/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>36842118
This "end of July" stance is so dumb and graph anon should be ashamed for even bringing it up. This was 100% a way to rile up more shitposting and drama here and he's always been very disingenuous with his phrasing of things. He knows far more than he lets on and always chooses to make these weird phrasings along with shit like "what could have made this happen?!"

You can literally see that August was performing on a similar level to June, and was by far outperforming May. In fact, you can literally see on the fucking graph that in July the median and average was starting to go down by the end of the month. But even aside from all that, it's pretty clear how the months went and why they were big. You don't need a giant 150 iq brain to understand this.
>June
Gura's bday, Myth offcollabs
>July
Sana's graduation tour
>August
Council's anniversary

This is why the point of "July 2022" is disingenuous as fuck. He and many KNOW that August was the anniversary month and the cap-off to Council's year. What followed after was September's Myth anniversary but the problem was that, again, what everyone already know, was that Myth fucking took the entire month off for no reason. Gura had her life then fucked off for 2 weeks, Mori went on vacation, Ame disappeared for a time and Ina was being Ina. So after all that, once school started and people were on breaks people just naturally moved over to vod watching or clip watching, or just felt content not watchin streams after.

What's happening now is something that seems far more on youtube's end than EN, but the way people try to frame it is something just ridiculous.
>Tempus caused EN to die!
Yes just like how Tempus caused Shoto, Vshojo, Myth, Council, NijiEN and anyone adjacent to also recline at the same exact time! And because of this, people just start the same fucking timeloop over and over and over again. It's gotten so tiring.

I'd say it's more
>Releasing the song when half your audience is asleep
>Half the Myth members are asleep and can't retweet it
>No collab to funnel people in
The song should have released immediately after the Anniversary collab.

>>34261860
Ideally they'd premier it right after the anniversary stream, but since that fell through, the next best thing is to have a few EN members stream during primetime, then funnel viewers into the premier later that evening.
I'm not even a numberfag, I'm just a huge Myth fan and I want the song to get recognized. I'm just sick of the phenomenon of people going "oh there was a new song released? I didn't hear about it"

>>34216348
After she announced worms collab, she earned the most superchats on 2nd year anniversary stream comparing to other myth members.

>>34084822
Are you new to youtube? It usually takes until 2~3 hours after the stream ends before it starts calculating views. Then you gotta worry about when it gets frozen from too much activity over multiple collabs of the same game because some people watch the same stream from different POVs then you've gotta worry about those views being purged because those people watched multiple streams at the same time.

Also CCV only really helps early on, after that, people have to care to watch the stream to get views after the initial interest for it which is usually 2 days and 2 weeks for the higher interest vtubers. CCV don't mean much in the end since there are plenty of streams that do better than what the CCV says. Myth 2nd anniversary doing better than Council's 1st anniversary, Gura's last sponsor stream even being her weakest viewed video still has more views than Tempus's monetization stream with higher CCV. Even Gura's Duolingo stream has more views on it and it certainly didn't have that high of a viewership as her new outfit reveals. Despite what people claim as CCV mattering, I think it's more subject matter matters most in longevity and whether people will return to a stream or not after its initial period of relevancy.

They get along fine as collogues but they aren't friends and that should have been seen far sooner than it was.

To me, the 2021 Minecraft Festival made it clear to me that for most of them they weren't friends. Ame and Gura still presented a united front together. They would crack a little later on. Kiara tried to poke Takamori back into relevance. It would be officially dead after the Bloom After You reading. Ina fucked off out of Myth and spent the festival with Lamy, Polka and Nene.

A major sign they were dead as collaborative partners was after Cope arrived and it was clear these girls had taken the time to get to know each other. For a brief moment IRyS and Ina worked really well together ( and was probably the last time Ina gave a shit about regular streaming) until Bae spoiled that. Gura fucked off with the Council quickly, Mori lost interest which was probably because of her working in the background to secure what she wanted out of Hololive in the first place - The UMG deal. Kiara focused her attentions on Holotori and Ame who was beginning her 3D studio. Ame got real sick and stopped regularly streaming, leaving her left behind for months. This would have had an effect on her relationships with Council if she wasn't fucking autistic to start with.

There was a brief resurgence for them as a united front after their 1st anniversary, but then the dumbfucks started promising the moon with 3D and new outfits that were delayed to the point of no one giving a fuck anymore. By Third Fes and their awkward as fuck no chemistry skit before the concert they were officially dead.

They don't hate each other and individuals inside Myth are friendly with each other. They just aren't comfortable as a group and it shows.

>>33815600
As a numberfags is fucking sad how they managed to ruing HoloEN's amazing start and failed to capitalize on that shit. I'm gonna be livid if the EN3 debuts dont even break 100k anymore after looking at Sana's graduation and Gura's 3D live after Myth's disappointing anniversary numbers.

>>33813738
>en3 oct-nov
>irys redesign dec it'll come with santa outfit
>id2 3d announcement jan
>councilrys 3d announcement the week after
>myth 3d showcase feb-mar
>councilrys and id2 in fes4 announcement
>id2 3d showcase may
>councilrys 3d showcase jun-jul (2nd anniversary)

“Watson Detective Agency.”

>”Hey Watson! I heawd you’we sellin’ Caws now!”

“Yeah, kinda hard to run a Taxi service when your garage gets snapped from existence.”

>”Uhh…”

“I mean, when your garage gets uhh… burninated… or someone crams a Swiss cake roll in the server.”

>”Ohh, I get it. So uh… anything else?”

“Myth celebrated it’s 2 year anniversary!”

>”two yeaws alweady? Happy biwthday Watson!”

“Homestar, it’s not my bir-“

>”Can I get you to pose with my lil’ puddin? I wanna post it to my pawents gwoup!”

“Ask me again after the new year. How about you Homestar?”

>”Oh, Stwong Bad got a new game for his Lappy, so I got to make a couple o’ “Contwactually Obligated Appeawances”

“You do anything helpful?”

>”No. but hey, somebody’s gotta make that money!”

“Sounds nic-Hang on Homestar, the next Battle Royale’s starting, I gotta go.”

>”Don’t fowget to get ye flask!”

New Strong Bad video out.

>>33496674
Why would I want to see more Myth, the 2nd Anniversary was just last week. I wanted to see even more JPs sing with her, they were all great picks. Gura unironically seems to know how to make good creative/artistic decisions, I mean she is an "artist" after all, otherwise her brain wouldn't have focused on singing from early on.

After seeing the result of this concert and the likely backroom discord and fighting with management, the shade that Gura threw during the 2nd Myth anniversary when Kiara tried to get them to make a promise to 'improve themselves' makes alot more sense now.

>>33433870
Hold on I'm trying to figure out how many announcements this is now.
>Gura announces her anniversary stream at the main Myth anniversary stream will have an announcement
>During her anniversary she announces that she has an announcement that she'll give during her karaoke
>After her karaoke, she announces two mystery things that will be announced at her Live
>At her live, she announces mystery merch which will be announced at a later date
Is that everything?

>>33370520
Lol, she's fallen so far that even kiara publicly chewed her out in the anniversary stream
Ame had told her fans they need to improve themselves instead of complaining about collabs with men

A few weeks later, kiara told all the myth girls that,"we need to improve ourselves first before we expect others to do so," this was right after kiara publicly stated she will not collab with tempus and that she would have liked to have a group collab with the girls instead

Since you've been gone awhile, its basically mori, ame and bae trying to force male group collabs with everyone, and gura, kiara, irys, ina and fauna who want nothing to do with it.
Mumei collabed with a jp holostar but has since ignored the en males, Kronii collabed with the en males and went on a huge meltdown after fans didn't like it, causing her to flipflop on positions and eventually go on forced vacation, has ignored the males ever since

>>33249755
If I were anyone from Myth I wouldn't dare to ask to split the earnings after all Ame has done. I'm sure Ame got everything from the anniversary collab. They did seperate anniv streams afterwards anyway.

So, is it safe to say that EN3 has been canned now? They updated the audition page after running the auditions for 9 months, this shows that they don't have any plans to actually go through with debuting a new EN gen. The Myth girls also didn't say a word about a new gen when they were talking about the future during the anniversary stream. So far, I can't see a single thing that even points to a new gen being a possibility at this point.

>>33226058
Based

That bitch is not an idol after her unprofessional behavior in the 2nd Myth Anniversary

>>33156290
Eh, full Myth group songs don't really have a great track record anyway.
The first one, "Country Roads" was such a disaster with all the delays and shitty production that none of the talents even liked it anymore by the time it came out and rather just memory-hole it.
"Myth or Treat" was okay I guess, but kinda too short anyway to count as a full song.
I don't really care for "Journey of a Thousand Years", it's not as bad as Country Roads and not as good as Myth or Treat, and it came at a point where actual Myth Unity was already kinda dying so I couldn't even really connect to it on an emotional level.

Like, sure, I appreciate the idea of full group songs on an abstract level, in theory they should stand as symbols of collective achievement and a celebration of the generation, but in practice I don't really care for them after a while (just like most of the talents don't really care for them, or gen unity in general which nowadays with all the regular cliques seems just a farce they'll trot out for the annual anniversary stream and forget again afterwards) and I have more emotional investment and connection to the individual songs of my particular oshi (just like fans of other talents will likely always prioritize their oshi's personal songs) or the occasional duet with people they actually have a real bond with.

I think it's clear Pekora literally schedule her streams based on the tally. She play Rust yesterday because she fear King will beat Myth anniversary after seeing their number

>>33126511
you can thank their vr gimmick for that but sadly for myth, council had the superior anniversary
gura can only attract so many people after all

Ccvbros? I thought you said that ccv mattered? Myth 2nd anniversary is at 382k views in over 20 hours while the Council 1st anniversary is at 381k views after over 3 weeks.

>>33120587
please don't post screenshots or videos from the myth collab. it just reminds me of the darkness that's ahead of us. no new outfits. no new 3D. no new members. there is absolutely nothing to look forward to after gura's anniversary stream. it hurts too much.

>that moment near the beginning of the myth anniversary when ame and gura crossed eyes and after a bit Gura looked away first without saying anything
She still feels bad about pranking ame doesn't she...

For her frequent yabs, Mori had to be punished by management. However, considering all she's done for the company, management gave her options:
>Graduate immediately after the second Myth anniversary
>Go to a lunch with Ouro Kronii, an offended party, at the party's restaurant of choice
>Go to Brazil
Her plane lands in Rio de Janeiro in an hour.

So, is it safe to say that EN3 is going to be at october now? They updated the audition page after running the auditions for 9 months, this shows that they have finally gotten a new gen and plans to actually go through with debuting a new EN gen. The Myth girls also didn't say a word about a new gen when they were talking about the future during the anniversary stream. So far, I can't see a single thing that even points to a new gen not being a possibility at this point.