/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>50463381
idk i don't watch stars to know if holo ban lists also affect them. they're probably letting it slide since it was green lit before

>>50453869
Because JP homos know how to behave

Meanwhile, to the surprise of absolutely nobody, Nijisanji is still able to play it, because they're not run by a bunch of retards terrified that their own shadow might send a copystrike. I mean, they ARE run by a bunch of retards, but they're retards who let their streamers actually fucking stream things, so they have that going for them, I suppose.

>>50463654
This is it. The ultimate ENfag cope complete with sufficient shitting on JP.

>>50464243
Their behavior is irrelevant when they don't get collabs to begin with.

>>50463819
Yes.
Who is better at using the model?
Which aspect of vtubing is most valued? Perhaps it is comfiness and not laughs.
I didn't say any definites. I literally said "it's not so clear"

>>50464490
You talked about hours streamed.

>>50462253
explain >>50454731

>>50464534
This is why I called you autistic.
There was no relation between that sentence and hours streamed.
It was literally a statement on which metrics has the most value for different aspects.
It's already been established that for streaming, hours watched is the best metric so I posed the thought of what makes the best vtuber.

>>50464265
Nah, I have nothing against jp, they acted quite logically. The jpgen's have been elevated to the 2020 En level. The mistake was that En alone was unable to stay afloat.

>>50464668
>It's already been established that for streaming, hours watched is the best metric
So are you claiming that Marine is a less popular streamer than Watame or not? She has less hours watched. She's not even top 10.

>>50464984
Im annoyed at you using Marine to shit on Watame.
I have literally said that if Marine streamed more, she would show up on those charts, number 1 even.
I literally said it's no so clear who the best vtuber is, I said that because you were annoying me with being a little faggot about Watame

>>50451999
We're gonna need an Omega Fred Flintstone edit stat.

Yes I know he may or may not still be there but still he's emblematic of the dislikable/tone-deaf side of EN management.

>>50465259
he's still there i can't believe people fall for the "he's fired" shit again when he literally debunked the last "he's fired" rrat by suddenly appearing again out of nowhere to shill tempiss2
at best you can make an argument that he got demoted to only manage holostars because he clearly had a lot of power before

>>50451860
yes

>>50451999
Nevermind the foreskin and urethras and shit, I clocked out once the narrator started describing a rectal orgasm in detail as a cock flopped around with a vibrating dildo up its ass. I'll freely admit I'm an otaku loser who collects all of the Goodsmile Hololive figures, but when they make Bae I'm not buying any of her shit

>>50465133
How am I shitting on Watame? I'm simply asking is Watame more popular than Marine because that's what your favored "hours eatched" charts say.
You seem very hesitant to give a clear answer for some reason despite claiming that "hours watched" is the best metric for streamer popularity.
This "best vtuber not so clear!!!" derail is just you avoiding the question.
Is Watame more popular than Marine? Yes or no.

>>50465502
I'm sure she's hurt that some random stranger won't be buying her merch boohoo. That'll show her!

>>50465522
You weren't saying more popular until recently and it's still not relevant.
You started shitting on watame right here >>50460653
Its nijinigger behave to holo v holo.
Just because Pekora is objectively the most watched female streamer in the world, doesn't mean Watame isn't amazing.

>>50451860
>this difference in replies to IPs
So probable half are legit replies or people taken by bait and the rest tribefags and catalog spammers bumping the thread. Am I right?

>>50454370
They could collab with anyone they wanted... provided they got invited first(Like by Aki, Matsuri, Fubuki, etc)

>>50463852
when? where? I want to see. Please link it

>>50465771
>3 to 1 ratio
Are you retarded? Is this your first board?

>>50456770
>Gura uses fart noise to play the Jewish song, and her fans are spamming the chat about it being the bankers theme and saying Kanya West did no wrong
Yeah me

>>50465693
>You weren't saying more popular until recently
I said it right from the start.
>and it's still not relevant.
So you are again trying to back away from saying anything concrete. What does your favorite hours watched stat present if not popularity? Answer.
>You started shitting on watame right here
Where the shitting? By that logic you're shitting on Marine by saying she is not number 1.
>Its nijinigger behave to holo v holo.
More deflection to try to steer away from answering the question.
>Just because Pekora is objectively the most watched female streamer in the world, doesn't mean Watame isn't amazing.
It also means Watame is more popular and successful than Marine because Marine is mot even top 10.

>>50456770
Gura can't be confrontational, she refuses to use social media. Cope.

>>50467616
Pekora is number 1 in hours watched

Pekora is number 1

>>50467676
>she refuses to use social media
pretty fucking smart desu

>>50467693
And Marine is below Watame. Just say it.

>>50466175
Here you go my friend https://files.catbox.moe/6onzn8.mp4

>>50467839
In hours watched, Marine is below Watame.
Was stated at the very beginning.

>>50467883
As a streamer and vtubet Marine is also below Watame because hours watched is the most important statistic. Say it.

>>50467944
If Marine streamed more she would be number 1, as previously stated.
The conversation will just loop sister, my argument has been sound and you have been shitting on holos the entire time to cope about a metric that is objectively the best way to measure how much a streamer is being watched because as you can see from the name
"hours watched"
that is what it means

I am surprised none have say mememe

>>50468035
But she doesn't and so she is not a top 10 vtuber.
Why are you so afraid of saying anything definitive and skirt around facts by proposing these what if scenarios?
>a metric that is objectively the best way to measure how much a streamer is being watched
It's literally not though. It can't account for actual watchtime from archives. It's only "the best" if you're a numberfag and obsessively compare everyone. It's really weird for you to be this attached to that "stat" since you're extremely hesitant to say anything but "Pekora number 1".

>>50468380
I'm not afraid of anything, the conversation will just not go the way you're trying to force it.
Everything I've said is true.
You can cope about it any way you like, you embarrassed yourself in front of 100+ IPs

>>50468538
You haven't said anything about Marine's current hours watched. Where does that place her? Is she less popular than Watame like the hours watched chart tells us?

>>50468632
>popular
Hours watched is hours watched.
Pekora is watched more than any other female streamer sister

>>50468678
Are you implying that some more popular streamers are actually less watched?

>>50451921
fpbp

>>50468821
Not implying anything.
The chart that measures hours watched is the reason Pekora is number 1.
Objectively measured, the best way we have to see performance

>>50468923
So Marine performs worse than Watame?

>>50469004
As already stated, she does not stream enough.
Sister are you ogey

>>50469027
So she performs worse.

>>50459477

>>50451860
EN managers are kinda retarded at times, mainly because they are thinking too much on not offending people at times which is fucking retarded, then when it happens by accident it turns out into a huge nothing burger and they finally loosen up just to tighten about something else.

>>50451860

>>50465581
I don't care about what she thinks, fuck her, but implying merch sales don't matter is retarded

>>50467868
Thanks! Not exactly CONFIRMATION, but seeing her dunk on him again is nice.