/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Anyone hear back or have views on their vshojo apps?

So if I'm too poor to get an iPhone for face tracking, any decent webcam should work with Vtube Studio, right?

>>10288244
yes. a cheap logitech c920 is fine. you'll need to pay more for a high quality model + rigging in order to take advantage of an iphone's face tracking anyway. if you're on a budget, a usb webcam is fine.

>$200 minimum for a model that isn't deviantart tier
>plus another $150 minimum to get competent rigging
damn why do niggas bother commissioning all this shit just to become a vtweeter? They really got that much disposable income?

>>10289358
not everyone is poor

>>10289358
Look at gacha games. See how much people will spend on jpgs they can Google. Now imagine how much they will spend on jpgs that do not yet exist.

>>10289821
>spend on jpgs that do not exist yet
Suddenly the demand for NFTs make sense to me

Is there a way of finding free vtuber assets that doesnt involve scrolling through endless posts on twitter with the tags?

>>10290774
join a discord like the Live2D Community Discord and ask an innocent question, make others do the work for you.

>>10290774
stop being a computer illiterate zoomer and use a search engine instead of mindlessly scrolling through twitter?

>>10289358
This is cheap bro

I tried to do a wiggly recolor, but the file has pale blue outlining on the pieces, which kind of makes the bucket/fuzzy select not ideal. Anyone got a blank/uncolored one?

>>10289358
Anon… you need way more than that for both rigging and art to stray from shit tier quality. Majority of vtweeters have ugly models hidden by a cute profile pic done by a skeb artist. To them vtubing is just deviant art OCs that can move.

>>10296679
im currently streaming with reactive png, but do not have art skills of my own, so cannot make to a good upgrade like little s. worth getting cheap live2d or 3d model to make do until save enough for good model? or just stream with png and none on other sites because png cant do dances or sing.

>>10289358
I spent $400 on a high quality png + the chara design. $300 is nothing for the work that goes on a live2d model and if you're serious about streaming, you'll make that money back.

>sing boomer JP songs I heard from Gaki no Tsukai
>my chat now has 3-5 consistent ojisan that I can't interact with because I'm EOP

>>10302570
Based

>>10302570
drop your link if you want more ojisans

>>10299714
Did you make it back anon?

>>10303034
No, because its still in the works. I only commissioned it like 4 days ago

>>10303087
I hope you won't end 2view for years

>>10304464
Honestly, that money would've gone to gachas so its all fine

>>10303034
nta but i'll make enough money back for my model next month if everything keeps going the same way. then my rigging 2 months after that. and i'll be breaking even by end of january.

is it true that new twitch accounts get on users recommended lists more?

>>10304731
I doubt it. Twitch wants people to spend money through subs and bits, so they're much more likely to promote large and existing accounts, than those of fresh streamers.

>>10304731
no, where did you even come up with that idea?

>>10304827
I've read it being thrown around, some are saying that the algorithm pick up streams that stream regularly and are new

>>10289358
Does that mean for vtubers just starting out they shouldn't even bother having a free amateur model

is there a cheap Vtuber mama anyone knows of?100$ range or am i gonna have to learn to do it myself

How much do pngs cost pre niji goblina? Any interesting way to integrate and overlay what you commissioned into a livestream?
Why not use REALITY app and restream to utube when it's free or com3d2 / koikatsu? Having samefaces but appealing enough is better than poverty art.

>>10305364
for live2d? doubt it, gonna have to make it yourself
>>10305405
$35-75 if you want something decent, most just have it light up but if you're decent with photoshop you can make your own edits, why not try it yourself and report back so we have some practical knowledge?

>>10305148
when you first start out as a vtuber, you should be streaming as a png to see if you can even hold a consistent and regular schedule for a month. if you can't break a month's worth of regular streaming, everything else you invest would be a waste. it's advice meant to save you money so you don't blow $1k on a model+rig only to find out you don't enjoy streaming all that much.

following that one month, you'll have a better understanding of what kind of streamer you are, what kind of content you enjoy creating and where you want to take your channel. you can start to design and work out a model that'll suit you as a personality and channel content during that time and get one commissioned later.

>>10304993
>stream regularly
>are new
Pick one. If you've streamed enough to be regular, then you're not new.

>>10305364
I know of one artist who does art/rigging for slightly less than $100 each. If you get both, she'll do it for $175.

It's absurd - her models aren't Holo/VShojo tier, but they're pretty solid. I can only assume she lives in the middle of nowhere in the Philipines, and nobody's told her the prices are too low for US/EU pricepigs

>>10305637
whats her @? I'm willing to buy both

>>10299714
HAHA make it back. Unlikely, but if you like you're happy it's worth it.

>>10305745
DM me, I don't want to drop her info here, because I haven't got to the front of the queue yet.

>>10306244
New fren..

I streamed fine without a png or a cam fine for months and did it regularly on a consistent schedule. Cheap web camming tripled my views, self doxxed myself shilling to people I know irl and it raised exponentially. Fuckers chat using my real name despite having a screen name. It made me unsure if I should repurpose the channel as simping culture isn't popular for those viewers and in addition to that I may or may not also have pol tier moments removed by Youtube itself.
>>10305531
>>10305473
I'm artistically inept.
>>10305637
Poverty anon here, what's her handle and can anons show more artists like the one you said
yajimakichiro@tutanota.com

>>10299017
Some could argue it doesn’t matter too much and it’s about your content. I’d keep the PNG and save for a decent model. A cheap model can be a huge filter sometimes imo

>>10290774
Assets doc in the OP anonchama...

>>10306564
>I should repurpose the channel as
everything you've done on that channel can be dug back up. start fresh if you're concerned about dox.
>I'm artistically inept.
good thing no one gives a shit. the pngtubing is for you, not for the audience.

>>10306244
How are you suppose to DM on an anonymous imageboard

>>10306244
original poster, what’s your @ so i can dm you

i'm thinking of commissioning an avatar with the idea of being a doll-person with black button eyes (think Coraline). what sort of clothing would you recommend this character wear (male)? i have some ideas in mind but i'm wondering if any anons have some spicy concepts i didn't think of.

i'm going for a creepier vibe, so i was thinking a stitched together raincoat with coatbuttons that look like eyes (to contrast the button eyes and to add to the creepy factor). if i go with this, i'd put in the extra dosh to have the eyes on the coat move with the eyetracking in sync with the button eyes. whatya think anons? i'm not copying another established vtuber unintentionally am i?

>>10308384
>whatya think anons?
i think you've overthinking a design that won't really matter in the end.

>>10308577
how so? if i'm going to put effort into a hobby like this, wouldn't i want to go all out and design it exactly how i want? the little things may not matter to others but it does to me. i find the brainstorming fun.

>>10308737
>the little things may not matter to others but it does to me.
then why are you asking a bunch of anons? all of the anons here aren't even streaming, they're just waiting for views on their audition videos despite having zero experience.

>>10308793
>they're just waiting for views on their audition videos despite having zero experience
ah, is that so? i don't frequent this thread so i am not aware of the usual posters.
>why are you asking a bunch of anons?
i don't know, just wanted to bounce it off some people. obviously the design isn't in everyone's taste, it admittedly is a bit edgy, but nothing wrong with trying to get some feedback. perhaps a stray anon would have a really interesting comment to add that i didn't think of.
i get what you're saying though. i would only be doing this as a hobby but i think i'd be really good at it.

>>10308793
I take part in auditions, but also have been streaming for over half a year, 3-4 times per week, and I have a decent viewership of 10-15 avg. You shouldn't state assumptions like they're facts

>>10309177
>over 6 months
>3-4x a week
>10-15 viewers only
if you don't have at least 30k subs on youtube or the equivalent on twitch or you're not gonna make it. that's the bare minimum you need to be a competitive pick.

>>10309876
post your numbers anon

>>10309876
That's... not even true. Shiki from Prism had barely any subs/follows prior

>>10311180
A bit unrelated, but Shiki’s numbers compared to the rest of PRISM (not counting Luto) are very different. Do you guys think it’s because her model looks a lot better/unique than the others’? Is model buff that strong?

>>10311180
>>10311354
shiki's roommate has vocal training, an amazing range, and just super good at singing all around. even if she didn't have a lot of follows prior, prism management has said themselves they're willing to give non-experienced vtubers a chance as long as they have the potential for it

shiki's been blowing up recently because she goes out of her way to post tiktoks and short videos for the algorithm
backed up with genuinely good streaming skills and singing
im sure her model helps, but its definitely not the main reason why she's doing so well

>>10308793
I average 40-50 viewers on my streams 5x a week what's your average?

>>10313872
NTA, but I average 8-10, 3x a week. I finally upgraded my PC this week, so I've now got an actual mic, and can actually use overlays and recent games, so hoping to pick that up a little

>>10315253
keep going you got this!! that's still better than many many indies. that anon was just an asshole.

>>10315654
Thanks, Anon! It's kind of annoying, seeing a tonne of other genmates (or, at least, indie streamers who started at the same time) grow faster. But they've all peaked at the 11~15 average viewer. I'm hoping I can push through and get some extra growth. Once I've got my feet under me with the new rig, I'll finally drop my link here, and stop being a mystery poster.

so are you guys like ugly as fuck or what lmao

>>10315924
I completely understand. That's how I felt but i kept going and eventually passed them! Just have fun!! Others will have fun watching if you're having fun

>>10316154
yeah if anyone knew what I looked like IRL they would drop me instantly

>>10308384
Look up Identity V designs, it's creepy/edgy Coraline stuff.

>>10316154
I mean probably but who cares since people don't watch me for what I look like irl

>>10316154
I've got facial psoriasis, so I look like I've got an infectious disease. Literally to the point that I've accepted I'm going to be single forever, unless I can find a blind woman.

My theatre teacher inspired me to look into podcasting/back of house, she thought it was something I would be good at. Then she let slip "you've got the face for radio, after all".

cunt

Is there a market for Vtuber minstrels/blackface?

>>10316576
look around and see if anyone else is doing it already including trad face cam streamers.

>>10316522
That's rough, I've been struggling with a similar problem on my scalp and it can be extremely frustrating to work with. There are some treatments you might want to consider, like UV therapy that help psoriasis significantly.

>>10306244
Newfag-chama...

>>10286102
What do you believe are the qualities of a good streamer? Can those qualities be trained?

>>10316154
Face is unchangeable outside of proper sleep, appropriate environment and 39 years of eating meat and drinking milk, no onions no hormones no fluoride which will take a long time before they fully reflect what a man should be and that I can't fully invest on yet as carbon tax makes meat expensive, at least am /fit/ as a povertyfag.
>>10316168
>>10306772
Me having fun means pol gamer yab. Starting fresh still doing the same thing but just behind an avatar seems counterintuitive. I have enough confidence for those content but not confident enough to make a 360 change.
My favorite vtuber is It'sAGundam, I dream of playing in front of an audience occasionally dropping red pills during heated gamer moments. Only reason I still haven't killed myself from these draconian laws, I won't give up hope until all is lost and deep in debt without any of (((them))) paying for their crimes

>>10306244
Already sent you my email address earlier, please send me an email yajimakichiro@tutanota.com

>>10318294
>is entertaining
>has a personality
>treats each stream seriously
>has a character and acts that character, even if it's just themselves turned to 11

>>10318294
Makes interacting with chat a high priority and can easily keep making conversation even when there's no messages in chat

When signing up for a business account on paypal, it wants me to put in a business name. Do I just make one up/use the handle I'm planning on using?

>>10321198
just use your twitch channel name

>>10318360
Dude let yourself eat and onion you sound like you need it. And more vegetables. Just buy frozen broccoli or something.

I'm not auditioning anymore

Alright lads, I'm about to dive into Vroid hair making with absolutely no 3D modelling experience, wish me luck

>>10324967
Luck! That sounds difficult, but I'm sure there are tutorials online

What's the best time to stream? I am free all days, everyday btw i am a hikineet

>>10325783
When I'm not streaming obviously. I don't want another tuview competing for an indie chaser's 148th tab of his 8th window. Btw if you're reading this thank you for the follow Lamilez san! Praying one day you bless my channel with the first azuspacha of 1 pen when my channel's monetized.

>>10326093
I am gonna stream all day, everyday just to take away your seanigger simp

Are there any decent text tutorials on how to rig? I can't follow videos to save my life.

>>10328229
Cubism itself has text tutorials up online

is there a tutorial for tiktok? how do i use it? i hear Shiki and that methhead girl from /wvt/ got popular because of tiktok.

I've seen people scoff at voice changer a lot here, but honestly I don't have the vocal training to try and have adifferent voice. I was going to use my natural voice, but it seems it's not a good idea.

>>10335434
as an anon who has been here since /auds/ i'm tired of this meme. if you want to use a voice changer, than go for it. the most popular commercially available program is called VoiceMod. while i'd recommend against it, i've seen so many faggots like you come up and shitpost about voice changers that i don't care anymore. good luck, anon. it's only $35 or something cheap like that to get VoiceMod. you be the judge of whether it was worth or not.

>>10335677
>i've seen so many faggots like you come up and shitpost about voice changers
I was not shitposting. It was a legitimate question. I've seen other voice changers like Voice Changer (redundant name) and Clownfish but I would like to hear opinions about those, if anyone uses them.

>>10336878
I'm retarded, it was actually VoiceMod.Still, I would like to hear opinions on that one and Clownfish.

>>10335434
>>10336878
Just voice train. It's easy to get results in a few months if you read a lot out loud. It's also good practice for talking to yourself and streaming. Try playing a game with a lot of characters and create a voice for each of them the best you can, it'll help you start to work on figuring out how to begin changing your tone.

If you really want to go to the voice changer route don't expect amazing results. You can only use a tiny bit before it's extremely noticeable and obvious and doesn't seem like just a bad microphone issue.

>>10337437
I've done that before with less than stellar results, which is why I'm thinking on a voice changer in the first place.
I'm not looking to completely change my voice, maybe just getting a pitch high enough to be a loli.

>>10337925
like i said before, VoiceMod. unless you're part of some big wig studio, you're not going to get access to professional tier voice changers. voicemod is the best you're gonna get. cough up the cash for it and take it for a spin. see how good it is. don't come back whining like a little bitch about how >we didn't warn you.

>>10319415
nta, but do you have any advice/idea on how to keep on a convo with yourself that isn't based around the game you're playing in case it's boring? Im just looking for general advice

>>10333081
It's just recording videos anon. If you can use OBS, you can make videos for tiktok. Also there should be a ton of tips online somewhere

>>10338521
google conversation topic generators.
you'll getting some real mundane things like
>what specific thing about a country would you like to travel to?
>if superpowers had to abide by the laws of physics, which one would you pick and why?
>if you had a lifetime supply of X item, what would you want, and how would you use it?
open ended questions and topics like that, where you have the opportunity to dive into more nuanced discussion. these type of topics let you kinda ramble on about specific things. like, if you picked superspeed, what would happen if you ran so fast that you couldn't see anything? you'd have to limit yourself to speeds slow enough you could see, otherwise you'd be blind. and then you take that discussion into something else. ramble about the pros and cons about how something might actually work.

>>10338359
Who's to say I'm gonna whine about it? Just asking for a general idea how voice changers work. Meds and calm down.

>>10325783
what u can't make up for in personality or being entertaining, you make up for in raw stream hours

as a hikineet that is your one true advantage over everyone else, stream twice or three times as much as all of them

Got a bump on views on my audition and my reference video after I was emailed for extra references. I’m BELIEVING!

>>10286102
Why isn't there a singing general on /mu/? Where could I discuss learning how to sing besides here and possibly the vsinger thread?

>>10286102
I have really bad social skills. How can I be more entertaining and charismatic?

>>10343931
Use your bad social skills to be so retarded people laugh at it, exaggerate your personality for comedic effect.

>This program is just $35 bro. Those? you have to pay too!
Which software from the pastebin are must haves that are cracked and piratable. Not like one will be sued for being a measly two view wanting to try out L2d before committing more $$$.

>>10343931
fake it til you make it

>>10344541
Use it with the watermark. It's free

>>10316154
>so are you guys like ugly as fuck
Yes, I'm black. If I ever get into vtubing my avatar will be White and handsome.

>>10346477
Based self hating nigger.

>>10316154
Probably but I dont care I want to be a cute anime girl with ton of cool outfits

>>10316154
i've been in relationships with pretty people so I think i've got it good

>>10305364
I can do it, but it's going to take me a while, like some months depending on what do you want.
Look for me on Twitter as mutant cake if you still interested.

>>10349099
Hey wanna be cheap mama here again.
But also, you can do it by yourself, like if you want to start streaming, draw yourself a chibi or the final concept of your chuuba and use it for streaming while you learn live2d and start having more contact with other people.

>>10349359
>start having more contact with other people

>>10349088
How did you do it? Why did those relationships end?

>>10349478
Around the chuuba community ಠ_ಠ

>>10349722
unironically just try
two were menhara, one was long distance not working out after they moved for work

>>10342135
With who anon!!

When should someone call it quits and cut losses? I've been streaming for 7 weeks on Twitch and my average view count is only 3.

>>10351014
m*le? quit. girl? network with other girls

>>10351014
when you are not having fun doing it anymore.

>>10351014
That's not even two months. If you're thinking of quitting already then you should because you clearly don't have the passion for it and just want validation through an arbitrary number

>>10338521
I literally just say every little thought out loud. Sometimes I'll ask questions like the other anon said but mostly I just talk and follow any random train of thought. This boss is hard > I don't like his weird hair > I had a weird haircut in elementary school and everyone called me the name of a Beatles member
My brain also is never quiet which helps

>>10338521
I'm also just really weird so you could also lead something like that into talking about the hardest bosses you've ever played before or dive into exactly what makes it hard and what you tend to struggle with
There's a lot of different ways you can approach things while playing games just start practicing saying all your thoughts out loud and piggybacking off of it

>>10351014
Are you upset you aren't having instant success? That's a bad attitude. Why are you streaming? If it's to see a number go up, that's not a very good reason. Have you had fun these past seven weeks? If yes, continue, if no, stop. You could also make pre-recorded content instead of focusing on livestreaming.

>>10346477
Having a black live2d is suicide.

>>10354248
just goes to show how racist anime fans are

Anyone have any opinions on smaller corporate groups? (Prism, Phase, Cyberlive, Kawaii, Tsunderia, etc.)

What sets them apart from each other? Do any look more promising than the others? Which have stricter permissions or better connections? And so on. I’d like to audition eventually but I’m not sure which to keep an eye on/hold out for.

>>10356974
they're good, but auditions might be more difficult for them since they will be first and foremost about how well you connect with the existing members.

>>10304993
This is a cope by old 2views so they can explain away the reasons why they aren't growing.

>>10356974
Prism is very much going the Holo route, very idol and seiso-ish. Phase Connect is the yabai company by virtue of having Pippa alone but they seem to have a lot of freedom with their content and them being in notJapan means they have a lot of freedom with game permissions as well. Cyberlive have their policies very open and Lumi has talked extensively about how she's happy with the company, they also don't seem to stall with merch like everyone else. Kawaii is very much carried by the fact that they managed to get some seriously dedicated talent and everyone is growing at a good rate even though they seem to not have much support. Everyone in Tsunderia seems to be happy about where they are but I'd prepare to join them with the mindset of having to grind for your life because of their slow growth.

tl;dr Kawaii-Prism for seiso-types that have good growth lately, Tsunderia-Cyberlive-Phase for slow growth but more freedom.

bump

>>10362397
Thanks for the in-depth reply, I appreciate it!

I know Tsunderia has been around for the longest, will any of the others maybe eclipse them this year? Prism seems the most promising (and I like their character designs the best) but I’m not really into the idol model.

I heard that all of them are running at little to no profit margins (if anyone has a source on their finances, I would like to see it though) so it’s always a fear that the company might go under…

>>10289358
some of my clients saved money for almost a year to be able to afford kinda decent vtuber avatars

>>10366028
>saved money for almost a year
That's a year not streaming or streaming without a decent vtuber avatar.
Not everyone can save money with businesses downsizing and putting insane requirements like injecting lethal poisons. Many are toughening it up living on emergency funds.
>>10322377
Drink your S O Y and take your booster shots, unvaxxed pig without the 5th dose

>>10366392
the fuck are you even saying, u retarded?

How the hell do you deal with sadposting outside your chat. One of my regulars just brings EVERY conversation on twitter, or in the discords, back to "Hey, I fucked up my life, pay attention to me"

>>10368477
Tell them to kill themselves if life sucks so bad

>>10343731
seems like your best bet is just here, honestly

>>10368477
set boundaries and tell them you'll block them if they continue to cross the boundaries.

>>10365867
more info's been passed around since each company started

>prism - highest income cut at 50%, most permission issues, supposedly lots of support but talents take loans to get equipment
>tsunderia - family-like atmosphere, solid but losing relevance, not doing well financially
>cyberlive - talents are very close knit, lowest income cut at 85% to talent, does merch and talents have already hinted at second outfits
>phase connect - no perm issues and good growth, backed by a lot of money
>kawaii - little to no info besides that talents have mentioned there's a lot of pressure on them to get more subs

>>10369346
looks like cyberlive and phase are the best overall

>>10369346
Holy shit bless you this is just what I wanted to know.

>>10369346
>talents take loans to get equipment
to elaborate, it's a 0% interest loan from the company that they can take. It's not required and supposedly pretty lenient

>>10308384
for the clothing it depends on the age you are trying to portray, i think for a doll a good victorian outfit is the way to go to make it look creepy, make it a little worn out, keep earthy colors, but make them dull so it gives an old vibe, the eye buttons and button eyes sounds very good! and the overall vibe reminds me of the game identity V so you might want to check that out to avoid accidentally copying a character or to get some inspo. good luck!

>Checking Booth for clothes for my model
>It's all school uniforms or hyper-anime techwear style with bright primary colors
Please, buy a fashion magazine. I beg you.

OBS or streamlabs?

>>10375927
OBS

>>10376161
Thank you, any video rec that explains in depth how it works?

>>10376346
maybe in the OP or on youtube, I just google stuff, it's pretty simple. make a few scenes for pre-stream/stream/brb, add captures for game and your avatar, use reaper plugins to make audio good. streamlabs has widgets for chat and alert boxes etc. you can use without using their shitty OBS, just sign into the site and fuck around

>>10369346
Seems like Cyberlive's getting 3D for all their talents too. Gen 2 will likely have 3D within a few months as well. Likely gonna be the best agency right now.

Is this good enough for a pngtuber? I'm not confident enough in my Live2D skills yet to make it fully animated. Any feedback is appreciated.

>>10380203
it's good enough. how's your voice and what is your content going to be like?

>>10380267
I'm a spic so I have a thick accent, but here https://voca.ro/16VAbIT66I74
I'll focus mostly on fighting games and dumb self-imposed challenges.

>>10380999
it's fine. clear, easy to understand. do some voice acting reps so you don't sound like generic gaming nerd #415326

>>10289358
>damn why do niggas bother commissioning all this shit just to become a vtweeter? They really got that much disposable income?
That's not that much money, dude.
Especially if you have a job (any job) but still live at home.
Rent, heat, food & water erase the biggest chunk of your income. Kill that and even stocking shelves lets you pay for pretty decent setups.

>>10380999
>spic
>fighting games
It's KOF, isn't it?

>>10381305
Ironically I like anime fighters and Street Fighter more.

>>10380203
Yep!! Looks good, if you are going to use veadotube or smth like that, you can add closed eyes and mouth for animated a little more.
>>10380999
Also, nice to meet you fellow spic bro !

Anyone have any good horror game recommendations that I could finish in one stream? (anywhere from 1hr-8hrs)
I've looked up some, but I want to have some input from people within the community demographic, too.

>>10386489
Fauna from Hololive recently played Ib which took her 3 hours. https://youtu.be/C-8XCngUD5s it's a little light on the horror and more psychological than jump scares. but it's a pretty popular classic.

I've been streaming almost a year now, and I've continuously gotten feedback that I should do ASMR. The problem is I have no fucking idea what or how to ASMR. Do I just basically do BFE and whisper talk into the mic? Am I supposed to roleplay a one-sided conversation? Do people actually want me to crackle paper or some shit?

>>10386595
they're probably talking about your voice then. go look up some ASMR BFE and GFE scripts and study up on them. they're basically the same thing anyway, just replace the pronouns.

So, how did you guys actually start? Do you make a debut video or do you just start streaming?

>>10387338
just start streaming, debuts are dumb

>>10387338
I made accounts, hit "go live" and dropped my link here to test out if what I wanted to do would work, and to see if I enjoyed streaming. Forget about a fancy debut, just decide on what kind of content you want to make it and give it a go. You can figure the rest out as you go.

>>10387338
Just start streaming. Build confidence, learn to talk about nothing, get some regular viewers. You don't even need a PNG, although since it's relevant to the thread we're in it obviously helps.
Save the big debut stream for a proper live2d or 3D reveal, once you've already got a few people invested enough to watch it.

>>10387338
Nobody cares about debuts anymore, they just want the content. Just start making content and if you get big enough you can do a redebut with a new costume or 2.0 model if you have a fanbase that demands it.

bump

Cyberlive getting 3D so soon really seems like the company must be doing well? Or they just want to do more variety of content quicker? 3D modeling/rigging/hardware not really cheap…

Kinda wish I had auditioned for them now!

I'm going to save you all

>>10386766
Good lord. I looked up some and I feel like I need to break out the heavy flamer. It does seem that I'd either have to improv this sort of thing on the fly or make the ASMR stuff VOD only.

>>10393301
Depends on the 3D model really. If it's full body tracking then yeah, it's costly. But you can get away with 500 to 2k in terms of price range if you're just doing iPhone stuff.

>>10393418
no you're not. you don't even watch indies.

Imagine a centipede-themed chuuba but slightly styled as seen in the various Megaman games?

Zero/ZX themed centipede chuuba anyone?

This is what happens when you reveal your powerlevel.
https://twitter.com/arbiterofwhim/status/1441543522071552007

>>10394317
2 months ago i'd tell you how retarded of an idea that would be. but now i'm just tired. sure anon that sounds cool. go find an artist and commission it right now.

>>10393418
What indies do you like watching? Do you watch anyone /here/?

>>10389292
Honestly this is what I'm going for, also mostly because I'm figuring things out little by little.

I think I have a decent-ish concept for a chubby bee but it's going to have patchwork skin.
Is there any vtuber app/program that can do that or I'll have to make it custom?

>>10398272
what are you even talking about? why would patchwork skin require any special vtubing software?

>>10398319
I meant if something like Vtuber Editor can do patchwork skin.

>>10398485
it's a drawing anon. they're all drawings. just mess around with the texture file.

Just finished my psd file, you can see the process on my twitch (citra3000) i think my mic sounds better now, it still has a robotish sound to it but i think that's just because it's trash. until next update, /asp

>>10316154
Is this bait or a genuine question?

>>10401028
if you have to ask, anon...

How do you prevent yourself from talking like your mouth is full of saliva? I've been listening to my practice records and it's really distracting.

>>10402579
>t.nigger
Smack your lips, mute your mic beforehand.

>>10402579
ignore the retard.
talk slower, stay hydrated and sip water, eat something sour half an hour before hand to pull out some extra saliva from your glands before you start, that way they won't be overproducing during your stream.

What happened to Hoshiyomi LSD anon?

>>10403389
it was a one off stunt

>>10403415
Thank god. I would be very concerned if it wasn't and he would pop a pill whenever he wanted to stream.
If you are reading this, you are a legend. Please stay a living legend.

I was really stressed about getting started before, and my endurance level for certain was lacking a little bit. But I've been able to get my audio on track, and I got my model levels on track so I'm not shaking like an alcoholic when I'm just sitting there.

Almost everything I've done so far has been practice for the real thing. I have a plan for a debut, and a somewhat fun idea to keep kayfabe and a gimmick going. I know this place hates lore, but I think it won't be that stupid, though it'll depend on my writing skills and junk. I get a fair amount of compliments on my voice, so even if it's cringe, itll at least be nice to listen to, apparently.

Things are finally getting real after staring at the model for so long doing nothing. It's hard to stifle my delusions of grandeur, but I really do think that if I hit that lucky spot, I'll get somewhere with all this. Even if I don't, I hope I'm able to be to a few people what my favorites are to me.

>>10394441
LMAO

>>10403930
>I have a plan for a debut
ew, ngmi

>>10403930
dont do a debut stream, nobody is gonna watch

Should I stream an esports game if I'm not esports-tier in skill?

>>10405038
depends on how fun you are to the e-sports audience I guess? try watching regular streamers for those games, you'll get plenty of people who play up rage or just have a lot of interesting things to say, or do unorthodox stuff

>>10393944
It's gonna be full body tracking because Pandora and Yuri both have years of experience dancing and they both talk about showing off their skills once they get their 3D models.

If anyone wants to make a "Middle aged golf dad" character, boy did I just find the clothing pack for you.
https://booth.pm/en/items/3226916

>>10404918 do those actually do that poorly, or is it just something this place doesn't like?

>>10404891
How can I not make it if I already believe in myself? That's like 98% of the work. Viewer numbers and content are barely a factor.

But seriously, what's up with this whole "debuts are bad" thing? I'm pretty certain every single relevant vtuber's done one. Not that I think that's the secret to relevancy, but still, I don't see how it can do anything bad for me.

>>10405480
debuts are for after you've built up a following unless you're a corpo with big money for marketing

>>10405306
they work for corporate/heavily promoted indies because it becomes a huge community event. unless you have some major pull, its a complete waste of time, nobody cares about "just another indie" jumping on the pile. prove yourself with content

>>10405038
Apex?
>>10405092
What if I am

>>10405480
debuts make sense if you've been amassing a following on twitter over time for example

debuts don't make sense if you come out of nowhere and debut with no one showing up

>>10305587
ESL?

Not all that interested in starting off as a vtuber right away but i do want to make more elaborate youtube videos and eventually pngtube or stream
HOWEVER having read through the OP and hearing others comments, i dont want to be dragged down into an audiophile rabbithole and not get anything done due to choice overload anxiety
i have several scripts and video ideas done and ready to record but no audio recording equipment so all my videos before now have been tts or unvoiced
hate being \that\ person but can anyone please recommend an inexpensive audio interface to go with the Shure SM-48 or SM-58?
am i wrong to assume all i need is the microphone, xlr cable, pop filter/windscreen, stand/arm, interface?

>>10407222
alternative mic/setup suggestions are also welcome, thank you all for your time

>>10289821
Are 2nd hand models a thing? Personally i only put money into games if they have a community market because i have the security of being able to recoup at least some money if i get bored of them; If i bought the rights to a model i could in theory resell it should i get bored of VTubing?

>>10405306
Irys had 300,000 followers (Youtube subs, but same deal) before she went live.

You might have your mother, and an alt account. If you're going to do a 'debut', do it as an affiliate celebration. You're gonna pull some figures, and it gives you a chance to build hype.

>Live acting, burnout, composure
You guys wager this will be useful?

>>10407222
DIY fabric cloth or better yet socks as pop filter
Improvise a stand/arm
With those two cut out of your budget concern go ham on a better interface

bump

>>10387338
I started doing streams all alone, not any planning really, just idle talk while drawing, also using bgm for not generating awkward silences.

>>10286102
Also you guys know another stream software like obs but more lightweight for toaster's specs like mine?
Specs: I3 7th Gen, 4 gb (actually 8gb but win10 control 50% of it), 1.7 ghz, Nvidia Geforce 920M
Or it could be better just changing the OS to another less demanding like Win7 ?

I can't afford a new pc or laptop rn, but I'm saving money for that basically as soon is possible.

>>10407575
Sometimes. I’ve seen it done. You need 100% permission to resell from everyone involved in its creation though (character designer, illustrator, rigger) and if you plan on selling any related assets (emotes, overlays, skebs, etc) permission from those artists too.

>>10415961
sorry but OBS is like the lightest one, anything else will make your pc explode

>>10416489
Yep definitely changing to windows 7 in the meantime u.u thanks anon

>>10415961
Have you tried streaming? OBS is the best choice, it's lightweight.
Things you can do:
Don't reencode, stream what you captured in its native resolution. Capture only a portion of your screen, resize (game) window

>>10416896
At the risk of sounding like a /g/entooman, why don't you try Linux? At least if you only want to stream with no model so you can get started

Got a question for you, /asp/. Looking at startup companies right now, looks like Phase and Cyber are supposed to be the most promising. What I’m seeing:

>Phase has good potential but gen 1 not enough gamers, talent wise a bit lackluster
>Cyber had yab start but growing with new 3d model debut, talents have a lot of variety gaming which seems to be what Phase is lacking

So between the choice of potentially:

A. Joining Phase and potentially being one of the best talents they have by filling out where they are weak
Or
B. Joining Cyber and probably only being average amongst all their already-good talents

Which would you chose?

>>10411462
i already have both of those, im more just concerned about having an acceptable setup to just get started and recording without having to think about it too much

I am going to do my first test stream tomorrow, any tips, especially for my throat?

>>10419214
Drink a lot of water starting today. Keep a lot of water on hand while streaming (2-3 bottles). If you feel like you sound particularly wet (too much saliva), keep a green apple on hand for munching to help clear your mouth out. If you feel like you overdid your throat after, tea and honey. This is the whole nine yards though. If it’s just a test stream and you’ll just be talking normally (nothing crazy like extended periods of screaming) even just water on hand during is fine.

My VA friend also says throatcoat tea actually helps but the flavor is terrible.

bump

>>10406685
>Apex?
dota 2

>>10420980
MOBAs are pretty dead games if you're looking for growth. With the game having been around for so long, everyone has built their own little camps and it's incredibly difficult to build a new following off such an established game. You'll have better chances if you build up a community for yourself, unrelated to the game, and then make DotA a part of your streaming identity. But just starting off with DotA is going to be an incredibly difficult uphill climb.

Anyone here know much about literal who indie vtubers getting botted a bunch of followers on twitch?

>>10421125
I was thinking of playing up the memes about the game I took from /d2g/ and mocking the mistakes everyone, especially me, makes at my bracket while keeping positive/gradually losing faith depending on how the game goes.
Now, starting with dota was an option because I've been playing a lot of it lately but I wasn't actually planning on making it my main thing. Are there any games that could help me with growth? How do I identify those?
I feel like if I just picked the latest meme game that every big streamer is playing it'll be the same as maining a MOBA since everyone will go to the big vtubers/streamers instead.

>>10422208
>mocking the mistakes everyone, especially me, makes at my bracket while keeping positive/gradually losing faith depending on how the game goes.
This sounds like a good gimmick for a week, maybe 2 weeks, but it's going to get stale incredibly fast after that. This is content that can better be summed up with a 10 minute video of silly highlights as a youtube video.
>Are there any games that could help me with growth? How do I identify those?
This one depends on what kind of content you want to make, what kind of audience you want to grow, and what talents or skills you have. Do you have a good voice? Try playing some short visual novels or narrator over story heavy games. That new Ace Attorney game has been very popular with a lot of streamers and vtubers doing silly voiceovers for the characters. Are you highly energetic and expressive? Maybe try some horror games with October coming up and showcase your energy through jumpscares and creepy atmospheric games. Are you highly knowledgeable about a game and can ramble on about tactics and strategies while also playing it? Go focus on those games you're good at.
>I feel like if I just picked the latest meme game that every big streamer is playing it'll be the same as maining a MOBA since everyone will go to the big vtubers/streamers instead.
This is just a meme. A new game has the draw of novelty. There will be more people going around looking for streamers playing a fresh game for the first time to be part of an experience again. Not so much for games that have been out for a decade.

I've considered for a decent while just starting to stream as a PNGtuber, but I think my voice is so huge a debuff that I'm legitimately ngmi. For the record, the voice is a bit like a young boy, with a strong accent on top of that. I *can* try to put a lot of expression in there, but first I have to ask if there even is a market for what could be mistaken for generic SEAmonkey gamer #61244. I'm aware that the first idea is to enjoy the process of streaming itself; just wondering if it's not "literally stillborn ambitions" territory.

>>10423124
You're not the only person out there uncomfortable with their voice. Give it a shot

>>10423124
Your voice is probably completely fine and you're just biased because you're used to hearing stereotypical gruffy male protagonist voices in media.

>>10423222
Hah, yeah! I admit fully that this is partly the case. I've been tracking a ton of celebrities, and not gonna lie there's been a dearth of people with the whole "younger bishonen" voice. In fact, the only one I know of that has some degree of success is Mafumafu, and he's a bit of an outlier in terms of how skilled he is at singing.
Part of it is also knowing the hell of a backlash Justin Bieber had when he started out due to his voice - I'm not exaggerating when I say my voice is probably at Baby-tier if not worse due to aforementioned accent. YWNBAW and all, but if I don't have a voice fit for the manly male archetype, I'd have preferred it to be something that could be passably female.
That being said, you and >>10423187 have a point. The idea being tossed in my head right now is, in short:
>you might be the first to make it and you didn't even know

>>10423408
Samefagging because I fucked up and missed a point, but I've also tracked VTubers, and one concept I've been fascinated about is how easily adapted to a melody Gura's voice is. Something about tonal range and control that's pleasant to hear and all, though the technical aspects of it I'm fuzzy on. That sort of energy is something I hope to harness when I do get to streaming.

>>10422569
Ah, okay.
Now that that's out of the way, are there any "variety"/random vtubers I can learn from?

>>10423488
Don't use vtubers, use face cam streamers.

>>10423408
>YWNBAW and all, but if I don't have a voice fit for the manly male archetype, I'd have preferred it to be something that could be passably female.
Don't be a retard. And stop using le ebin 4chan lingo.
>>10423484
>nd one concept I've been fascinated about is how easily adapted to a melody Gura's voice is.
You won't get this from just streaming. You'll have to actually work at it and practice. Get a singing coach.

>>10423731
Probably the biggest surprise here from I've seen is that /asp/ avoids that lingo. Not sure why, but I'll leave it as an interesting observation.
As for the singing coach, situation here hasn't really been conducive to in-person coaching, but I'll look online for some personalized coaching. Thank you for the bit of direction!

>>10424026
>Probably the biggest surprise here from I've seen is that /asp/ avoids that lingo.
Why would it be surprising that people who want to become commercially successful and join a corporation avoid using nigger, tranny, kike, etc. from their vocabulary?

>>10424026
>Probably the biggest surprise here from I've seen is that /asp/ avoids that lingo. Not sure why
Because it's fucking retarded and a guaranteed way to ensure you'll never grow. You're going to max out at 20 views tops if you're a woman from viewers in /wvt/ and become a toxic dump that no other streamer will want to reach out and network with. But you're a male, so you'll be lucky to break 4 viewers.

>>10424099
isnt pippa doing fine

>>10424082
>>10424099
I don't mean outside of here; it's a given to never bring lingo here outside. I mean to address that in the context of the /asp/ thread itself. I get what you mean, though; just didn't expect an adverse reaction from within.

>>10417495
If we're talking about being guaranteed to get in, Phase I think. If we're talking about actually applying, both for security

>>10424215
Pippa is female, and even she's not going around spewing YWNBAW or throwing out slurs casually.
>>10424325
Your communication habits are that. Habits. You keep casually typing that shit out and you're gonna drop a hot one live on stream out of reflex.

>>10424387
>You keep casually typing that shit out and you're gonna drop a hot one live on stream out of reflex.
I keep having to stop myself from saying faggot on stream. It's hard to break over a decade of 4chan conditioning, let me tell you what.

>>10424387
Excellent point. It's probably worth it to resist the urge as well on other threads, even at the cost of fitting in, which... I probably don't want to fit in with that sort of crowd, anyway.
Back to the original concern, I could send a file on Catbox to give an example of my voice, but I'm concerned about opsec / being identified as /here/. Ideas on averting that?

>>10424611
Vocaroo. Delete the upload afterwards. There's enough voices out there that anyone and everyone posting vocaroos have plausible deniability if they don't want to be linked back here. It'll be pretty difficult to draw the dots on a single 20 second long voice clip that maybe 10 anons will ever hear or listen to.

>>10424720
When you use vocaroo, make sure to click the gear icon and disable their shitty options

>>10424866
https://voca.ro/1f6amhB7NMcN
same anon as >>10423124 and related
Made one with somewhat low energy because I don't want to draw attention from nosey roommates. Voice strength definitely suffers. Would filter the fan noises if I knew how to; this thing's a condenser mic so it picks up literally everything in a few meters' radius.

>>10425868
good enough for the most part. there's some white static noise that you can probably filter out easy enough since it's consistent low level through the entire thing. you can use Reaper plugins in OBS and subtract that static noise. if you have a 2000 or 3000 series nvidia card, you can also use nvidia broadcast's noise suppression tool to clean it out. otherwise, it's clear and easy to understand.

as for your voice, take deeper breaths and talk a bit slower. your accent does kinda make it difficult to understand, but not by too much. open your mouth a lot more when you're talking.

>>10426117
Noted all, thanks! I'm waiting for other anons' ideas before deleting this for opsec, but while waiting, is there any sort of archetype / design that would be a good fit for this voice? Assuming better breathing and clarity technique from me, of course.

>>10426444
Honestly the first image that came up to my head was a foreign Venti, pic related.

>>10426522
I did voice comparisons, and... given what I've heard, I take it you mean his Japanese VA (Ayumu Murase)? That being said, a cross-dressing shota-chuuba might be worth a shot with this voice.

>>10426850
In the long run it doesn't really matter. Your viewers will instinctively connect your character to your voice. Same thing happens with every other vtuber out there like Kiara from HoloEN to indies like Yoro and Kongou who put on character voices. There are others like Little_S and Yozora who don't put on a character voice and just talk normally. But eventually your viewers will just link to the two together.

>>10426966
Alright, thanks. Overall, this has been encouraging; the answer has been "start streaming, see how it goes" all along. Gonna keep the Vocaroo up for a bit longer in case someone wants to add something.

>>10407222
I’ve been using a U-Phoria UM2 with my 58 and it’s been working well. It cost like $50 new.

How do streamers come up with their outfits? If you're not artist its tough to come up with something, do the bigger streamers hire character designers? I barely can find any

>>10427543
Fashion magazines.

Because I'm seeing pathetic chuubas advertising poorly, self deprecating humor is last decade. Don't use it and stop putting it in your titles. And don't beg in your ads and stream titles.

Greetings viewer!~

Wany is about to go live playing the beautiful Korean gaming spectacle Skul : The Hero Slayer.

His distinguished wretchedness would be pleased if you would be there.

https://www.twitch.tv/illreviewanything

>>10424387
This, i'll often play into being ESL in order to give an excuse for why i take so long to come up with a reply to chat, the true reason is i'm avoiding saying faggot or other slurs because if i didn't mentally check before talking they'd slip out eventually

>tfw want to stream dos games, but too much of a brainlet to get dosbox to function properly
Dino crisis it is...

>>10433004
>>>/vr/

With the twitter drama going on just a reminder not to go trendchasing and doxing yourself. Virtue signaling is only a good feeling for the 15 minutes after you post it. But anything you upload to the internet is there forever.

if you're here bloom, are you a baritone?

>>10438313
bloom's a tenor with i believe a 3-4 octave range
in his chuuba choir rehearsal streams i think he's hit the high notes that he was testing the sopranos on but couldn't get down all the way to the lowest notes of the basses
he could pretty much sing any vocal part though

>>10438313
pretty sure he's mentioned he's a tenor

I'm looking to update overlays and panels and shit, and I've found some on etsy for like $40 that are close enough to theme, whereas I'm now using really shitty ones I made for free. Should I go for it, or save and commission someone to do fully customised ones?

Does anyone actually care?

>>10438460
probably 3 octave, 4 octave is legendary freddie mercury level

>>10438460
>>10438480
High tenor, can fake being a bass well enough for most things.

>>10438841
Last time I did a range test was D/E2-F7, but there's a gap from D6 to D7 where my falsetto ends and an unreliable whistle register begins. So 4 usable octaves on most days, but for actual paid classical work, I'm a tenor.

Making a test stream while in Fightcade, hope everything goes well.
https://www.twitch.tv/eldiablorojo_vt

Is the only real way to make sure you aren't singing in a way that will screw your chords to get in-person lessons?

>>10354248
>Having a black live2d is suicide.
Get an alien

>>10438657
I would weigh how much time you'd have before you see yourself getting fully commissioned ones. If it'll be a while (due to either finances or waitlist), $40 isn't too bad to use for something in the meantime to spruce up your stream a little bit.

>>10441181
In-person is very much preferred for voice lessons because there's more to it than just your voice. Your posture and breathing is also pretty important; those things are a little harder for your teacher to evaluate if you go with virtual classes only. Even if it's just one 30-min class a week, try to go in person. The rest is just applying what you've learned to practice.

How much does it cost to start a vtuber company?

>>10442640
However much you're willing to invest. If you're doing it by the book, then however much it takes to file company papers with your state or country. Everything else is up to you after that.

Hello, I am not really new to vtubing, I have been doing this for 8 months.

I am unaware to continue from this, I feel like I have to be unethical to continue and I wish there was something else. I can get up to 4 or 5 viewers and sometimes they even give me some money. In a way I haven't broken even. Not that I expect that to happen, I have gotten 100 Bucks when I used 150 for my set up.

I wonder what else can I do other than multistream. I have watched other much more popular vtubers and I can't see what else they do. They have obviously a better set up. But they are not really have anything that makes them really better.
Maybe I am getting kind of cynical.

>>10442844
If you want specific feedback, feel free to link your channel. If you want to stay anonymous, then you're probably only going to get broad and generalized advice.

>>10442959
I may not know the basics.. So Starting from that it would be good.

>>10443055
The very first thing you need to realize is that vtubing is streaming. And streaming is about entertaining viewers. At its core, you have to know what value you're providing to your viewers. What you're doing is asking someone to give up time out of their day and watch you. What is it that you are providing to them that they can't get from something else. The something else you're competing against are:
>other streamers, including face cam
>netflix, youtube, hulu
>twitter, reddit, dramaposting
>etc.
Everyone has something they can offer their viewers, it just takes some time to figure it out. It's really difficult because you've only ever seen life from your POV, so what seem like talents and gifts to others just appear as "default" settings to you.

Eventually, when you get larger and bigger, that value you provide to viewers will grow to the point where they'll start creating things for you like fanart, or even monetary donations and subscriptions. But that's way further down the line.

>>10442844
What are you specifically doing that would make viewers want to watch you? What are your viewers there for? Why do those 4-5 people watch you and not one of the hundreds of other vtubers? What are you offering them?
If you don't know, your first step is to figure that out.

Hi! i'm apologizing for my bad english since now, I'm ESL desu

i was wondering if anyone needs help designing their avatars? I might not be the best artist but i'm pretty passionate about character design, it would be a simple colored thing, like a reference you can show to the artist of your choice, that way they dont charge you extra for character design. i specialize in thin men and any kind of girl

things i won't do (because i dont have the skill)
-bara
-mecha/robots
-furry

i will have 5 slots open! (so i dont get confused and dont make you wait too much)

oh? did i forget to mention? it's free! the only thing you will be losing is time :-) this is my way to repay to /asp/ for helping me so much!

my discord is kaiman#5540 see you there!

Would drawing porn of other vtubers be a good way to network?

>>10445172
If you're for real, you should link some of your work for people to see before messaging you.

>>10445222
yes but you will be know as the _vtuber's name_ porn guy

maybe try with sfw or just a little risky art? not straight up porn

Anyone else been randomly getting followbotted recently?

>>10445457
Yeah, got like 20+ follows from bots as soon as I started streaming a few hours ago.

>>10445172
Not gonna DM a random Discord username out of the blue, especially off 4chan. Post a public page like ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter.
>>10445222
That's not really networking and most chuubas that see it will assume you're just some viewer fan or a creep. But not as a networking opportunity.
>>10445457
Yeah, it's a new wave. I got several and I've been offline for most of the day. Check for the account age and block them using CommanderRoot's tool if you get hit by too many of them to handle manually.
https://twitch-tools.rootonline.de/follower_remover.php

>>10324918
every time i consider putting my pride aside and auditioning, i end up deciding against it

learning about phase-connect seemed okay, then i see they're considering females only

fuck this i'm going to vocaloid

>>10445172
okay, I'm dumb here's a link to my twitter, i don't post my art because imsecure, i also got a tablet recently so thats why there's only one digital drawing

all drawings have my discord tag on them so you know its ~legit~

https://twitter.com/mikeyaiba/status/1442312067046801413?s=19

>>10446481
After seeing those, maybe in a couple of years, chief.

>>10447245
aight, fair

as i said, it's just to have a picture of what you want, not a full model plus it's free

>>10446481
>>10447398
I now understand the why the google spreadsheet link in the op has Twitch Chat Pronouns.

>>10289358
that's pretty cheap lol plenty people can easily afford that on a hobby theyre trying out

But a good model costs way more than that, my model from a high quality artist was about 1200

>>10369346
>tsunderia - family-like atmosphere, solid but losing relevance, not doing well financially
Tsunderia is actually the only company that's publicly stated that they're in the black. Pretty sure Prism and Phase confirmed that they're both losing money.

Which is better for milking goslings and gachis; mesugaki who teases ojisan viewers (Shion but EN) or soft shy clingy loli (Rushia but EN)?

>>10451798
Are you talking JP audience or western audience?

>>10451830
Western

>>10451942
Incest route with younger sister or step sister is better.

How do you deal with tranny xir xeim viewers?

>>10451983
The younger sister's gotta have a personality too, what kind is best to empty wallets?

>>10452143
Thank them for coming to your stream like any other viewer, dipshit, why do their pronouns concern you, they're viewers

I got a legitimate follower and chatter in my stream today. Made me feel good, after like 50 bots followed in a row at the start

>>10452143
You... don't.

>>10452143
The fuck are you doing advertising yourself to that audience in the first place, retard? Viewers don't find you randomly and twitter natives certainly don't go out of their way to dumpster dive for 2views.
>>10452212
Just look whatever step sibling porn is most popular in your region and base your character off that.

>>10369346
late to this but I want to add on more for other anons since the companies all have their strong points and it is really a matter of what you want for your career

who should you go for? all up to you. do you want the most stuff? cyberlive. do you want the most numbers? prism. do you want the holo experience without restrictions? phase connect. do you just want to be an agency vtuber and have fun? tsunderia.

>i wanna become a vtuber!!!
Tough shit. Get a talent company to take you in. Only way you'll actually become a legend and not a vtweeting tranny nigger.

>>10451798
Beatani

>>10452255
fucking REKT wannabe

>felt good getting my first viewer guys hahahaha
Hope it's your last before you realize being an indiefag is shit

>>10453374
>>10453761
You've wandered into the wrong thread, retard. Shitpost elsewhere.

>>10453374
The only company that matters is Hololive, VShojo beats out every other company's EN groups by thousands. Statistically it's better to just be a VShojo

stop feeding the trolls you retards

bump

>>10458200
>trying to bump as the 311th post
anon....

>>10421125
>MOBAs are pretty dead games if you're looking for growth
I'm not saying you're wrong but what's the issue with mobas? From what I can tell the issue is more about stagnant growth of a zero variety streamer versus catching what's popular for the zoomer crowd. Wasn't one of the points told earlier to just have fun? Staying in your niche can be relaxing on your time off instead of burning yourself out being a trend chaser.
Sorry if I sound dumb, I'm not very knowledgeable about this but if you can explain better I'm open to being educated.
https://steamdb.info/graph/
https://steamcharts.com/top

>>10459246
>Wasn't one of the points told earlier to just have fun?

"Just have fun" is good, but fun to me is sitting here silently playing games as much as it is chatting and streaming them. You need to learn to have fun in a way that is still enjoyable for people to watch and that usually means not playing "debuff games" unless it's something you can use to entertain. There's a few big (10k+ irl ones) that I can watch play games I would've never otherwise given a shit about, including Madden or League of Legends, because I enjoy their personality but seeing as large streamers like that you likely have a lot going on for you compared to a small no-name.

>>10458259
BUMPER CARS