/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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If you're genuinely caring for Kiki, please give a chance to this "semi-outsider" view, of course feel free to discard it after. I honestly mean it in good faith
I've wanted to discuss that often but the thread clearly seemed not suited for it, since it's pretty insular. I wouldn't spend that energy for a basic shitpost. If even one person find something worth in it then it's enough.

Believe it or not but I've been here since the beginning, I don't watch every stream since GFE and long gameplay is really not my stuff. Mostly "science" ones and Karaokes. I was impressed by her debut, she sounded so enthusiastic about sharing her love for biology, mycology, raising animals and all. She spoke about making friends, was cheerful, honestly that looked proimising.
But then, barely 1~2 streams in she completely shifted into GFE because of the feedback loop with the thread, many champyons love that shit, much more than some boring science stuff. And I get it, many people are are lonely and love-starved. But she's always been easily influenced and she just got addicted to the positive reaction and slowly became what she is. She also honestly acts like a real newfag by taking stuff way too seriously and not handling negative comment at al, which made champyons overly defensive and prevent almost any kind of genuine criticism (the new model thread was alarming, about that).
there are also pretty strong incoherence in her attitude, people here since the start know she was genuinely trying to grow fast, she was asking for collabs all around, big ones too, worried for her numbers being too low while changing hours, was bragging about the speed she got 1k at, but seems to have changed that goal? Or maybe not? I wonder.

So yeah, I'm of course a bit sad, and critical of that whole thing. I mostly read the thread, sometimes shitpost hoping that kiki finally toughen up a bit.
In the end however, if her and her fans are happy like this, where is the harm? couldn't outsiders just leave champyons alone and mind their business? .... but maybe it's a bit too simplistic to say that, because with her dependence, champyons hostility to outsiders, paranoia and very controlling attitude, I'm a bit worried for the future still. I also have some doubts about her IRL situation, but without facts it's just speculations. I'm convinced kiki has some actual disorded, not sure if schizoaffective would fit, I'm no expert. Is that way of vtubing really the cure? Or just a temporary cope? How did she change some much between pre-debut, debut, and 2 streams after debut? Many questions.
I think her overall adventure is interesting so I'll stay a casual watcher. I hope the best for her honestly, I'm just doubtful this is headed in a positive direction.