/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>77650800
The way I see it, there are only two possible rational explanations for the black stream.
>Possibility 1: Doki has dirt on them
If Doki has irrefutable evidence of being bullied/harassed by people working for Nijisanji (or Nijisanji believed that she did), and whoever is in charge of NijiEN believed that she was going to use the Neopets stream as cover to drop those receipts, then it was an attempt to get ahead of the accusations by muddying the waters and introducing doubt into the public consciousness.
>Possibility 2: They just hate her that much
Doki was really looking forward to the Neopets stream, so they intentionally did it specifically to ruin her evening, and damn the consequences.
Of course, it’s entirely possible that the truth is a combination of these or even is neither.
As for why they chose specifically Elira, Vox, and Ike, I think there’s a pretty good explanation for that, too.
>Elira: Lore and aesthetic connections to Selen, and she has the second largest audience as far as the female livers go, while being less prone to being retarded on main than Enna, so she has public good will that she can bank on. And if you find the rrats credible, she’s also something of the queen bee within the branch.
>Vox: This one is easy, he has the largest audience in the branch, so he’s most likely to convince the most people.
>Ike: My understanding is that he was seen as one of Selen’s friends while in the company and they worked together somewhat regularly, so having him there lends a measure of perceived credibility to their accusations.

>>77656077
subs dont count, ok but remind me again who is the highest earner in niji en and overall third placed on the company with all of the amazing jp old guard livers ? is it pomu ? no ? selen ? hell no.

>>77655865
Why would livers have an Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) server?

Nijisanji EN YouTube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/channels
https://www.youtube.com/@petragurin/channels

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1415262975435231235

LazuLight:
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu

OBSYDIA:
https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock
https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin

Ethyria:
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette
https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou

Luxiem:
https://twitter.com/Luca_Kaneshiro
https://twitter.com/Shu_Yamino
https://twitter.com/Ike_Eveland
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma

Noctyx:
https://twitter.com/sonny_brisko
https://twitter.com/uki_violeta
https://twitter.com/alban_knox
https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid

ILUNA:
https://twitter.com/MariaMari0nette
https://twitter.com/AiaAmare
https://twitter.com/AsterArcadia
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni
https://twitter.com/RenZott0

XSOLEIL:
https://twitter.com/D_Dropscythe
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran
https://twitter.com/HexHaywire
https://twitter.com/KotokaTorahime
https://twitter.com/Ver_Vermillion

Krisis:
https://twitter.com/VezaliusBandage
https://twitter.com/Tyrant_Vanta
https://twitter.com/YuQWilson

TTT:
https://twitter.com/KunaiNakasato
https://twitter.com/VBrightshield
https://twitter.com/ClaudeClawmark

Denauth:
https://twitter.com/RyomaBarrenwort
https://twitter.com/KlaraCharmwood
https://twitter.com/TwistyAmanozako

Teamup schedule for Nijisanji EN:
https://teamup.com/kstk7egnopr3xiqj4h

To watch streams at the same time:
https://niji-mado.web.app/home

Graduated Livers and Miscellaneous:
https://rentry.org/odmo2psr

Reminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.

Previous thread: >>77646188

>>77653711
I mean, how would sayu even know what was he thinking? Did he come out to her in private and tell her that "yeah I'm siccing my fanbase on you, hail niji". The statement condemning her jokes was going to happen no matter what. Niji made their livers apologize for eating mcdonalds and drinking starbucks. There was absolutely going to be such a statement. People simply are more supportive due to the vindication after the selen debacle. If zaion was still in niji then same people would have taken these jokes apart and wrote paragraphs upon paragraphs about how she is a horrible person who probably was the main bully.

Tldr: Sayu's context is merely an emotional reaction is a product of her own theorising a situation. And she would have been attacked by catalogfags for the same jokes had she managed to stay in nijisanji.

>>77649503
>Livers
Kys nijinegro

The most commonly accepted theory is that they thought Doki would launch a huge offensive against them with a google dox, lawsuit etc.
So they became obsessed with the idea of striking first and taking the wind out of her sails by making her look like a liar before she even said anything. Putting your side out first is incredibly valuable in PR and I hopefully don't have to explain why.
However, "Attack, smear, character assassinate" has ALWAYS been Niji's go-to strategy for terminations (see Zaion, Gundou and according to rrats it was even gonna happen to Yugo), and this was merely amplified by their fear of what Doki would say.

Then you have to consider how much they huff their own farts, their fanbase has been so utterly brainwashed for so long they really thought everyone would just go along and believe them when they said "suicide victim bad, pls hate her".
And yes it happened out of their own free will, I have no idea how anyone can watch that shit and pretend they had a gun held to their heads. They spoke with utter conviction and even several of the other Nijiscum that promoted the stream clearly tried to convince everyone that they were in the right. Hell Ren even explicitly shot down the "skinwalking" cope.

Fun fact: Their CCV didn't completely collapse until after the black stream (Feb 2024). Even with the suicide fiasco and AnyColor's absolutely retarded smearing notice, Nijifags were still trying to excuse the whole fiasco by pretending so hard that the organs were innocent. The mainstream narrative was even that AnyColor LITERALLY INVENTED the "harassed by other livers" line to deflect from management.
The black stream made it clear beyond reasonable doubt that no, the organs aren't innocent, and yes they are as much of a sociopathic snakes as antis have always assumed.
So yeah they could have probably survived if they hadn't done this. They'd still be considered a black corp by most people but there would be enough Nijidrones who would cling to that "support the organs while criticizing the company (aka support the company)" horseshit. But they were too sociopathic to realize how sociopathic they look to normal human beings, and the rest is history.

>>77649503
>livers

>>77649223
>>77649440
So you both admit to falsifying narratives under speculation to justify attacking livers. Very sad.

>>77649135
Nijisanji giving Ex-Livers PTSD isn't a meme

>>77648574
You're just proving my point. Kiara and Pomu are close friends. Kiara still talks to Enna and Millie all the time.
It's you who is the tourist that made up things to attack the livers who are completely innocent. Did you know that Baelz from Hololive English is also friends with Elira? She even directed her fans to go to her first 3D debut you know. There was even an anon who kept track of all of their interactions in a pastebin.
Even though everyone knows that by any form of association, Bae who is also friends with Mumei who is friends with Doki should clear her. Yet the broader "vtuber community" casted her as an evil tyrant or some shadow management figure.
You are the tourist. You are the evil one who made up excuses and fake premises to attack the livers to divide the community even further.

>>77647024
I have a theory that most people weren't that outraged by the Selen thing. NijiEN and their livers have been pissing people off one by one for years and if they brought it up they'd get wheelbarrowed by sisters and twitter monkeys. Once everyone realized that most people agreed with them about NijiEN they started openly shitting on NijiEN and the people who'd shout them down couldn't put out the fires.

Nijisanji EN YouTube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/channels
https://www.youtube.com/@petragurin/channels

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1415262975435231235

LazuLight:
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu

OBSYDIA:
https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock
https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin

Ethyria:
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette
https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou

Luxiem:
https://twitter.com/Luca_Kaneshiro
https://twitter.com/Shu_Yamino
https://twitter.com/Ike_Eveland
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma

Noctyx:
https://twitter.com/sonny_brisko
https://twitter.com/uki_violeta
https://twitter.com/alban_knox
https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid

ILUNA:
https://twitter.com/MariaMari0nette
https://twitter.com/AiaAmare
https://twitter.com/AsterArcadia
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni
https://twitter.com/RenZott0

XSOLEIL:
https://twitter.com/D_Dropscythe
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran
https://twitter.com/HexHaywire
https://twitter.com/KotokaTorahime
https://twitter.com/Ver_Vermillion

Krisis:
https://twitter.com/VezaliusBandage
https://twitter.com/Tyrant_Vanta
https://twitter.com/YuQWilson

TTT:
https://twitter.com/KunaiNakasato
https://twitter.com/VBrightshield
https://twitter.com/ClaudeClawmark

Denauth:
https://twitter.com/RyomaBarrenwort
https://twitter.com/KlaraCharmwood
https://twitter.com/TwistyAmanozako

Teamup schedule for Nijisanji EN:
https://teamup.com/kstk7egnopr3xiqj4h

To watch streams at the same time:
https://niji-mado.web.app/home

Graduated Livers and Miscellaneous:
https://rentry.org/odmo2psr

Reminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.

Previous thread: >>77637604

>>77644337
Please understand, their livers concerts can't sell tickets, meanwhile, Holo just announced two converts and people are already having saying it's all sold out
Like a hornet's nest of women on their period, they're being lashing out.

i thought livers weren't allowed to member each other anymore?

>>77643899
i understood your post, he would never show other livers anti shit like selen did but i know for a fact he keeps tabs on us in here, how could he not, he hates this stupid general but it's 4chan you never stop visiting

The upside of Selen being gone is I don't have to worry about her being a containment breaker and showing my cringe posts ITT to the rest of the livers on discord.

Nijisanji EN YouTube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/channels
https://www.youtube.com/@petragurin/channels

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1415262975435231235

LazuLight:
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu

OBSYDIA:
https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock
https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin

Ethyria:
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette
https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou

Luxiem:
https://twitter.com/Luca_Kaneshiro
https://twitter.com/Shu_Yamino
https://twitter.com/Ike_Eveland
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma

Noctyx:
https://twitter.com/sonny_brisko
https://twitter.com/uki_violeta
https://twitter.com/alban_knox
https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid

ILUNA:
https://twitter.com/MariaMari0nette
https://twitter.com/AiaAmare
https://twitter.com/AsterArcadia
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni
https://twitter.com/RenZott0

XSOLEIL:
https://twitter.com/D_Dropscythe
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran
https://twitter.com/HexHaywire
https://twitter.com/KotokaTorahime
https://twitter.com/Ver_Vermillion

Krisis:
https://twitter.com/VezaliusBandage
https://twitter.com/Tyrant_Vanta
https://twitter.com/YuQWilson

TTT:
https://twitter.com/KunaiNakasato
https://twitter.com/VBrightshield
https://twitter.com/ClaudeClawmark

Denauth:
https://twitter.com/RyomaBarrenwort
https://twitter.com/KlaraCharmwood
https://twitter.com/TwistyAmanozako

Teamup schedule for Nijisanji EN:
https://teamup.com/kstk7egnopr3xiqj4h

To watch streams at the same time:
https://niji-mado.web.app/home

Graduated Livers and Miscellaneous:
https://rentry.org/odmo2psr

Reminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.

Previous thread: >>77626003

>>77636687
>>77636810
exactly, it's an outfit aster chose because he personally likes it. anons can cry about lore outfits all they want but if the livers don't enjoy it themselves then there's no point.
>>77636854
thank you

>>77636297
and how many songs are in gura's channels ? compared that to vox, he is no singer. of course he will be mogged by great singers, thats why finana is the highest niji en livers from views gained alone. her song with kyo is successful in getting clicks.
>>77636235
bettel on the other hand, failed on his 3d debut after winning dokibird's wrestletuber event. oh no, wasnt that event supposed to propel him to stardom because it was created by the goddess herself ?

Nijisanji EN YouTube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/channels
https://www.youtube.com/@petragurin/channels

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1415262975435231235

LazuLight:
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu

OBSYDIA:
https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock
https://twitter.com/Petra_Gurin

Ethyria:
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette
https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou

Luxiem:
https://twitter.com/Luca_Kaneshiro
https://twitter.com/Shu_Yamino
https://twitter.com/Ike_Eveland
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma

Noctyx:
https://twitter.com/sonny_brisko
https://twitter.com/uki_violeta
https://twitter.com/alban_knox
https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid

ILUNA:
https://twitter.com/MariaMari0nette
https://twitter.com/AiaAmare
https://twitter.com/AsterArcadia
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni
https://twitter.com/RenZott0

XSOLEIL:
https://twitter.com/D_Dropscythe
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran
https://twitter.com/HexHaywire
https://twitter.com/KotokaTorahime
https://twitter.com/Ver_Vermillion

Krisis:
https://twitter.com/VezaliusBandage
https://twitter.com/Tyrant_Vanta
https://twitter.com/YuQWilson

TTT:
https://twitter.com/KunaiNakasato
https://twitter.com/VBrightshield
https://twitter.com/ClaudeClawmark

Denauth:
https://twitter.com/RyomaBarrenwort
https://twitter.com/KlaraCharmwood
https://twitter.com/TwistyAmanozako

Teamup schedule for Nijisanji EN:
https://teamup.com/kstk7egnopr3xiqj4h

To watch streams at the same time:
https://niji-mado.web.app/home

Graduated Livers and Miscellaneous:
https://rentry.org/odmo2psr

Reminder to ignore bait, shitposting, samefags, discordfags, numberfags, tribalfags, and falseflaggers.

Previous thread: >>77614365

Phasers are the best livers.
Good night, /pcg/.

>>77617511
I do hope Zomboid doesn't sputter out, and that Dawntrail will be worth something. And much as I'm mildly annoyed, Finana's drunk horror collabs and Helldivers are pretty consistent groups next to Elira's own and whoever I may be forgetting. Would still want more girls time since RosePeto was good. Doppio's had a decent track record too, at the very least, but it will be a bit until there's something worth confidently taking advantage of for a big evenr. Lots of good things have happened with Livers just taking things into their own hands. I'll just pray that the backhalf brings a bit of that.

>>77615964
JP Livers, they plan stuff plenty, but some collab groups come together nicely, almost spontaneously, with multiplayer-adjacent new releases. But I guess that's a benefit of 100+ streamers. The consistent MHWorld collabs are surprising. And Rion-ojou's considering Persona (though it kinda is the popular thing along with old-school FF). But it comes off as new ground or going out of her comfort zone for her (to me). But I guess I wanna see both my oshi on the same level, and am spiralling again.