/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>TODAY'S FINAL TALLY
Here it goes
>32,320: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,040: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,140: Suisei (Hololive)
>22,886: Kenmochi (Nijisanji)
>20,318: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>20,223: Korone (Hololive)
>18,629: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,429: Sana (Hololive)
>17,476: IRyS (Hololive)
>16,939: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>16,640: Miko (Hololive)
>15,296: Polka (Hololive)
>13,104: Shibuya Hal (indie)
>12,752: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,634: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,616: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,677: Sana (Hololive)
>10,459: Rushia (Hololive)
>10,457: Himawari Honma (Nijisanji)
>10,252: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,227: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,219: Aizawa Ema (VSPO)
>10,178: ars almal (Nijisanji)

Today's peak CCV list

Is there any other announcement/event today besides that JP3 collab?

>>10054585
>【 無 】 計【 画 】
>剣持刀也?
how do they keep getting away with this

>>10054652
A couple of lives announced in the MK collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6sopnwW92A

>>10054803
Those weren't announced then, they were just promoting it

>>10054729
Manjisansji is too strong.
Jokes aside, there's the allure of coming in to see what they're going to do for the stream.
Also, my god is the catalogue full of bait and shitposts. I fear that by using the retarded image memes we may have unleashed our resident schizos on the board...

I got bored and made a tier list about Holo's performance base on CCV but they can get bonus points for other metrics if they are good at it.
>Gura only has her CCV at the S tier but due to her monstrous VOD growth, I put her on the SR tier.
>Suisei has a bonus point because her karaoke stream can pull S tier numbers.
>Rushia got a bonus point for being the top SC earner.
So is there anything that needs to change in the tier list?

>>10055923
Is Polka really that bad? Worse than Kiara?

>>10055830
I noticed Kuzuha poster has been posting on a lot more split threads than usual since this thread went with meme images.

>>10055923
lamy should be one tier down, and so should moona

>>10055830
toya is toya but people stayed for valorant more than i thought

>>10055983
Whilst Kiara is bad because she plays tons of debuff jRPGs that take forever to clear, polka is completely inconsistent due to her own menhera causing her to not have any consitency in streaming and killing her numbers that way.

>>10055983
>>10056029
From what I've seen her streams are around 5k even with Minecraft but I just put Kiara and Lamy a tier above because of their SC numbers
>moona
Ok I'll change it

>>10055983
Polka debuffs herself hard by doing a guerilla schedule. She gets Kiara's RPG streams on average if she's not playing MC.

>>10056068
Because his fans missed solo Kuzuha due to him spamming tournaments the last 2 months

>Thread one hour in
>9 posters, 15 posts
IT'S FUCKING WORKING!

Gonna be a slow HoloEN day today
Lots of members streams, only Ame and IRyS doing non-members stuff , and gen 2 doesn't appear to have posted any scheduled stuff for today.
Going to have to wait for JP times for any interesting numbers.

>>10056874
Interestingly enough, an anon asking questions about Kuzuha activity in several threads got posts deleted at the same time anti Selen posts got deleted aka banhammer.

>>10055983
She literally never have a schedule, its all guerilla so ofc that is gonna affect her numbers a lot

>>10057194
Yep.
Consitency is the number one key to success as a streamer. Building a habit inyii watchers to always tune into around the same time, much the same way people would always tune in to watch their favorite shows on TV.
Oh my god I felt old typing that sentence.

>>10057267
I do love her complete lack of structure but yes idd it comes with hurting her number game as a price

>>10057267
>much the same way people would always tune in to watch their favorite shows on TV.
>Oh my god I felt old typing that sentence.
kek

> he didn't have his meal with his family around the radio with a kerosene lamp
DAMN YUNGUNS!

>>10057098
Too lazy to check if they were removed at the same time, but I wonder if that was the same guy who was trying to stir shits about IRyS just now too

>>10056874
Yes, it's working but we are losing to random threads discussing number

>>10058476
Meh, not our problem anymore

>>10058476
Means it’s working even better!

Why are you retards even "discussing" numbers? This is something that only matters to Cover and you have no idea how they analyze them. Basically you're just wasting your time instead of doing something more useful with your life like actually watching streams and supporting whoever you like or doing literally anything else.

>>10059932
Not a numberfag myself, but one would hope that this thread would function as a containment thread. Unfortunately it doesn't...
If you ask me in depht discussion of numbers should just be prohibited outside of this thread, it would greatly improve the quality of the board

>>10058476
That's actually reasonable.
If an event require a special thread and specific discussion on its numbers.

>>10059932
What the line here says
https://youtu.be/wJxM3POU92w?t=1
It's just entertaining to look at numbers to some degree. Also, this always turns into actually talking about active streams without less larping spam than the generals.

>>10059932
My oshi is a midget and rarely comes up here but I still find it fun discussing vtubers in this thread. I happen to watch a lot of pekora but also like some of the boys and girls in manjisanji, so it's a nice to use numbers as a way to chat. /jp/ is shizo central and global is cancer. I won't touch the njiji threads, cuz fuck-em. Besides my oshi's thread, This and the apex thread are fun to post in.

>>10059932
Low numbers can make my oshi graduate or be sad while streaming

>>10059932
Because it's fun. Numberfagging has as much effect as sex-posting.

>>10059932
Expectations: Armchair marketing analysts with at least some minimal reps on different chuubas calmly examining their relative performances.
Reality on a bad day: Fishing pond for (you)s with baits on why your favorite oshi will graduate in a week

I lurk with the hope that my expectations will come true one day. In my more schizo moods, I also pretend to be Yagoo and this thread fulfills the tism need.

>6am stream
Rindou pls save this man

>>10054585
Pekora's gta streams are really funny I'm not surprised she got over 30k again

>>10061387
next step is PekoMiko gta collab next week

KNEEL TO THE CLOWN!

>>10061654
Good, she changed the thumbnail.

>>10059932
As shit as this thread usually is it's interesting to see how well the industry is doing and who is currently suceeding and failing. For an example if it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't have a clue that VSPO are doing as well as they are right now.

>>10061654
that is some midget number

Kuzuha ark nooooo but its holiday anyway pretty good numbers

>>10054585
>Kuzuha 29k
So JOPs like Valorant now?

>>10055923
Why are there so many cucks for Ayame? She literally streams once a month after fucking her BF

>>10063388
What the fuck is a VSPO?

>>10063812
Not just that she also hate gaijins (she's a member of nippon kaigai), it's so cringe seeing westerners writing shit like "nakirium" and "ojou".

>>10064912
The company that beat every Holo except Pekora yesterday

>>10065372
You mean beat every Niji except kuzushit right?

>>10065433
Yeah that too

>>10064976
>>10063812
hey friends, I masturbate to ayame every single day

>>10054585
Nijisanji winning again.

>>10066060
How? Hololive is 1st. >>10065491

>>10066123
baitposter desperately trying to get (You)s, ignore

>>10056936
yes, seems no stream for EN 2 so far only baelz posting her schedule and no council weekly collab..

>>10059932
This is actually one of the few threads on this board where Niji and Holo discussion melds together most of the time. You hear status reports on who are getting better or getting worse. Thread can be quite chill most of the time.

>>10063812
Main Hololive channel has shilled her the most through hologra and being the face of that cover song comprised of gen 0-4 singing.

>>10063812
Turns out that being incredibly cute+ocassional streaming+constant Hologra shill can quite literally break the general rules for streamer growth
Maybe they should do something and try harder for the smaller Holomems.

>>10063740
>So JOPs like Valorant now?
To the point Vtubing is probably going to help the game more than esports.

>HAACHAMAGE WILL FIX YOUR OSHI’S NUMBERS

Top form for Ina, returning to her slot uncontested

>>10070302
this is guerilla too. Impressive

>>10070302
This is outside of her usual slot, but there's no one else on and thus managing to sneak in very short boosted gurellia stream before torturing EVERYONE with Chess with Ollie later.

Today's superchats

>>10070674
No holos except Kanata in Top 10 is unusual, but then again a bunch of the highest earners were in the casual MK collab yesterday, and those usually result in severely depressed SC earnings.

>>10063740
Apex is borderline unplayable these days so the apex kids have got to get their fps fixs elsewhere

Since this is the designated number thread, I always find it interesting with the second largest fanbase on the board catches up with the largest one.

>>10071670
The answer to this is....picrel
There's a full wave 1+2 collab going on right now.

>>10071781
No holo en streaming and still could not get the numbers.

>>10071670
reminds me when hlg used to get 70+ posts per minute on /jp/ while the whole board moves at like 75 posts per minute.
then the split happens and both /hlg/ and /hlgg/ gets 50+ posts per minute at the same time.

>>10070674
Luto AGAIN and this time she didn't have the buff of an endurance stream. For the amount of viewers she gets Luto is VERY powerful. Like, insanely so.

>>10072394
It looks like, just looking as an outsider with no idea what she's doing, that she's managed to attract some real gachis and they're showering her hard with cash.

Hmmm.
Umisea MV is chugging along, but its probably going to take a week at soonest for it to hilt 1 mil at this rate (446k views after 35 hours)

>Akina gets stuck
>gains 2k viewers

>>10074854
Context? On what the hell this even means?

>>10074965
Niji, playing Ark.
Saegura Akina is their full name.

>>10075018
Is that crazy for him or something?

>>10075018
Nigger you know none of us here actually watch nijis, give us more context

>>10075412
Fuck off, nobody will spoonfeed you.

>>10075139
Now, I'm not a regular Niji watcher and since we don't have piyo or any other way to track their regular numbers, so here's a playboard link
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCNW1Ex0r6HsWRD4LCtPwvoQ
Average viewership of 6.4k, so 10k is quite a bit higher than their average.

>>10074821
I thought there would at least be a section where Gura is singing solo, haven't checked out the full song but it might have been better if they put a whole song instead of just short version.

>>10075482
It's interesting but idk why it warrants a post when a lot of Nijis have gotten 2k or more boost from playing ARK

>>10075471
Then stop shilling your failures in the numbers thread

>over six thousand dollars made in a single day from completely normal streams
Male Rushia? Male Rushia. Tick tock Pekora, he's gonna surpass your month sc average soon.

>>10076437
>monthly SC
>Pekora and Kuzuha $650k total difference
Do nijifags really? Her jump king stream can also be counted as normal, look at her SC.

>>10070674
I miss the sc explanation anon

>>10076670
Only $3k difference despite the massive boost she got from the Jump King streams. If Kuzuha does more solo streams she's done.

>>10076844
She's currently playing GTA V, you can't send SC. Kuzufags please stop being so tryhard at shitting on other chuuba just to hype up your man.

Surprises: Mori outdid Kronii despite just having a milestone stream, and Sana also outdid Kronii.

>>10076844
Thing is, Kazuha always need to join collabs and tournaments to get higher numbers, not to mention he might still have his 1st niji 1M boost (don't you faggot says otherwise because you always use this to shit on holos)
Pekora just need to do her usual thing with very rare collabs and still get good results.

>>10077505
Sana had loads of streams (due to taking a break this week) while Kronii barely streamed.
But yeah, Sana is definitely shaping up to be this Gen's Flare (low views but high SC)

>>10076844
Tokyo ghoul should be worry about lamy cause she coming for your ass.

>>10077505
Kronii only did 3 streams last week, while Sana had 7 and is building up a good devoted fanbase, she also finally did a drawing stream and a karaoke. As for Mori she streamed some pretty long hours with the 10-hour minecraft and Jump King. Someone makes sense with those numbers desu.

>>10077505
>Kiara 4.4K
that pretty weak for Kiara.

>>10076712
Sorry bro I'll get back on it I haven't visited /vt/ in a bit.
>>10070674
Kuzuha: Solo Valorant and first stream on new ARK server
Kanata: Karaoke
Lauren: ARK? There is a deleted frame.
Kirara: 6 month anni
Annin Miru: 360k sub endurance & drawing art (for viewers?)
Ibrahim: Back to MC, quite a lot of SC were about how his listeners first found him then some silent akas
Naruse: 100k celebration
Axia: Little Nightmares & SCs congratulating him on streaming for 2 months
Luto: Luto (6 month celebration yet lots of the SC were a red train, she has wallets on lock)
Furen: reached 370k subs, also someone dropped more than 50% of what she earned today
Chaika: Solo MC
Feel free to add any additional info as I only scroll the stream and read the SC information/comments.

>>10078099
KFP might've felt the pinch after the anniversary and a new outfit coming at the end of the month.

>>10076844
The jump king SC's from this month don't count towards last month's SCs you dumb shit.

>>10077558
How retarded are you, that is a SC image and anon means that Kuzuha gets way more SC during solo streams.

>>10054520
lmao that pic

>>10064976
wtf I love ayame now?

>>10078165
Thanks and welcome back

>>10078508
Kuzuha sc amount made this month so far: $37229
Pekora sc amount made this month so far: $40881

>>10063740
Isn't Valorant Chink/Tencent spyware?

>>10079264
So is Genshin and a bunch of other shit they play.

>>10079264
No it just fucking sucks

>>10076844
Who is this kson ONAIR? She is almost beating Rushia for the No.1 spot.

Only wrong answers please.

>>10071892
>11 holoENs
>only 3 streams
>one of em is guerilla stream

>>10079264
>>10063740

Check pic related
Zeta Division was one of the Japanese teams invited to their official tournament and their star member Laz is a Japanese prodigy,

>>10079203
There's a good chance Kuzuha's SC numbers are taking a hit right now.
AnyC just released new seasonal voice packs and guess who's pack is listed as the best selling at the moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2RSvnX2dtw
prediction? its a full gen 3 collab and today is a national holiday in Japan

>>10079668
40k minimum

Really impressed with the KING's 29k today. It was solo Valorant in the middle of the night. Pekora could never replicate that with her 12 year old fanbase that goes to bed early.

>>10079668
No matter what numbers there would be, it won't pass 100k concurrent viewers. I am sure I won't eat my words. Nothing can surpass Pekomom stream.

>>10079825
anon.. they already passed pekomom stream. this is a gen 3 collab

>>10079655
His VP always is a best seller.
And for context on his Valo numbers it's because it's been a while since he solo streamed, he wanted to do Apex but it was lagging too much, plus he discussed future stream plans. That Valorant match doesn't have much impact on him.

>>10079668
70-80k.
Funnel stream when they all have pretty different viewerbases on the main channel.

>>10079912
That is Houshou Marine though.

>>10079668
Holiday in Japan? really? if so they might get past 100k

But my initial prediction before knowing the holiday is 80k

how mad?

Huh, I thought ark should be a debuff game by the third iteration but it's still a buff game for nijis. Whether it'll buff them even further depends on whether they can do a PvP war without anyone getting massively flamed, I guess.

>>10080079
Personal Tastes?
Since you have Pekora & Marine as SS then also try Haachama & Miko

>>10080079
How do you know all Gen 2 and not fucking IRyS? Were you in a coma for all of July and August?

>>10080240
Yeah IRyS is great, try watching her
And if you like Kronii then i suggest watching IRyS Minecraft stream last week

>>10080310
That goblin face though

>>10080310
Except for when she's playing any kind of fps game because she has the situational awareness and sense of direction of a fucking barnacle

>>10080079
If you have Mori in A tier you should give Suisei a shot. I don't know a single Deadbeat who doesn't have Suisei as one of their favourite JP Holos.

>>10080173
This run of ARK won't be the same as their first run, and recently Kanae and Kuzuha said they feel like it won't be the same thanks to their fans running off to be crazy, to the point where Kuzuha asked in Nijisanji discord for anyone to feel free to block his name in their chat due to how his fans keep talking about him there, before he even opened ARK for this server.

>>10080390
So his fans are worse than chumbuds at their peak?

>>10080364
Both of them, although has the similarity of focusing on music and singing, have very different musical style and taste.

>>10080343
Her model is improving tho (maybe its just me getting used to her).
I don't know why but she seemed lighter skinned

>>10080501
From what I heard chumbuds made fun of Fubuki for not hitting 1 million or something? They've never done anything like that on a mass scale but JP side takes mentioning other vtubers in other chats very seriously. Called pigeoning. Then there's the people who get mad their oshi got killed or raided but that's a NIjisanji wide issue almost

>>10080558
>I don't know why but she seemed lighter skinned
Probably due to the illusion as there is a nigger in gen 2.

>>10080558
It's an obs settings thing, she's been gradually getting whiter and smoother every stream

>>10080558
When she increase the brightness on some games, she forgot to decrease it that's why she's so shiny now

>>10071781
...is that number their peak? did full gen collab beaten by Ina's guerilla and IRyS 2nd playthrough?

I can't get over how fucking hilarious this thread is someone help
the people are retarded

>>10080578
If I recall they were spamming Fubuki that Gura got to 1m first.

>>10080814
Maybe I am retarded but at least I am not ESL

>>10080814
ESL

>>10080813
That's their peak.
The recent Selen/Pomu apex collab got more viewers combined than the full NijiEN collab if I recall correctly.

>>10054585
With the rate VSPO keeps inclining I can see them becoming the third biggest JP agency if they keep going like this. Though they still need a heavy hitter to compete with Haneru's collabs and Patra's ASMR.

>>10080974
Not suprising. Selen's Apex collabs are consistently the highest numbers in NijiEN.

>>10080813
Yes, and I don't know why you would expect any different, nijien regularly gets outperformed by that one channel that ranks hololive songs

>>10080814
https://youtu.be/sh7-WPKoWG4

>>10081074
Kinda feel bad that Apex of all thing is the main thing propping up NijiEN numbers.
In other news, Selen VP is sold out.
Rosemi: 44 remaining
Petra: 71 remaining

More than Sana playing Celeste

Are these usual numbers for Selen?

>>10080079
>somehow knows Pekora but not Miko
Nice try nousagi, Miko will rape Pekora again on christmas.

>>10081416
Dead space 1 is the most popular one in the franchise

>>10080877
Yea, it only requires a few bad eggs to spoil the situation too, really spoiled the mood around the whole 1m thing for everyone. Fuck those guys.
>>10080813
That's just the numbers NijiEN pull. Their peaks are 6-7k for full collab and Selen Apex for solo (6-7k). Otherwise, NijiEN usually get 1-2.5k depending on which member you're talking about.

>>10081416
>>10081598
Game is a buff due to its space horror aspect. I'm not surprised if she played the game before if I were guessing from her title. No newfags would think it's a horror game at first.

>>10081465
Apex is usually a bit higher. Everything else is normally lower than that though.

>>10081780
Selen solo apex is still in the 3-5k range. What are you on about?

>>10081839
I'm an idiot and didn't put down her usual range and just her Apex peaks. Yea, her apex streams are 3-5k range usually.

>>10081812
Dead space and Bioshock 1&2 are games that first lets you think they are a quiet mystery shooter game, only for it to turn into a horror bonanza. One's a space horror and the other is sea horror.

Where's the anon that has NijiEN numbers? Pretty sure they're inclining after this week

>>10080813
>>10080974
Debuff channel. Sana full gen collab got only 18k.

So after IRyS hit almost 8k today I decided to take a look at a bunch of her streams for the past couple weeks. I always said she was a guaranteed 6k but it seems that, aside from random ID collabs and debuff games, it seems to be a guaranteed 7-8k now with 12-15k for singing. She seems to be getting more popular and I think that is great. Her fanbase also seems super engaged, like, more so then you would think for a Holo of that size. Just look at her general here, it always moves super fast.

In a weird way its almost like her weird model actually worked out for her. While it may have turned off the casuals I think it made her loyalists just that much loyal. Almost like they saw the overall negative reception to her model and just dug their heels in harder and became that much more dedicated because of it to "prove the haters wrong".

Its quite fascinating looking at her incline.

>Selen (153k subs) 4200
>IRyS (638k subs) 3500

h-holobros..................

>>10082347
>>10082354
>the duality of numberfags

IRyS is the Holo with the least amount of letters in her name

>>10082367
Sorry anon, I know you mean well but that's not happening on this board, one of the most free to give (you)s across the site.
>>10082383
She started Titanfall II, finished it, then switched to Apex arenas after.

>>10082426
why would you lie about numbers

https://youtu.be/Tm28179erkY

>>10082140
Everyone without an ending debut buff should be inclining
People are settled back into school and have their schedules sorted out so now they can watch some streams.

>>10082367
I think we found our next op

>>10082354
7.7k peak, more than NijiEN's big collab stream with their 6 members. Yikes.

>>10082611
>that massive drop
Reminder that average viewers is more important than peak. If a streamer can't hold their viewers they're worth nothing.

>>10082590
Wait, are things actually normalizing now? At least in my country it isn't..

>>10082649
not sure about you but I'd drop the streamer as well if she stops Titanfall 2 and starts Apex instead

>>10082720
She finished the story, and rather than end the stream and start a new frame she decided to just continue on and move on to play Apex

>>10082649
>>10082720
>>10082770
She read superchats for like 20 mintues before playing APEX.

Will it possible for VSPO to expand out of Japan if they somehow mangae to get a strong English-speaking Apex player?

>>10082649
She read SCs for awhile and still held almost 4k doing that. Can NijiEN even get 1k for a SC reading?

>>10082848
Oh I feel so ashamed, I went to go grab dinner after she started SC readings and it didn't occur to me that that would tank the viewership
I need to hand in my numberfagging pass, I'm an absolute failure.

So have we got any other outside en2 collabs announced apart from this Kronii/Calli? They're also going with a huge debuff off the bat for whatever reason.

>>10079754
Pekora has been mogging the “king” for a week now. Seethe Nijinigger, seethe.

>>10082649
Looking at 5 of her most recent streams, looks like she's able to hold her viewers just fine. The ongoing titanfall stream, people left once she started reading SC before apex.

>>10083024
Bae/Kiara bomb defusal.

>>10083024
Ah, we also have ratchicken with the old mainstay, couple days after.

>>10083024
Kiara is collabing with Bae this week. Mumei next week (Minecraft relay).
She also has a collab planned with Bae/Sana/Haachama (Australian collab).

Its funny people want to shit on IRyS for some reason when her streams start at the end of NA primetime with the biggest debuff model in corporate vtubing and she still has good viewership.

>>10082911
No.
Also there's very little EOP overlap between Hololive watchers and Vspo.
Meanwhile there's a huge overlap between NijiJP clipwatchers and Vspo.
The biggest english discussion on Vspo is probably within niji circles like the main discord. If I remember correctly their discord has a channel specifically for discussing Vspo but none for any other companies.

>>10080578
That never happened. Holo is like a family, there are no fanwars.

>>10083180
This is true coupled with the fact that
>EN Vtuber watchers don't give a flying shit about Apex
>Apex scene in EN is pitiful compared to JP

The only FPS that worth a salt are CSGO and OW.

>>10083116
She failed to hold them in her last T2 stream too however. Might have something to do with her being shit at it.

>>10083163
Wait, Kiara is going to do an Aussie collab? Are the actual aussies going to teach the other two to swear and shitpost? At least Haachama has set foot in Australia.

>>10083292
It was a 6 hour stream that ended at 5AM EST lol

>>10083275
anon, OW fucking died. The game is shit, loads of the players fled, the OWL crashed and burned and blizzard has imploded.

>>10082426
Did you mean vowels?

>>10083292
she didnt change the stream title you usually change it when you play another game. like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l20K4O9CAwA 【 warzone VALORANT 】
or just retarded title like ame or kuzuha does.

>>10083316
They dropped massively past the 1 hour mark.

>>10083341
Where are the players now?
Wasn't there a large number of koreans pros? Did they jump to another esport like valorant or something?

>>10083421
You really need to try harder man. Hate her and cry about it all you want, but her numbers shit on NijiEN.

Why would anyone compare NijiEN and HoloEN? NijiEN should compare themselves to vshoujo.

>>10083647
VShojo are the queens of Twitch while both Niji and Holo mainly stream on YT. It makes more senses to compare NijiEn and HoloEN since they share the same platform

>>10083647
Comparing CCV of Twitch streamers can't happen due to raids.

>>10083501
But do they shit on Kiara? No. Her popularity is comparable to hers. There are also only two EN2 members slightly more popular than Kiara in EN2. It's safe to say that the holobubble in the West is about burst.

>>10083817
I don't think any holofans/bronies is denying that HolonEN2 is bad, with roasties and trannies involved and all that shit. But still there is no way NijiEN is gonna win in their current form.

>>10080079
You should probably try watching more if you know that little about so many of them.

>>10083163
>>10083298
Please Kiara stay away from the aussie trio 1st collab,
Go bother pekora or mori
At the very least, please just wait for the 2nd one

>>10083738
>CCV
what does it stand for?

>>10083426
I haven't followed many too closely but pretty sure most went to apex or valo. selly from crazy raccoon who played with Towa for 2 apex crcups basically refuses to talk about ow anymore and describes his time as a ow pro as traumatic.

>>10083955
ConCurrent Viewership
>>10083967
Makes sense, also I find it hilarious that the OW league is an utter failure. The game is absolutely terrible to watch as a spectator, the fact that this wasn't identified as an issue and instead they went full eSports anyways is just emblematic of the state of modern Blizzard.

>>10083955
cucumber view

>>10080079
You need some Watame and IRyS.

>>10083955
Concurrent Viewers aka Live Viewers

Beni almost 8k
I’m starting to think that valorant is picking up steam in japan
I remember seeing both zetawin and Laz trending very high on Twitter the day the game happened .

>>10084091
>>10084129
>ConCurrent Viewership
ty

>>10080618
Wait until the put a real nigger in there.
Everyone here is gonna lose their shit

>>10083024
orcs must die isn't a debuff, or at least it shouldn't be one , it's one of those hilarious meme games chock full with dated references that all those zoomers love, plus it has more than enough flashy stuff and explosions to keep their interest

>>10084135
Anon, Apex servers fucking died and everyone ran to Valorant. Once Apex wakes up it'll go away.

>>10080877
That's messed up. Why did they have to compare the girls' sub counts and rub it in Fubuki's face? All they've accomplished is make her feel bad about herself

>>10084091
>also I find it hilarious that the OW league is an utter failure.
It worked for a time, the issue is that blizzard began prioritising balancing for pros over casuals which killed the causal gamer audience, especially after the 2-2-2 role enforcement and the absolute proliferation of stun effects, and as they learnt too late you can't have a professional e sports league if there aren't enough casuals who understand the game in the audience

>>10084240
I mean its a tower defense game. They suck to watch.

>>10083275
>Csgo
Arguable
>OW
ahahahaha welcome to the land of seizure inducing particle effects and crowd control that makes you unable to even play the game.

>>10080877
>>10084304
Its pretty based. Absolute Apex predater behavior letting her know who's in charge now. I respect the hell out of chumbuds for having the balls to do that.

>>10084350
Regular tower defence games, maybe. This one also happens to be a TPS where you can see orcs die hilariously in various deathtraps.

>>10084386
Being rude to people irl is that opposite of based

>>10082361
THE OP IS WORKING

>>10084304
And some people will question why Gura is so hesitant to collab with the JPs

>>10084557
Did she tell off her fanbase for doing that?

>>10084551
kek, at first i was worried because op using cikin image that usually attract shitpost but it really is working huh

>>10084581
Why would she tell off 25,000 people watching a stream for something some falseflaggers did

>>10084551
The average level of English in that thread is absolutely appalling.

>>10084294
What if they die off permanently though? Reminds me of that time it got hacked only for the hacker to just release some message complaining about TF2 not getting fixed, some people were thinking that guy could have crashed it all and make it impossible for Apex to recover.

>>10084135
>Beni almost 8k
That's actually amazing. With 136k subs, no collab buff. The only potential buff is that very few people were streaming in her timeslot.

>>10084751
Judging from the response of Respawn he should've done that and saved us all the trouble.

Membership schedule (PDT):
9/20 - Kronii
9/22 - Baelz
9/24 - Mumei
9/26 - Fauna (+karaoke)

Sana is on a break. I think her schedule will be the last one.

>>10084751
>What if they die off permanentl
Kuzuha,Han..

>>10084135
Power of BENISEX

>>10085012
Well, if Apex is fucking RIP, we'll see how good the current Apex incumbent chubbas handle shifting to another game. Only the strong will survive.

>>10084675
Why not? Other bigger content creators have done so before.

>>10085051
>>10084751
battlefield arc inc

>>10084135
Thats nice, im surprised valorant is not popular in the vtuber en scene.

>>10085129
VSpo are doing their own valorant "tournament" soon. And a bunch of fpstubers have been forced to play it because the apex servers are dying.
It might just hold the popularity it has right now.

>>10084809
>no collab buff
Retard alert

No one mentioning it since it's not HUGE numberswise, but Polka pulling 8k on MK right now.
Perhaps, after her menhera arc of not streaming on the regular for a month+ and releasing a super depressing song, we can see an incline of Polka again as her mental health improves.
Then again I'm a sucker for people who decide to try and pull themselves back from the edge, who knows how things will go.

>>10085196
That'll only happen if she manages to keep up this pace though, and who knows how long she'll be able to keep it together for.

Anyone feel like creating a split without the meme image for the next thread?

>>10085196
She seems to burn out pretty easily. Didn't her talk show thing only last one episode? She needs to seriously commit to a schedule to see some incline or do another Shiraken Minecraft project.

>>10085405
It's still ongoing though, as far as i know it has been going for every week since the first one with translated subs.

>>10085502
That's Legend of Polka yea, and she was releasing that even when she wasn't streaming.

>>10085363
Fuck off

>>10085635
She did that series precisely because she can't stream regularly so those shorts are a good way to keep her channel alive. It's pretty much the only regular content her channel has

>>10085911
>she can't stream regularly
Why not? Is she still working part time?

>>10085881
t.op

>>10085363
I want to go back. I'd rather deal with some shitposting as opposed to having a dead thread like we do now.

>>10085963
I mean, the biggest reason its calm right now is because there aren't any big events. We've got memberships coming up next week so we can bludgeon each other with those numbers as they crop up. Schizos stealing images from here and posting them as bait is still happening, so its not like they're completely gone. Just, why shitpost when Kuzuha isnt' pulling 1st and the Holos are doing well CCV wise?

>>10085945
I have no idea, that's all information I got from one of her earlier episodes. It was in the opening for a fair bit.

>>10085963
Hey of you want shitposting so much there's a thread for you >>10082361

>>10085963
I'm not even talking about the dead thread, i'm talking about the numberfaggots not being contained.

>>10086059
Numberniggers still leak out regardless.

>>10085963
If you want to shitpost make a bait post outside of here. I am tired of you speedy general faggots getting mad there isn't a post every second.

I noticed that the topdogs usually don't take breaks. Is it because they don't take breaks resulting in a larger audience or is it because they have a larger audience, hence more stable income that they don't need to take breaks?

>>10086175
both

Tfw vtubers are complete midgets compared to the mainstream. A single man mogs the entirety of hololive giving their goodbyes to Coco.

>>10085963
Nah. I'm okay with this. Thread gets bumped consistently enough that it isn't really dead. Okayish discussion as well. If you wanna watch a bunch of seaniggers (like myself) chimpout trying to collect (you's) then the other split threads are there for you to visit.

Anyway, going back. I'm really impressed with Selen. She's definitely the runaway hit for both NijiEN waves. It also contextualizes why she had that menhera moment a couple of weeks back about feeling pressure. I really didn't get it at first since she's supposed to have a lot more freedom compared to other company chuubas but seeing her being in the spotlight and how NijiEN is trying to be more holo-like in terms of connecting waves, etc. I kinda feel that she felt obligated to hard carry the group in terms of numbers. I do worry that her main draw tends to be apex, a game that's not exactly popular with the EN market. The last thing I think anyone wants is to be known as a one trick pony. Hence why Botan stayed the fuck away from it when she joined Holo.

>>10086331
>impressed by midgets
Ngmi in the numbers thread. This isn't midget territory.

>>10086331
Everyone thought the Gura killer would be Petra but it was Selen all along

>>10083024
Putting memberships opening and members unarchive karaoke is cheating lol. Why do I have to open my wallet for this?

>>10086406
it's just another selen poster let him be

>>10086322
Absolute Chad beating the shit out of the reddit dragon.

>>10086462
She learned from the best boi, why do you think Gura has so effectively earned so many memberships?
>>10086489
Can see why YT wants to try and strip twitch of its high viewership streamers with numbers like those from a former Twitch top streamer.

>>10086471
Not exactly anon. I don't really watch her and most info I know is from here and the other split threads. I already have a full plate of Korone, Kronii, Gura and Haachama. No normal person can watch anymore than that with lockdowns finally easing up. NijiEN does interest me from a purely numbers perspective since this is the numbers and reception that I was expecting from HoloMyth after their debut buff wore off which goes to show how little faith I had for EN chuubas back then. I'd even say that this is what HoloMyth expected in terms of their growth before getting thrust into stardom.

>>10086462
Unarchived stuff is gonna pop up in the usual place anyway.

>>10086331
I think her limited voice pack sold out faster than Pomu's too (and she didn't need to bait her fans with operation/maybe dying)

>>10086322
Pekora is still above him in ccv

>>10084551
Meanwhile, Ollie getting 8k in a chess collab with Ina.

>>10086671
She baited her fans by nearly crying on stream after her shitty Apex tournament where she flipflopped between self pity and saying competitivefags are retarded (paraphrasing)
Your stance on intention can vary, I personally don't think it was on purpose as she threw the last match just so it could end, and she was upset the entire stream. But, I believe it's a factor in why her VPs sold out first.

>>10086872
What is her usual numbers? 2-3k?

>>10086934
>(paraphrasing)
More like gaslighting.

>>10086934
Wasn't that just the arena thing that doesn't really matter? Who cares about that? Nobody even watched it in comparison to the other games.

>>10086934
She got exposed hard during that tournament. Turns out she sucks at the game. I'd cry too since being good at Aoex was her only talent. Turns out she can't even do that well.

Meanwhile there's that big NijiQuiz collab going on with over 30k viewers already

>>10087102
Of course, either gen 3 announcement or nijiquiz will beat today's ranking.

>>10087204
>gen 3 announcement
Did I miss something? NijiEN 3?

>>10087204
kek no, the Holo Gen 3 annoucement.

>>10087255
Hologen 3 announcement my dude

>>10087294
>>10087255

>>10087255
Sugoi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2RSvnX2dtw

>>10087294
>>10087314
>>10087321
Oh, right, I'm a moron.

>>10087102
>NijiQuiz
This has to be the laziest content ever. Low effort garbage.

Better prepare your,

>The combined numbers of the 10+ members doing a Quizshow
>The combined numbers of the most popular generation giving a big announcement

>>10087204
Pffft, I will turn in my numberfagging license for the week if the Gen3 announcement + collab doesn't beat the NijiQuiz.

>>10087322
My bet is
>3d gen live inc
sceen it

>>10087369
The results will not shock anyone because the greentext misusing faggot has not posted in here all weekend.

The Hololive official channel is a debuff compared to having it just be on Pekora or Marine's channel.

>10087365
Has to be the laziest bait ever. Low effort garbage.

I have to say this impressed me.

ah fuck

>>10087372
I will post my boobs if it doesn't beat Nijiquiz.

>>10087464
Ollie has always thrived on "meme" content, like Olivia, reading Pi, chess streams...etc.
Unfortunately, you can't stream that stuff regularly and her favourite game is Apex, which she's awful at.

>>10087475
She’s playing it offstream with Hoshikawa lately IIRC, makes sense to play on stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je3EhjdNVBE
Kuzuha with some interesting game choices now that APEX is dead. I doubt he'll get many viewers on this though.

>>10087475
Must be some over9000 IQ master plan happening there

>>10087475
That's a weird one.

>>10087514
>her favourite game is Apex, which she's awful at.
She’s awful at chess too, but the novelty effect and the fact the audience can’t play it competitively either makes for good content

>>10087523
At least he'll get better numbers than Kiara on that game

>>10087503
Not saying it won't beat Nijiquiz, but 43k is a pretty big number to beat.
Then again, it's gen 3 so 40k+ is expected.

>>10087523
He'll get at least his usual numbers (25k+) for the first stream, but it might fall for the next few streams.
Kuzuha's "first" streams always do well. Look at his RE8 and recent Splatoon 2 stream.

>>10087503
Screencapped this

>inb4 it's man boobs
Then, keep it to yourself

>>10087523
The game is...well, who fucking knows? It's Kuzuha, maybe he can pull it off.
>>10087521
This feels like a very 5d chess move attack on Matsuri. Maybe I'm letting my schizo brain run too wild on that.

>>10087581
Kiara played Skyward Sword, not BOTW. Skyward sword is like, at least 4x worse than BOTW, no joke.
IMO If one of the chubbas decided to go crazy on BOTW speedruns, they might get some decent numbers because THOSE are a spectacle to behold. Lots of neat tricks that are crazy to watch and the length of each run is pretty short.

>>10087624
That's 100% schizo

>>10087523
He promised he'd play this months ago when tournament season is over, so he is just fulfilling it.

>>10087581
Kiara played Skyward Sword, not BoTW.

>>10087624
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/N_aSlW_78x0
Noel got 10k+ playing BoTW a year ago for 10+ episodes.
There's no way Kuzuha is going to play the game to completion since it's long, but numbers-wise, it's a JP fav.

>>10087624
That's haachamachama's fan for sure

>>10087596
>RE8
>Novelty buff + New game buff + DLC difficulty (Very hard) + He doesn't do horror all that much
>Splatoon 2
>Got boosted by Apex in the first hour
You bet he won't get as high as 35k if people didn't stay after his apex stream

>>10087726
>RE8
RE8 was a very special example and it annoying when people act like he's going to pull 50k easily when it was like you said, a lot of special circumstances. It's just one of the few examples of a story-driven game he's played.
>Splatoon 2
Eh, he peaked at 35k for splatoon 2, Apex was mostly in the 24-25k range.
There's not that many examples of him playing new games recently so the data sample is small, but I'm just saying he'll do fine with BoTW. It's not a debuff game for JPs anyways, at least for the first stream.

>>10087406
This might come true. Unlike Holo, Niji already cultivated a people who would come to their main channel. Holo ch might be a huge debuff.

>>10084343
That role enforcement is fucking atrocious. One of the easiest funny things you can do is 6 man teams and they removed it.

>>10087975
Remember back in the early days when you could have six Winstons doing a coordinated jump onto the point and the only stun was mcree's flashbang?
How did we go from that to the soulless husk that is modern day overwatch?

I know it will never happen but how big do you think the numbers would be of a Pekora/Kuzuha collab?

>>10088015
As another anon said, way too much focus on proplay and 'balance' instead of just being FUN first and foremost.
Blizzard has long lost its soul, and it shows.

>>10088067
25k dislike or more

>>10088015
I loved seeing 6 man Roadhogs. Probably my favorite character to watch and top tier for shenanigans.

>>10087406
True, prepare to see nijifags shitting on the collab because they fail to breach 100k

>>10088083
nah

>>10087369
I'm just gonna prepare my cope when gen 3 loses,

>Eh it's just an announcement on the Hololive channel of all places, it's a huge debuff.

>>10087523
>25k 20 mins in
The king's power... I'm sorry I doubted you.

NijiQuiz peaked at 48k. Oh please get 50k gen3. You are our only hope.

>>10088238
49 actually

>>10088238
It should do good? It is literally "IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT" for gen 3.
Not gonna be outfit numbers but these things always get attention.

>>10088238
>>10088270
Pretty even if isn't 3D, i'm pretty sure they'll easily go past 50k
I predict it'll peak at around 80k

>>10088286
Problem is, its on the Hololive Main Channel, Peko constantly mogs collabs being done on the main channel

>>10087365
It’s quantity over quality for Niji. Do you realize how Niji has 3x more streamers than Holo yet Holo mogs them in every metric?

>>10088311
That is if they make it past 1 hour. They gotta talk it out for at least 30 minutes before doing the actual announcement to get a nice peak.

>>10087365
>>10088347
Holotrannies, stick to discussing numbers only please.

>>10088392
Nijinigger I was talking about numbers aren’t I retard? Or does your monkey brain not see that?

>>10088392
Probably samefagging after everyone ignored him for an hour.

Gotta say I'm impressed. It's the same as Pekora playing GTA for the first time already.

>>10088586
He'll probably incline a bit more when Nijiquiz ends. Unironically better than his normal apex numbers, but it's the first time he's played something like this in a while so there's definitely a novelty factor too.
I really hope he does a 2nd stream of it so we get a better picture.

>>10088586
Because its not a competitive multi game like gaypex. Its something new

This NUMBER man. Is BOTW a bigger buff than GTAV or is Kuzuha stronger than Pekora? Who knows the answer to this puzzling question?

>30 min to go
>only 6.9k waiting
holobros...

>>10088725
Like one anon said....>>10087668

A promise fulfilled to fans is going to draw a bunch who got tired of APEX APEX APEX, and his usual viewers are going to be there as well.

>>10088725
Why did you repost again less than 10 mins from your previous post?
>>10088586

>>10088725
>Who knows the answer to this puzzling question?
Neither are buff games.
Kuzuha is playing a different game after months of FPS spam so his old fans are showing up.

>>10088911
But he already played Pokemon, Minecraft, Naraka and ARK, buddy.

>>10088957
>Pokemon
He spammed the fuck out of Pokemon Unite too for weeks
>Minecraft
Meme competition stream
>Naraka
2 shill streams that people watched for the collab chemistry between Kuzuha, Fuwa and Naraka and to see them fuck around in a Battle Royale
>ARK
He got 24k starting an ARK stream at 12am. If he played it at this timeslot, he would've gotten 35k+.

>38k
Bros... I can't... the KING... I have to kneel.

4 Minutes to go for the collab, time for some anons to either sigh in relief or get ready to eat dirt.

>>10089137
Anon there's no fucking way a full 3rd gen collab with announcement bait isn't going to break 50k.

>>10089168
I know, I know, but you never know, YT could decide to die on them midstream for example...

>>10089137
it won't pass kuzuha lol, only 15k waiting

>>10089179
Koshien had 20k-30k waiting but peaked 150k-205k.

>>10089168
It's 3D too.
30k in 2 mins.

>>10089267
LET'S GOOOOOOO GEN 333

41k 4 minutes in. The only complaint I can give is they really should fix their frames.

lol gen 3 is going to mog nijiquiz with a joke quiz to determine who does announcements.

>>10089131
>Kuzuha reached 39k. Not even prime time yet
Fuck he's gonna break my knees at this point

>>10089387
Done, 50k passed.
Honestly I don't even know why you would doubt this would pass 50k, even if its on the main channel. It's a goddamn announcement by the Strongest Generation.

>>10089399
Pack your bags already, Hololive kept their streak today

Yeah I don't see any individual talent beating this today. The two faceless corporations will have the first and second spots, but the KING will reign supreme at the top of the castle.

>>10089387
gen3 is more popular than 98% of nijisnaji expcet for maybe flare
is to be expected
A shame for kuzu since if he does a second part of BOTW the numebrs will be slashed in half.

>>10089399
Shut the fuck up nijinig, it's holochad territory now

>>10089453
Impressive numbers, once again goes to show that mixing up content is important as a streamer (not that that isn't obvious, but sometimes obvious lessons need to be re-stated)

>>10089453
Cope
Big numbers > small numbers

>>10089487
is not the first time e mixes content but the first episode of BOTW or other popualr games are alwasy great in numbers.

get out kuzuposter today not your day

the real question is can it beat horsepussy?

32k to go

>>10089594
Miko had like 17k when this was 60k.. and she just finished. maybe

>>10087503
Lol

holowhores only wining because it is a 3d collab. Kuzuha would mog them if he had it too.

This gen 3 collab already beaten holoen 1year collab

>>10089642
Cope your strongest males in a 3D collab couldn't break 50k.

>>10089642
>Nijiniggers forgetting about the 3D poker collab.
Kek

>>10089642
Your poker got trash number kuzubro
Quiz>poker

>>10089642
good bait, hurry bring out the pokerchase numbers

>>10089642
don't look..

>>10089646
Ofc its a scuffed 1year but still gain 70k consistent views
>Wait till they get real 3D too
Also didn't 2 members of myth reach 100k+ with just their new outfit announcement?

>>10089642
>>10089683
>>10089686
>>10089688
>>10089699
>>10089703
>holobronies replying to themselves

>>10089743
>trying to pit holo against holo
Nice trey nijinigger

>>10089642
Already mogging Nijis even though the collab is on Holo Main Channel
If this collab was on Marine or Pekora's Channel it'll definitely have higher numbers

>>10089793
Its their most effective weapon, pitting holos against each other

This was an unannounced 3D as well by the way.

>>10089745
You already lost, pack your bags

>>10089798
strongest members 3D collab not even reaching 100k is a failure

>inb4 gen 3 announcement gets mog by Mao's 3D tomorrow
You had it coming, holofags. I warned you.

>>10089745
Nijicope

>>10089837
Lost what? I don't see any individual holowhore beating Kuzuha today. I didn't give a fuck about the Niji channel getting more than him either.

>>10089793
Dumb fuck
>Read the thread I replied too he pointed numbers of EN and JP collabs

Nijinigger trying to bait
>trey
ESL

80k come on

>>10089856
Like i said, its because it wasn't broadcasted on Peko or Marine's channel.

>>10089906
Big number > Small number
Cope more

>>10089875
Is it a 3D Debut??

>>10089922
Done.

>>10089856
You should cope about the males 3D not breaking 50k.

>>10089925
cope, your five strongest members cant even bring 20k each

>>10089906
just post your usual August 6 number and be done with it kuzubro

>>10089949
Yes, might had it wrong though. All i remember is it is before KuzuhMTG/Rikka3D

why is flare winning the popularity contest?

>>10089979
and your pokerbros can't even bring 15k each

>>10089968
4 of your strongest males couldn't bring 12k each kek.

83k I FUCKING KNEEL

>>10090011
It's not a popularity contest you mong, they're doing a quiz to determine who gets to make the announcement, and Flare won it overwhelmingly.

>>10090062
sorry......

>>10089997
>Rikka3D
?

Why are you guys getting baited by the obvious kuzunigger? Also they actually beat the horse racing idols stream

>>10090108
Rikka 3D debut is on the 23th. KuzuhaMTG on the 23th too. Mao's 3D debut is before that, but I forgot the actual date. Holodex isn't helping either, she hasn't put her stream up yet.

>>10089949
Yes but shes a sub 2k shitter and not furen level of popularity. People here hyped emma before but her 3d debut only peaked max 40k

>>10090134
>Rikka 3D debut is on the 23th
It's Temma. Rikka debuted last year already.
Numbers are going to be bad because Temma's normal numbers are BAD.

86k people watching this shitty ass laggy 3D. Cover is truly quantity over quality.

>>10090197
3D poker collab…

90k on a Monday, sugoi..

>>10090188
Oh yeah shit, I got their names mixed up. Rather hard to remember him. He plays good DbD but he doesn't stream daily, the recipe for success.

>>10090273
it's a holiday apparently

>>10090197
3 of my favorite holos are there, so I'll endure the low fps laggy 3D shit they're presenting

>>10090197
the FPS isn't that much of an issue because they're just doing a quiz.

>>10089642
>holowhores only wining because it is a 3d collab. Kuzuha would mog them if he had it too.
kek, good bait, look at all these (you)s.

>>10090273
stop making shit up it didnt even reach 90k

>>10090345
it will though because I watch Holo you massive nonce.

>>10090345
>89.3K
I mean i give by now

>>10090345
Here's your (you) bitch, 90k get.

>>10090345
kek

this actually beat horsepussy, i kneel...........

>>10090345
dang, nice bait

>>10090345
It did though,
Anyway where the fuck was the LiveTL go? There was one on the start, I can't understand anything