/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>A thread, probably a good thread too, died for this

>>10098826
Something something muh creative freedom something something zhangs something something camwhore
There just saved you from reading the thread

And yet, Coco hasn't done anything creative after she left. Just get kicked out of Playism game show hosting and nobody really care except for the few that dislike the reserve stream which were promptly deleted. The power of Coco was severely exaggerated.

>>10098862
Thanks for the tl;dr. Phone posting at work and it really saves me some time.

>>10098826
don't use my oshi to shitpost, falseflagger
holoEN anniversary collab was pretty kino for my taste

Fuck off flaseflagger

You were invested in the thrill of fighting the zhangs in a meme-tier internet war, now you're bored because it's just asian girls and menhera western girls pretending to be anime characters and keep drama to a minimum. Coco was the peak of drama for vtubing.

Hololive historian discord faggots are here again

>>10098862

I'm going to answer seriously, the magic died years ago long before COCOK left, everything innovative has been done, collabs once pure magic beyond comprehension are now just ways to introduce people to other vtubers, playing certain games are (and always were) marketing opportunities, and now we have vtubers in multiple different languages people will just form their own opinions on what they are.

I want to blame nijisanji for what vtubing has become, since we've moved on from 3D characters doing stuff regular youtubers couldn't do and being larger to life, to basically a regular streamer with their character as a "dressing", fact is mass produced vtubing was coming didn't matter who put it out there, and quite frankly hololive dominates this board and while I'm happy Tokino Sora's brand has gotten the fame it deserves what it has become and the associated fanbase is certainly not what I wanted it to be.

If anything rather than NUMBERSNUMBERSNUMBERS I've fallen back to smaller ones, not indies, being an EOP english indies are just not my thing, least english company start ups least have a small chance of becoming something more than some weeb with an avatar who just mumbles into the mic and bitches on twitter breaking character which was what what I wanted from this shit, a character, is escapism so hard to get?

I guess when COCOK was around I was just in denial, if anything I can simp for someone that needs that encouragement that they are unique even with barely triple digit viewers, just because they make me smile despite being the worst years of anyones lives.

In short, like me, you were in denial because of the shit that happened and only just opened your eyes, but my problems were a thing long before her departure.

>>10098826
Maybe you're just getting tired of vtubers, same thing happened to me, the magic just kinda wore off.

>>10098826
I think the honeymoon phase is now just wearing off for those who got into it in 2020.

>>10098826
>planning something big after leaving Hololive
>ends up showing oppai on stream
is that what you guys mean by something 'big'?

im literally shitting and cumming right now
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>10099152
This. Shitposting during the Taiwan yab was the most fun I've had on this site

>>10098826
If you’re not watching Nijisanji EN you’re missing out. Hololive has indeed gotten dull

>>10099437
>>10099415
Watch NIJISANJI

>>10099318
Kizuna Ai became irrelevant was because of her management and the stupid marketing decision to clone her. Nothing to do with NIJISANJI, dont be a faggot.

>>10099623
>>10099513
No

>>10098826
Holocouncil are all boring and awful. Holomyth dont stream as much they used to. Seeing as how these are the best of the best this really just means that vtubing as a whole is just boring now.

This, selen is the best!

>>10098934
>Just get kicked out of Playism game show hosting and nobody really care
Playism got fucking CANCELLED for that and they're still trying to damage control for this PR disaster. Tatsunokos are still going strong.

>>10098826
Your feelings got hurt.
It will pass. Touch grass or something.

>Doesn't watch Nijisanji
>complains
Your boredom is self inflicted.

>>10099799
Yeah, and that 21 pages of apologize

>>10099623
I will never ever waste my time watching vtubers with lower numbers than even HoloID. They're all shit.

>>10099847
>more viewers than irys
Get your head out of the sand

>>10099799
Did they fire that faggot who apologized for chinese cocks?

>>10098826
How much do you get paid for making bait posts?

>>10098826
>since her graduation
Nah, hololive went downhill before even the taiwan incident. That's why I watch mostly niji and indies now, they're still entertaining than hololive doing the same old shit every week.

>>10099776
That laugh, I can hear it in my dreams when I sleep at night. It haunts me like a ghost. Every day, every night, I hear it, mocking me, toying with me, digging into my brain. It's like a drill gnawing at my ears, and yet I need more of it.

>>10099776
Based.

>>10099776
I'm sure I'd enjoy her if I could get over the accent, it's just too much for me. She undoubtedly has the best taste in games out of all the EN vtubers.

>>10099964
You just gave him his payment by replying

Branch out. Problem solved.

>>10099318
>I'm going to answer seriously
>It's all Nijisanji's fault
You didn't need to write all that just to tribalfag.

>>10100041
I think I'll just keep complaining and being a contrarian asshole because that's all 4chan is good for.

>>10099776
Factpilled, and yes, nijisanji is always better.

just don't watch hololive

>>10098826
I think you might be a retard

Nijiniggers get out

There’s a dragon in nijisanji, she’s the pinnacle of EN vtubing

>>10100238
I think you might be a faggot

>>10100286
>>10100187
Falseflagger detected

>>10099776
>>10100270
Favorite design

>>10100326
The only falsflagger here is your mother when she said she loved you.

>>10099752
>EN

>>10098826
No it's the same. It's just not new anymore. Duh. Now go watch ticktock or whatever you short attention span meme lord's do.

>>10098826
It hasn't even been a year...

>>10099318
kizuna al shit is enternal seething at nijisanji i see

>>10099318
>being an EOP
Aifags had over 5 years and haven't even learned enough Japanese to passively understand an indie chuuba.
They were right to bully you in /JP/

>>10098826
watching Passpartout, Plug & Play, Undertale, Minecraft, Phasmophobia gets tiring after the 59th time

>>10099964
>How much do you get paid for making bait posts?
you sound like old men in the comments of Breitbart, et al. they accuse liberal trolls of being paid shills (usually for George Soros), showing a fundamental ignorance of economics.
Why would Soros, a financial genius, pay people to do what they are happy to do for free? I dare say if you banned everyone who created such threads on this site, and charged them 50 USD to be unbanned, many of them would happily pay it.
It's called a labor of love.

>>10109737
People on 5ch are actually paid to post rrats because matome sites make good profit

Kson did a wiifit stream barefeet
She's pretty chonky

>>10098826
>There just isn't anything memorable happening anymore.
meaning you only cared about le zany wacky clipbait happenings that seldom occurred and not the normal content
maybe you should hop on to another trend?

>>10099799
>Tatsunokos are twittercancelfags
lmao

vtuber mixer 2 when?

>>10098826
Coco is unitychad who create image " happy big family" to Hololive. It is not the same anymore

>>10100032
Idk homie I absolutely fuckin adore her silly accent

>>10110314
Chonky in the best way, not to mention she is 152cm if i remember correctly, you can bench press her.

>>10098826
I could never get over Coco's atrocious Japanese accent. What a good riddance.

>>10099318

They're exactly the same they've ever been, you just don't have some jap whore making gross-out jokes and talking about shitty reddit memes.
Literally nothing has changed.

>>10098826
yes vtubing is getting dull, you should stop watching and touch some grass or some shit nigger

>>10098826
Unironically watch something else than Hololive

>>10098826
it's time to become chad and come enjoy some good indie

This is obviously a larping faggot but if anyone actually thinks this then their focus is much too narrow and shouldn't be watching chuubas in the first place.

>>10098826
go watch your camwhore ethot then, there was a reason she can't even pulled 5k viewers until her announced her graduation

>>10098826
>dull and soulless

wrong. Momosuzu Nene is still here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNWgzD-3P2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_XkLaQo5iY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WAujmXj9Ms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4LADh2lYgo

>>10099318
>blames vtubers
It's the money stupid. It always brings parasitic leech people that kill off creative stuff into prepackaged pasteurized corporate products for the masses for maximum price point viability.

>>10125858
I'm 150% positive Nene and Aoi went through idol training in their previous life, their 3D stuff is way too good .

>>10098860
>probably a good thread to
C'mon guy, you know better than that

Hololive specifically can get dull quick because of their lack of permissions for either interesting games or the games the girls actually wanna play. I guarantee you that while working for Cover, Mori will NEVER be able to play Bloodborne on stream. Not now and not after she graduates. Old games? No one is around anymore to send the permission-granting fax to Cover. It's truly their weakness. When the stream block is APEX MINECRAFT APEX MINECRAFT even I just fuck off and watch normal streamers that can actually play something interesting.

>>10099799
>22 tweets of groveling
I'm out of the loop, what did they even do?

>>10126183
They got called out for being pooh dick rider

>>10125858
>>10126021
Nene is a true idol. she's fucking built for dancing, 3D, and live performances.

just look at her go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-fFIOw3dP0

>>10126183
They slated Kson as a special guest and quietly removed and replaced her when the chinese raised a stink about it

>>10098826
Hololive is on the decline between Coco's departure and Omega shitting up Holo EN in every way possible.

Vtubers as a whole are still doing great. Check out Nijisanji EN if you haven't yet.

>>10126409
Aren't they a Japanese company?
Why are they sucking chinese dick?
This is never going to end well. Companies need to just give up on the chinese market. Users will just steal all the content and companies will steal the IPs.

>>10126464
>Omega shitting up Holo EN in every way possible
Please explain

>>10126464
Sure after the Minecraft Mega Collab fail and 3d poker embarassment I don’t think Nijiniggers will ever recover.

>>10126862
I don't know how well their games are received over there but depending on that it might have been worth pissing off a few thousand americans + japanese. Not many even knew Playism was having a game show in the first place and people are quick to forget.

>>10098826
Let's be serious for a moment.

Regardless of whether Coco was producing good content or not, she was just not meant to be a hololive member. Her personality didn't fit, her jokes didn't fit, her content didn't either. Also her peak content was on the same level as, say, Pewdipie peak content. Same energy, I don't necessarily like it but you have to admit when something is just popular.
The vtubers fad has already been dull for a while after Kizuna made it popular with the masses. Vtubers already existed before, and to be honest it was also being made fun of. Kizuna just helped the same way as when anime became mainstream. Before it was cringe, for weebs, embarassing, for losers LOL etc, but then it became the cool kid trend and everyone now is trying to jump on the wagon.

If anything, Vtubing isn't reclining, it's stabilizing. Now that the meme queens and overall over garbage bait le horny girl are multiplying it helps with filtering people. With all the average to garbage content, the good ones are likely to rise easier and in the same time attract people who are really interested in the tech. Fags will just be busy spamming memes and sc in their meme queen stream.

>>10125585
Dumb esl

>>10098826
Am I getting old...

Or has /vt/ as a whole gotten really dull and soulless ever since her graduation?

There just isn't anything memorable happening anymore.

>>10127622
The zhangs and /pol/acks left that's why

>>10127380
They make pretty good indie games. It's part of why the whole situation is so fucking stupid. No need to go out of their way to fuck up their own rep like that but here we are. Also shows how incompetent their staff is at communication. If it were me I would've just contacted her and lied about a scheduling issue I can't go into details about and ask her to reschedule for a future timeslot that hasn't been set yet that's months out and then tweet out due to scheduling problems she won't be part of the host lineup this time but will be in the future then never follow up on it. There was no need to give a public statement about complaints and shit, which is also why they deserve all the shit they're getting now.

>>10098826
I watch NijiEN now mostly and I am having fun. The girls have good chemistry with each other.

The industry as a whole is stagnating because the world stagnating. Videogames aren't coming out and most vtubers are just LPers. Don't forget that we lost Suzuhara Lulu the same week we lost Coco because China deemed vtuber too dangerous to allow.

>>10098934
Like Clockwork. Why is it that shitposting is the only thing you can rely on yellowniggers for?

>>10098826
Hololive has been devoid of soul since the end of 2019 anon

>>10099677

This is a good place to put this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM9jzrj7HCM
Malicious viewer tries to bait Gwelu and Noraneko into opening up their analytics page. They see it coming and just gracefully dodge the situation. Zero backlash.
Coco could have easily done this but chose to fan the flames instead. American mind simply cannot avoid conflict.

>>10126021
didn't nene's roommate do that sort of stuff prior to hololive?

>>10128542
Chink is malicious. Everyone who open the analytic page should not responsibility for China's emotional.

End story

>>10128667
yes she did.

>>10128542
WOW they know what would happen if they did, after 11 months of an incident that moved the whole vtuber world.
Impressive.

>>10098826
Coco's whole shtick is drama. Without it, she's a boring, unfunny, vulgar, talentless, mickey mouse voiced thot. If you doesn't focus on numbers like the low iq subhumans you are, Vtube actually went on a fucking decline since this cunt debuted and it's steadily healing now. I thank the Lord above everyday that she and holoCN fucked off forever from the scene.

>>10127529
Let's be serious for a moment.

You are talking trash.

>>10098826
Get RICED dyke.

>>10129005
t. coco fan
No argument. No rebuttal. Only shitposting.

>>10115937
Ikr
I just thought she'd be pretty fit but she even has cankles
Bitch knows about camera angles she hides at least 20 pounds with them

I already got vtuber fatigue before holoEN gen 1 even came out

>>10129103
well, no one wanna talk with sub70 iq faggots.

>>10098826
you're missing coco....

and no, i disagree with that statement

>>10128998
Don’t use my oshi for your garbage.

How come Coco got full body tracking model before everyone else
?

>>10099318
Natsumi moe still exists now since 2017 shes the first envtuber and still makes interesting content in 2021

>>10128185
This.

2018 was peak of vtubing when eilenes reign was supreme and there were multiple competing groups of vtuber and no monopoly

>>10128542
Ether bait or actually regard.

They literally did it due to cocos incident......

Look at the date faggot

>>10098826
I started watching vtubers after her graduation and I already miss her just from clips and collabs that I've seen.
How the hell did her actual fans cope with her graduation?
I know she reincarnated, but I doubt it's even close to the same.

>>10130753
We all try to hang on to gura but it's just not the same, no pun intended

>>10098826
I realized it turned into shit when they switch to turbo e-sport mode and everyone copying each other like a fucking slanted eyes they are

So glad i get to watch the early comfy minecraft stream in 2019 before the invasion

>>10127529
>Her personality didn't fit, her jokes didn't fit, her content didn't either.
Her primary content was 3 things -
Getting the holos to play ark
Giving the holos a platform to shitpost on a massively popular morning show
Shilling Ryuu ga gotoku

Holos got bored of the 1st thing, Cover stopped her doing the second thing, and most fans didn't care about the third.

Anyone who thinks her main appeal was fucking meme review is probably a child that needs to get molested.