/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>77470988
I went back to anime and my life got better. Every time I go back to VTubers I start feeling depressed again.

Hello ruffians!
Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!
Day 300: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. For anki I've learned 5 new cards. For immersion I've watched one episode of an anime.
Day 300, huh? I'm getting closer and closer to that 1 year mark... Recap of the last 100 days is the same as the recap of the second 100 days: anki and immersion.
Anki: I continued with doing just 5 cards a day and now I only have 213 new cards left to go through. I should be done with it just a few days before anniversary. It was not a smooth sailing though. One of the main mechanics in Anki is that you grade yourself after you see the back side of the card. When using it for learning Japanese vocab you have to remember two things after seeing the word on the front of the card: it's reading and the meaning. For some reason, my brain, for the most words, links meaning to the reading, not the writing, kanji used or the "look of the word". That's why I started doing something silly: after I saw the word on the front of the card I used to firstly think about it's reading, close my eyes and immediately reveal the back side, so the recording of it's reading would start. When I confirmed I had recalled it's reading correctly only then I'd think about it's meaning, cause for the most part if I correctly remembered the reading I'd guess the meaning as well. After that I'd open my eyes and actually check if the meaning is right too. I also started paying too much attention to the card intervals when grading myself. If I saw the card that had a really long review interval even if I almost didn't remember it at all I would be like: "Damn, I don't wanna reset that interval, let's just click Hard instead of Again and I'll hopefully remember it the next time". One more aspect was that I did way, way, WAY more listening than reading immersion and it led to the situation where I had really hard time recalling anything about the word from it's writing, but when I'd hear the riding (hear, cause I was keeping my eyes closed when I revealed the card) I'd be like "Oh, yeah, I know that, how could I forget it, let's not click Again". All of that combined made me do my reps really quickly, but not actually learning much. Around 25 days ago I finally put a stop to all of that and started properly grading myself. Of course, it then meant that I was clicking on the Again button way more, I reset the interval of a bunch of cards and the cards started piling up which led to the multiple days of 90+ minutes long Anki sessions. Nowadays, I'm not as strict as I was during that repentance period, sometimes when I don't have much time or I'm not feeling it I'm still grading in the little bit of a easier criteria, but I'm trying to not do it all the times and especially not multiple days in a row.
Immersion: I was mostly focused on watching JP streams. Both FUWAMOCO and JP chuuba ones. In the last month I was craving some anime, so I switched back to anime again. Percentage vise, there was not a drastic increase of understanding in the last 100 days: on the day 200 I sad that I understood roughly 30% of the JP content, now it's maybe like 35%. With the margin that small it may even be the same as before, but I just made myself think I understand more. It's probably due to the fact that time vise I wasn't actually immersing that long every day. Whenever I said that I watched JP stream, it wasn't a whole stream, it was probably around 45 minutes on average.
Wow, they've put up waiting rooms for a lot of streams! I'm particularly looking forward to the Minecraft stream.
FUWAMOCO love!
BAU BAU!

>>76752836
The western Vtubing audience is really odd, because it's way overrepresented on the hardcore end of weebery, yet is completely invisible to the casual anime audience. There was a short-term spike during lockdown because new anime completely stopped airing, but that audience went back to anime.

FWIW, I agree that the problem isn't specifically the normalization of anime in XYZ countries - because Anime is plenty large and mainstream in East/Southeast Asia, yet that region has managed to generate a grand total of fuckall for actual Vtubers. On the other hand, looking to Japan, the only long-term successes they've got are Hololive and the regional equivalents of...not their Ninja/XQC, maybe something closer to high-mid tier OTK or something (Kuzuha/Kanae/etc.). And with even NijiJP showing signs of flatlining, it seems like growth in Vtubing is going to be almost entirely dictated by Hololive.

But then you have to ask yourself - is there any numbers equivalent in EN to Pekora streaming DBZ Kakarot? Would anyone in the ENsphere sit through dozens of hours of something like Persona 4, or Dragon Quest, or what have you? We're fairly confident that HoloEN Minecraft works, yet StarsEN and NijiEN Minecraft kinda went nowhere. What exactly would an EN Vtuber, or company of them, need to do to achieve the sort of growth that HoloJP experiences? As it stands, there are almost no western examples to pull from on YouTube, and the sole non-convert non-corpo success I might point to (Fillian) is currently more washed up than anyone in HoloEN.

>>75779561
After I know a real girl can't reach that kind of whiteness without using filters edit, I stop wanking to 3DPD and just back to anime girls.

>>74796867
I told you the Selen drama wasn't just going to affect Nijisanji negatively. Now people have lost faith in the vtuber industry in general and many people who had oshis on either side are going back to anime and Vocaloid.

>We should wrap up soon
>Back to anime talk

I really like how Oli made this whole arc go from anime into Polling for random stuff then back to anime just to keep the entire group hyped up.
Reminds me a bit of my brother.
Dude will always give space to the specialist interests but always make sure the people who care less don't get bored. Really skilled at not just talking but keeping the rest talking.

>>73439309
She is very much a gamer anon, she just doesn't do much gaming content on stream.
She spends almost all of her time gaming and watching anime, then she does 5 miles of running and streams and then goes back to anime and gaming and then sleeps.
Basically she's the perfect woman and I want to marry her

>hahaha I have a controversial claim!
>prove it's true
>no I'm not spoonfeeding you
And that's why it's never worth arguing with anyone on the internet.
Wish I could just ignore all of you and watch Poko but I'm slowly losing interest in vtubers in general. Maybe I'll just go back to anime.

I recommend going back to anime or videogames or whatever you did before Gura. Things are never going to get better
>but le last chumbud
Yeah good luck with that, she'll never drop from 7k even if she's gone for a year

>>72479595
>Want to try this prompt
>Switch back to anime model
>Forget to remove photo, realistic, irl from prompt and source_anime from negative
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

bisco, naki, serafi...
i think i’ll just go back to anime

>>69645735
I'm thinking of gradually reducing the amount of chuubas I keep up with to like 3 at most. Then use the extra time to go back to anime, maybe look for that one comfy /a/ general each season and have a good time there instead of doomscrolling /vt/.

>>69618628
Only solution is give them fat ugly bastard models or delete them so these women go back to anime and kshit

>>69163884
you ARE watching real people you moron, they are just hiding their face
go watch neuro sama or go back to anime

vtubers were a mistake. true 2d will never betray or disappoint. i'm going back to anime waifus

>>68425406
Back to anime and bl like normal fujos instead of pretending they like vidya

>>67798401
go back to anime its not that deep anon

>Comes back
>Sings one song
>Goes back to anime talk
We're so back

>>67010541
>my hobby
Watching streamers isn't a hobby and it certainly isn't "yours". Go back to anime.

>>66342448
>girls
That was your first mistake. The existence of men to orbit makes it impossible to have a comfy, stress-free experience with a female. Just go back to anime like nature intended.

You guys should stop watching vtubers. I went back to anime and video games. These whores aren't worth your time. They are parasites who can't exist without your support. Kinda sad really. They should get a real job.

>>65645911
it dieded for a moment during grand finals but now the tournament is over and she's back to anime street fighter

Not traumadumping, but spoiled for cringe.

When Shiori debuted, I wasn't excited for Advent, I had fallen out of touch with Vtubers and mostly watched clips or kept up with the major events. I had migrated back to anime. I didn't watch her debut from the start, and if it wasn't recommended to me on Youtube, I wouldn't have clicked on it. As soon as I did I was greeted with a story about catsex, so that was funny. I subscribed after her debut but wasn't sure if I would watch her religiously, her next stream concept piqued my interest, so I made sure to watch.

And from there a new world started opening to me, but I was still a passive viewer for the first few streams. It wasn't until she was talking about a subject I'm passionate about that I couldn't hold myself back and commented in livechat, something I've never done before outside of "888888" or "wwwww" back on NicoNico, usually for Utaite long long ago.

She read my comment out, and looking back, that was probably game over for me. From then on I started participating in livechat more. After a few streams I started commenting and by the end of August I was all in. Writing for prompts, checking out her Twitter, watching the whole stream. I usually left when it was time for superchat readings, so I'm glad Shiori integrates them. If she did a pure reading stream it would have filtered me early on, but nowadays I'd watch every second of it.

But of course in the middle of the month we had the first vacation. I was /here/ at the time, and things were rough, but I'm glad you guys were around. I wasn't in too deep by then, so it was easier for me to watch anime and go along with my life. Something that's a little harder now. I miss her very dearly. But I try make do with what she's done, and I appreciate the effort she's put in to making sure we're looked after. Would have been easy to prepare nothing and go full radio silent for a month. I'm very, very grateful she's not doing that.

The next dilemma was when it came time for memberships. Looking at some of the other tiers I was struggling with justifying $25 a month, $300 a year toward Shiori. So when it turned out that her membership was only $10 for Novelknight tier, it was a no brainer. I'm grateful for that, but it's also a smart decision, I'm sure.

I've never understood the people who go gachikoi for a vtuber, I've never understood wanting to give someone else money, transactional mindset and all. I've never understood clamoring to play games with someone. But now, with Shiori, I understand. It's not all been easy, but I'm happy for her existence. I'm happy she's in Hololive. I'm happy this thread exists. My life is objectively better over these last few months than it has been in a long time, and I like that. It's nice.

tl;dr: Shiori Novella makes me happy, very happy. You guys do too. I enjoy my time here.