/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75201605
I don't think Selen did any direct damage to EN. They could've just let her graduate and this all would've been swept under the rug. Or they could've just not privated her song cover that was celebrating NijiEN over dumb bureaucratic bullshit. It's really hard to demonize her when there's nothing to stick to her. She is mentally ill but never acted maliciously or threw anyone under the bus. Even despite her claims about being bullied she never exposed anyone, it was Elira and her group who started throwing out names like Enna and Millie and initiated the mass-unsubbing. Selen just wanted to move on with her life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0VWGCKwEyo

Did Kiara ever told us this stories herself? Actually Enna not only claims to be single but also a virgin still and actually gives "virginity updates" I bet wawa would be even more shocked by that one.

>>74316773
Realistically though, who could they punish right now? Other than Luca assuming the Raziel shit is even 20% true, there is no damning evidence that we know of that points to who did what.
Yes the document/stream name drops Enna, Millie and Elira but they only mention it refers to their addresses, not saying she claims they're the bullies. (Though I personally believe that is the case.)
Honestly the damning part of this is that Nijisanji hasn't declared any investigation into this. Unless someone drops a statement or Niji goes full retard and do another attack on Doki's character were likely not gonna see any movement on that front. Especially considering we're now 2 months into the aftermath of the Stream with little action from them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnAqEvltHNo
21:53
Enna mocking incels
37:30
Enna says her chat are all homeless living in their mother's basement. If she was in any other corpo this kind of statement might get her fired.
2:29:28
Enna is called out for calling chat homeless incels earlier
2:42:43
Enna "doesn't feel much hatred" which contradicts this rant of hers:
https://streamable.com/oq1cdc
Enna's hatred "overcomes her social anxiety"
3:07:07
Enna claims that nobody in her chat has a girlfriend/boyfriend, which tacitly admits that she sees vtubers as a parasocial phenemonon. Don't let anyone in this thread argue otherwise, this quote will shut them down.

What Enna did on her vacation
>spent 2 weeks in an airbnb with Diego
>then came back and streamed once, before heading off to Japan
>Vanta was there in Japan, but she claims she didn't meet him at the dinner. She seemed extremely insistent on that point, which was odd. Vanta hurried home while the rest of Krisis stayed there, kind of strange for him to do that. This whole circumstance is suspicious
>Luca showed up of course and creeped on the Ethyria girls the entire time they were there.

I wonder who did it? My money's on Diego.

Idk Enna's entire personality seems to be a complete contradiction in terms

>says she's super shy and never
Has literally NEVER acted this way even once on stream. In fact it's quite the opposite, she's constantly confronting people, talking over people, making outlandish statements....etc.

>claims to be a virgin
Acts like a complete whore at every single opportunity. Twerking for the camera, flirting with the males, even doing moaning into the mic and stuff.

>claims she's a shy otaku with no friends
Literally constantly meeting her friends every single day and every single week. It's party after party, vacation after vacation....etc.

What the fuck?
Just because she SAYS this stuff about herself does not mean it's true.

Any claims Enna had to being intelligent went out the window when she failed to understand what a solar eclipse was

>>73248097
Enna has like 5x more views than Maria playing this lmao
Remember that Enna frequently complains about money and claims she's too poor to afford basic things. I always wonder what the other members think seeing her saying that shit

>>73005756
>Who the fuck was talking their address? Nijisanji said she was threatening to make her claims public if negotiations broke down then that's exactly what she did. Claim being "I was harassed to suicide in Nijisanji". They told you what would happen, it happened and now you're just denying that people already told you what would happen
Per the black box stream THEY SAID that the "document" that doki had contained elira's, enna's and millie's addresses, and a recording of vox taken without his consent, A document that doki never mentioned up until having to respond to them, The part about doki "making her claims public" was done IN RESPONSE to nijisanji's smearing termination letter, what was she supposed to just stay quiet and take it like sayu had to?, Accept the career ending smears they were throwing at her to make it so nobody would ever work with her again?, Fuck you

>>72824963
There's no definitive proof about what was in the document since only Doki, her lawyer, and Anycolor's legal team know whats in that document. Well, the livers too, which they by all accounts shouldn't have. But as was said in the video and has been transcribed
>Elira said that their staff received documents from Selen's experiences working at NijiEN.
>Reportedly has "personal information" of livers.
>One section allegedly alludes to where Enna, Millie, and Elira live, despite the fact that neither Enna and Millie tried to hide where they lived to begin with after they debuted. Nor did they even try to hide their closeness to Elira.

The real red flag that the document was about harassment was when Elira said that there were "harmful claims" about some liver's personal information that are "simply untrue". Vox himself flat out confirms this when he says that according to Selen's lawyer, the situation involving the MV was a build up of past experiences that led her to claim she was bullied and harassed. This was when Vox outed himself as being a brainlet for having THOROUGHLY reviewed documents meant to be confidential, that or him and Elira were basically in managerial positions in NijiEN. Positions that they were not only not hired for, but should never have been close enough to.

>>72807700
>Lies. She said the documents contained Selen's claims of Niji experiences. That can pertain to anything you dumb fuck.

>>72808243
>And where is the proof of this? Where is proof that the clique even exist? Where is proof that the clique is Enna,Millie, and Elira?

Notice how this deranged sister moves the goal post after it is clarified that his initial statement was not only dumb but disingenuous.
>Niji experiences. That can pertain to anything

Yeah right, because Selen would share her experiences taking care with puppies while she was in Nijisanji in such a document.

Now this mentally ill sister wants evidece of the clique exists and that Enna, Millie and Elira are the clique.

You lack any rational thinking sister, you will not even acknowledge that in the kuro stream Elira outed herself, Enna and Millie to be among Selen's bullies, something as basic.

Just go back to flag all the posts that make you feel sad sister, fight that good fight for Vox and ELira.

>>72795734
dumb as shit.
even with the context of watching the full clip, you seriously believe Kiara was trying to rizz her up like Enna claims?

this is just like "girl bestfriend asks her guy friend 'why do you not have a girlfriend?' situation" going on. it's not a real compliment, and if the one asking fully believes their claims, in that the other individual is such a PERFECT partner material, the proper counter-question that everyone should ask is: "are you up to the task? to be my romantic partner?". they always fold if you ask that. Kiara would too. no hints of her trying to offer herself up in this regard.

>>72795071
Enna claims to be a virgin to appeal to her femcel audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuDCRSNU7nA

But Enna has dated and moved in for more than a year with multiple boyfriends and fakes being a femcel for viewer engagement.
https://streamable.com/52f2j

I have an idea on how to make Mouse and Froots audience grow bigger.

Have mouse collab with Enna
>both give me boss bitch vibes. Both seem like company loyalists and came to boss bitch positions when nyanners, vei and selen(now doki) left.
If mouse isnt anon mousefags will watch enna if enna isnt on, enna fags will watch mouse.

Have Froot collab with Rin Penrose.
>Both sound very british, Froot defends transgenders, Penrose is a female considered a prince and claims she is both genders.Both have short hair.
Rin fags will watch froot if rin isnt live, froot fags will watch Rin if Froot isnt live.

My analysis and transcript of the black screen can be found here:
>https://bitbin.it/X0AvbbJL/

Having thoughtfully reviewed the black stream I feel very confident concluding:

a. The black stream was scripted by lawyers, who used these three livers as cover for ANYCOLOR’S responsibility for its statements on this matter.
b. With the possible exception of Mike, Elira and Vox were not chosen at random to be part of this stream.
c. Elira was used to attack Selen’s claims and moral character, from the angle that Selen included personal information in a document that could have become public; information ANYCOLOR characterizes as slanderous and that poses a thread to the personal safety of some livers. Elira was chosen to deliver this part, because just with like Selen and Millie, she was one of the few whose personal safety was threatened by that document.
d. Vox was used to attack Selen’s claims that staff had a bias against her and that there were bullies among the livers. Vox was chosen for this role, because he not only considers himself Selen’s friend and confident (with alleged access to private comments from her), but also a recording of him was used by Selen in the document as evidence of staff bias.
e. From this stream, it can be inferred that there was indeed bullying against Selen, that there was bias from staff against Selen and that there is a good chance that the bullying from some livers was encouraged by staff.
f. Elira, Enna, Millie and Vox are confirmed among Selen’s bullies, being the first three possibly the worst among the other harassers.
g. There is a faint hint that Elira might hold some authority, since it is mentioned by her that there was some sort of expectation "from the audience" for her to address the Selen issue.
h. The reason for ANYCOLOR to threat Selen the way it did (to try to get rid of her) was because of tweets, which they thought hurt their honor.


>But to this day, they all keep praying for Selen’s safety... Which seems to have worked wonders, because she is doing fucking AWESOME!

>>72533251
>Selen shock happens with stealth suspension
>First suicide attempt is when the stealth suspension happened because Selen knew it was over
>Selen does not tell anyone about the first attempt and manages to get home
>Selen gets home and she sees all of the angry messages by her coworkers wanting her gone
>Second attempt happens and the family is absolutely in dismay
>Selen's dad starts crying because of her daughter attempting suicide twice back-to-back... (fuck this hurts to write)
>Selen is stuck in the hospital because this was a second time now and they need to give her a counsellor
>Selen's emergency contact or family member is getting blown up with text messages by Elira's clique and Management
>Selen's family couldn't take it anymore and got a lawyer to reply back to AnyColor / NijiEN / Elira's clique
>Lawyer gets brought in to review the whole situation
>Selen's family puts in the money because if they don't do anything, they may actually lose her...

>News of Selen's suicide attempt (second actually) gets reached to NijiEN
>Everyone is in dismay because they just wanted her to quit, not kill herself
>Selen reincarnates as Doki
>Insert GURRAT & Communications RRAT
>This basically explains the toxic public back and forth between Elira's clique & Selen

>Elira's black stream happens
>Someone or two in NijiEN got fed up with this bullshit and bullying
>They start leaking to /vt/ when rrats are forming about the GURRAT due to why the black stream happened
>Leaker-san is trying to push in complexity into this black-and-white situation to save all of the good Niji's reputations
>Leaker-san is trying to avoid Rosemi's reputation get destroyed
>Elira's clique and everyone sees the leaks slowly happening, they investigate
>Leaker-san got potentially found out by NijiEN but he claims that other people have done worse so they can go fuck themselves
>Leaker-san continues to help shape the GURRAT to push an idea that this shit is more complicated than we thought
>Leaker-san is also responsible for leaking the blank contract to dramatubers and the lawyer to save all of their reputations
>Leaker-san wants everyone to know they're all being held hostage
>Elira's clique was very mad about being the main team exposed as the villains by the internet
>Elira's clique tries to work with NDF to counter the GURRAT
>NDF completely fails and GURRAT mindbreaks people

>Pomu sees the whole Selen situation from beginning until she reincarnated
>Pomu is hoping things get resolved peacefully before she leaves
>Pomu sees that Selen gets terminated
>Pomu feels extremely guilty about what happened because she likes both Elira and Selen
>Petra feels extremely guilty aobut what happened because she likes both Elira and Selen
>Trauma sets into Pomu in a recent confession
>Pomu decides that she contributed to this timeline because she decided to quit due to AR Live being postponed / cancelled
>Pomu feels responsible for not being there for Selen
>Petra feels responsible for not being there for Selen
>Rosemi feels responsible for not being there for Selen

>Elira's clique seeing the internet hate them made them realize they fucked up
>Elira's clique are not allowed to publicly apologize due to AnyColor's stock falling super hard due to Selen Shock
>Elira's clique under threats of being terminated to not apologize to the public
>Elira and Millie are distraught, Enna doesn't give a shit
>Enna goes on pure copium for 6 hours on a comeback stream about not being a bad person lol
>Elira's clique have regrets but because of AnyColor, are not allowed to redeem themselves so they can't do anything about it

>Kiara sees all of this bullshit like the rest of the internet
>Kiara talks to Pomu and hangs out with her in private
>Kiara is wanting to understand what the fuck happened and talks to NijiEN in Japan
>Pomu goes off to do her own thing because she got PTSD from the whole situation and NijiEN

>>72501763
>Elira: This document address Selen's CLAIMS against Niji
>Hurr claims means bullying ,hurr Elira is bully
Not to mention, after a rewatch she mentioned that Enna and Millie's addresses were the ones in the document, yet you still choose to believe Elira is the bully based on no evidence. Typical schizo behavior.

>>72387938
>diego (like eonni 39dank) spents days bashing dookie's claims about her being bullied and defending enna the whole time
So you are just going to brush over that and immediately assume Pomu knows this when even /vt/ hasn't said a thing about this literal who until now?

NO DOOKIE AGAIN DON'T LOOK!

>>diego (like eonni 39dank) spents days bashing dookie's claims about her being bullied and defending enna the whole time, decides to randomly tweet in one of not-pomu's song thread(this song clearly dedicated to elira just look at the lyrics) and she actually responds.

what is not-pomu trying to tell us?

>>72313854
>defending a site that hosts actual, real-life personal information and leads to serious stalking and IRL harassment like what happened to Sayu is somehow the same as making pictures of Uki being scared of white people or Enna being defeated by a piece of paper.
Yeah, your claims are about as believable as a Nijisanji termination notice.

>>72178508
>Enna constantly cries about supposedly being poor, while having the highest views in the branch
>living in a fucking mansion in the middle of one of the most expensive cities in the western world
>brags about her expensive taste and can't do without her conveniences
https://streamable.com/9afj30
>claims her family was poor growing up
>meanwhile her father was an international musician who lived in 3 countries and could afford to move to a western country (aka he is not poor).

Basically Enna is incredibly sheltered and doesn't understand what poverty is, or how the majority of people live. She attended a very wealthy high school intended for the elite of Canada, and she compares herself to those people and then says "I'm poor". In reality she has never been poor, she is an incredibly privileged person.

She got several nepotism jobs from her well connected friends. She was living in that expensive luxury apartment even BEFORE Nijisanji.

There was a humorous moment when Enna left the city for the first time in her life to go on a "camping trip", and it turns out the """camping trip""" was an Airbnb with a full stove, heating, plumbing...etc. She is so unaquainted with life outside the city that she leaves the garbage cans unlocked. When one of the locals confronts her about bears scattering garbage across the road, she gets incredibly nasty with him and viciously snaps at him, calling him a "bear simp". This is her personality.

>>72062231
I literally said I don't support Nijisanji you illiterate retard. I'm not here to shit on Doki or any of that shit, I'm actively a fan of her, and I'm happy she's doing well as an indie.

I'm saying that claims that the clique is complicit in a suicide attempt, cause that implies they were encouraging it, retard. We don't have the full picture of things because Doki doesn't want to go into it, and I respect that. I certainly don't go around talking about the reasons behind my own past suicide attempts with strangers. It's between Doki, her family, her lawyer, and her doctors, along with the parties involved. Everything we've heard is vague or just hearsay.

Tell me: why the fuck would Doki not sue the individuals who are supposedly complicit in a suicide attempt? Yeah, lawsuits are stressful, but she'd likely have a pretty open and shut case there, and Nijisanji wouldn't back any of the Livers in court, because it says in the contract they wouldn't in the event between Livers and other parties. If anyone, like Enna/Millie were actually complicit, they'd be hung out to dry, and probably get fired over it. If they really pushed Doki directly, then Doki would have the ammo to take them to court and publicly execute their careers.

I want to reiterate: I'm NOT on the side of Enna, Millie, or Nijisanji as a whole. I'm on Doki's side at the end of the day. I'm just not willing to dickride super speculative shit like the extent of involvement of Enna/Millie/Elira/etc in a suicide attempt based on nothing but hearsay, because that's too schizopilled for me.

But sure, be a fucking brainless faggot and assume I'm anti-Doki or whatever. Go kick rocks, retard.

>>72062319
See the above shit, cause I don't want to repeat myself for another brainless anon who just assumes shit without trying to be objective about the info we actually have.

>Enna mocks her stepmother who can't speak english and thinks it's normal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9E7cIM9iY&t=3173
>Enna is shocked at how cucked her audience actually is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9E7cIM9iY&t=3270
>The girl who was suicidebaiting, and claims that she can't even talk to people because of social anxiety, says that she's "mentally strong".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9E7cIM9iY&t=7163>Enna talks about "losing in the algorithm" because of her break. Says that she's confident she can just release a song and get all her popularity back. Also suggests that her manager bitches at her about her algorithm. Still believes that Luxiem is the key to popularity despite their catastrophic decline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9E7cIM9iY&t=9710

>>72029195
She is a good singer afterall. But the reason she could never get hired is because of her extreme laziness. She is one of the most lazy people you will ever meet.
She streams less, by far, than all the other niji girls
>https://files.catbox.moe/zvyexq.png
She rarely sings. She never does unique projects. She is always eating on stream, even doing chores on stream. Oftentimes she'll join collabs without doing any research on the game, and spends half the collab begging the others to explain how the game works.

Her laziness knows no bounds. But the irony is, in typical enna fashion, she always claims she's overworked. Just like how she claims she's poor, when she's the opposite. Or how she claims she's a victim, when she's a highly privileged person.