/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68293103
The one fix that niji talents should have done from the start is to unionize. I don't mean in the New Deal sense of the word, but to actually unionize. Take all their efforts away form this so-called management and go "indie" together.

Vtubers need to unionize, it's the only way

>>68254787
Unironically a lot of talent-oriented entertainment fields DO unionize. Vtubing is still just nascent but it will probably get there.

>>68176382
Your logic doesn’t make sense. Even if you say half of the girls audience is in the west the only one that could be considered popular is Gura. If you throw in 70% Mori, and Mumei might barely squeak over the line if you’re being really generous. They are successful but they aren’t popular and if myth started as a 3 person group removing those 2 they’d barely be above ID. Make it a 4 person group and they’d be a trash version of Gokisei. Gura however could be considered popular. So this mythical strawman is in fact correct they aren’t popular in the west but they are SUCCESSFUL. I have to emphasize that because a lot of you are retards

>>68177321
Dubbed voice actors aren’t bad you’re thinking of the unionized youtubers that got roles because retarded directors thought it would drive sales. Vin Diesel isn’t a voice actor just because he does voice work and neither are they. And myth being in between is true but I don’t like your phrasing. Ame, Mori and Kiara were one side with Ina and Gura on the other. It wasn’t all of myth half cringing half being serious about vtubing it was just those 3. Also I know this thread is made because of Mori and she’s a fucking liar. Despite her obsession with this place no one thought they’d be lazy they thought they wouldn’t be like the Japanese members sincere and trying to improve themselves daily. Which was very true especially when you look at their own words and actions in the beginning

>Luxiem gets a 3D concert just for them
>Elira's clique becomes green with envy and unionizes to complain with management
>Luxiem's concert turns into a Golden 20 concert
>Gets scrapped because Anycolor can't/won't deal with the extra 15 people
>Luxiem are the most vocal in voicing their dissatisfaction
>Mysta graduates the same year, ensuring that Luxiem will NEVER perform together in 3D
That's a pretty funny story.

It is really ironic that the most powerful weapon a talent has to cause a shitstorm, is just staying silent.
Imagine the leverage they could have if they just unionized and all went on radio silence for a month.

I want to unionize with those thighs

>>67549723
Based Pal devs. Why is it the anti-capitalist types on social media hate indie devs so much and bootlick the giant corporation that fired a legend like Charles Martinet to get cheaper non-union voice actor and stops their employees from unionizing? I understand AI really bothers them and all but they always seem to land with the status quo no matter the issue.

>>67532957
Remember, the bedbugs bite because they care. Bastards forcing the bedbugs to work overtime, soon they'll unionize.

>>67370563
>points fervently at the “VTubers are in Need of Unionization” sign
casuals are fucking retarded
one of the reasons why nijisanji culture is so shit and toxic is because they unionized

>>67098178
they also have really well connected friends like maia, miori, shoto, mouse.
vdere style walk out when? didn't jp try to unionize for better treatment at some point?

>>67050739
>1.
Coolstory anon
>2.
NLRB my guy, exists for a reason
>3.
False, most business owners are not that intelligent, also it doesn't matter if you file papers against them first
>4.
That's called workplace harassment and highly illegal, sue for cash payout
>5.
Follow union rulebook and you're untouchable
t. Unionized labor

>>67042704
Nigga I'm unionized

>>66922776
well the vtubers should unionize and force things to be fixed! and they'd all be replaced by the thousands of hungry indies.

>>66851893
WARNING:
THIS USER IS A PINKERTON JEW
HE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO UNIONIZE AND UNDERSTAND YOUR RIGHTS AS A WORKER
IT IS NOT A FIREABLE OFFENSE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR WAGES. COMPANIES WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK THAT SO THAT THEY CAN ABUSE WORKERS BY OBSCURING HOW MUCH EACH WORKER IN A DEPARTMENT MAKES
KILL ALL PINKERTONS ON SIGHT

>>66495666
Interestingly enough, during the whole chinkout kerfuffle, a segment of the Holo audience
>mostly the pronoun alphabet crowd that would eventually slide on the unity to homobeggar to holoan pipeline
pushed the idea that “vtubers should unionize”.
It’s funny as fuck to see the example #170 of an union fucking their members and signing away their rights AGAINST their will and without even consulting, and doing so with the full authority the union status gives them.

>>66337488
Lazy italians tried to unionize so we shipped their jobs to the third world

>>66120239
Contractors can't unionize. Even if they could, how many would be in the union anyway? Gura couldn't care less she's settled for life. Mumei is so comfortable that she can take a month long hiatus. Neporissa is a recent nepohire, Biboo and Shiori won't fight management yet since they gotta settle in, Fauna doesn't care. The other EN girls are Canadians or in Japan where worker rights don't exist.

>>66120239
>why haven't you considered unionizing your work place to prevent your management from fucking you, Anon?
Nijisanji literally did that with the whole Niji-resitance thing and the only thing that came out of it was clique favoritism since management realized that they only needed to please the heads.

>>66120239
No one will ever want to unionize if you connect it to fucking Stalin. I guess that's the point here.

I lost my job because I refused to get COVID shot, and I was the only person in that company to do so, so there was no one I could unionize with anyway.

>>66120239
Unionizing is gay and not in a good way, so fuck off

why haven't you considered unionizing your work place to prevent your management from fucking you, Anon?

>>66098906
There's a thin line between shitposting and shitting on the company, I agree. The 2% thing is entirely fabricated BECAUSE OF MYSTA though, and it's management's own fault that it continues to perpetuate because they A) didn't tardwrangle him and B) don't bother debunking it even though it's so pervasive that it's all people were spamming during Filian's vtuber awards. I agree if your goal in shitting on management is just to bring down the mood then you're a troll, but a lot of the complaints are entirely legitimate and repeating them doesn't make them less true. Much of the criticism IS constructive and is pleading with fans and livers alike to speak up and stop tolerating abuse. It may seem like pure negativity to you, but throughout history this is how change happens. People didn't unionize or gain labor rights out of the blue, it often took years of swaying both the public and the workers before conditions were in place to make the plunge into full on strikes and boycotts. I get it, posting on 4chan seems like it's futile, but if shitposters were able to destroy Niji's reputation through posting on 4chan then it should be equally possible to fix its reputation through posting on 4chan. If people stopped spamming le 2% xD and started spamming to give Pomu her home3D, maybe she wouldn't be graduating. 4chan has always been a platform for speaking truths that you aren't allowed to say anywhere else. Simply being able to complain is important in itself even if you're just doing it to vent your own frustrations. No one is required to read it, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to post it. I'd honestly rather get spammed with >168 every time I complain about management than stay silent even if /soc/posting might get more (You)'s.