/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>73307789
> difference is that otaku shit is widely more accepted there
Oh sure, that's why Sora was crying about her not getting any serious sponsorships despite being one of the few 100k chuubas in existence. The "otaku acceptance" thing is a lot more recent, and even now there's still a HUGE subsection of normies that seethe at the V豚 crowd.
> Western well is Irony poisoned to the max
Japan's streaming culture was like that for a while as well anon.
Pekora was an NND troll, and a ton of the old NND crowd still continues to seethe at Holos (who are also old NND folks for the most part) finding success by "pretending to be anime girls and milking otaku".
Hololive is arguably the REASON that a ton of normies even considered entering the otaku space. They're just THAT talented and entertaining, at least compared to their competition there. Hololive has single handedly made oshikatsu into an activity that normies are getting into. People like Jimmy or that viking dude or that ripped nigga with the Nene daki are completely breaking the perception of "otaku" in the eyes of the JP mainstream. You just don't expect people like that to be into "otaku shit". Whether it's the east OR the west.
But notice how all of them were cheering for JP Holos? Viking dude was a kenzoku, ripped nigga is a Nekko and Jimmy's a hardcore Rosetai. Hell the gosling dude from last fes was an ichimi. Foreigners have zero "otaku" related shame or "muh ironic" fears when it comes to supporting JP holos. So why does that same level of passion not appear for EN holos?
> Now imagine Gura
We do not NEED to imagine anon.
We saw their leeching attempts FIRST HAND.
> they would have had her changing models
You are an absolute retard that doesn't understand that they already tried this. Do you not remember Brittany Venti and how utterly she got btfo by existing holofans for her retardation?

Again you keep talking as if I want holos to INTERACT with these fools. Or get some form of acknowledgement from those shitstains.
No.
That's not what I want at all.
See this list for example >>73304221 where an anon points out how HoloEN girls are at #34 or some shit.
The equivalent of that list for JP chuubas has at least 6-7 Holos in the TOP 10 every single time! And Pekora or Miko are at #1 most of the time.
THAT'S where I want HoloEN to be! At the very TOP!

JP holos worked their ass off year over year in order to get to where they are now.
If the ENs were giving us SOMETHING, we could spread the word, push them to our normie friends, increase mindshare etc. etc.
More regular EN translated Covers from Nerissa. Full EN songs without JP stuff from Mori (ala Red, which a TON of my normie friends loved, or Play Dice - but with a non-JP rhythm so that people can actually follow the lyrics). Fun animated stuff like Q (Again, in English. Not everyone is weeb enough to know Japanese but a ton of them like good quality MVs when they can understand the lyrics). More 1 on 1 collabs where the dynamics between different HoloEN pairs can be fleshed out, whether it's just a "getting to know your senpai" type streams or as simple as just playing Asobi Taizen with each other. Or prank streams where the plan is fake and they're trying to trick the other girls. How many "prank" type interactions did we even see in the past idk 2 years or so?
But none of that is happening.
If you're just mindlessly watching streams and not doing any form of oshikatsu, then yeah, maybe that's "good enough" for you.
But I want them to GROW man. Bigger and Better than these absolute shitters that are currently "dominating" the streaming space. And they're talented, I KNOW they can do it.
But to spread the word the fans NEED something to push with. MVs, Cover songs, fun streams, 1 on 1 collabs, events, funny skits, SOMETHING.
When JP holos are giving something interesting to catch the interest of people every 2 weeks or so (which even catch the eyes of EN crowd btw, clips from Korone, Miko etc. are SUPER popular in the EN fleshie react crowd), seeing the absolute BARREN state of EN in comparison just fills me with sadness.

>>73254058
can you blame them?
their fucking INTRODUCTION to the "EN scene" was pic rel

>>71587760
Shark cunny is powerful
Leeches want some of her clout

>>68937523
They've been trying for years.
Nothing will change.

>>67757801
Try matching this then? Ironlung cuck. IM wishes a twitch circle as big as this, begs for a collab.

Gura doesn't even try LMAO 0 effort and twitch sharts already kneels to the Shark.

>>66766809
Gura's catshark cos. beats every Nijisharts though.

Call me when any Nijisharts get begged for a collab from popular tw*tchnigger cliques like picrel

>>63871102
kek, sure

>>56349609
It's fun to ponder sometimes, they're that desperate

>>54776153
> pander to twitchfags guiz!
> they will increaz noomberz!
/#/ exists to correct little retards like you
Twitchfags are salivating at prerecorded Video content because they can have more stuff to react to, and put the "hololive" label on their streams to leech off some of the audience.
They can't do that with streams, which is why they're crowing around Shiori like parasites.
Same shit happened with Gura as well, remember?

>>54675149
> Like at least articulate your position.
She has.
Tempus is "literally who" status for her.
Far bigger parasites have tried leeching on her back during her debut and she did not give the slightest of fucks.

>>51499936
She WAS doing that anon. For the longest fucking time, she just streamed when she found the time and didn't when she wasn't able to.
But in the past few months, even her fucking MEMBERS started getting on her case about not streaming.
Like, seriously? Do these retards not know how Hololive works? There's like 50 other girls you can watch while you wait, and you spend that time shitting on your so called "oshi" who you've been membered to for two fucking YEARS.
Whereas before she would have been happy with just going the Ayame route and doing what she could where she could (as she stated), now that her own supposed "fans" are turning against her, why would she even bother?
Who wants to stream to people that will straight up just shit on you if you take a little too long between streams?
People that don't even understand that memberships are supposed to be VOLUNTARY and not a payment fund or a transaction that results in more streams.

Like you said, she will just "ignore" a lot of things if she doesn't like them, but now she will just include chumbuds in that list since they've proven themselves to be unironic antis.
She will probably have something special for her Birthday stream, since that stuff usually takes MONTHS of planning (wouldn't be surprised if that was what she was up to for the past few months).

But after that though? I wouldn't be surprised if she will not tweet or stream for the rest of the year. Depending on her contract, maybe she might have a small gaming stream or something with chat disabled to prevent her channel from getting demonetized every 3 months.
She will wait for her supposed "fans" to grow bored and leave her the fuck alone, and eventually when there's finally more girls in HoloEN that can take attention away from her, and if she feels better again, MAYBE she might try and get back into streaming again.

>>46274555
OTV tried to leech Gura but gets ignored and then cried that it's impossible to collab with Hololive
https://youtu.be/AxkwF5aXNM0

>>46144617
/vt/ - shark board + picrel

>>44877161
kek

>>44875944
This one is better.

>>44458207
He collabs with plenty Vtubers, but he has his own clique within twitch that are fleshtubers, at one point they were salivating the idea of getting into Hololive's walled garden, only to be ignored.