/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5990916
I used to work in a shop that repairs speakers (re-surrounding, replacing cones, coils, etc).

That surround shape looks unusual, I'm not sure you'll have much luck finding replacements… But if you can find replacements, though, then taking the old one off can be as easy as brushing MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) on the old surround where it meets the cone. Try not to let it run down the cone itself because it can leave a 'water stain.' Let it sit for a few minutes, and then try to peel. It should take very little force; if you find yourself exerting force you should apply another layer of MEK. Do it in a well ventilated area and remember that MEK vapor is heavier than air.

I like putting a speaker on a platter/turntable once the glue is dissolved, and using a dull butter knife to peel it.

An adhesive like rubber cement should be fine to hold it back together afterwards; try to keep pressure on it while it dries.

>>5990920
AG's are fine. They just aren't THAT much of an upgrade and they can have a different feel than some other phosphor patterns.

>>5990684
>>5990690
Hi there, you summoned me?
I'm actually pretty surprised that I'm not alone about the AG monitors anymore, but I'm pretty sure any '''fame''' evaporated around four years ago or so.

My posts (IIRC):
>>5986805
>>5986812
>>5986879
>>5987974 (yeah I was the idiot who hadn't noticed wii subsampling)
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>>5988434 (end of that stupidity)
>>5988594
>>5989584
>>5990106
>>5990657
>>5990671

BTW, notice how I'm still one of only TWO people in this thread who's actually posted a picture of their CRT, two days into the thread.
I am still opinionated, but did _not_ write any of these because I've decided talking about trinitrons amounts to more pointless shitposting and it's not worth the time. I apologise again for the wii stuff, but now I know better.

I don't hate them, I just would rather use a CRT. Not everyone has the space for (or access to) a CRT to feasibly use one, so scalers still fulfill a purpose and I don't think less of you for using one. It's just another way to play the games.

>>4904296
You sound sane and reasonable to me
The ability to reverse a mod easily is something that I understand the 'aesthetic' appeal of. And I usually just use shielded RCA connector coax cables and BNC adapters at the ends. Probably a tiny impedance mismatch there, but nothing life threatening unless you're daisy-chaining a dozen devices together with them.

>>4903814
>I'm willing to pay shipping to take that mac plus off your hands. How do you want me to contact you? IRC?
That'd work.
still robert_f_kennedy on rizon as of now

>>4903767
I did that on my own systems because I'm not rich and prefer having easily available cables of known high quality
Also the csync from the genesis SCART cable (SCART being unnecessary bullcrap for non-euro people btw) is actually pumped through a sync stripper rather than being used straight from the pure csync line on the DIN connector because the retrogamingcables.uk guy was too dumb to figure out that you need to buffer an open collector signal
>>4903562
thanks, I'd lost that picture

When I modded that SNES mini for someone here, I was sent the SCART cables anon had bought with it and so I used those to test my mod instead of drilling holes. I have no actual problems with SCART beyond how unnecessary it is and how annoying it is to get connectors in the US.
>>4904141
i've done stealth mods before when I actually cared. But since these are my personal consoles I don't intend to ever sell, I'm not too bothered by it.
I also have no intention to ever reverse my mods (Why would I want to reduce functionality? Really, why?).

>>4903301
and that is a very nice looking screen btw, but the raster scan lines are a bit thin for my tastes.
Excellent convergence though.

>>4903301
Ack I've been doxed
I tried so hard to avoid that, especially when I posted videos from my own youtube account years ago.
>>4903293
I could tell without reading your description that that was S-video. It's pretty noticeable difference.
The luma is sharp, but there's a noticeable lack of punch in the colors due to limitations inherent to Y/C as generated by the snes.
The actual quality of your tube is likely just fine, but s-video is what's dragging you down. You don't really need huge numbers of TV lines when the snes really only outputted 256 pixels per line. a 300TVL set would theoretically be plenty good enough.

There's nothing inherently wrong with aperture grilles. I just prefer dot trios for myself.
If you like aperture grilles, go for it by all means. They're still great monitors.

>>4903281
Yeah those are nice sets
But my 20L5 was free, so I'm not going to complain about it (too much). I'm happy with what I have.

>>4903273
Might be a little distracted, though, since I'm taking apart a powerbook G4 to replace the hard disk right now and it's past 2AM

>>4903269
eh, ok, I guess i'll change my nick for a bit. Was just going to have you say the phrase in public chat and then i'd PM you

I changed it to robert_f_kennedy for the time being in rizon, so you can just pm me directly. Don't need to go to any channels or whatever though. I had to back out of them to change my nick and only people registered with nickserv can talk in #3dshacks. Just join the network and /msg me directly

>>4903259
#nesdev's on efnet, #classiccmp's on freenode.
I am on rizon, too, but only #3dshacks and a couple scanlator channels from a group I used to be in.

>>4903256
Shit, I'm really sorry for triple posting, but I posted a lower resolution of the 20L5 pic than the h1390yn pic which isn't really fair.

>>4903252
For comparison, same on my 20L5

I'd expect the 14L5 to look closer to the panasonic picture in terms of "scan line thickness," but with the phosphor style of the 20L5 obviously. Would probably look really good.

If you get the 14L5, take a pic so I can compare!

>>4903246
and my favorite old CRT porn pic

>>4903238
Better pic, I remember that I took that other photo before I actually ironed out the sync problem on my genesis and it has a couple video artifacts as a result

This is more what it looks like

>>4903218
What IBM monitor? Is it monochrome? Is it early IBM? Late IBM?
Also yeah a lot of CRT's have non-black phosphors. That's normal for high grade color phosphors and some kinds of monochrome ones.

This pic is of my Panasonic BT-H1390YN (the JVC BM-H1400PN is exactly the same; at the time, Panasonic (Matsushita corp., really) owned JVC.)

>>4903215
This is my most controversial opinion (or at least it was a couple years ago.) People called me 'contrarian' for saying it.

I like smaller monitors with less pronounced black lines between the scan lines. The 20L5 is a bit big for my tastes (at least for 240p), but it's still excellent for everything else.

If you want multiscan, the *L5 series are very good. The only thing I know of that exists that doesn't work is 24khz. That's used by some arcade gear and the Sharp X68000 in some video modes.
I _think_ the Sony GVM-2020 works with 24khz, plus 15.6 and 31khz (which the L5's can do). However, those use (IIRC) P-22 phosphors (less accurate but brighter), are older, and appear to be harder to come by.

I do like playing 480p games on my 20L5, but at 20" the scan lines are too narrow and the black areas between them too big for my tastes unless I'm far away from the screen.

The Commodore monitors are pretty good, too, or at least mine is. Some of them support multiple scan modes. Hard to find though. These are also P-22 usually. Maybe always.

If you _don't_ need multiscan, I absolutely love my Panasonic BT-H1390YN for 240p RGB gaming. A 14L5 looks like it'd be really nice for that kind of thing, based on old photos that Kya (I think?) posted a couple years ago. I think it's primarily because they're smaller screens, and the scan lines (the illuminated areas, not the black zones between them) are larger, so the black lines are narrower and less noticeable but still present. That said I love the tri-dot somewhat "fuzzy" feel. It's still really sharp, so I don't think fuzzy's really a good word.

Pic is of my 20L5 in 240p

>>4903207
(and while I have no boot media for the mac plus, I am sure it would boot if booted from a SCSI drive, and have no reason to believe the floppy drive is bad but it's a possibility.)

>>4903195
In case it got missed:
the thing in the big antistatic bag under the GPU card is a "Black Knight" williams pinball logic board, from the first pinball game with a two level playing field.
It worked when I pulled it from a pinball machine a couple years ago (the owner refurbished it by replacing all the PCB's with new reproductions for future-proofing)
>>4903198
Photo please.
Does it happen with any other (non genesis/mega drive) systems? Is your sync line connected? How are you connecting it? Is there an inline sync stripper or buffer or anything? Genesis systems can have problem with their csync signals if used directly because they are output from open collector transistors. They need buffering by IC's to work reliably.
A lot of SCART cables (which I don't use personally) avoid this mess by just stripping the sync signal from composite video with an LM1881. Last I knew, that's what the "retrogamingcables.uk" site did
>>4903198 (again)
I can mail stuff to you. I checked the shipping cost on the mac plus and it looks like it's $20-30 to ship USPS to new york state. I doubt the big fat trinitron would be more than $50 or $60.
I can tell you that it all works except the C64's. I can also make videos if you want evidence.

>>4903185
(also some people on those IRC channels can vouch for me. I did a Genesis VA7 S-video mod and mega amp mod for someone on #nesdev and have been a regular there for a number of years.)

I really don't want to recycle this stuff, so please reach out if you want something. It'll be free besides shipping if you don't want to do pickup. I swear I'm a nice enough guy in person though.

Pic: reminder of available stuff if anyone missed it

>>4903176
Ask Kya, I'm pretty trustworthy. Some here don't like me, but I did an RGB mod for a SNES mini for an anon on here once so it's not exactly my first rodeo.

Also, if you're on IRC, I'm sometimes on #nesdev and #classiccmp under a different handle. If you want to take that route, let me know and I'll give you a 'shibboleth' phrase to say

>>4903156
Thanks. I like it a lot.
I just wish it was a two-channel one.

It IS also a vectorscope though, which is nice.

My remaining collection after the "I have too much crap" purge
Plus a PVM-1944Q in a different room