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Nigga

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>>23213836
The % of profits is smaller for large traders either way, I don't see your point since what you said applies even now. All it outlines is higher transactional volatility, but in truth it's the rich that would benefit from multicoin expansion, as they would be able to utilize it to its fullest.

>>23214369
I feel like the game is just hibernating in wait for the next update, but people are retiring/abayo-ing actively at this point. It's likely the result of several things: lack of fresh gameplay discussion (due to lack of fresh mechanics), game design making endgame tedious and painfully unrewarding, lack of clear roadmap/dev presence in the threads (even if attempts were made with the new dev).

>>23219139
The point isn't for the game to become a time sink. The point is to make it fun and rewarding - to award strategizing and doing reps rather than monitoring the market non-stop.

>>23220298
Mori meta has been primarily dividends-based for several past months, where have you been, anon? I always joked about the brap cycle and how most people in it completely disregarded the long-term play, cashing out of the position and earning a miniscule amount of money they were unable to allocate better at that time. Opportunity cost is a real thing in a game where you had very limited number of maximum transactions you could do.

Beyond that, stopping people from hoarding coins is impossible when coins are the only real way to make money (except in the event of a long-term, harsh deflation of the market) and free money literally spawns into the game every week.

Regarding selling, "Ain't Sellin'" was always, ALWAYS a FUD. It was never a good strategy. The most important change to selling has been the new multicoin update which made multiselling viable, but people who have figured out how to evaluate multicoin will not be likely to share it in the thread. Disregard any past actions I might have taken here.

>>23222139
I like the spirit of what you're proposing. It's the endgame that struggles the most, outside of Mori/Suisei being too good for early/mid-game.

>>23227408
Highly variable, I'd say. Reward the "good" weeks much more and punish the "bad" weeks more. Regarding the amount, lowering the dividends amount will only make the game more and more dead, relying on inflation for profit. The key is to buff trading somehow without breaking other sources of profit.

>>23231390
I disagree with lowering the dividends amount further, the point is to make them more differentiating if anything else, together with boosting active trading further. If you look at the Dividends Report you will see that most players have a very similar % of returns on dividends compared to their net worth, which means that even if you make slow, methodical, dividends-oriented plays without being stupid (like, say, buying Mori 10x non-stop, Cypher), you're still unlikely to edge out your competition with it. This has been a problem for months now.

I think I once made a case for the dividends to be, well, like real dividends and thus lower the capitalization of the entire coin. Basically, If Coin A is worth $10,000 and it is to pay $1000 in dividends, it would first grow in value by a certain amount, let's say $200, and then it would give you $1000 in liquid and drop down to $9200. This drastically reduces the actual income from dividends, but allows for players (and especially oshicoiners) to get more liquid to play with throughout the week. I should note that it's EXTREMELY important that this idea would come with giving the players much greater control over market prices, rising the price of mass-bought coins. The inflation resulting from it would be kept in check by dividends being much more zero-sum than they were before, without pumping a lot of "new" money into the market with the exception of long-term growth component.

>>23232186
From my understanding they are thinking about working towards it at one point, which given their track record might mean months or years. Go ahead to substitute it in the meantime, a lot of people (myself included) will be extremely grateful for it. For me it's mostly the computer noise and ability to adjust trades on the go, so I'm not bounded by 3:00 PM in my home every day.

>>22750366
I want more than anyone for her price to normalize so I can oshicoin in peace, believe me.

>>22751654
Very late Congratulations! And more congratulations to Matowa for 10k Towa!

>>22755003
I haven't had time to check the numbers in a while, but as far as I remember Mori's price is slightly deflating over time, but as I said I'd have to check her growth relative to market for the past couple of weeks.

Essentially, she's good because she's on permanent sale and (likely) the way adjustments work together with API glitching/market movement just keep it that way.

The other thing is that if you buy a coin above its 'usual' price, especially when multicoining, you're essentially 'losing' some value. The question with Mori (and high multicoin in general) is whether a coin can reasonably pay back that difference, which is a lot harder to evaluate than you'd think.

First off, the dividends aren't that big compared to coin prices anymore - even if a coin gives 10-20% more in dividends per $ invested compared to another coin (meaning ~300$), if you have to burn 10k above its price while the other one is roughly at its expected price, your investment will be 'returned' in 33 weeks. This is, at its core, why chasing dividends alone is a fool's errand in this state of the game - it was a good approximation when coins were much cheaper and dividends were progressive rather than crabbing.

Then there's inflation. The value lost on buying a coin when it's expensive shouldn't in theory contribute to long-term value growth via inflation, which means that there is also a long-term loss associated with it.

Basically, I'd say that Mori /is/ the best coin in the game for a number of reasons, but /overpriced/ Mori is worse than you might think, there are usually better coins to buy than Mori 10x unless she's down at ~15k.

>>22762391
The issue is that I've declared before that Cypher won't pass me, and I'm extremely stubborn about that. When it comes to being competitive, the lack of server-side trader together with resuming regular life basically would tie me down unless I started botting, which seems like a more and more attractive option lately, since it'd allow me to do what I enjoy the most - strategizing and picking out trends out of numbers - without having to adjust trades manually which is horrendously tedious and ties me down to adjustment time.
Truth be told, I have been waiting for a friend of mine to complete and share a bot framework they've been working on, but it's been stalling for several months now.

>>22766769
I would argue that due to reworked multicoin any stack below ~2000 coins is still geared towards trading. 2000-3000 coins is enough to be prepared for a big spike and corresponding largely green week for a certain coin - I've repeatedly bought up Risu to 1500-2000 and then sold down to 0 over time.

The only coins that are proper 'traps' like that are Iroha and Flare, since they'd been on a slight long-term decline for a while without many good opportunities to sell, which makes buying into them over time too easy. I myself fell to this, since I've been running on complete auto for a month, which you can see in my wallet.

>>22809589
This issue won't be fixed with a reset. You'd just go back to zero and the same thing would happen in a couple of months.

>>19894669
It is the prime time to think. I develop a lot of ideas, settings, or trains of thoughts - it'd feel terrible to waste more than an hour and a half daily on doing nothing...
The pandemic really took a toll on my creativity, first due to lockdowns cutting out commuting and then after I moved and switched to riding bikes, I get only half an hour total per day...

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>>18636106
But you should have Holo in your wallet already at this point, even if it spikes. Ina, on the other hand, may have been a really good sell for the past week or so, (don't tell priestess), so I can imagine not having enough Ina in one's wallet more than missing out on a Hololive spike.

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