/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>fire Rushia because a male friend messaged you on stream
>a year later Laplus, Botan, Korone, Pekora, etc. are doing weekly collabs and offcollabs with males and ecelebs and male celebs and Cover doesn't care because they changed their policy when Tempiss debuted
Kinda unfair innit? I genuinely feel bad for Rushia, she didn't deserve this

>>53661585
I don't care too much about what's going on, but holy fuck I love how so many retards went on about how Botan is "professional" and puts boundaries on what to expect with males, and then goes and just does exactly what Laplus does kek

People just gotta learn some girls just don't give a fuck, so not to try and group them into your CGDCT pairings. Also she's gotta find a partner one day, that old hag

Beyond whatever shitty bait thread this is I am seeing a weird shift this year. We went from having only Towa and Matsuri playing 24/7 with males (and the ocasional fubuki collab with holostars) to Cover hiring laplus who is the new bastion of holo male e-celeb dick chasing normification.
In the span of a year we went from that to seeing pekora bring the hypno ojisan, marine with the seiyuus, kanata in that minecraft event (even though I believe it was an honest mistake), korone and botan participating in that SF tourney, Mel interacting with holostars, suggesting nene to play valorant… and in many of these events there were other holos involved (for example Chloe was in that minecraft collab with kanata and I think pekora was there too). I’m a holofag and I honestly don’t condemn any of this but it’s pretty hard to not see there’s some kind of shifting happening.
Since holoX debut it feels like what was extremely rare and limited to 2/30 holos suddenly is on its way to be a normal thing that half the talents do.
It’s too sudden to not think there’s something coming from management to some degree.

>>53644823
You're clueless newfag
>Towa
Towa was a runt of gen 3 after male voice yab until red.ditcucks whiteknighted her into relevancy. Her chat was 100% english at some point
>Botan
Grandmas can collab with males normally because their approach is mature. Same with Aki
>Laplus
You're actually trolling. she just got back after months-long break, after betraying fans by simping for male valorant ecelebs

>>53237825
Laplus can’t stop chasing e-celeb males and homos but she’s a lesbian. Right.

>>53229637
>In Nijisanji personality trumps design, always
You mean baseball and normies events. Otherwise explain Gwelu, Dora, and some random shitters I forgot names but are actually kinda funny
>It's OK when JPs talk to males
No, not really. Towa, Laplus, Matsuri and others never, ever has good ccvs when collab with male Vtubers. You can't have it both way aka "I want to interact with males but at the same time I want the Otaku audience, and 20k ccvs, and no backlash".
>But but but whatabout hypno Ojisan, Jpop males, comedian duo, Hikakin...
Those are the ones that actually rule the Japan multimedia ecosystem. Hololive benefits more when collab with them.
>But but but tournament
Same thing. Those ccvs comes from bored tourist that want to see something new for a change. They don't stick around

>>53217980
Because FPS games like Valorant and Apex are associated with online dating in Japan for some reason and because Nene once played Valo with Towa and Laplus who have a reputation for gaming with males on stream and off stream.

>>53134454
You can just watch the stream friend, it's member only now tho.
I don't really want to comment because it's not really a drama. Just heart to heart talk with her fans. Schizos spin it into many headcannons, like not enough money(even tho she raises entire africa's population of beetles), wanting males collabs cause fps(when you know she friend with towa,laplus,etc).
tldr nene sad some long time fans left.

>>53075028
>Even within hololive only one girl out the 5 girls who play it regularly hasn’t been found out chasing males off stream (if you take into consideration the ones playing a lot of fps is like 1/7).
Who? I only know about Laplus.

Nene is a whore and will collab with males while playing Valorant with Laplus and Towa

>>53036670
Laplus gets it because she's relatively new and there's some virtual tendency of her wanting sit on the fence and that pisses some people off. Towa (and Matsuri, I don't see people shit on her for male collabs anymore? ) already set their niche in stone for the past years and everyone already registered in their consciousness that they just want to collab with males

>>52692313
What off-screen really means is "thing I don't know about"
If I know or suspect about it then suddenly it matters. This is what I got told back with Laplus playing off screen with males.

>>52365615
Then VSPO are not shitting on idol but leeching on the good name of idol and destroying its name at the same time.

Pretty sure the term idol worth nothing if all idol vtuber collabs with males. If Hololive is filled by Laplus, Towa, Matsuri the brand wouldn't be a giant today. For sure.

>>51861971
I'm not a koronesuki but I honestly think it's not excusable as it was in every capacity a male collab. Heck, even one of laplus' bfs was there. Sonic is a grey area and the dude she sang with it's still ok in my book but this one is not.
That being said, I think Korone deserves her fans' trust. Yes, it was a male collab but it is also a sponsored tournament and I think everything she has done until this point talks for her a lot more than any discord call.
Also, in the end the girls talk to males: there are males at the studio, there are male managers, male composers, they probably have male friends too, neighbours, etc. You don't see it on stream but even the kanata acknowledged it (it's not rocket science). Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. In the end all you can do is trust in them. Trust they are not riding the cock carrousel. Hearing kazunoko or shaka on a voice chat doesn't mean she's riding the cock carrousel and not listening to those voices doesn't mean they are not riding it.
I can understand not liking male collabs as I also don't like them, but it's unfair to equalize they being on a discord call with males because of a sponsorship to them going out of their way looking for dicks and barely streaming out of dick lust.

>>51775671
Subaru's the one that started overcompensating her idol cred and openly ignores males. Lui isn't in any position to piss off her few gachikoi, she's like only behind Rushia, Matsuri, and Laplus on sukikira.

Count Pekora's ojisan hypnotist, Marine interviewing male seiyuus, Laplus getting away with her shit and entering a e-celeb rust server, Matsuri doing jokes about recording lewd voicepacks and selling them to the dudes in the same server, Korone singing with a in the past famous anime OPs singer ojisan, Hikakin for some reason come down from being the most popular in YouTube Japan to be an attention whore with his superchats and memberships to multiple Holos.
It's just bit and pieces, a few of them even excusable or acceptable but it's clear when you look at the past 7 months that they start to pile up.
Probably a company strategy. They think they top-out the "no males" demographic, they're trying to change for a more mainstream appeal little by little to not lose the gachis that pay the bills.

>>51696633
The funniest part is that that retard has literally used her not collabing with males as a way to prop her up as the perfect idol while all the other ones are shit, and particularly shat on Pekora, Kanata, Chloe, Botan and Laplus for that Minecraft event they took part in.
I bet he's not feeling very good today.

>>50705130
Hags want to be young and fertile again so they act like energetic zesty pichi pichi girls to attract males like us. And it works.
There's nothing hotter than hags pretending to be youthful fresh girls.

Meanwhile look at the lolis out there like Gura, Shion, Laplus and their energy levels..

>>50650890
This isn't Nijisanji. Laplus stopped streaming because she was too busy having sex with Valorant males.

>>50562543
It's pointless. He wants me to give him her address in tokyo with a copy of the contract binding her rm name with murasaki shion and a porn tape. And even then he will find out something else to just deny everything.
>idolfags
I'm an idolfag but I'm not blind. If I see consistent proof then I'd believe it. I'm not retarded as to defend a proven lazy liar. Don't put me in the same level of cognitive dissonance as that anon.
>>50562484
>I beg to differ.
Good for you. That doesn't change anything.
>What indications do you think she's close to Laplus?
The fact that she called her by her rm name on stream and the fact they were either found out playing valorant together or playing with the same dudes (can't remember which one is right now). They also got covid too close to each other and then got the rest of holomems sick but then again all of this is circunstancial, right?
>I've seen the 'Proof' and it's not nearly as bad as you're painting it.
The proof shows she's been playing with males, the same group of males, off stream instead of streaming, it also shows she's been playing both before and after her streams as shion. It's not that bad if you don't care she hangs out in valorant offpako servers.
It's insane how you have the guts to defend her when I've been watching her gachis removing her oshi mark and full on depressed over this shit. I guess you know more than them. You know more than the nips who always get the info and the proof, mor than the jp gachis, more than the rest of people and all that without speaking a single word of japanese. Quite an special individual.

>>50380267
Tried to watch Koyori play Megaman X, my favorite game and could not stand how boring she is. I've watched other girls play it, like IRyS, Kronii and Airi from phase connect, everyone was more entertaining than Koyori.
HoloX is by far the most shilled gen, yet they're mediocre streamers and singers, Laplus being an exception. Meanwhile EN was left dead in the water by management and had to forge their own success, no 3D, took ages for new costumes and the last straw was debuting the males instead of getting more girls, even when Kiara and Ame have complained about the lack of members for their projects and stream collabs.

>>50114458
Deserves it more than Laplus who hates Hololive and would rather flirt with males and act like a whore than be an idol.

>>50005958
that was in the era before Cover put their foot down about content though
>>50004156
>Subaru
>Okayu
both had RM streaming history
>>49996616
you can see how Laplus is treated for her interactions with males. how do you think she'd be treated if she debuted now?

>>49918300
At least Anycolor picks up someone who can make money or do something of note every once in a while. Cover is 0/12 on their last 12 males but are 6/8 on their last 8 females. (Zeta and Laplus)