/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Pekora is horny today huh

Holo management spy here...
Next guest is Sakamata Chloe

>>62886943
>the Wii came out 17 years ago

PESSI AND WALLSON DREAM TEAM

>>55956779
same, also nice peko

>>55919033
>>EN3 were picked in Feb
>Kiara squeezing info out of them unknowingly

>>55818045
>>55818375
The high IQ stream schizos are always the first to sniff shit out. Definite yab incoming.

>mass overlap hours again

>>55501720
no no nO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

20 MORE MINUTES HOLY FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Given what we've seen from EN 1 and 2, why do you even WANT EN 3? On the offchance they are any promising, they will still have the likes of Mori and Kronii whispering in their ears. Maybe they'll see how Gura and Ina can go long periods without streaming and still rake in the cash. My point is, even if Cover somehow magically found great girls they didn't find the first 2 times they held auditions, the current ENs, their senpais, will poison them.

>>53205937
>e bought ze jee eff ee
>collab wiz ze male

I'm gonna try and make an actual essay post here and then maybe copy it and use it again later since this shit keeps coming up. I'm sure many people will go TLDR and mucho texto and "didn't read lol" but I actually do care about Hololive and Hololive EN keeps running into the same issue in my opinion.

It's probably a long shot given the state of the board these past 2 years, but if you were around for Myth's debut, you should remember debut Mori. She was awkwardly abrasive and contrarian and tried to do everything possible to show that she was "different" from what people had come to expect from Hololive. Whether that was collabing with Trash Taste faggots, not doing even the slightest hint of fanservicey requests, or aggressively shooting down any Takamori banter, she was just unpleasant to be around. The reason she was like this is the same reason Ame told her viewers to improve themselves, the same reason Kronii imploded, the same reason Fauna said her viewers weren't her friends, and the same reason Ina keeps lecturing her viewers. They don't get vtubing. Or at least, they don't get why Hololive JP in particular is so popular.

Hololive JP is popular because the talents, for the most part, realize they are selling a product, a dream, an illusion. You have to be careful not to break that illusion, but in return people will give you insane amounts of money. This product is part the avatar, and part the person behind it but never really entirely one or the other. There has to be a balance, as Kizuna Ai showed, you can't just have the avatar with another person behind it. But you also can't just be yourself with an avatar, that's where the often used insult of "ethot with an avatar" comes in. You need some bit of character.

It's this bit that Western women, and particularly Hololive EN seems to struggle with. They want to prove they are bigger and better than the avatar. That people would like them for themselves, give money them for themselves, first draft, unedited. Which is total fucking bullshit. There's a reason they don't talk about their political stances or past relationships. There's a reason you aren't supposed to know their real names, real faces, real ages. Hololive is supposed to provide a nice neat digestible little package and for some reason, these women just fucking chafe at providing that, even if they stand to reap the benefits and make millions off it. Even the ones who weren't blatantly against it from the beginning like Fauna or Ina can't help every now and then but slip and drop the mask so they can lecture their fans because that's what the "real them" would do. That's what they really think.

Do you really think Nene wants people to report when they masturbate to her? Do you think any woman really wants that? Does Luna really think she's a baby? Is every single Holo in JP just somehow forever single and lonely despite many of them being charismatic, funny, and probably not hideous? No. But they know how to keep up kayfabe without their ego getting in the way, something most of Hololive EN just can't stomach. And they resent it, some openly like Mori and Kronii from the beginning, and some like Fauna or Ame or Ina when it just bubbles out at the worst time. But these hypocrites will rake in money hand over fist from sad lonely men, while still trying to convince themselves they aren't taking advantage of anyone. These men are willing to be taken advantage of, is it too much to ask that they don't openly spit on them after the transaction goes through?

>>48579310
Um, isn't mooming illegal???

Hololive EN is currently trying to redeem themselves.

>Girls are actually begging people to like and subscribe like regular YouTubers
>Raid feature which never used to be used, is now being used more often
>Membership gifting, which some girls felt ambivalent on, is now being openly noticed and thanked
>Thumbnails are taken from more suggestive artwork/girls are using more suggestive outfits, i.e. Mori in her nightwear
>Homo collabs have disappeared

Numbers may be contained in their own hell of a thread but we know that Cover, and more importantly their sponsors, rely on them as a metric. And numbers have been going down. CCV and subs have slowed, and while people might want to blame it on lockdown being over, consider that JP is doing better than ever in both fields. If any Cover staff see this, just know this. Your core audience wants to see cute girls doing cute things. Graduate Mori, Kronii, and all of Tempus and then we can talk. Bae was honest from the start about who she was, and Ame has given us a lot of great events so they can stay. But this half assed shit you're doing now won't bring people back. You need to eradicate the tumors that you currently have.

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>>44228946
Mori...

>>40270693

>>38319738
>11B views

>>29993013
They are really take STR & INT stats Kayfabe seriously.. bravo omega

Suzy will pick Mori over Risu

>>28761591
jesas, they're evolving

https://youtu.be/kPZfJpxIms4
off-collab we were here forever with Risu in Japan