/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>62897838
Kiara had a legitimate complaint that Myth never had a 3D anniversary even after 3 years. Management pushed them to the side for 3D studio time and there is a chance that might continue which is why she voiced those concerns. Cover is a Japanese corpo so they might not do anything but fans will at least know that Myth have been asking for a 3D anniversary since February and they were completely ignored.

>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit
>Thinks she should have preferential treatment for 3D when everyone is getting screwed by Cover

>>62886482
It's not his fault, it's fucking middle management (and sometimes direct management)
Hell, it's not even a universal issue in the company because (and forgive me for bringing it up, but it's an important comparison to draw) the homo management made a fucking VN for them (quality notwithstanding, it's the thought) and go out of their way for them meanwhile on the Holo side you have them going COMPLETELY off the grid like IRyS's, being too dumb to tie their own shoes if a contract isn't involved (J-"chad"), or promoted out of a position where they're in direct contact (Jenma save for making sure she's still Kiara's, bless her soul)
Complaints should be made smartly about things such as maybe setting aside some studio time to let Myth have a proper anniversary in the studio together after how much they put up with, and also searching for proper sponsorship opportunities like Tales for the other girls (if they want it)
It's stupid and non-productive to lash out and attack everything including the highest structure, complaints should be orderly and well-structured so people LISTEN and agree instead of knee-jerking to aggressive language

>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit
>Thinks she should have preferential treatment for 3D when everyone is getting screwed by Cover

>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit
>Thinks she should have preferential treatment for 3D when everyone is getting screwed by Cover

I sure trust Cover to be proactive with En after those aforementioned 3d "issues" are resolved it's not like they are incapable of releasing a song in time for Myth's 3rd anniversary that it's still nowhere to be seen, it's probably the 3d dudes that are in charge of that or something.

Or maybe they are keeping it safe for Connect the world 2 so they can brag to investors about their acceleration overseas.

>>62848302
>>how can people hate kiara, she's such a dork

>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit
>Thinks she should have preferential treatment for 3D when everyone is getting screwed by Cover

>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit

>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit

>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit

>>62010127
>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit

Slightly updated list, maybe I’ll try remember more when it’s not 1AM.
>>61996284
>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Said she didn't feel welcome in Gura's chat but people went through logs and couldn't find anyone being annoyed by her
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit

>>61995201
Let me see how hard I can go
>Whined about numbers after debut
>Was so jealous of Gura she took three months to ask for their first collab
>Seethed over Mori getting to sing Dawn Blue
>Pushed early Takamori so hard it became one of the most hated ships in Holo
>Made fun of Aki’s numbers
>Doxxed Subaru (unintentionally but it still counts)
>Stole Ame’s talk show idea
>Desperately tried to beat Ina to 1 million, still lost and then whined about it
>ARE YOU CRYING GURA
>Seethed over IRyS debuting next to her birthday
>Made fun of Council as a concept
>Whined about being left alone during peak impromptu collab season
>”see you nine months”
>Forced a collab relay for New Years Eve 2021
>Called fans spoiled for wanting more streams during the NA Myth offcollab
>Hates Bubba
>Gave everyone Covid while in NA
>Forced Ina to be in her birthday live
>Berated the girls for “not being prepared” during the 2022 anniversary stream despite being just as bad
>Dragged Ame on a trip she didn’t care about
>Never met IRyS while in Japan
>Probably encouraged Gura to be lazy (no concrete evidence but the timeframe matches up)
>Insulted Fauna’s ASMR
>Was a generally poor sport in AoE, now try harding out of jealousy
>called Mumei not sexy
>Bullied Raden about her smoking habit
I’ve probably missed a bunch but these are what I could remember.

>>61616155
Yep, that's all of them.
I wouldn't count Gmod as no one besides myth streamed it, it was myth's 3rd anniversary thing after all and not a collab, a similar point can be made for family feud, since it's just one person playing and the others are on discord. Party animals is the only one I'd say is a valid point, since it was an actual collab. And I really really can't blame her for not having her pov at 6am for fucking BG3.

>>61533079
They genuinely had the worst tone-deaf period to introduce them, and then they took it
>right in the peak of HoloEN being rough in terms of streaming hours
>girls not getting a lot of support (people had been seeing stuff like the HalloweEN event being a scramble by the girls without the management, everyone in rough shape in general at that point
>the Vesper menhera arc was in full memory, being the first EVER HoloPro member to be suspended for internal misconduct in the history of the company (and would later skip their six-month anniversary just after the second gen dropped)
>a year and a half since Council dropped, with the time between Myth and Council having only been one year, people were getting antsy and starting to worry that Tempus (T3MPUS logo) was unironically the EN3 they were stuck with
>the main Hololive audience not being ideologically opposed to Tempus at this point, but basically being content with these four guys as side filler without wanting anything else
Suddenly, FOUR NEW FUCKING DUDES! And instead of trying for the whole "BroTuber" thing like they pretended to be the first time, they went with a Tumblr Sexyman clown, a femboy, a SPANISH-SPEAKING femboy, and a bara male.
At that point, it was game, set and match, and the homobegging on Reddit somehow hit a "final straw" point, where you saw so much negative feedback that they had to shut the whole thing down (which had literally ONLY been done for something on the level of the Taiwan Incident previously) for a while to make things cool off. But it didn't cool, it just went elsewhere, and the cascade basically started from there.
If I was someone who didn't want Tempus to exist, and had to make their continued support go as low as possible, that's probably exactly how I'd wanna do it, except they did it by accident.

>>61083484
Funny thing is that back when the ID portal was supposed to be built, Bae and Fauna were handling it, bit then just decided they wanted Ame to do it even though she was gearing up for Kiara's 3D Birthday and the Myth meet up.

Anyway, what Ame talked about literally happened with Kiara after their first anniversary, where she complained about having to do a lot of the collab prep work, and having to initiate the collabs since she was screwed by time zones, and wanted people to invite her instead. And yet, once Ame decided she had enough, Kiara... took it back again, and not anyone else in Myth or Council.

>>60979905
Hmm I wonder if Promise will beat Myth's Family Feud. On one hand, Promise is stronger on average and it's their "first" collab. On other hand, Myth has Gura and it was their 3rd anniversary. With those factors in mind the game doesn't seem to be very strong.
I want to believe Halloween theme can bring in tourists but you're correct about full overlap however.

As for Minecraft arc, I'm losing hope. Despite the initial promise of wanting to get better at it and saying they feel themselves getting addicted to the game after first collab, they didn't practice whatsoever before next one, as the only ones in Advent. Everybody else played on their own or 1on1 with senpai and they're so far ahead already that FuwaMoco can't really catch up, it's like putting elementary schooler in uni class and expecting them to follow what's happening. The whole giving away diamond gear also means they skipped early progression arc which is crucial for learning process, they still don't comprehend the fundamentals. I had high hopes for JP Micra collab with Miko or Polka or whoever but we only got a one time horror with Fubuki and that's it. Think of how long it's been already. They never play Minecraft outside of Advent collabs, last one three weeks ago, they haven't really built anything, they still don't comprehend the controls. And they're super busy with other things, they even confirmed today they will be even more busy at least until mid November. I fear they might just give up on Minecraft, either permanently or at least this year.

>>60564114
Ina
The only good VR collab was Myth's first anniversary. After that every collab following was more stale than the last.

>>60080122
Which September stream had the quality you were talking about?
The outfit reveal where she was nervous like always when she comes back after a long break and couldn't get her avatar to unblur?
The day full of collabs where she either spent the whole first hour staring at her phone or was medicated, only put full energy in when she hosted her own stream, and then went almost completely silent during the last stream which was the only time she's ever appeared with the kouhais she was "excited" to stream with?
Or was it the anniversary where she pushed her stream start time back an hour so she wouldn't be stuck there longer than she had to for the merch drop, had nothing commissioned, nothing planned, used what she had on hand, some 3d trackers and a walking pad, killed time for an hour, noticed she went a minute over, and then quickly wrapped up the stream? The only myth girl not to sing at all, after she told us she wanted to do end of summer karaoke, and that she wanted to 3d karaoke with her new mocopi trackers, she was literally on the splash party stage with her summer outfit and didn't bother to sing for her fans who are in love with her singing voice.
Tell me where the quality was there, because I fucking missed it. She was absolutely checked out in September and wouldn't have streamed if Cover didn't ask her to.

>>59975146
>Announced she was gonna do a "movie May", only streamed one movie, didn't stream for most of the month
She never promised this, it was just a suggested possibility, she said maybe.
>Said she was gonna do a Back to the Future watchalong "tomorrow", took her something like eight months (somebody can correct me with the exact number) and iirc it only happened after a reddit thread
Not a promise, just a suggestion.
>Has been brought back to streaming by negative reddit threads hitting the frontpage at least twice, never lasted more than a week or two
Not a promise
>Said she would do more ASMR, never did after her initial stream
She said she might. Not a promise.
>Said she wanted to watch the Mario movie with chumbuds, never did
Saying she wants to do something is not a promise. Kill yourself.
>Showed up for both her second and third gen anniversary in an extremely low energy mood, made it clear she didn't want to be part of the collab
Probably because faggot feistybuds and antis like you made her feel like shit. You all caused this shit to happen. It's not her fault. Kill yourself.
>Generally has had near zero engagement in any collabs she's been part of for over a year
Yeah cos the rest of myth fucking SUCK. I don't blame her. Not a promise. Kill yourself.
>Frequently comes back having forgotten how to use OBS or perform basic streaming tasks
Not a promise. OBS is made by pajeets and diversity hires, no wonder their software is unusable
>Rushed a last minute Valentine's stream which had to be cut short due to a collab, promised she'd make it up to her members later, immediately disappeared again, never did a make-up stream
She did not promise, you are making shit up. Kill yourself.
>For a while, used to schedule member streams an hour before collabs she was in so she would have an excuse to cut things short
Cope seethe dilate.
>Intentionally overlapped both Council and Advent during their debuts, including streaming over the first post-debut streams of both gens, despite otherwise being in a period of near total inactivity
Good. All other vtubers fucking suck. kill yourself.
>Is known for overlapping debuts of various other corpos, once delayed her stream for the same amount of time as a corpo debut she was overlapping that was found to be delayed due to technical difficulties
Good fuck other corpos. All they do is cuck their viewers.
>Overlapped several of Bijou's streams down to the minute during her debut week, matching several marathon streams (including a 7-hour one) and ending within five minutes of Bijou ending.
Good. Other vtubers suck.
>Was spotted by chumbuds playing games alone after cancelling a stream
She can do what she wants when she wants, faggot. Kill yourself.
>Had a ghosting arc where she barely streamed or communicated with her fans, but could be spotted on other people's Rust streams nearly every day for a month
If you didn't have fun BigFish hunting during the rust arc, that's you're fucking failing. You're a faggot and should kill yourself.

>>59842011
Party Animals lets you play with up to 4 players on the same device online, you have to be the room host though IIRC
My guess
>Ina copied the Myth anniversary collab description (the order of the myth members is the same)
>She then pasted the members that are showing up on the collab
>Nerissa was originally the 8th because Fuwamoco were gonna play as 1 but after they found out Fuwamoco can both play on the same device someone had to drop out and that was Nerissa

>>59430095
The you shouldn't forget after her valentines day stream was thrown together last minute and full of scuff , she said she would make it up to membershrimp. Now we are heading to October and still nothing. And for an added bonus, she is the only one from Myth without a 3 year badge (as of this post) and her membership anniversary is this Saturday.

>>59410948
Every day it's more and more obvious that managers/staff don't give a single shit about the EN audience, they prioritize shilling JP shit/holostars on all the official EN spaces over doing anything for EN girls, like when they advertised the holostar anniversary like a week ahead of time but only advertised the myth girl's anniversary collabs like hours beforehand, and only retweeted each girl's anniversary merch and not even their anniversary streams. Every time I go on the Hololive EN twitter its 70% JP streams/events being tweeted about. Even their reddit staff is fucking trash, didn't even put up a stickied thread for myth anniversaries until hours after Kiara's was already over, they are just lazy and absolutely don't care about engaging with the EN audience at all unless they want to sell us something.

>>59189545
I gave her a chance for improvement after that horrendous karaoke
But instead she's crashing her reputation with her collab choices and being a literal retard
Reminder that she was the only Advent absent during the Myth anniversary due to not being able to set the fucking game