/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>10040919
Kiara is the one that carried the whole HoloEN. The others are meh at best, but Kiara really set the pace for the other 4 to follow.
Thats cover biggest catch so far and if you dont agree you have shit taste and should take your meds.

>>10040973
Why are falseflaggers/kfp like this?

Be happy that you enjoy them this much, cause it's all subjective and to some they're the worst in history

>>10040919
This is true

>>10040919
No doubt they're a talented group, but you have to admit a lot of their success came from good timing above all else. Right before they debuted hololive was already getting a lot more EOP traffic thanks to Coco and clips (this is an observation, not saying this things are good or bad schizos). So once they debuted it drew in the people who only watched clips, the people put off because they don't speak Japanese and the previously established EOP hololive audience. Their charisma and group chemistry carried them the rest of the way.

>>10040984
>egg was broken for this post
take your meds

MythCHAD thread

>>10040973
Agreed, Holomyth wouldn't have been this successful without Kiara.

>>10040919
I really liked how Myth was part of the greater Hololive but for a year they were almost completely insulated with each other. The dynamics were limited to between the 5 of them and other idols were more of references for conversation than being a part of their life, from our pov. Also, they came out at the peak of the Vtuber boom leading to a lot of viewers and strength. 3 are great talents, 1 adds some chaotic energy, and Calli, well they can't all be winners but at least she gets along with the rest. Now with a 2nd EN generation, Irys, UMISEA and other collabs, it really feels like that Anniversary stream was a farewell to an era.

how the fuck is Gura a "meme queen" she's boring as hell

>>10041335
agreed, everyone else could be dropped or replaced and it would still be succesful, but without Kiara EN would've totally fail 100%

>>10041392
Kek Mori really is the weakest link of the group, you can remove her and no one will give a fuck.

>>10041392
>Basing success on what anon?
It's just your build up parasocial thinking and not their actual talents LMAO

>>10040919
All they have to do is quit numberfagging and micromanaging scouts.
That's it.
That's the secret.
Omega wanted an ARG with big dick content producers and you can't force these things.

>>10041432
Same to Ina and gura too so?

>>10041462
Cope deadbrap

>>10041432
Ogey

https://streamable.com/tj6etj
This thread in a nutshell.

>>10041497
well she is the Queen of Hololive, there is no way to talk about Hololives without mentioning Kiara

>>10041479
Cope cumcocks/takocums LMAO can't accept that they dont contribute anything unlike mori with songs and collab LMAO

>>10040919
>Hypes up their individual talents and muh numbers to try and downplay how horrible they are together in collabs.
ENfag 101. Unfortunately for you, group chemistry is not something you can put on a chart or a resume. It either exists or it doesn't and EN is extremely lacking in this department. I'm sorry EN2 didn't give you a good alternative since you won't look outside Hololive for it.

>>10041516
No but the UMISEA song ain't it..idk who think releasing that was a good idea but it's not good for me

>>10041516
No one wants those shitty songs LOL

>>10041572
>>10041560

>>10041592
>Comparing 1 bad song to 10 bad songs
Deadbraps...

>>10041598
>10 bad songs

The cope is unreal

>>10041560
>>10041572
ESL? I'm not talking about those forced collab by the company, just so they can collab with JP holo

>>10041640
SURE

>>10041598
Coping too much anon?
Numbers don't lie unless your seething LMAO

>>10041675
>Popular = good
Lmaoooo deadbraps are this delusional

>>10041715
>>10041654

>>10041715
Cumcocks/takocums can't really accept the truth huh?
>imagine telling someone delusional when youre seething and coping LOL
SEAnigs are active today

I think less popular streams are more comfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT0ef4aQ5ZI&t=704

>>10041760
Rent free faggot I'm not even part of those fanbases you mindbroken retard.

>>10041437
I don't know what you're trying to communicate.

>>10041829
We both know you're lying

>>10041829
>Telling someone rent free when you keep seething and coping LMAO
Classic SEAnig reaction, SEA is active today huh? what happen to SEAnigs thread?

>>10041862
>I don't know what you're trying to communicate.
ESL LMAO

Myth is based, I was so disappointed by the council. I'm sticking with Gen 1 because they've got soul, I love these bitches.

>>10041898
>>10041905
Holy shit just because you're using two devices does not mean I can't see through your samefagging deadbrap.

>>10041955
Learn how IP works anon
>New in /vt/ + SEAnig LMAO nice
>Using 2 device in /vt/?

>>10041977
Stop lying deadbrap

>>10041559
>Gurame
Kino
>Gurina
Rare but kino, see Portal 2
>bonebros
Kino
>Guara
Kino and I don't even like Kiara, see language streams and that one Minecraft stream recently where among other things they both said that they wanted to be scene kids but their moms didn't let them
>conclusion
Gura has fantastic chemistry with every other Myth member
Feels good to be a chumbud

>>10041924
>>10041977
what is a SEAnig?

>>10042001
>Rent free still in the deadbrap? chumcocks? seems like SEAnigs are emotionally unstable

>Calli is going to be the second most subbed vtuber in Hololive
How does this make you feel?

>>10042032
Anon if you're here long enough you will know

>>10042038
indifferent i just dont watch her good for her i guess?

>>10042025
Ye Gura is a comfy collab, she just feels like she's hanging out with her friends. You get a lot of fun moments when she'll just ask them something about a nostalgic thing for her or if they've seen some dumb video or something.

Good times.

>>10041002
Not to mention lockdown helped a lot

>>10042070
I think it means Southeast Asia but I haven't figured it out yet. I've been watching holos for 10 months now but I've only been on /vt/ recently.
Being on a thread live for Mumei's stream was the most fun I've had in a while

>>10042114
fuck off with your retarded owl newfag

>>10042114
>Snoozeowl in a myth thread
Gross anon

>>10042114
Why are you here? Go back to your split. This is the myth drama thread and I'm destroying these deadbraps right now not gonna lie.

>>10041432
This applies more to Ame than Mori. At least Mori would put out songs and be chosen to do events by Cover. Ame literally contributes nothing to Hololive and if she graduated, nothing would change

>>10040919
I think the major difference with Myth was that none of them thought they where gonna be successful. None of them joined for fame or money, they joined for passionate or curiosity reasons. I think this mindset has made all the difference.

>>10042264
Kys Ame is the heart of hololive and Mori is nothing.

>>10042287
This, they joined because they have SOUL and Wanted to show the world their SOUL money was always secondary

>>10042294
Heart of Hololive ? kek Stolen unoriginal things and Tummy Hurt is Hololives Heart ? ngmi

>>10042294
I would say go watch you oshi stream teacuck, but she probably cancel it

>>10042294
I would agree if its anyone else but ame really?

>>10042331
Kys Ame anti, Myth wouldn't be as good without Ame's influence and you know it stop being an anti.

>>10042287
Even Kiara, who was a huge fan, did not think it would be a huge thing, she didn't think it would be a sustainable income. She thought it would be a fun side-hustle while she did other things. Mori picked it up as a second job while still doing her "reaping" to keep the lights on, just another kind of gig.

SOUL.

>>10040919
>Gura is a meme queen and introduced Hololive to new audiences like no other talent, also has natural charisma.
Coco....
yeah, another "hey i have this argument. yeah, i only watch EN"

>>10042209
I just want to know what a SEAnig is ;_;

>>10042359
Yes , myth would probablynot be as good, but even better, if someone more talented had gotten her spot

>>10042376
How about Council?

What happened to Ame in the AM?

>>10042417
Yeah you're just an anti, stop replying.

Ina has a normal big asian artist skill, really nothing special. Takokeks need to stop exaggerating

>>10042423
I don't know or care. Gen 2 is shit.

>>10042177
Are holoEN fags calling other people newfags now ?
This thread is absolute newfagottry and EOP/globalkek circlejerk

>>10042469
Make me faggot ! That´s what this Board is for Uncensored unadulterated opinions , blame the anon who brought Ame up it was all hunky dory before then tecucks cant take their oshi being the least relevant

>>10042423
All of council knew they'd be massive hits, if anything, they would have expected to be bigger than they are currently.

>>10042470
But she can d-draw..

>>10042430
1 month break just like Holotalk had one too recently. She was busy with the anniversary and recovering from health issues. Back next week

>>10040919
HoloMyth is fucking TRASH, only Gura and Ina are worth something... Amelia, Mori and Kiara are talentless whores who should be graduated as soon as possible.

>>10042544
I saw sana's drawing vod and it have at least high views is she good and comparable to Ina like how /vt/ proudly spam..
>Ina killer?

>>10042423
You could make a bonfire with the amount of deadwood in that gen.

>>10042331
> Stolen unoriginal things
Like boring flavor of the day streams?
muh henry stickman good
> Tummy Hurt
Says the guys who’s oshi had to go on multiple menhera breaks just to reap in the reds from sad loners afterwards
Keep coping

>>10042676
Don't reply to him he's just coping because his Oshi is the most unneeded myth.

>>10040973
I'm happy for you KFPs, anywhere else Kiara would have gave up and graduated by now, but in myth your oshi gets to ride everyone else's coattails to moderate popularity. Guess you really don't need to have any talent or personality to succeed in this business if you're lucky enough.

>>10040919
good, we won't get another disaster

>>10042430
She probably canceled it and will speed out if you bring it up like fish tank

>>10042661
No, please don't ever make her draw with Ina. That's what happened to Iofi. Ever since she drew together with Ina in a collab all her drawings began to look like third-rate garbage.

>>10042754
Classic LOL

>>10042754
why is she so thin skinned anyway? literally anything chat brings up can send her over the edge ,simply dont announce/promise things you have no intention to do

>>10042823
The meme..
>thanks for your feedback lol
Maybe its just her own nature

>>10042899
to be honest i admired her expert chat/tard wrangling at first but nowadays she seems like her own fanbase is getting to her

>>10042899
She asks for feedback and if it is outside the hugbox that is her comment section, she gives out replies like this. I would understand if it was a total troll, but you would think she would be able to just ignore it or delete the comment like an adult.

>>10040973
I know right? By being bad, Kiara makes everyone else look good!

>>10040919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w

>>10043049
She then addressed all the things in that comment on her very next stream. But you don't watch streams, you just jerk off in these split threads taking all of this garbage at face value because you're an ESL subhuman.

>>10043165
Did she also address saying lol on an honest feedback?

>>10043049
I guess she never learned to be an Adult anon...

>>10042409
Someone from South East Asia (or at least you think they are) that you want to insult.

>>10043185
What's wrong with saying lol?

>>10043207
It's childish and insincere

>>10043207
laughing at somebody is the best way to appreciate and validate people caring enough to give feedback , in what world ?

>>10043275
>>10043277
Why do you take internet lingo so seriously, lol

>>10041775
literally who?

>>10043327
the lingo is irrelevant, the disrespect it shows is not

>>10043390
You assume everyone has bad intentions like you do, huh? lol

>>10043412
Explain why she added lol there then?

>>10042423
Aside from Sana and arguably Baelz, the other 3 definitely went in because they knew they would have at least moderate success.
As to why I left Baelz out, she's already been horny for Roberu since her previous chuuba life, heck her lore was literally just horny for Roberu back then. Idk about you but I'm down to 3some with my winning son.

>>10043412
woah there cowboy this is definetly not the first time ame showed massive disrespect to fans how am i supposed to not assume she doing the same she did for month`s now ?

>>10043165
I do watch streams and she never brought it up. The stream from the next day was her watch along and the boomerang X it was never brought up. Unless she mentioned in some super secret stream that only you watch, take your meds.

>>10040919
I love HoloMyth! Watching their first year has been a once-in-a-lifetime ride and no matter what happens they've left a solid foundation for future HoloEN generations

>>10043449
Why do most people on the internet add lol at the end when they're not actually laughing? Don't take it so seriously.
>>10043490
>saying lol
>massive disrespect
Jesus, what a baby.
>>10043554
It's at the end of the Code whatever watch along, educate yourself retard.

>>10043737
go ahead you can think of me as a baby anon but my point still stands its just kinda sad you really dont seem to get her social cues and her disdain she has for her fans these last few months

>>10043884
Yeah, ooh, such disdain. Her saying "lol" in response to criticism that she then took to heart has completely reversed my feelings for her.

>>10043884
I mean you really can't reason with these guys, he probably still masturbates to the thought of having Ame as his girlfriend while rocking that gosling avatar on steam.

>>10040919
>>10040919
>>10040919

Remember to give credit to Omegaα, she was the one who started it all

Myth and Council wouldn't have such great lore and backstories without her

>>10044001
Not everything is about that lol, you retard , im also talking about her past behaviour ,nice pic of the rolling credits she stole from Bae btw

>>10041618
Yeah it's actually more like 19 bad songs, if you include her collabs/covers.

>>10044003
>I, the reasonable /vt/ poster, am reasonably certain that the witch Amelia Watson showed massive disrespect to her fan by ending a sentence with lol. It is certainly not because I have an unreasonable dislike for this girl, it's the world that is unreasonable.

>>10044084
>Bae invented rolling credits
Wow, not only are you an ESL retard, you're also just plain extremely retarded.

>>10044100
Stop projecting

>>10043474
Fauna's roommate hits between 200k and 1mil views on most of her video so I doubt she cared that much about success.

>>10044122
You´re free to think what you want anon but you are not helping your case jumping back to Insults when you are running out of arguments , bae was the first to use those credits in holoen , also Ska shiny smiley story When ? Worms Collab nuked 8 minutes before the start , she doesnt fucking care and thats why she`s a bitch

>>10044022

>>10044230
So you admit that you don't watch Amelia, huh? She's had scrolling credits at the end of her streams for superchatters/new members long before Bae was even revealed. And yet you claim to know how she's been acting to her fans for the last few months? lol. lmao. Heard it secondhand from your little seaniglet friends here, huh? You're a gullible idiot who believes everything they read here?
>>10044124
I accept your concession.

>>10044230
>Thinking using credits makes their oshi good

LMAO Brats really are pitying their own oshi huh?

>>10044022
omegalul is the man marine spoke to mid last year, has done nothing to actually help Myth at all in any context.

When Kiara speaks fondly of "JenMA" she's saying her "GenMAtes" are helping her, but doesn't want to outwardly be critical of management because Japanese company pls andastand

>>10044326
True LMAO Amelia strated it like 2 months ago when she ends stream
>Councilfags are different breed of people

>>10044348
not even my oshi

>>10044326
no i dont watch her anymore i jumped the ship when her bullshit started my time is not for bitchy ungrateful women but for farming tasty (you)`s from anons

>>10042729
SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Kiara is very talented! she must be even the most talented in HoloEN! even Hololive as a whole! she carried hard HoloEN so be thankful to her!
Fucking eggschizos take your meds

>>10044596
What a sad life you lead, my little indog friend.

>>10043089
>rent free
Discord eggs are working extra today I see

>>10043202
thanks for your answer, I was very confused haha :D
Now stop spoonfeeding you faggot! get the fuck out lol

>>10043737
>It's at the end of the Code whatever watch along, educate yourself retard.
If you mean where she mentions changing her obs settings and her GPU exploding or not saying how long the stream will be then, you really do need meds.

>>10040919
There easily couple be a group as strong as Myth hell even as strong as JP 3 but management and scouting got to get their heads out of their asses.

>>10044709
Look harder, retard. Come on, you can do it. I believe in you!

>>10044138
Fauna was a hololive Myth fan and Amesame shipper before she got in, actually it seems her whole former circle was into hololive I've seen the one that got mad at her for ghosting talking about Rushia and shit.

>>10044393
Do you have a clip of marine talking about Omega or are you pulling this out of your ass?

>>10044647
wrong again anon i dont speak even 1 word of Bahasa , are you done defending your breadeater now ? or will you give me even more (You)`s? maybe i can trade them in with ame for your Charity song

>>10044230
>you're
your*
Stupid, your argument is invalid!

>>10044022
Shut up and fucking fire omega.

Stupid lore bullshit ruins everything, HoloCouncil has to pretend and follow a script and that makes it all false, mumei is retarded because the fucking script says so maybe she's not really like that.
Stop with the damn lore, the girls should build their own lore over time.

>>10044402
>strated
ESL confirmed

>>10044022
so much this! Omega its the real hero of HoloEN, cant wait for her to debut so I can throw reds SC to her

>>10044930
How can a manager debut it wont happen

>>10045027
just you wait and see, you will sc her too, Omega will be the true Gura killer

>>10045154
this is as Likely as Ame ever delivering that Charity Song

>>10044868
>Cant use common sense
>Started
>Calling ESL because of typo

Basically like her oshi LMAO Brats are really retarded and pathetic huh?

>>10044799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFfutMHp7io

Yeah, here you go.

>>10045220
nobody cares about the rrat anon

>>10045220
took your time to google how its properly written dont you?
>cant
remember: is can't

>>10045154
Holostars don't make a lot of money from supachats, anon.

>>10044653
>Everyone I don't like MUST be part of discord, not some naturally grown antis as of result of spamming the board full of "ProKiara" propaganda!
Yea, look. I get it, there absolutely exists a contingent of anti-kiara sentiment stoked by some discord idiots, but it doesn't help that KFP feels that their only recourse is to spam and clog the board back instead of just ignoring the goddamns bait!

>>10044839
ESL

>>10045276
you took your damn time, now go fuck your self

>>10045356
I went to get lunch. Maybe you could've just searched for it yourself?
Yikes.

>>10045324
>Just because you BRATS doesn't have a life and thinks that someone should react fast enough to your liking is so retarded and pathetic LMAO
>Seems like Brats are revealing their behavior early on than any council fags

>>10045324
Anon learn what ESL is all about you faggot

>>10045344
nobody outside that discord dislike Kiara eggschizo, take your meds
>>10045395
you could at least search first and then go to lunch, why are deadbraps like this?

>>10045177
When both of these thing manifest please remember to kys

>>10045476
>>10045446
Learn some english I can't understand anything you are saying ESLchama

>>10045476
Come back when you're EFL.

>>10045489
>you could at least search first and then go to lunch, why are deadbraps like this?
Why? I made a post informing you of a fact, my life exists outside of you. I replied with a link as soon as I returned and saw you ask for context.

I typed "Marine Holo en manager" into youtube, it wasn't something you couldn't have done yourself. but you seemed angry and confrontational about it. Other posters aren't here for you, Anon, we don't have to do things for you.

>>10045446
Your obsession with the rrat is kinda scary

>>10044850
Mumei will stay autistic until Omegaα says so

If anything she's not being retarded enough for the part, she still has moments of clarity

>>10045518
>>10045548
Classic same tagging LMAO

>>10045628
fuck off with your retarded owl we got enough autists on this board as it is

>>10045557
wow there bud, why are your so worked up? you made a mistake, just say sorry and move on, next time be faster thats all.

>>10045686
Yikes.

KFP seem to be extra cancerous today. Spazzing out on multiple threads, rather than just staying contained in one.
I wonder how much your oshi would hate you, if she found out that you were the worst of cancer in the vt community?

>>10040973
She brought down the bar and allowed council to be what it is

>>10045710
yup, thats what I say, yikes dude, chill.
>>10045814
Every single thread someone ends up talking about her, its not our fault everyone its so jealous of her ;)
>>10045879
>rent free
go back to discord and please do yourself a favor, take your meds

>>10042287
>>10042376
>I think the major difference with Myth was that none of them thought they where gonna be successful
>Even Kiara, who was a huge fan, did not think it would be a huge thing, she didn't think it would be a sustainable income
You guys are fucking killing me. This was Hololive in February before big EOP Korona boom. Bandaid, Miko nigga clips and Azur Lane collab etc etc was already at work during that time. Joining Hololive was guaranteed success even during that time. What you wrote only applies on anything that was before Gen 4. After that, not so much.

>>10042114
fuck off cuck

>>10045814
We can't help who eggs seethe at, sadly.

>>10046546
>>10045947
>>10045489
>>10044653
>>10044600
>>10044393
>>10040973
>>10041053
>>10041335
>>10041348
>>10041413
why are kfp like this?

>>10040919
EN 2 needs to stop tweeting, starting streaming. They take so many breaks off as compared to EN 1 during their debut month. One of the things that made EN 1 a success today was because they fully capitalize their strengths from the get-go. Ouro, Mumei and Fauna did well. Sana delays her drawing streams nearly a month and what is baelz supposed to do? Bore us to death with kusoges?

>>10046768
Kronii and fauna i can see but Mumei ?bitch please she`s boring as fuck

>>10046791
You sound jealous that Mumei is the best member of the council and has the best streams.

>>10046768
Anon acting like it's impossible to get a competent gen since EN2 management and Council are shitting the bed

>>10046768
EN1 was an entirety right place right time kind of thing. Had Myth switched debut dates with Council or even NIJIEN, we would be having the same conversation, but with them as a point of reference instead.

wow i’m actually starting to hate myth now. good job fags

>>10046816
debatable, a retarded owl is hardly anything to be jealous of the whole council is pretty weak but mumei is by far the worst

>>10046891
Prove it schizo

>>10046878
I mean hating them should be norm. Myth is responsible for the garbage that is western vtubing

>>10046878
Getting influence by /vt/ thread take your meds anon

>>10046930
keep seething LMAO

>>10046924
proving subjective opinions , do you even listen to yourself anon ?

>>10046723
>leechposting
go fuck yourself! Kiara its not a leech go take your meds

>>10044754
>Amesame shipper before she got in,
And now here comes the teamates using Revisionism on things.

Fuck off. You cry foul when you get the vocaroo and the catbox of LL shipping Calligula but then completely go out of your way to revise it.

>>10047136
Streamer reflects the Fanbase Anon

>>10044022
>she

>>10046254
An English branch was a huge unknown at the time. Half the people thought it would just be an ultra-cringe disaster, and lesser negative outcomes where also very strong possibilities. The myth girls themselves have each stated they all thought they wouldn't be that successful. Ame thought she'd hit 100k after a year, and hell, Mori literally thought she'd be actively hated and never go anywhere at all.

>>10045177
Her charity song will be delivered when she does either her Charity RFA stream or her Korean Duolingo

>>10048941
So ... never ?...

>>10048764
>An English branch was a huge unknown at the time
Yeah no. The reddit review was already getting huge ass numbers before EN. When EN1 was announced reddit literally exploded. The hype machine was unstoppable during that time and anyone who thought they would a flop is simply delusion.
>Ame thought she'd hit 100k after a year
Hilarious beyond belief.

>>10042032
(You)

>>10046791
>>10046816
>>10046891
>>10046924
>>10046990
sheesh why are Owlfags like this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklU9vOQLXA

HoloMyth + Irys = Soul
HoloCouncil + Omega = Soulless

>>10051665
Council was a mistake

>>10050711
Regardless of how "deluded" you think they were, expectations were extremely low on both sides. It's obvious why they weren't expecting a lot of success before debut.

https://streamable.com/jnjzmk

>>10042112
agreed, between Coco, Haachama, and the lockdown it was amazing timing on Cover's part, I don't think it detracts from what OP said but that's definitely something to note.

With Myth there was barely any expectations because people thought they'd have Funimation VA levels of voices, or whether they would be interesting. So when they quite literally blew expectations it was truly something special, especially considering all of them joined out of passion. But with Council, they joined after the hype and with an interest in just joining a big company from one of the members especially.

>>10040919
myth is trash. they're just coasting off of having not any competition for so long. they're set to recline fast. they are not good streamers and their attitude toward streaming is becoming entitled and lazy.

Having no Kiara dragging down everyone already makes it superior. But current day Myth is garbage outside of Gura anyway.

>>10044850
>Mumei stops acting like a forgetful owl girl that makes birb noises when flustered
>suddenly she becomes a scatterbrained normal girl that can't protect her processing speed with kayfabe
No, fuck that. I like my owl girl "retarded" and cute.

>>10048764
>Mori literally thought she'd be actively hated and never go anywhere at all.
She was right on the first half.

>>10054605
>>10054644
Based. HoloMyth is fucking garbage and it's only relevant because they leeched off of HoloJP's success.

>>10055918
Cope

>>10055899
If by that you mean being actively hated by some anons on /vt/ then sure, I guess... She's still one of the most beloved vtubers in the industry. Whether she realizes it or not is another story.

>>10046852
i dont think this is true. gura is genuinely one of the most tapped in ppl to viral meme culture on earth and she does it completely naturally without being forced zoomer bait and she hits every demo hololive appeals to.
ina is legitimately one of the best anime illustrators on the planet and streams her art constantly, totally chill vibes from minute 1, she has a huge built in audience on those things alone
how completely unique her music is wouldve carved mori a huge slice immediately if not still just led to her straight up dominating the vtuber music world like she does now. fact of the matter is not a single vtuber has dropped anything even remotely on the level of RIP as their intro and i think it would be almost as explosive now as it was at the time.

ame and kiara would have more trouble finding their footing probably because their appeals aren't as immediately obvious and it took ame a while to start becoming the amazing trendsetter she ended up as and kiara to start bridging communities with holotalk etc

im of the opinion that cover specifically chose en2 as rough around the edges talents they could nurture rather than go for surefire picks like they did with myth, but maybe im giving them too much faith

>>10054605
>So basically council?
Still council doesn't have any talents besides coomerbaiting fat cucks like you LMAO

>>10054605
>>10054644
>>10055918
>Is this how councilfags cope and seethe with their untalented oshi?

>>10040919
its fine to think that Myth is the best group, and it is fine to think that Fauna has the best armpits too

>>10040919
I thought about this recently myself. Especially the Council debut made me realize how much the original five have grown on me. And it feels like the girls themselves know it, too, because they seem more relaxed and comfortable now. And they should be.
Such a joy it is, watching people grow.

what about them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpJR9FDW5no

>>10040919
where are we getting all these newfrens from? EN didn't start strong as they did. It took months of effort to get to where they are now. Go watch Ina's debut and compare it to her now