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I long have waited for this moment

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https://twitter.com/fideyontilt/status/1336576503610560512
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Since I was following the whole circle at the time I feel I should make a summary
Sadly both Lyrica and her friend deleted the tweets when they got into Niji. Pretty sad because the whole thread and drama was about an interesting topic even if overblown
https://twitter.com/fideyontilt/status/1336576503610560512
You can still see the author of those deleted tweets


Basically Mocca made a serie of tweets about the importance of debut and how people should consider getting a bit of experience in streaming before spending 2-3K$ on model and tweeting until their debut, because 1st impression was important unless you get lucky or had a previous network.
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>Advice to upcoming Vtubers: If you never streamed before, go stream right now. >Especially if your debut is months off. Go stream a bunch. Go stream to no one, go stream to your friends - doesn't matter but you gotta stream. Figuring out your software, talking to a slow or empty chat... Getting used to streaming before your debut will help you make a better first impression. And the first impression is EVERYTHING in this scene right now.

">But x never streamed before and is popular" - x is extremely lucky and/or has popular friends that boosted them.

>Figure out if you actually like it first before spending big $$$ on a model. It may look fun from the outside, but there's plenty stuff that can be worrying once you're the one behind the character.
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Lyrica QRT'd just a small part of it, giving it a distorted meaning, to state she disagreed and started a whole piling up of hatred from all corners of the EN twitter scene and people mad about lucky being brought up too.
Lyrica only retweet this tweet from his thread :
>In the current EN indie scene (provided you're not friends with big people in the scene) you basically get one shot to have eyeballs on you - the debut. You don't wanna fuck it up by being unprepared and making a bad impression. Learn your craft - streaming is a craft as well.
saying that was wrong and she debuted with no experience and terrible content and made it anyway so it wasn't true

pic related was shared in niji threads a while ago, tho most people went "based elira" and stuff as you'd expected

Later Mocca made a tweet explaining himself (since he parted way with lyrica)

>Now that the dust has settled I wanna say why I responded badly yesterday. In my opinion, if you have a large following, you really ought to try and actually check if there's more to a tweet before quote rting it to your following - especially if you're friendly with the person. This situation could've been resolved by a simple DM saying "Hey Mocca, this is a kinda iffy take, maybe clarify or think over this statement."
>instead of being tweeted to 20k people that will take it, run with it and make me seem like a jerk. It's not cool to come off a stream to half the scene telling you you fucked up somehow, even though it wasn't even the full context that went to everyone. It sucks. I'm not some kind of social media trained corporate streamer. I do not speak for the community nor do I claim I do. Even if what was perceived was ACTUALLY what I said... so? My opinion doesn't need to be broadcast to your following as something horrible. Who cares!!!! If you look to any person with a bigger following than you and take their advice uncritically and apply it to your situation - please don't. We're in the same boat as you. Having a follower account with ~big number~ doesn't make my opinion more right.

Overall Mocca may of course have reacted a bit strongly, but was under a pretty big mob of hate from twitter, and moved to Twitch as a way to distanciate from his youtube circle and get closer to different friends

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