/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>10347049
It doesn't

It doesn't because I don't. I hide the thumbnail as soon as it appears, and if such a stream is planned in advance, I temporarily disable notifications for that channel.

>>10347049
It doesn't, they're fun. Especially if the guy gets teased constantly.

>>10347049
It doesn't. Co-ed collabs are usually amazing. Bonniver is a shitheel though, don't know how people can stand him.

>>10347049
This doesn't bother anyone, let the bros shit talk eachother.

I wish my oshi would collab with males from time to time, it would add more variety.

>>10347271
Bonni is based as fuck. Dont know what you're on about.

>>10347049
This duo was probably the most....friendly(?) I have watched. They seem like actual friends rather than just collab partners.

>>10347551
How to say you're new to Vtubing without actually saying it.

>>10347049
It's not the collab that bothers me It's the collab beggars and shippers, have you seen these idiots in Morikka collab ? And and Arc stars, I can't handle that

>>10347049
this guy represents all of >us

>>10347049
it only bothers insecure fags

>>10347767
What he said

>>10347643
ogey

>>10347049
It doesn't, (you) begging about it bothers me though.

SHE IS SUPPOSE TO BE MINE! MINE!!!! NOT HIS! MINE!!!!

>>10347049
I don't mind male chuubas collabs
now male e-celebs? thats where I draw the line

>>10347105
Are you actually retarded? Brain damage? Please seek some help

>>10347428
only watched clips or got in late and never watched the 1st bon selen apex

>>10347049
It doesn't, Carbomb trolling Evil Cat is always fun.

>>10348419
Let the guy do whatever he wants with his time, don’t be a faggot

Women are cute
Men are cringe
simple as

>>10348932
How long until you chop your dick off?

Their sole job is offering the illusion of female companionship to lonely men. Why would lonely men want male competition introduced into the fantasy when the whole reason they're there is to escape that? Why would they stick around to watch their surrogate girlfriend be closer with another man than they'll ever be when they can just get a new one with a few clicks?

>>10349465
is this entertaining for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKkzRCp6gs8

>>10347049
It doesn't, in fact I wish they happened more. Male/female interactions have this kind of flirtatious quality that I enjoy.

>>10347049
Bad picture for the OP
but its mostly Gachikois that hate male-female collab.

>>10347049
>Why does it bother you so much to watch a male-female collab?
Image unrelated, I suspect?
Nobody cares about this anymore.

>>10350074
>>10347710
When did he change his avatar to look like some horrible bootleg Castlevania shit?
His design works specifically because it strikes a balance between overblown ikemen and down to earth.
Making the hair blue and giving it bedroom eyes reduces it to the level of basic.

>>10349465
This is why Hololive is a cancer killing the industry. Dumbfuck like you think GFE cancer is a standard not abnormally.

>>10350523
Being a female streamer is inherently GFE. That's what 99% of the audience is watching for and if it wasn't for that they'd never be given the time of day over actually skilled/charismatic male streamers.

>>10351353
That's stupid, no one is watching Sasaki for GFE experience. And that's just one example. Sure many do use their influence over men as their big selling point, but not definitely not 99%

>>10351353
That's what most people assume so they bring the bare minimum to the table and expect people to eat it up. A lot of vtubers hired by the big agencies seem to only provide GFE as their single quality, no real entertainment value or originality beyond that. And then there's hololive who on top of that popularized idolfag mentality in the medium too.

>>10349465
They're literally just streamers, dude. It's not that deep.

>>10351353
The thing that strikes me about this attitude though is that its not like this at all for facecam female vtubers. They can collab with males freely even publicly living together in the same house as other male streamers and still retain a fanbase of loyal male viewers. Nobody is there saying they shouldn't collab with males so they don't hurt their gachikoi fans feelings and they still pull in great views and make tons of money.

>>10352256
It's almost like it's a different culture with a different audience or something.

>>10352358
But this dude is talking about female streamers full stop. Not just vtubers. The majority of male viewers of female streamers are perfectly fine with females interacting with males heavily its just this one weird subset of one specific streaming sub-culture that has a problem with it.

>>10347049
If you fan of nijisanji you shouldn't feel that way

>>10350457
Its from his getcha anniversary art video from his wave

>>10347049
i started watching idols in 2004 and i didnt understand what the big deal was back then either, turns out it's just another latent form of possessive feelings from chattel slavery

>>10351898
>popularized idolfag mentality
>idolfag
You can't even tell the difference between idolfagging and purityfagging.

Unvirgins and cucks need to gtfo from this site and get gassed.

>>10352545
>Getcha
Ah. Yeah ok that's an expected level of homo, then.

>>10348093
I don't mind male e-celebs collabs.
now trash taste and nux? thats where I draw the line

>>10352256
>>10352424
Even if they're not appealing to purityfags they're still being watched to simulate female companionship. Westoids have different values and generally don't have as much of a problem with simping for a woman no matter how openly degenerate she is. Either they straight up don't care or are able to compartmentalize it. Even then it's common for girls to get backlash and mass unfollows for revealing they're in a relationship. Vtubing is obviously going to attract the anime fan demographic that want to pretend the girls are pure virginal maidens like their chinese cartoons so companies like cover have to step in and tard wrangle the e-girls to not act like whores so they can make bank off that niche.

>>10353151
I didn't say anything about being in a relationship and neither did the OP though. We are just talking about people collabing together and interacting which is enough to set off some weird subset of vtuber fans while the rest of the world doesn't care.

>>10352811
Sorry

>>10352811
https://youtu.be/bglQxTHEojk

>>10353221
The service they're providing is a fantasy and the presence of a male interrupts that fantasy. It's not that complicated.

>>10353369
But you are missing the point. The poster I was initially responding to was claiming that dealing with this kind of male fanbase that wont want male collabs inherent part of being a female streamer due them all being GFE, but the actuality of the situation majority of fans of most female streamers have no problem with male and female collabs. It is just some small fringe part of some limited number of female vtubers fanbases that get upset about it.

>>10347049
Watching Nijisanji you relinquish your right to complain about f-m collabs. That said most "males" there are more effeminate than girls so it basically doesn't matter, most of them are either fujobait pussyboys or autists who have no idea how to talk to a girl in the first place.

>>10353663
>fujobait pussyboys or autists who have no idea how to talk to a girl in the first place
Anon, you just perfectly described yourself, good job!.

>>10353763
Exactly, that's why I watch them. Very relatable to me.

>>10353879
LONDON

>>10349465
I'll just use your shit bait to shill peak kino
Male-female collab
https://youtu.be/C9Xo-X2QNaM?t=43

>>10349465
dumb frogposter

>>10349465
>>10351353
Nice job with the bait, I was going to say something but I knew retards like >>10350523 were going to reply

>>10353510
Don't bother trying to explain how not everyone is watching a female vtuber for GFE. The people here are too retarded to understand and will just say you're lying.

>>10353510
It's not fringe at all the vtuber audience is a different demographic that has different expectations. Denying it ad-nauseum isn't gonna change the fact that males turn away viewers.

>>10347049
>tfw I see Ironmouse and Conner
This twists my soul into to two… they are perfect together and I can’t do shit about it…

>>10347105
based

>>10354174
Then how come it's never a problem except for some holomems? It obviously only matters if the chuuba wants a purityfag audience, otherwise people don't mind male collabs that much, they won't hate the chuuba for it

>female+streaming=automatic GFE
One, how do you delusional faggots cope with the fact that several thousands of others are experiencing the exact same thing as you are? So much for purity.
Two, you'll never have a chance with your oshi to begin with, so shut up and gobble up that entertainment you're seeking for so much or just go outside and get yourself a girlfriend, beta

>>10351353
>>10353151
Before Hololive become popular thanks to meme clips, GFE was only done by talentless 2views whore who bring nothing to table except pretending to be gf. Tsukino Mito, the greatest streamer style vtuber was a storyteller not GFE thot. Only second-rate companies like Hololive did GFE. Hell, even the most popular Hololive vtuber was not really a GFE vtuber. Hololive popularity fucked non-Japanese views vtuber and thought Hololive is standard not abnormally.

>>10347105
BASED AS FUCK

>>10354329
>3dpd
That’s the problem.

>>10354353
Now repeat that in English.

>>10347105
Based except in my case the vtuber is dead to me.

>>10348466
I think it's your first time watching a apex tournament

>>10354435
Fuck off and kill you're self.

The peak of male-female collabs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRh93_4dlqk

>>10354353
>company does thing that sets them apart
>gets insanely popular and dominates the competition
>no you see people don't actually want more of that
uh yeah ok dude whatever you say enjoy listening to your 2view suck off her bf on stream

>>10349465
this is the truth

>>10348093
I hate e celebs but I like actual celebs like seiyuus

>>10347049
Because those BITCHES are trying to take MY boyfriend away from me.

>>10351996
>>10350523
>>10351589
>>10354353
Seethe and Cope, Rushia does nothing but GFE and she earns more money than all non GFE female vtubers combined.
She literally became a multimillionaire doing it, other vtubers should mimic her or live forever in poverty.

>>10354627
If you fucking think Hololive become popular because of GFE not because funny meme clips and algorithm, I suggest you to stop watching vtubers immediately.

>>10354701
>muh algorithm
there it is lol

>You'll never have a chance with your oshi
>You'll never get close with your oshi
>You'll never have sex with your oshi
>You'll always share your oshi with other purityfags like yourself
>You'll always have to cope with the fact that no one loves you and the only way to feel loved is to listen to the words your oshi saying "I love you", the very same words hundreds or thousands of others are listening to

In the end of the day just go for strict GFE experience chuubas if you want to live the delusion rather than trying to force non GFE chuubas to act like one and drop them the moment they're not acting like your GF (cause they're not kek)

>>10354701
The reason is irrelevant. Whoever is popular gets to set the standard, not the loser lagging behind.

>there's a couple of GFE chuubas in the biggest chuuba company in the world hence every other chuuba must provide GFE

Are people not realizing the ironic element behind some posts in this thread?
I don’t doubt there are retards who believe female streamers only cater to lonely men, but some are also missing that there vtubers who will always cater to a certain niche
In other words, stop whining about GFE. Also, don’t take every post at face value, if you’re intelligent enough you’ll know why

>>10354769
Not every Holomem does GFE stuff

fuck off homobeggars

>>10347271
you mad bro? Selen likes when people make fun of her, stop being a fag simp.

ITT: More reasons why globaltards need to stay in their containment.

I don’t mind these two because I self insert as their straight boyfriend while watching them flirt with each other. Yuri is love, yuri is life.

>>10354698
It's okay if Rushia want to provide GFE for her viewers because everyone have a niche to fill. But don't try to force GFE as standards for female vtubers.

>>10354891
Wow, you are so smart coming into a dedicated shitpost thread telling people it's just a shitpost.

>>10347049
I don't watch them

>>10355009
Keep seething then, it’s obvious a few are taking it seriously

>>10354769
Did you fucking think Pekora, Korone, Miko, Coco and Fbk who make Hololive popular in the first place are girlfriend material?

>>10354993
>He says this, when he’s part of a containment board

>>10354891
I don't mind if some thot want to do GFE. But I don't want retard think it is a standard for vtuber.

I'm 100% sincere with what I'm saying you're just in denial about being one of these lonely men. If you had your shit together socially you wouldn't be watching women larp as cutesy anime girls on the internet 8+ hours a day.

>>10355003
They can do whatever they want, they just won't get my views, SCs or my membership

>>10355085
Yes.

>>10352727
They're one and the same

>>10355193
Good. Lets thot suck your money and soul.

>>10355085
Of course. But they don't have anything to do with people's standards for vtubers. Think about this: Miko saying nigga and Fubuki singing scatman made Hololive popular but holos don't become popular by saying nigga or singing small meme songs. Can you guess why?

>>10355146
>If you had your shit together socially you wouldn't be watching women larp as cutesy anime girls on the internet 8+ hours a day.
Fucking this. And you wouldn't be here at all.

>>10353879
London?

>>10355337
>Hololive is definitely an idol company and it's not just a shilling method

>>10354980
NTA, I don't mind their banter, but it's another thing when you keep arguing with your IGL in the middle of a tourney about playing a detrimental character with no indication of backing down, and then she starts second-guessing and having to confirm her own decisions with you because you've projected yourself as so much of a loose cannon she can't trust you not to do random shit on your own.

>>10355405
Shilling of what? To whom?

I can't fucking believe that there people seething about Bobon collabing with Selen, the least GFE chuuba of nijien, to this day. Goslings are retarded.

>>10355710
idc about pic related, the context here is my oshi

>>10355710
Bobon threatens veetee anons because he's basically your average /a/non who made it and is actually fun.

>>10355337
>holos don't become popular by saying nigga or singing small meme songs.
If you are talking about other Hololivers it's obviously due to algorithms. You watched Fubuki's scatman and Korone's Ekum Bokum, and algorithms will recommend you Hololive vtubers only. And from there you discovered Rushia and others. And EOP watched Rushia not because she provide GFE but because of her death metal voice and her menhera episodes. Like I said GFE was not the reason why Hololive become popular. If that was the reason then Aki and Mel would be the one in the top of Hololive not Pekora, Korone and Miko.

>>10355501
It's basically a monopoly where they get all the streamers to sign up with them, and siphon money off them, while providing little or nothing of value. You cannot collab with a hololive member unless you're part of hololive. You don't have access to their algorithm/boosting infrastructure unless you sign up with them. So all of the streamers are centralized under hololive and paying money to them instead of doing their own thing.

>>10356220
Maybe the GFE argument would stop being so enticing when there're much more successful male vtubers, especially for the EN side. That there are so many more males trying to be streamers, and yet no successful male vtubers who started from nothing, makes it very suspect what is exactly ensuring success in the vtuber realm.
Then again, part of the difficulty is that some people think GFE is the vtuber outright constantly telling you she loves you and wants to be with you forever (and maybe slurping into your ear while she does it), while other people think that if they feel good spending time watching her that's enough to qualify it as GFE. People should really qualify what kind of definition they're using.

>>10356677
But manjisanji

>>10356220
>Like I said GFE was not the reason why Hololive become popular
As you can see I agree with you. The reasons for people discovering Hololive and staying to watch it is different. Keeping an audience is not the same as attracting people through translating clips. As you know a lot of overseas viewers don't really watch streams in the first place because there's just so many clips. The people have no idea who Rushia even is aside from her screams. So then who is "enforcing the GFE standards" on vtubers?

>>10356907
themselves

>>10356677
That's kinda the reason why the whole argument can't be taken seriously. Nobody can define GFE in the first place. It's an entirely arbitrary term when applied to vtubers.
>>10356799
I think anon was talking about indies. Niji promotes their male talents.

>>10356799
Yeah but there's no male EN talents yet.

>>10356998
That makes it their choice and not a standard. If we assume that
>Pekora, Korone and Miko
aren't GFE then you don't have to go the GFE route to be popular and there is no pressure to do that.

>>10357092
Bro, Prof Evans debuted 3 months ago

>>10357045
>>10357092
The convo was about popularity tho

>>10357157
>Pekora, Korone and Miko
uhm...

We'd make the funniest TV show in history if we could get everyone from this board to participate in "Who's the Biggest Incel?"
Kiara, Haachama or Veibae should host for added anger.

>>10357502
>Haachama
?

>>10357561
Or Matsuri or Anya or whatever, fuck you.

>>10354607
Based

>>10347049
Insecure and envious unicorns.

>>10357225
Is this a meme? Isn't he a JP liver?

>>10347710
What's the gif of?

>>10347049
Why don't you fuck women that don't wear makeup? They're perfectly good. You're not insecure are you? You don't do it because there are women that do wear makeup. I don't want to watch men and I don't have to because there is a higher standard of vtuber. Basically you're a fag.

>>10349465
>Reddit frog poster
>Entirely off the point
Of course

>>10347049
seeing a man ruins my boner, but i wouldnt expect a homo to understand kek

Is this ironic idolfagging or actual idolfags losing their shit? I seriously can't tell.

>>10363767
Bit of both really

>>10363767
It's SEA hours all day

>>10363767
There are no western idolfags.

>>10360372
He is, but he's actually not a JOP and knows english

>>10363767
There are no actual idolfags on this board. Idols don't even have anything to do with autistic gender segregation like the mental cases on this board would have you believe.

>>10364318
>>10364475
Kek.

>>10347049
Bon will rescue her from lesbianism

>>10364475
I see

>>10347049
I branch out from Hololive only to see my laughing purple dragon princess defiled by male collabs constantly. Disgusting.

>>10347049
Its because Vtubers are actually cringe, but girls are allowed to be cringe. Also fuck off faggot

>>10347105
based as hell

>>10347049
it bothers me because the proportions between male and female characters are so fucking stupid and look really weird next to each other. Selen's neck is bigger than that dude's entire head and her head is even worse.... it's very weird to look at.

Not even going to dignify the OP with a (You) for making this stupid ass thread with nijis. At least bait with Holos, dumbass.

Bobon is a retard and I wish his kidneys exploded and I never needed to hear his sputtery indowns voice again, though. Not because he's a male just because he's retarded.

>>10347105
my knee shattered from kneeling so fast

I don't like icky females corrupting my male idols.

Selen is the most popular nijien and regularly has 2-5x as many viewers as the next highest nijien, so clearly it doesn't bother as many people as you think.

>>10347710
I bet he listens to the Ryan Gosling song from the moving about being sad at night.

>>10347105
So it… does bother you

>>10347049
Because when males and females collab there is always a sexual tension in the air and there will always be the expectation of sex. I don't like that since I'm not a cuck.

SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, BONBON CAN BE THE BEST MAN AT OUR WEDDING

>>10375575
>BONBON CAN BE THE BEST MAN AT OUR WEDDING
Kek

>>10347049
I love that it filters holoFags. Nijisnaji is the adult man's stable of vtubers.

>>10347049
It doesn't though

>>10347049
doesn't bother me at all, if anything i like to see them fuck each other on stream.

>>10371831
I feel this if I think the girl isn't worthy of the guy

>>10347105
Based.