Twitter and maybe even /here/ so i think she just got pissed off and saddened that every time she mentioned Mori or Mori had a teetee moment with other girl, the comments said that Kiara is forcing the ship, Mori doesn't like it and she has better chemistry with all the other girls. I remember a Reddit post after Mori/Milky collab that got like 8k upvotes titled "That was a good Takamori funeral stream". It does not surprise me that she doesn't want to see that type of comments anymore.

>>10376927
I hear alot of I's in that, I I I ME ME ME, what a selfish cunt!

Months ago when she was in Japan I asked her to choose betwern Pekora, Calli and her chat, and Calli and chat tied for number 1 for a moment before she placed Calli number 1 and Chat number 2
I wonder what's her ranking now

>>10378895
Actually she said my name, Chad, not chat
I was plowing her at that time, sorry you had to find out that way

>>10378648
100% Yes like I've said
>>10377273
>>10377864
Their bond just so badly lacked substance, with everything else working against them, it's easy to see why they started to drift apart.

>>10377820
>Kindergarten teacher voice
"Kusotori should do what makes her happy!"
>recorder toot

>>10378098
Basically, yes. It was doomed from the start, they are both not good enough actors to pull of that play they imagined (idk, lovable clingy vs tsundere? Kiara just came off as desperate at times, and Mori as abrasive) in their heads as they planned this shit, and there was never going to be any satisfying "resolution" to this shit anyway (whatever that could be - it's not like they were gonna marry, so they would've probably stuck forever in this odious timeloop of "haha Kiara came on too strong, haha Mori brushed her away angrily, nth rinse and repeat").

Maaaybe if Kiara could've been able to live in Japan permanently, they could've made it work much better over time, or for longer, even if just for the fact that being physically in the same place and able to interact RL with each other had always produced the "best" moments, and mitigated both of their personality failings/mismatches (Kiara's need for affirmation, Mori's autistic loner tendencies) at bit because they would've interacted more (even if just forced by circumstance) instead of being let grown distant.
But whatever, what's done is done, I'm happy that it cooled off anyway because it was more of a detriment than a benefit in the long run, and I'm glad they can hopefully open up some more varied interactions (with other people, and hell even with each other) in the future without having to hold up that failing play act dragging them down anymore.

>>10376590
>like Mori never being around to watch events like the concerts or kohai debuts
Mori was traveling to visit family while already being in the states at the same time Council was debuting. You would know if you actually watched her instead of coming to schizo threadreader conclusions. Afterwards, she appeared in the chat of nearly all the Council streams for as long as she was still in the states. I didn't read the rest of your post because you're a retard.

forget all of this
SIMS IS KILL

>>10378648
People tend to forget how different was the 2000's for NA and the rest of the world, for Europe, otaku culture was a big niche until this very day, you were the weird guy in the class so unless you were a hardcore otaku, you drop it since "It was for kid", something similar happens in Latam. Kiara's tastes came from the games that Mamatori played and also exposure of anime culture that in the 2000's did a great job to make the 1994 to 1996 kids have interest in idols, anime and manga. In the NA, that shit was everyday thing, you can being a ironic weeb and don't be the weird one.

Kiara's sphere of culture is very different from the Western USA sphere of culture in term of anime and games, even music, they might have some matches but after that? Nah.

>>10379179
Oh poor busy Mori, waah waah. It's not like Ame was on her vacation and still phoned into voice chat or anything.

>>10379140
Thats the worst possible thing she could say and its 100% believable

NTA who typed this but gonna bump old post anyway.
>>2214808
From >>2216746
>I feel the same. I don't see any praises when she does something good but I always see tens of shitposts after she makes a single non-positive comment. There are tons of shitty narratives that doesn't even make sense circulating through this board everyday. Some of them are recycled dead rrats and others are just blatant lies. Just look at this stream. Kiara made a call that lasted for 10 minutes (which is nowhere close to 30-40 minutes that antis wished for) and It was unironically the best call of Mori Birthday stream. But nooooo, no one cares if she does something kino. No one cares how she sets the tone of the fucking birthday call-ins. All I see in the previous 5 threads are "Kiara spoke for too long", "Kiara said 'I was naked before I called you too' haha look at her being a jealous menhera.", "Kiara's call was the worst", "Takobros hate Kiara just like their oshi but they are pretending to like her because they are very kind." and some random "I don't care about Kiara, I just hate KFP" posts. Funny thing is, they don't get even three (You)s with their pathetic rrats and shitposts. The problem is, even though I know how mentally handicapped these undeveloped lifeforms are, I still feel very bad because Kiara probably reads these threads. If she doesn't, she still reads things that are being talked here because some newfags breach containment. And of course there is this takamori relationship which has become a burden on both of these girls but mostly Kiara. I really don't think Kiara is or ever was in love with Mori but we are at a point where her artists and most of her fanbase are autistic lesbos who unironically think Mori is a cool tsundere lesbian. They are no different then girls that self-insert as the MC in teen dramas. They are self-inserting as Kiara - a talented and outgoing gigastacy which they will never be- and dream about a relationship with Mori - a dorky, cool and talented autist which they will never meet -. I just can't keep reading these threads outside of solo Kiara and Ina streams. I can't even read fucking twitter with KFPlesbos going around posting "Dad did this lmao she is so cute, mom when are you going to roleplay as a horny and dumb powerbottom(left lol) so I can self-insert as you and cum on my bedsheets as I imagine Mori fingering me real good." or something like that. It's just... Uhhh... I legit need my pills right now.

>>10379302
This hold true for most of Europe, but Germany and France were and still are some of the biggest market for manga and anime.

>>10379266
Oh yeah, now that reminds me.
Her Sims streams were basically Takamori schizopandering prime.
I wonder what'll happen to those in the future.
No more Sims streams?
Sims streams but without forcing too much shipping shit in it? (I don't think you can have a Sims stream WITHOUT the streamer wanting to make some of their puppets fuck, it's basically the whole point of the game)
Or will she still throw takamorifags a bone in her Sims streams and keep up the direction?

Takamori Twitter before today:
*anything remotely Mori connected happens on Kiaras stream*
>THEY ARE
>Ooga booga Callie fucks tenchou with a banana
> compilation clips of the tinyest out-of-contex Moments imaginable
Now:
*Kiara kills Takamori*
>well there are complex emotions at play here, we should never overreact in face of such a statement, we will never know exactly what it how she meant that and how she truly felt about Callie. Whatever the case, rushed conclusion won’t help anyone right now so we should be carful and rational with the information at hand

Sorry, I had to get the leddit out of my mind

At one point during today's stream, Kiara made a big fuss about something Mamatori typed in chat, and when I finally had the chance to tab over, Mamatori was apologizing if she offended anyone.

I can't remember when it happened, a couple hours in. Anyone know what I'm talking about and have the timestamp?

>>10379266
Holy shit, anon, you are genius.

>>10379140
How would that be a bad thing at all? That's a completely valid and healthy response.
Nevermind the fact that this whole thing is just a timeloop.
>>10379266
Unfortunately yes. Between the "wedding stream" leaving little room to continue anything meaningful, Gura building her own world in Sims 4, and now this, that entire save game is realistically cursed.
Not the worst thing though. What content we would get out of it we pretty much already did.

>>10379266
Imagine if she does the divorce arc

>>10379314
On vacation and visiting family. As in, if Council hadn't delayed their debuts by a day, she would have had to miss them entirely because she was traveling, not just sitting on her ass.

Meant to reply to >>10379323 from >>10379667

>>10379607
At the same time i feel bad for the schizos i can't lie to myself that the reaction and cope has been fucking hilarious

>>10379639
I think she said something like she fisted the golem, but she meant to say that she was hitting it. She's truly Kiara's mom.

>>10379477
She's Austrian anon, and even with that, they're garbage as markets, mostly of the material was ahoy'd it.

Jesus, and the twitter schizos were setting up a takamori event to happen on the 29th aswell.

>>10379639
Mamatori said "fisted" when trying to say that she killed golem with her bare hands, that's it.

>>10379717
Now come up with a convenient excuse for all the other 5 trillion times Mori wasn't there for an event.

>>10379584
After the Henry Stickmin vs Sims poll to replace Diablo stream she wrote that she is planning to play Sims in the future.

>>10379607
You know how shippers are, even reality punching them in the face won't stop them from deluding themselves.

Ame killed GurAme too and that didn't stop the schizos from /hlgg/

>>10379266
>Clara literally disintegrating away

>>10379746
It's a non-response anon, basically doesn't say anything and just avoids it, which to be fair is the intelligent thing to do, however mori has used this fucking response so many times when asked anything kiara related

>>10376052
>Definitely. And she feels bad about it in her own autistic way. Not so much the ship, but knowing she basically let Kiara down.
I haven't seen any inkling of this at all. What are you talking about?

>>10379584
Holy fuck I just realized that might be the primary reason she doesn't want to play Sims anymore

>>10379717
Stop replying to the schizo you nigger
No one is giving him(you)a excep you

>>10379639
Mamatori wrote something like "I fisted the golem" and chat went crazy. Kiara joked about it, nothing serious

>>10379831
Wait what? Why?
...Is it the anniversary of their first collab or smth, like the Pekomoon thing? If so jesus christ WHAT A DUNK.

>>10380142
1st anniversary of the „official“ shipname

bros... /hlgg/ is calling us a bunch of drama queens....

Honestly as long as this takamori dead thing brings positive things like an actual mori collab without being awkward about saying stuff and kiara actually talking more to other hololive members without dealing with "haha ntr" bullshit then this is for the better

>>10380142
The day when Takamori was decided as the ship name.

>>10380323
Yes, and?

>>10379831
Fucking kek

>>10380323
Good, you fucking split KFP deserve it.
Have some goddamn self respect, stop taking bait, and quit being fucking faggots.
I swear, none of you were here a year ago, or you wouldn’t be such soft little bitches.

>>10380323
what? they still have time to snoop around here?
dont they have teamates sucking each other off and Chumjars to fill?

>>10380512
Not really, it was just one deadbeat who posted about it, and other people were some people agreeing with him, but others were shitting on him for bringing the splits up.

From that short section in the Yakuza playthrough, I think Kiara has more of a natural aptitude for fighting games than Calli does. To be honest, Calli's natural fighting game instinct suck. Kiara somehow has a better instinctive grasp of tempo. With the death of Takamori, I think the most interesting route Kiara could go is to learn fighting games and crush Calli in a bunch of them so we can have the actual relationship a reaper and a phoenix should have: bitter rivals.

>>10380491
It does feel like there's a lot of newfag KFP in here who weren't here for the /jp/ days.

>>10380659
She already crushed her Shadowverse dreams anon, no need to twist the knife

>>10379798
>>10379834
>>10380073
Hah! Thanks, that's hilarious.

>>10379693
Gura goes to college, takamori gets divorced and Clara develops daddy issues. What a trip en.

>>10380512
Eh, the Post mostly misrepresented the truth but what do you expect from (you). farmers
>>10380677
Well duh

>>10380920
>getting fisted by mamatori…

>>10380800
She needs to keep going, is all I'm saying. Pull a Perfect Legend on Calli in the most uncomfortable Guilty Gear Strive stream ever. It'll be great for ratings, and hilarious to boot.

>>10379584
Just out of curiosity, can you make a KFP restaurant in sims? It would be fun to see Kiara managing the employees.

>>10380800
>She already crushed her Shadowverse dreams
This will never stop being funny to me

>>10378098
If the coof had been over this summer Kiara's return to Japan might have prolonged it.
They were a lot better together in person so if Kiara's plan of visiting Japan every few months would have worked they could have been a "couple" when she is in Japan and just friends otherwise. Some hot and cold shit going on in the relationship.
But with coof staying at least for another year it has been cold for too long and froze to death.

>>10380323
I still remember the move over here and how we were the only split holding it's own against the flood of shitposts and antis while the other hid in the general. For that alone I refuse to give it up, even if the main thread is often the better place.

>>10381041
I've seen a couple pros like LK say they could (and would, if asked) teach enough to Calli in a day for her to never lose to her viewers again.
If Kiara took that offer instead she could probably wipe the floor with Calli after only a day's worth of time investment and without ever streaming it, would be pretty fucking funny.

>>10380659
I've found that Kiara seems to have some aptitude for various game genres, but only if she's relaxed and not distracted (she panics easily, then everything goes to shit).
For example, she of course said she's averse to / not interested in shooters, but from what little shooting segment she played in A Way Out, she was having fun and in the zone and playing rather well (for a beginner), until she got overwhelmed/distracted.
It really makes me think sometimes goddamnit chicken get over your self-pidgeonholing as wanting to be "the JRPG vtuber" and branch out and explore a bit, you might like what you find. Yes I know, "how to get Kiara to try different games" is a common timeloop topic here, but I'll forever hold a candle to that FPS dream.
But yeah, like you said, the little fighting game segment in Yakuza showed there could be something there, and in It Takes Two she surprised me by acing some rather tough platforming sections (but then again, we also had the Mario arc, to see that this was probably just a fluke).

>>10381588
I feel like she would really like the Uncharted series, especially 2 and onwards, if she set the difficulty to easy. The set pieces are really fun and the banter between characters is entertaining.

>>10381588
I was quite surprised how decent she got at Mario Kart through off-stream practice too. And every once in a while she does really well against bosses too.

But I don't think she will ever make use of that potential, she is just too obsessed with her "le entertainment" meme. And who knows, maybe she even deluded herself into thinking people want to see her fail at games constantly.

>>10380659
>and crush Calli in a bunch of them so we can have the actual relationship a reaper and a phoenix should have: bitter rivals.
And this would be kino in theory, but highly uncomfortable in praxis because Mori doesn't take being crushed very well.

>>10381818
having another holo backseat might help
the JPs have done a bunch for horror stuff and seeing them might push Kiara to try

>>10381972
>might push Kiara to try
Hahahahaha

Jerking off to the futa takamori art doesn't feel right anymore...

If Waterring is still watching streams his next full EN set might finally have Kiara getting properly dicked!

>>10381588

I would love it if she would add a segment on her channel, "Let's try something I would never play if it wasn't a Holo".
My advice to her will always be to use Hololive as much as possible to experience new things and interact with people outside the micro bubble she has lived in for the last 10 years.

>>10381818
I don't think it's so much that she artificially gimps herself to play worse than she really is "for the content" or whatever. She's not trying to be DSP (she probably doesn't even know who that is, I think), and we've seen her dealing with failure and it's not very entertaining ("sufferkino" memes aside, I don't think she looks too fondly back on her worst moments and thinks that this is the kind of entertainment she wants to deliver).

What's holding her back is more her (lacking self-belief), both the things she thinks she's not good at ("I'm not good at [whatever genre that is not JRPG, let's just say FPS for example], so I'm not even gonna try") and the things she thinks her audience only want to see from her (she probably wants to brand herself as the "JRPG" girl, which is fine and all, but lets be honest she's not that great gameplaywise at them either and not really all that knowledgeable about the whole genre in general, she's basically just in it for the cute anime girls)

>>10379584
Nah, it's pretty easy to reboot the Sims series. Since the new EN members are finally here, she recreates them in the game and watches the trainwreck unfolding while providing commentary, which is unironically great content. Then when she feels like it's time to get back to gen 1, all she has to do is to claim that she doesn't feel satisfied with her previous characters because gen 2 turned out to be better (regardless if that's true or not), remake them and... whoops, IRyS should be included and we obviously can't leave Chonkers and Smoothie out, let's just delete Clara. Everyone wins, except the schizoids.

>>10379667
>A timeloop
I really hate when people use this word to talk about something that's been discussed here a lot but is naturally brought up again because the streamer (Kiara in this case) talked about it adding a new piece to the discussion. Maybe it's my automatic assumption of it being a negative term and a way to dismiss the discussion, but it's just so stupid to say 'We already talked about this, why is everyone talking about it again!'.

>>10380659
We can't have rival kayfab because the fanbase is genuinely too fucking autistic.

>>10382529
We could have gotten a fun, pseudoantagonistic relationship between Moona and Kiara, but that was murdered by people who can't understand kayfabe

>>10382529
Nah I'm sure it would be fine, like imagine if Kiara and Moona had a fun rivalry over who was Pekoras right hand girl! Wouldn't that be fun and not get anyone mad!

>>10382529
It's a pity that Cover (and most Vtuber companies, really) can't learn from wrestling how to run a shoot rivalry without people getting legit direct death threats. Maybe we just need to import more people from /pw/.

>>10381588
>until she got overwhelmed/distracted.
>acing some rather tough platforming sections
I used to be surprised by her when she would take on a boss and do really well, but now I actually think she's just fine at games with a normal difficulty curve. It makes sense, she's been gaming since the early oughts, so she has practice.
It's just when she panics she doesn't play as well as she could.
I'd be interested to see if, over the next year, she works on reducing the amount of panic in games. I could see her keeping it up because content, but also some of her best streams are just her taking on a hard task and winning.

Diablo is our best chance to resurrect tenchou's gamer spirit, nostalgia and good feedback can give her more confidence, don't forget to send her support when she plays.

>>10382438
>She's not trying to be DSP
Can you spoonfeed "DSP". A google search turns up nothing.

>>10383213
It will be a rocky road.
Solo streams should be fine but when she plays with Mamatori she will probably hide behind her.
But EN collabs could turn her into a leader of sorts depending on the skill level of her partner(s).
Botan could go either way (if it actually happens in the first place); Kiara might hide behind her or try to represent EN and give it her all.

>>10383316
DarksydePhil.

Kiara killed Takamori because Ame didn't like it. They are now in a committed relationship.

>>10382529
Well, that and, let's be honest, we also didn't really have much of the necessary personell in EN before to make this work convincingly (i.e. people who can dish out good bantz, people who can take bantz well and retort). It has gotten better over time with gen1 finally finding some chemistry, and gen2 bringing new varieties in, but the first few months were painful sometimes. Since this is the Kiara thread, I'm sure many remember how many times she tried to liven up group collabs, only for her attempts to fall flat with her wet blanket genmates, and earning her a worse reputation than if she just had more extroverted talkers to bounce off of and respond, so she doesn't have to carry conversations alone (which can come off as domineering).

Also as for kayfabe rivalries, I don't know. As much fun as the thought would be if you imagine it working well, in reality it most likely wouldn't work as well as one thinks. We just came out of a manufactured kayfabe relationship, and we saw how well that (didn't) worked. You'd need two special people to pull that off convincingly, and I don't know if we have them in EN (maybe with gen2, I don't know them well enough yet, but some of their senpai-kohai interactions have shown the potential for fun teasing, it helps that some of them can actually bantz back).

And yeah, beyond all of that hangs always the specter of having to dead with a retarded fanbase who can't take the joke and make serious drama out of it, thus you have to abort any fun prematurely before it gets out of hand.

>>10375513
Consider self reflection and meditation desu ne

>>10382933
It's not a Cover problem, it's socially inept viewer base that cannot figure out what banter is most of the time

>>10382529
>the fanbase is genuinely too fucking autistic.
>>10382933
>Maybe we just need to import more people from /pw/
I don't watch anything /pw/ cares about, but you might be right in a twisted sort of way.

I was lurking for some of the Huke minecraft arc, and I feel like each vtuber (whether holomem or not) is having to figure out how much to borrow (or not) from idol culture without alienating most of their fanbase and before the unhealthy bits of idol culture poison the well.
>inb4 EN / western vtubers were a mistake
>inb4 but my seiso idols!!!!
I enjoy Kiara's idol tangents, and I generally enjoy the songs, no problems there. But the chat / twitter / /vt/ crowd howling about "no boyfriends!" and "my oshi is my wife!" gets old quick, and in turn limits the ways that our oshi(s) can do cool things on the internet.

>>10383455
While I would welcome her playing with Botan (even if just for the fact that it's a paring I haven't seen before and would be interested in seeing how their dynamic would go, given that lalion is a pretty different personality to her usual collab partners, and it's always good to see Kiara branching out and meeting new people), I believe she has mentioned playing Diable with some mystery EN who has indicated an interest in the game.

>>10382609
>>10382636
I will never forgive Southeast Asia

>>10383316
DarkSidePhil.
There's a really funny moment in that guys history where he played Persona 3 all the way through on stream, got to the final boss after hours and hours and hours, and his chat kept giving him hints on how to kill the boss because he was struggling. He ended up wiping from a mass attack because he didn't heal properly and rage quit the game and stream, and never played it again.
Part of me wanted Kiara to do that with Skyward Sword just because it would have been too perfect a comparison, but it's fine that she got to beat it.

>>10383895
I still cannot comprehend why the fuck does anime woman playing video games on stream needs to have all of this idol bs behind

>>10383919
That has to be Ina, right?

Duo collab for a few weeks would be so kino, but I've learned not to get my hopes up when it comes to Kiara and collabing anymore.

>>10383919
I almost feel like Fauna would be the one interested in Diablo. (Can't remember if Kiara specifically said they were within Myth when she was chatting about it on stream)

>>10383886
Man, have you seen the viewerbase of professional wrestling? "socially inept viewer base" is not a great excuse.

>>10379924
Shipping is fine. Cute bullshit art being made from interactions between the Holo's is just fluff and fun. The issue comes when people starr bugging her about TakaMori unprovoked (i.e. she doesn't lead into the discussion) on twitter or try to steer conversation towards it while she's streaming and something super lightly connected to Mori comes on the screen. Look at any of the non-main ships and you'll see what I mean. Kiara mentions Ame? People talk about AmeTori for a minute. Ina mentions Gura? People talk about it for a minute.
Now look at Takamori.
>Kiara posts anything on Twitter and it's a bunch of
>Oh I bet your wife Mori...
>Does Mori know?
This is what pisses me off about it.

>>10384026
I would bet on Fauna or Kronii, if it was Ina she would mention.

>>10379974
did you not watch the stream

>>10384320
Which stream are you talking about? I don't think there's evidence of Mori feeling all that guilty in the most recent one.

>>10384446
today's stream. you would never see mori react the way she reacted to what mamatori said back when kiara was in japan. she's at least a bit self conscious about it.

>>10384002
Tbf, that's not just an "idol" specific issue, but more or less something any female streamer has to deal with from an audience of parasocially invested simps.
The japs have just managed to formalize and commercialize this dynamic (you give her money, in exchange we'll do nothing that would upset your fantasy that this girl is your personal imaginary girlfriend, so you can happily continue giving her money) already decades ago via the idol industry, and the fact that Hololive is a japanese operation in the first place, which draws heavily from those roots and resultingly also shares some of their rules and expectations on behavior etc.

love

>>10384124
That, and also alphabet-people always trying to sneak in their politics into shit, making takamori out to be some kind of gay icon, or projecting their mom&dad fantasies on them because their own families didn't love their tranny asses enough or whatever.
Whatever Kiara's personal ideologies, she knows at least that Cover isn't too hot on being associated with political statements and she's professional enough to keep that shit off her streams and probably also doesn't want to see her characters' twitter timeline swamped in this shit any more than already.

>>10384537
Yes i agree, but it feels like this problem is way more proliferate and worse when they have the idol thing attached to them instead of just being considered a streamer with an avatar

>>10385078
I hear about this kind of shit with vtubers way more than other female content creators

On a more lighthearted topic, anybody else get recommendations for videos about Tales of Luminaria?
Couldn't tell you jack-shit about it outside of "it's a Tales of game, and might be a mobile title" but Bamco videos about it are showing up on my Kiara-simp YT account so I assume there's a filler title in the works for once the Tales of Arise hype dies down a bit.

I have not seen any genuine anger out anyone regarding Kiaras feelings outside the few Kiara antis on this board and some Mori antis.

>>10385954
Isn't that a good thing?

>>10385304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2IP-UMJ2ik
This seems pretty comprehensive, and is straight from the horses mouth. I'm not too hot for Tales mobiles anyway. Played around with Crestoria for a while, but it didn't feel right.

>>10385954
Well, why would there be any anger? Most people >here weren't all too hot on takamori anyway, and from what I've read most KFP and deadbeats on this board are rather relieved that it's finally over (and people who aren't either don't care anyway). That a few antis try (as usual) to twist her words to manufacture some controversy is nothing new, but it doesn't work (not that it every really does, most people have caught on to their pathetic tricks by now and just cum on them like the clowns they are) because nothing what she said was all that controversial, and again, most people rather agree with her (in that it's better to retire takamori).
I'm sure on twatter you could also find some overinvested /u/schizos seething, but you'd have to look for it, and from my cursory browse it rather looks like most peoples reaction is rather understanding.

>>10385208
No surprise, Vtubers appeal to weebs specifically.

Now that Takamori is more or less dead let's have a moment of silence for this ship.......... Now that's over with any word on the Diablo servers?

>>10385304
I'm pretty sure gacha tales games are just the Tales team's main source of income. They've had 4 of them, 1 lasted 4 years, and the rest are all still going (the oldest being 7 years old).

>>10379831
AMAZING JOB KIARA, no, really i love this shit, shippers are fucking schizos

Just got back home, how was the Minecraft stream? Did Kiara really kill Takamori?

>>10387081
I've been playing all day and all yesterday. They're fine, it's just that she needs to fully reschedule and can't just do it on a whim.

God, I'm watching through Henry Stickman right now and was reminded of how perfectly Five Night's At Freddy's would completely fuck up Kiara. A game with jump-scares, spooky sounds, faces in the dark, and tense do or die moments. She would be a fucking mess after streaming it.

>>10387399
More or Less.

>>10387564
RIP Has anyone checked on Mamaloni?

>>10387449
She wouldn't make it past night 1.

>>10387399
Was during the sc, she was asked about it and then stumbled her words for like 15 minutes to more or less say: "things happens, I don't know."

>>10387635
>>10387399
https://youtu.be/9nfZOVbtPD0?t=21363
Here, so that you can hear it straight from Kiara, and so that you know what people mean when they say it's dead

>>10387635
Oh I know she wouldn't but I feel like she'd would actually be a crying, blubbering mess by the time she stopped playing, and wouldn't be hamming it up at all.

>>10387635
>>10387449
Does Cover would even let then stream FNAF again? What with the disaster and what not.

Also that would be a first, never see anyone fail on night 1.

>>10365016
Kiara's butt smell.

>>10386756
Yeah I'm not complaining, just surprised that the most if not all the major artist /u/schizos were like, that's fine.

>>10388062
what does it smell like

>>10379639
https://youtu.be/9nfZOVbtPD0?t=7472

>>10388325
Sour ketchup, beef stew, and sweat.

>>10388325
>just surprised that the most if not all the major artist /u/schizos were like, that's fine.
They're fine because it's not like they aren't friends anymore. They're still going to have collabs in the future. Kiara is still going most likely going to flirt with Mori. And they're still going to have "teetee" moments. And besides, Kiara already made it clear that its the start of a "new" Takamori.

rrat: she IS HERE and read how we hate takamori and decided to kill it

>>10388325
>just surprised that the most if not all the major artist /u/schizos were like, that's fine.
It's almost as though MOST yuri fans aren't actually schizos and know when something is obviously fake. On the contrary, being constantly fed manufactured yuribait has made us suspicious and quick to dismiss anything that doesn't measure up.

Honestly, even though its clear Kiara and Mori are friends, its kinda sad how hurt and lonely she feels because of Mori, its clear she is upset and trying to make the best out of it. I hope that her becoming better friends with everyone soothes her heart and that someone travels to see her and give her the hug she deserves.

>>10387953
I'm pretty sure the only way to lose on night 1 is to not move at all, which triggers Foxy at around 5 AM.

>>10388808
I've seen people say that Kiara has a sort of platonic crush on Mori before, I feel like that makes sense.

I think Kiara expected takamori to be a bit of spice to add flavour to both of their characters.
She was then taken aback and annoyed by people eating whole spoonfuls of the spice by itself and wanting nothing else, so she decided to take it off the menu.

Good for her taking control of her character like that, and not giving in to a vocal minority of her audience.

>>10388955
It does. Unlike her, Mori has actually done what she tried and failed to do - go to Japan and "make it", at least as far as being able to live on her artistry. She's got to have towering respect and admiration for that.

>>10366297
with a rape pill or something, human sexuality creeps her out I'm 99% sure she would be too embarrased to get naked even in front of her love interest let alone look at your junk or actually doing something with it, can you imagine Kiara doing something like a fellatio without puking and/or fainting? She doesn't undress even in front of a doctor.

>>10366297
Be a hot woman with a little bit of confidence. That's literally all it would take.

>>10389275
>can you imagine Kiara doing something like a fellatio without puking and/or fainting?
No, but it's because she's not actually into men, rather than the mental hoops you're trying to jump through to make it about sexuality generally.

>>10389275
She asked Gura if she could shit on her face a while back, so I think just about everything is on the table for Kiara.

>>10379831
It’s literally just them planning to post art at a specific date. You’re the schizos for caring more about it than the girls.

>>10388325
>Yeah I'm not complaining, just surprised that the most if not all the major artist /u/schizos were like, that's fine.
Actually, artist are ok with it since they're not retarded, but the lowers ranks of Takamori, schizo lesbians/trannies where crying, the rest of KFP was celebrating we will get good ships like Takotori, Ametori, Harem's route and some even put Kiara x Happiness. And deadbeats always never give a fuck about it since they knew their boi was not giving a fuck

>>10388955
I think she just feels disappointed because she feels like she is more invested in Mori than Mori in her. Even as a friend. Kiara tried for a long time to show how special Mori is to her, but Mori never really did the same. When Mori did the bare minimum, preparing a rap a few minutes before calling Kiara, it was enough to make Kiara extremely emotional and cry because she was thirsty for validation and care. I think she just doesn't want Mori holding that weight over her life when she never felt secure enough about Mori's feelings towards her. For Kiara, Mori will always be one of the most important people that passed through her life because she was her pillar in Japan during her toughest times and though Mori once proclaimed the same, Kiara doesn't trust her because Mori is fickle in her relationships and keeps them at a distance.

New thread in a few minutes.

>>10388808
She hasn't been upset about Mori in a long time. She's been over her for months.

New thread up:
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>>10391579
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>>10391449
July wasn't that long ago, anon. And even after july she made sad comments like "Mori likes Gura more than she liked me".

>>10390679
I can't help but think that she secretly felt the same way /vt/ did when Mori had her collab with that one guy from TT, where she actually seemed to care about the collab around the same time she was treating Kiara collabs like they were a burden. That was 3 months ago, and if you consider the timetable, that was around the time Kiara stopped trying to make things work. Remember that by the time of the Usaken Summer Festival, she was already acting disinterested and briefly humored Mori's attempts to be romantic before carrying on. And even earlier than that, during the actual Shadowverse Tournament, she flirted more with Fay than she did with Mori herself; Fay didn't even realize that Takamori was a "thing" at that point.