/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It has been 24 hours since derailment, so let me sum up the past discussions as best I could.
Unlike before I am not fully disconnected so let me cite my biases, and there's a lot of wall of texts this time around so I may be oversimplifying.

On re-establishing gravitas:
>I am/was the /rrat/ rep
>I have historically called out historic revisionism that happens in /vtwbg/
>Significant works from me are the Zone Autism Event (>>17441139)
>Also the Neutralfag v /Inf/ Event (>>18925120)
>The Isolation/Canal lore change caused a bit of a stir and I saw some inaccuracies in the evidence presented by the Kronies
>This is in regard to the island matter, which was dropped halfway when Neutralfag left and everyone just wanted to move on
>An Anon (WestProposal Anon) suggested if /Inf/ is not an isolationist anymore, why can't they be in the West (>>19940810)
>/Inf/ rep did not like this (>>19941216 >>19942459)
>I cited the current status of the island matter (>>19942460) which led to a lot back and forth
>My position remains the same: "If Isolation is dropped, so why are you not in the West is a valid question."
>My reasoning for why the past evidence for Eastern Island isn't sufficient so we should finalize it and actually make it official(>>19961252, >>19961617, >>19962031)
>Needless to say I got some disingenous assertions on my motive...and had to re-explain my stance....a lot... I apologize, but it is my belief this has to be settled officially so there's collective agreement.


The Coming Storm Side A:
>/Inf/ makes a lore post that its not isolationists anymore (>>19915765)
>An Anon cites this throws /Inf/'s tech advantage out the window (>>19915840)
>/Inf/ rep says they will only share with allies, so their advantage makes sense(>>19916004)

Meanwhile Back At The Ranch:
>Some Anons suspecting /Inf/ wants to build a Canal (>>19932218, >>19938078)
>This is dismissed as impossible (>>19932299, >>19939883)
>/kfp/ rep shares the plans to build a canal (>>19940031)

Here we start:
>Anon notices both plays and cites /Inf/ cannot build a canal or the whole world is tech bumped to make the canal feasible, also /Inf/ is backing out of their word (>>19940183)
>Some anons think it's okay to be bumped up, because magic (>>19940254, >>19940289, >>19940301)
>Anon brings up how rediculous the canal would be (>>19940502)
>/kfp/ rep agrees and backs out of the canal (>>19940766)
>/Inf/ says it's okay for everyone to be bumped to 1800s and the canal is possible because of magic (>>19940613)
>/meat/ rep(?) disagrees (>>19941369)
>WestProposal anon brings up they got the island because of their isolationist policy and they can fix their canal problems by moving west(>>19940810)
>/Inf/ cites timeloop and the island was agreed East by the thread(>>19941216)
>WestProposal Anon(?) cites how many things were given to /Inf/ already (>>19942118)
>I cite /Inf/'s claim for the Island is false/Incomplete (>>19942460)
>This starts a pretty big time loop, I can make a highlight reel, but I am not an impartial party in it this time. Nothing no one has read before.

The /vtwbg/ floor Session I:
>I sum up the topics of debate so we can all come to consensus(>>19943880)
>Isolationism y/n
>Canal y/n
>The Eastern Island y/n

Floor results Day1: (>>19943880, YBC: >>19955338, KFP amend: >>19971542)
/Inf/ Isolationism:
>/nasfaqg/ Aye (just explain it in lore) (side note: also WestProposal Anon?)
>/kfp/: Abstain, (maybe lore of the start of reducing isolationism), okay so long as other generals are developed enough that /Inf/'s power is not one sided - it might also be fun to have imbalance
>Anon: Aye, it's okay so long as it's lore'd properly
>/Inf/(personal): Aye - it makes for better lore
>/SakuraM/: Aye (just explain it in lore)*
>/YBC/: Kronies need to decide what they want, they made so much noise to be an island and isolationist, now they don't want to be.
>/who/: Abstain (?) Isolationism was used to justify their advantage, but now they are non isolationist and still have that advantage - it needs to be heavily balanced
>/wg/: /Inf/ shouldn't be proposing drawbacks that they can just write out later.

/Inf/ Canal
>/nasfaqg/: Nay, it will destory other threads reliant on trade
>/kfp/: Nay, tech too low to maintain one of that size
>Anon: Aye, would make some nice scenarios with other generals
>/Inf/(personal): Abstain - not impartial
>/SakuraM/: Nay - it doesn't make sense to maintain even if we are in the 1900s
>/YBC/: Nay - it's impsossible and fucks over trade states like /nasfaqg/
>/who/: Nay
>/wg/: Aye - but it has to be limited to make sense


/Inf/ Moves to the West Island
>/nasfaqg/: Abstain, it was an alternate suggestion - to canal and isolationism
>/kfp/: Nay, too disruptive
>Anon: Aye, they have no ground to stand on to be in the East if they aren't isolated
>/Inf/(personal): Nay - it's rediculous
>/SakuraM/: Nay - moving them is too much trouble*
>/YBC/: Nay - it will destabalize the map
>/who/: Nay
>/wg/: No - dear god no

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