/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Laplus collabing with males
Rumao. Remember when she said she will never collab with males? JP really went to shit huh

>>47736506
>Laplus and males
ogey

>turn on laplus
>hear males
uuuuuuuuh laplusfags? Explain?

>>47736048
Males collabing with males is normal. Laplus played with Kobo and Regis anyway.

Laplus collecting easter eggs in Rust servers, acting cute and seducing males.

>Kobo has more viewers than Laplus
this is why you don't collab with males

YABE
LAPLUS PLAYING WITH MALES IN RUST.
PEKORA PLAYING WITH MALES IN MC
UNICORNS AIEEEE HOLOLIVE IDOL PRODUCTION IS DEAD.

>Collabs with stars weekly now
>Laplus forcing herself onto a rust server with males and twitch streamers
>Pekora wants to collab with nijis now
I’m gonna be honest senpais, if this were EN you would be screaming that they’re ruining hololive no matter what reasoning is given

>>47321802
I think that's the EOP cuckmate who stalks everyone who mentions something about laplus that's not what the voices in his head tell him in english, of course.
>>47322089
While that's also true, who in their right mind would send akasupas to a zoomer who has been found out lying about everything? Lied about not wanting the collab with males, about not going to meet up to meet males, about not playing with them, started to do gachikoi service while chasing eceleb dick all around, betrayed her genmates and missed her first full gen live and was found out playing valorant with males both before and after the live, etc.
You have to either hate yourself to oblivion or be ignorant about everything to give money to someone like her.

they're playing with laplus's coach subbing in for chii-chan, they can't have her talking and playing with males in public like that

>>47201909
I don't watch her that much because I'm too commited to my oshi and she streams too much fps with males. Having said that and while I don't like male collabing I've always respected she's very open about it (she even plays off stream with her holo account. She's not hiding it, which shows some degree of honesty) and that she's clearly just a fps sweat: she plays them because she loves them and loves competing and it just happens there are a lot of males playing them competitively (I'm saying this because there are other members who plays them because they want to get male dick while hiding because they want to farm gachikoi, aka laplus).
I've always felt she loves kenzokus and hololive. She's a good girl beyond what schizos spit and shitposting.

>>47118995
Laplus ideal woman is a male. Why is she still larping as a lesbian or yuribaiting when everyone already knows she's thirsty for fps e-celeb males?

>>47092191
>Considering the number of times Hololive has admittedly failed unicorns, I'm just trying to help.
Hololive is unironically the most "unicorn" friendly group in the industry, if by "unicorn", you mean avoids male collabs. For the proper usage of the term, they are still the most likely to be unicorn friendly when compared to the women in other agencies.

For a breakdown:
Matsuri, and Towa regularly collab with with males.
Sora, Suisei, and Fubuki collab with males every once in a while, usually as some sort of promotional event.
Roboco, Azki, Aki, Choco have done one or two male collabs in the past and are not against them.
Subaru and Miko once did a couple male collabs for promotional purposes, but are now against them.

The rest do not collab with males:
Mel
Haachama
Aqua
Shion
Ayame
Mio
Okayu
Korone
Pekora
Noel
Flare
Marine
Kanata
Watame
Luna
Lamy
Botan
Nene
Polka
Laplus
Lui
Koyori
Chloe
Iroha

So for JP, 26/35 members don't collab with males. And only 2/35 collab with them regularly.
For EN, 6/10 members don't collab with males, and for ID, only 1/9 members don't collab with males.

>>46944544
I don't think Laplus has ever been unicorn friendly. If she was ever, that died when it was revealed she was doing stuff with males offstream.

>>46942713
Laplus collab with males?

>>46630206
Chuubas do listen when actual fans that voice their concerns, specially oldfags. Actual anti behavior is placed in the "bad people" box. Like that retard that send a SC to Botan and she returned his money and banned him. There is also holos that participate in events, interviews, shows or even openly admit to be fans of males. As much as antis shitted on Laplus when she returned still talked to the host of the MC event and got him to guide them to the End portal. And don't even get me started with holo like Fubuki that share the stage with Stars or Towa who is friends with make indies. The point is that you don't base your career on the opinion of people that shit on you. Concerned fan > random troll on Twitter, 5ch, matome site etc.

>>46397709
>Count the males
I know Laplus is flat but she is a girl allegedly

>>46322811
>5 yabs
The minecraft event where peko, botan, kanata, laplus and chloe collabed with males.

>>46260949
* FINAL LIKES TALLY OF THE DAY *
>21k: Gura (Hololive)
>14k: Rio (Holostars)
>14k: Pikamee (VOMS)
>14k: Aqua (Hololive)
>13k: Okayu (Hololive)
>12k: Miko (Hololive)
>11k: Laplus (Hololive)
>10k: Watame (Hololive)
>10k: Pekora (Hololive)
>Note: Suisei has her likes number disabled.

Some interesting observations :
1. Gura gets Gold again effortlessly.
2. Rio and Pikamee surprisingly gets joint silver with Aqua but she could get more as she is currently still streaming
3. Fauna again got a higher peak CCV compared to her # of likes which is generally unusual for solo EN streams.
4. Amelia (9k likes) got more likes than Bae (7.8k) and Fauna (7.4k) despite having lesser CCV and lesser stream duration.
5. Laplus has a very high likes to CCV ratio almost similar to ID and EN which is unusual for JP members.
6. Niji JP males have the worst likes to CCV ratio. For eg: Kuzuha and Yashiro got 4.7k and 3.8k likes respectively despite getting 22k+ CCV
6. Sora and Iroha had a MC collab of same length. Sora got more likes than Iroha (~2k more) even though Iroha had way more CCV than Sora (~3.5k more)

>>46257851
* FINAL LIKES TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>21k: Gura (Hololive)
>14k: Rio (Holostars)
>14k: Pikamee (VOMS)
>14k: Aqua (Hololive)
>13k: Okayu (Hololive)
>12k: Miko (Hololive)
>11k: Laplus (Hololive)
>10k: Watame (Hololive)
>10k: Pekora (Hololive)
>Note: Suisei has her likes number disabled.

Some interesting observations :
1. Gura gets Gold again effortlessly.
2. Rio and Pikamee surprisingly gets joint silver with Aqua but she could get more as she is currently still streaming
3. Fauna again got a higher peak CCV compared to her # of likes which is generally unusual for solo EN streams.
4. Amelia (9k likes) got more likes than Bae (7.8k) and Fauna (7.4k) despite having lesser CCV and lesser stream duration.
5. Laplus has a very high likes to CCV ratio almost similar to ID and EN which is unusual for JP members.
6. Niji JP males have the worst likes to CCV ratio. For eg: Kuzuha and Yashiro got 4.7k and 3.8k likes respectively despite getting 22k+ CCV
6. Sora and Iroha had a MC collab of same length. Sora got more likes than Iroha (~2k more) even though Iroha had way more CCV than Sora (~3.5k more)

>>46176122
No you absolute fucking retard.
KSon has a good heart but she's fucking retarded and making all the wrong conclusions about the state of the industry.
Here's her mindset -
> All chuuba types should flourish, any person should be able to get into VTubing and do whatever activities they want without getting shit on for it.
> Fans are also free to make decisions to support whoever they want, and should not be pressured into liking things that may not be good for the talents themselves.
It's a perfectly fine thing to want.

The "problem" she is talking about is the following -
> Audiences are gravitating more towards "clean" and "corporate" VTubers, and not giving a chance to those who are trying to push the limits of the medium (like she did as Coco).
This is honestly a legitimate complaint, VTubing used to have all sorts of different styles, gaming, live streaming, pre-recorded content, absolute kayfabe, no kayfabe, and all sorts of in-betweens as the hobby was developing. I'd argue it's still the same in the JP sphere, even if the range of activities has narrowed down (Laplus being unable to transition into pre-recorded content completely because the rest of the company relies on live-streaming interactions with each other being the best example).
She addresses the EN sphere because this "gravitation" that she's talking about is only happening in the EN sphere. She specifically calls out the normalization of calling VShojo girls as "whores", which is fine when doing it /here/ but seems to have spread outside and normalized in normie spaces as well.

But the problem is, she blames the fucking FANS for it, because they apparently shit on people who support non-holo chuubas (by calling them cucks? idk).
At the same time reiterating that fans should are free to choose who they can support, which is a contradiction. She also paints the fringe unicornfags who shit up threads here, but get zero traction outside of /here/ as the "majority fanbase" in her arguments, despite them still - to this day - being only a minority. She also fails to address outsiders who attack decent VTubers and harass them into retirement (despite this happening to someone who should be her friend) which is pure hypocrisy.

What she fails to realize is, this is a DIRECT RESULT of the VTuber side failing their fucking audience. VTubing is supposed to be all about being "fun" and "drama free" which is what KSon also wants. But outside of Hololive, who else provides this experience? Every other fucking corpo, from Kawaii to Prism to Phase to VShojo to NijiEN, every single fucking one of them has had yabs after yabs after yabs so continuously... meanwhile the only complaint that can be musted for Hololive EN is that they don't stream as much. Wow wee. What huuuge drama.
In addition, despite the label of "Talent Freedom" she tries to promote, every single fucking VTuber that adopts this slogan WITHOUT EXCEPTION is someone that just leans into being a whore on stream. She talks about the type of girl that's supposedly "enslaved" (again, an exaggeration borne out of her experience with Mirai Akari that she projects into the rest of the fucking industry for no reason) and asks the audience "is that fun to watch? she wouldn't even be human at that point".
She asks this to an audience that has seen the opposite end of the spectrum. Out of all those indies, small corpos, and THOUSANDS of VTubers that have come out in the past 2 years since the boom started, there's maybe 10 of them that are doing something actually creative with the medium. And 50% of those are just a novel type of "model", like the orc dude or the spider lady.

The other problem she addresses is that "seeing males on stream alone shouldn't be a yab", and that's completely reasonable... IF YOU SET THOSE EXPECTATIONS DURING DEBUT! (see: Bae)
ID3 has completely avoided the "unicorn" problem by simply stating on debut that they wanted to collab with the holostars as well, or they wanted to collab with "both male and female youtubers" (pretty much a corpo script if you ask me). Kaela has some gachis, but they will never be as retarded as the unicorns, because she made her position absolutely fucking clear on debut. If there's a male collab, they'll just sigh and skip it.
Or, if you feel like you want to change content to include male collabs, then announce it to your audience and just do it. Sure you might get shit on for a while, but that eventually goes away, and your new audience will like what you do more (don't complain if your income nosedives though, that's just the audience making their decision).
The supposed "slave company" girl Kronii has done it. She got shit for it (mostly due to her flip flopping and assorted retardation) but she came out of that with most of her audience still intact. Ame - another "slave company" girl - did it despite having the most gosling fanbase on the EN side of VTubing, and continues to retain most of her audience, even some goslings.

>>46130027
hololive mogged, kanata menhera, pekora direct speaking with males, laplus drooling for one of the males, Botan laughing, chloe cute

>Pekora
>Botan
>Chloe
>Laplus
>Kanata

All interacted with males on stream today....

Is there any unicorn-friendly vtubers left in Hololive?

>>45704004
Anon, this is a literal nothingburger if she didn't read 5ch. Kanata's worst enemy is herself. People worried more about Laplus' motion sickness than Kanata collabing with males.