/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5675260]

It's actually preposterous to think that people actually beat this series on hardware back in the day. I know it was made for hardcore jrpg fans, but Jesus. I tried, but sucuumbed to save states scumming at the very end.
Also
>meeting God at the center of the universe
>insane nanotech story
Anybody else played the Cyber Knight games?

[Anonymous No.5675263]

I don't have time for jrpg shit and I definitely don't have time for hardcoar jrpg shit. Wizardry 4 Return of Werdna fans think they are being cool by posting how unreasonable that game was but it just makes it sound like a big fruitless chore.

[Anonymous No.5675382]

It's one of the only three hucards I have
Picked it up a while ago, about time I started it
Wish me luck

[Anonymous No.5676672]

>>5675263
I'd say Cyber Knight is certainly less difficult or insane than Wizardry IV, it's more like making an arduous climb up a steep mountain with checkpoints, whereas Wizardry IV is like solving the world's biggest 5D Rubick's Cube. I can't blame you either way, I'm not sure if Cyber Knight I and II are actually worth completing other than for autist bragging rights, but the theme and the story kept me motivated, and they have some genuinely insane plot points that seem like they could have been lifted from Asimov Science Fiction. Plus you get a team of actual adults working a lightspeed space ship you can freely navigate around a solar system and they can deploy in customizable power armor. The battle system is pretty good too. All of that sweetened the deal enough for me to see both to their conclusion.

>>5675382
I'm not sure what the differences are, but I beat the SFC titles.

[Anonymous No.5676693]

what makes it hard?

[Anonymous No.5676718]

>>5676693
Ever played Phantasy Star II? The dungeons start simple In CK, but eventually they reach the point where they meet and exceed the madness of PSII, and then on top of that they're pressuring you on resource management through challenging random encounters. Here's an example from the first game, it's certainly the hardest one, it has multiple entrances and eventually leads to a single correct path with the item you seek. According to The Internet, these games were made intentionally to challenge hardcore gamers of its era, but they're well-designed and tend to be fair even if they are relentless. You get abilities to mitigate random encounters, but even at the end and with grinding you have to perform virtually flawless tactical moves on the final boss just to beat it. That's where I gave up and turned to save scumming.

[Anonymous No.5676728]

>>5676718
I see, sounds interesting

[Anonymous No.5676746]

>>5676718
>>5676728
Dammit, I forgot the map

[Anonymous No.5676865]

>>5676718
On paper it sounds cool but I'm reminded of what a chore phantasy star ii was to play. Is it faster paced at least or do you move like a snail?

[Anonymous No.5677263]

>>5676718
Sounds like a shitty game that isn't worth anyones time. Just like PSII.

[Anonymous No.5677347]

>>5675260
I did it. It's fun as heck and I love the planetary exploration aspect. Going to a buncha worlds before finding where you actually needed to go is just part of the deal. Amused I didn't figure out what the barriers did or you could use them til the final boss of 1 where it's a neccessity. 2 is just a good game that fixes the majority of 1's issues and I'd reccomend it for all. And yeah, Cyber Knight is no more obtuse than PS1 or 2.

[Funcoland Clown No.5677412]

Sounds good. I may have to give it a spin after the Fiesta.

>>5675382
War of the Dead was fucking great

[Anonymous No.5677896]

>>5676672
I keep saying Japanese comments that the SFC port of 1 sucks compared to the original but not much detail on why

[Anonymous No.5678367]

>>5677896
>saying
*seeing

[Anonymous No.5678874]

>>5676865
I recall the overworld and dungeon movement being fine, and being able to cancel random encounters, but the battles might trip you up since they're tactical grid. I'd bring fast forward just in case.
>>5677347
I completely agree, but since CK2's story is a direct continuation of the first one I ended up playing both back to back. Basically, I'm not sure what the difference is between the SFC port of CK1 and PCE original, but I imagine that, in regards to the sequel, CK2 holds up very well regardless of the platform.

[Anonymous No.5679452]

The premise of 2 is really interesting in that all the alien technology your team brings back ends up getting stolen and leaked everywhere destabilizing the government of a solar system and you actually end up going commando to support revolutionaries and shit

rly wish i had finished it

[Anonymous No.5680007]

damn ck2 looks cool. i've been missing out.
spent a few minutes with each and agreeing with others that 2 seems a ton better than 1. encounter rate isn't as ridiculously high, an attack on a defeated enemy is redirected to another enemy instead of nothing happening, there's an auto-battle option, and inactive party members get half experience from missions instead of none. also, when in the ship, you can jump anywhere, not just one square at a time (at least that's how it is at the start). there are other qol improvements too.

are some modules only combat and others only support? at the start, titan and cyber are in both lists (and can be used as both simultaneously), but the others are only in one.

i feel like there's going to be a lot of trial and error, especially with damage types as the game progresses. fiddled a bit and already learned stuff like shields do indeed add damage to melee attacks (although not as much as dual-wielding) and that the ai seems to be more conservative with options (and fields, i assume) in semi-auto than in full-auto (if they're enabled).

>>5678874
>cancel random encounters
how?

[Anonymous No.5680246]

>>5677896
>>5678367
-The four-stat growth system (combat, medical, science, mechanical) was replaced with a typical XP/level system
-Character designs were changed to new art

...are the two major-sounding changes on the Wikipedia page that might piss people off I guess.

[Anonymous ~ No.5680676]

>>5675260
I played the SNES version a bit. Some of the graphics were quite impressive for a PC Engine port. I kinda just ignored the main plot and tried messing around ,visiting different places for the heck of it. Never got back to playing the game because I got distracted by some GOG games I bought at the same time or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgRVGSB1ilw

[Anonymous No.5681264]

>>5680007
Yeah, I like in 2 your base has a little communications area where npcs are all 'readings came in on an attack at x' 'some dude needs saving on y' so you can go back there for a refresh on any of the current missions. In 1 a lot of this is on the trader planet but other bits are all over the place so it helps to keep a notepad document of everything important you hear.

[5675382 No.5682401]

All right I got some spare time, time to start this fucker up

[5675382 No.5682414]

>sound defaults to mono
Good thing I checked the settings
I think this is the first time I've seen a console game default to mono (that had the option to change it at all, not counting mono-only systems obv))

[5675382 No.5682456]

>immediately starts asking for stat-allocation
welp time to read the manual

[5675382 No.5682495]

If you don't enter anything for the main character name, it gives you a silly sounding random name like "Pochu" or "Geppy" or "Miyatan"

[Anonymous No.5682501]

In the PCE version the save password's you can generate (if not using Duo/Ten no Koe save hardware) are encrypted with your character name so the name and password have to match (I think Castlevania III was like that too?)

[5675382 No.5682551]

only 2 women for 4 men
we're gonna have to share

[Anonymous No.5682578]

>>5682551
2 women = 6 holes
we'll be OK

[5675382 No.5682638]

>>5682456
>>5682551
>>5682578
Okay it's a three-person party, so I'm going balance my stats to work with Kiri and Nijiina so I can take them with me and leave the other three men on the ship to entertain each other with their holes

[5675382 No.5682659]

opening is reasonably cool for a non-CD game

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no kanji font
kana all day erry day

[5675382 No.5682671]

ok time to roll

[5675382 No.5682676]

>>5682671
well some kanji for menus I guess

[5675382 No.5682817]

visitin' planets

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talkin' to peeps

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talkin' to peeps vertically

[5675382 No.5682829]

the module (power suit) system and weapons stuff seems cool
you start out with a lot of options; not sure what's useful or what yet

[5675382 No.5682834]

It's one of those games where you talk to people just by touching them so you gotta dodge around them if you don't want to get pulled into a text box when you're just trying to go somewhere

[5675382 No.5682842]

The combat system is kinda interesting (positioning, weapon switching for range limitations, regular weapons and ammo-based weapons (basically your high-damage spells))

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[5675382 No.5682853]

sexy doctor wakes you in a sexy voice when you load a saved game

[5675382 No.5682854]

If you use the heal-everybody command in the medical room when no one's hurt she says lovesickness is outside of her job description

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[5675382 No.5682863]

The people you pick for your party participate in conversation/comment on what's going on, so probably (?) it's one of those games where you get different lines depending on who you bring with you.
When you're on the ship doing the planet-scanning from orbit, all 6 of the main combat characters get to say things.

[5675382 No.5682867]

Got a starmap from the professor at the university; maybe can jump to other planets soon after we get the stuff for repairs first

[5675382 No.5682868]

>>5682867

[5675382 No.5682870]

The president of planet Farworld wants us to save their city from kidnapper robots so me and the girls are off to take care of the problem

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First dungeon was pretty short but posts like >>5675260 and >>5676718 have me scared for the future
I just went in and blew up the computer without finding any robots you can talk to so don't know why they were kidnapping people.
Anyway back to visit the president agan.
Now the women in town are asking for my autograph and suggesting I stay to live on this planet and come visit them.
It's funny how you stay in your power suit the whole time even inside buildings talking to people.

[5675382 No.5682979]

Still on Farworld, going to the remains of the old colony ship that crashed here 250 years ago to look for parts

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[Anonymous No.5682998]

Fuck it's telling me I gotta bring the mechanic guy Wind here, can't spend the whole game with just my girlfriends
Was wondering if this was going to be a thing

[5675382 No.5683004]

at leas there's no enemies in this place

[5675382 No.5683058]

ok ship is partially fixed, now this star system is our playground

[5675382 No.5683072]

Oh shit wait, it's not just S-Jump, L-Jump is working too
Can to go any adjacent star system
Can't jump diagonally or into non-star system space so can't leave the upper-right corner of the map but that's still 6 systems to explore

[5675382 No.5683076]

whoooooooooosh

[5675382 No.5683082]

Wonder if I can land on a high-temperature planet with no atmosphere next to a star
We do have power suits

[5675382 No.5683085]

nope no landing
so this feels a little like Star Control 2 except there it was the gas giants you couldn't land on

[5675382 No.5683098]

ok so there's actually only one landable planet in the entire first system
my impression of how big this game is dropped a little
on to the next system!

[5675382 No.5683119]

alright, ancient dead domed cities and artificial micro-blackholes detected, this is more like it

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And...frogs?
But you just walk right through them and nothing happens

[5675382 No.5683129]

oh robots
but all they say is beep

[5675382 No.5683160]

Tried bringing the scientist guy and mechanic guy but they were useless
Gave up on frogs and robots for now and flew to another star system and found the planet of the jigglypuffs

[5675382 No.5683163]

Jigglypuffs are merchants so they speak Kansai-ben

[5675382 No.5683193]

This game likes to open conversation text windows in all sorts of locations around the screen

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Got a few leads from the jigglypuffs to keep me busy for a while

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ok got diagonal jumping now

[Anonymous No.5683350]

This looks interesting. A shame it never got brought over.

[Anonymous No.5683374]

>>5683350
The SFC port has a translation at least

[5675382 No.5683502]

Went to the caveman planet
They're being harassed by the same kidnapper robots as the people on Farworld
Now we're calling the robots "berserkers"
The robots dissect lifeforms and imitate their structure

[5675382 No.5683503]

gotta rescue the cavepeople

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Now the cavepeople trust us and gave us the wooden carving (wood replica of the Europa colony spaceship the Farworld people came from Earth on) that one jigglypuff wanted.
The cavepeople are descendants of some of the same Earthlings who crashed on Farworld and set off from there in a smaller ship and ended up on this other world a couple hundred years ago
They went from spaceship travelers to cavepeople-speak in 200 years
Now we can go trade the carving to the jigglypuff for a universal translator which might let us talk to robots >>5683129 or maybe we need to go somewhere else

[5675382 No.5683515]

gotta remember to bring dead enemy parts to the lab to analyze for developing new equipment and upgrades

[Anonymous ~ No.5685083]

>>5683515
>bring dead enemy parts to the lab to analyze for developing new equipment and upgrades

WTF. Is this X-COM?!?

[Anonymous No.5685434]

Only even took a few screens during 2. Like this dumb feminist bitch.

[Anonymous No.5685435]

Also, /pol/.

[Anonymous No.5685437]

Also 4chan in planet form.

[Anonymous No.5685680]

>>5685083

About a year before or after iirc.

[Anonymous No.5686012]

Once you've played the games, be sure to check out the novels!

[Anonymous ~ No.5686484]

>>5686012
you mean translations never?

[Anonymous No.5686623]

Holy shit, they really weren't kidding. The PCE game looks all sorts of better compared to the SFC port.

[Anonymous No.5687665]

>>5686484
/vr/ told me if it something's not translated it must be because it's not any good

[Anonymous No.5688517]

>>5686012

Gotta hand it to Japan, they took a simple novel by Robert Heinlein and ran with it...REALLY ran with it.

[Anonymous No.5689453]

>>5678874
>cancel random encounters
>>5680007
Does that just mean "run"?

[5675382 No.5690978]

Gotta set the message speed and sound mode every time I start this game up
Would be nice if they included that in the save data but I guess they were struggling with balancing save data feature parity with the password save option (the password already lacks equipment slot data, whereas backup memory saves that)

[Anonymous No.5690991]

>>5686623
>>5683350
Looks like someone was working on translating the PCE version at some point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVnsNSLQ_Hs

[5675382 No.5691014]

Universal translator worked as expected on the robot and apparently the frogs are hibernating after having had trouble with killer robots (berserkers) attacking the planet
These robots seem to be causing trouble for everybody
Now I need data to make a black globe to regain control of the micro-blackhole to power the artificial sun to thaw the planet to wake the frogs

[5675382 No.5691039]

found the planet of the whales and went diving
no petunias yet
I'm not here for the black hole stuff but a jigglypuff said she'd tell me about treasure if I recorded the song of the whale people

[5675382 No.5691073]

The whales won't sing their song because they're being hunted to extinction by invaders from space
There's another berserker robot base here
Presumably these ones are made in Japan

[Anonymous No.5691097]

>>5691014
Are they fluoride powered gay frogs?

[Anonymous No.5691114]

>>5691097
They might have been human before the 6G micro-blackhole was installed in their city

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Learned about a new berserker weapon that crashed on the 2nd planet in the Melinks system
and destroyed the core of the Japanese robot base

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the whales are happy now, so we can record their happy song

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>>5691225
I mean we destroyed the core, not that their own weapon did; that's on a different planet

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Went back to the jigglypuff who wanted to hear the whale song

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And she tells us the Mentana creator-god alien guys who can grant wishes can be contacted via a machine, the secret of which is written on 4 monuments on 4 different planets.
I remember seeing 2 monuments, gotta go back and find those. I think one was destroyed tho.
No leads on black hole parts for thawing frogs yet but still lots of star systems I haven't explored.
I think I may need to start keeping notes on what's where like in Star Control 2

[5675382 No.5691978]

Went to the 2nd planet in Melinks (>>5691225) which turned out the be a planet of sulfur-eating scorpions. Nice folks, tho.

[5675382 No.5691979]

The berserker ship looks like a Zentraedi ship from Macross

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Inside the ship was a garbled berserker recording about their "queen" and the weapon the other recording (>>5691225) talked about, which is a melee weapon 5 times stronger than any regular weapon I currently have and even stronger than firing off the maximum number of consumable missiles at once. It feels like the sort of thing you'd get to use temporarily before turning in for a quest and it's called the Nega-Ball so I figured maybe it's related to the Black Globe needed for the micro-blackhole but the robot on the frog planet didn't say anything about it when I went there.

[5675382 No.5691992]

That left me without any leads so I explored a couple of systems with no landable planets and then went back to the jigglypuffs to see if they had anything new to say. One of them's working on an "amazing weapon," another is annoyed by pirates and wants us to destroy their base but doesn't know where it is, and another was talking about his son out treasure hunting on a planet in the FHD154 system so we went there and picked up a jigglypuff distress signal and berserker communications

[5675382 No.5691994]

The berserkers are here looking for a "black cube"

[5675382 No.5691996]

In the berserker ship on this planet we got a recording talking about them looking for the same 4 Mentana monuments we are, one of which is on the pirate base planet so now we have that info

[Anonymous No.5692315]

This sort of LP makes me want to pick up Japanese and abandon being an EOP.

Are the dungeons getting obscene for you yet?

[5675382 No.5693654]

>>5692315
So far the dungeons have only been one floor and simple enough to keep track of in my head

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After getting rid of the berserkers in FHD154, we kept poking around until we found the black cube the berserkers were looking for. Their recording had said they couldn't find it and thought perhaps it had already been taken. Suckers.

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Left FHD154 and headed for the Tarkings system to find the pirate base planet and the third monument

[5675382 No.5694659]

Different landing sequence here with us flying in dodging lasers instead of the usual cockpit view

[5675382 No.5694667]

>>5694659

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These pirates seem kinda weak
Maybe I've just mastered the battle system

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Oh shit, stairs down to a second level (>>5693654 >>5692315)
That's new

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Recording the monument scribbles with my video camera

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So these pirates also ended up here at the center of the galaxy due to a mis-jump 10 years ago, just like us more recently, and just like the humans on Farworld 250 years ago (if I'm remember their story right)
Anyway we kill the pirate king and shut down the base, then head back to the jigglypuff who wanted the pirates gone

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The jigglypuff gave us the final jump drive as a reward for shutting down the pirate base, and now we can jump like five sectors at a time instead of one, which is more convenient and also lets us access the final area in the left/bottom left of the map that was cut off due to nothing being adjacent to them.
The jump drive jigglypuff suggested trying out our new drive to go to the Serid system where we'll find the Godig people who are also fighting berserker robots and could be good allies

[5675382 No.5694706]

>>5694702
>gave us the final jump drive
Well not a whole drive, just a generator for the drive we already have

[Anonymous No.5695094]

Excellent stuff, LP anon. I've been keeping up with your playthrough, looking forward to seeing your reaction to the ending.

[5675382 No.5696786]

Located the planet of the Godicks

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The godick city's in the middle of a big fight with berserkers so I'm taking the girls and heading in

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Some of the godicks were annoyed that we showed up wearing powered suits that look like killer robots in the middle of their battle against an army of killer robots

[5675382 No.5696872]

New, stronger berserkers here

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Our ship's computer MICA that usually gives combat advice on enemy weaknesses and such says "I don't know how to fight these..."

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These guys are actually kind of strong

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Well they were strong but we didn't have fight very many because we wandered into one of the three enemy domes and took out the boss that's right inside and apparently that shut everything down and the other two domes didn't matter. Not sure what would have happened if we'd gone into one of the others first.

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The commander is happy with us now, but still unhappy that the people of the 6th planet of the Zander system refused their request for assistance against the berserkers

[5675382 No.5696883]

Developed a decently powerful sonic weapon (counts as impact-type) from robot corpses so gonna replace my weaker ranged impact weapons with that. Although it being two-handed means I'll have to do more mid-battle weapon-switching on my main melee guy rather than his current one-hand ranged + one hand melee setup.

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Alright were off to the 6th planet in Zander, called Garice

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Wait a minute, there's frogs here!

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The frogs hate fighting and say the best thing in life is boredom

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One of the frogs told us about a splinter group that got tired of being bored and set off to find a new place to live. We told him how we met those guys and their artificial sun is broken and he gave us the black globe data so we can go fix their mini-blackhole powered sun and now here we are back at the original frog robot

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With the sun turned back on, it's springtime in New Frogland! (Before: >>5683124)

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The frog elder says there's a planet called Slauley in the Yon system that's covered in an intelligent organic soup that we can communicate with and it should know the truth about the Mentana.
So we'll head there next

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Another frog there refused our request for them to fight the berserkers with us saying they don't do the fighting thing, but he did use the black globe tech to make a new field for us that stops 100% of laser, beam, and heat damage (only other damage type is impact).

I haven't really been using fields at all so far.
They're basically single-use (lasts for the duration of the battle, I think) defensive buff spells that you can stock up to 4 of per character (restock on the ship). But nothing's done enough damage or lived long enough to feel an actual need for them so far. (Instead I just used the consumable ranged impact-damage items (missiles/greands/napalm/acid) to obliterate bosses since you can fire entire volleys at once.)
I haven't lost a fight yet, although in >>5696875 for the first time I had two people low. (There's two HP numbers per character there, one for the pilot's HP and one for the module (power suit).)
Maybe fields are about to start becoming necessary, although this new black globe field just obsoleted the laser- and plasma-specific fields I never used, which feels like they expected me to have been using them prior to this point.

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>>5696930
>greands
*grenades

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We yelled at the soup planet from orbit and it raised an island with a building on it up for us to land on

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Mother Soup appeared as a woman but said she could transform parts of the planet to look like anything. She then spent some time playing around in the character creator to change herself into a robot, a frog, a caveman, etc. to show off.

She dumps some info on us about the Mentana: they're basically those guys in Star Trek who made life on planets throughout the galaxy, only the Mentana weren't obsessed with making everything humanoid. They are the intelligent supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy.
Mouther Soup says we need a G-wave transceiver to communicate with them and that the frogs in the Albion system know how to make it.

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I went ahead and checked with the frogs but we already knew we needed all 4 monuments and the black cube so nothing new here.

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Went to the jigglypuffs (these guys are called "Traders" btw which is why the screenshot in >>5680246 uses that word, messy machine translation aside) to check on the one who'd previously been talking about working on a weapon, and she says she'll trade it to us for the tusk of a pyroworm from planet Quaji in the Olibo system.

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Surprisingly, the pyroworm lives on a fire planet.

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These guys were immune to all damage except one, think it was plasma? I forget which but anyway, I did end up using the black globe field (>>5696930) to stop them from being able to hurt us while we poked around with different damage types.

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The pyroworm
So far this game hasn't had any huge-sized enemies, which I guess considering the the SRPG-ish position-based system makes sense.

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Went back to the arms dealer jigglypuff and traded the pyroworm tusk for the disintegrator

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So, this disintegrator weapon is an "option" type weapon, which are the limited-ammo (restockable on the ship) high-damage weapons. (>>5682842 >>5696930)
It only gets one shot per restock (per weapon slot; you can carry as many as you have M or larger slots on your module) but with a damage output of 250 it's higher than the preivious highest max damage output, which was the medium missile launcher at 50 x 4 (you can launch all 4 at once).

It's not a massive jump in damage but still a decent upgrade. More interestingly, this is a laser, making it the first Option weapon that's a damage type other than impact.

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Now back to the monument search.
We already got the list of planets for those from the recording in >>5691996
This'll be the "last" one, where the monument is said to be deep underground.
I say "last" because the second one (on the caveman planet >>5683502) was destroyed so I haven't actually recorded the data from that one. Have to figure that out later.

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There's like seven different caves here

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But all but one of them are small empty caves that look like this

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That's a lot of staircases
We seems to be getting into Phantasy Star 2 territory now
No teleporter mazes yet though
Actually this game so far hasn't had any concept of teleportation in gameplay or story (no dungeon exit spells)

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Fighting the locals who work for the berserkers

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Right so, suddenly we're getting our asses handed to us

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I tried have Nijiina bring me back from the dead but she's too dead to do it

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When you go back to the ship with people dead, it takes you immediately to the medical center where the doctor comments, "You died again? I'll hurry with the clone revival."
This is actually my first time characters died (had modules destroyed before but not characters) but I guess they've been through this before on previous adventures.

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After being cloned from backup data we went back outside to make for the cave again and IMMEDIATELY GOT ONE-SHOTTED BY A ROBOT USING THE SAME DISINTEGRATOR WEAPON WE GOT FROM THE JIGGLYPUFFS.
Well it's a different color but same effect/animation anyway. Didn't even make it to the cave entrance.
Looks like I need to start paying attention to using defense fields for certain enemies.

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There's the monument down in the third level of the cave, but I can't get to it from this side. Need to get down here through a different set of staircases.

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>>5698451
>this is a laser, making it the first Option weapon that's a damage type other than impact.
I just realized this is a lie
One of the five power suits, the one called Winner, can equip heat-damage weapons, including a couple of heat-damage Option weapons. I even mentioned them in >>5696930 (napalm & acid) and then forgot about it.

There's probably other mistakes of this nature throughout my posts so you'll have to play it for yourself to learn the reality. The truth is out there.

[Anonymous No.5700126]

>>5675260
So i've only played like 5 minutes of both but is Cyber Knight 2 a remake of 1? They have the same opening

[Anonymous No.5700320]

>>5699309
>the truth is out there
This game really just kind of dumps all of that sort of thing on you all the time, doesn't it?

>>5700126
Nah, Cyber Knight 2 is a direct sequel to 1, but it could be played on its own I imagine, although you'd be missing out on scifi insanity like our LP anon is detailing on his journey

[Anonymous No.5700362]

>>5700320
sweet then I'll put both on my 3DS

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Boss time
The boss fights in this game are actually not all that much different from regular fights. They're somewhat stronger but it's not like Dragon Quest or something where it's an "epic" fight that goes on a long time. If you've got option-weapons and/or fields reserved you can end it pretty quickly.

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Recording the monument writings and headin' home to the ship

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Dissecting the boss robots let us develop an anti-proton beam weapon but...it's exactly the same thing as the plasma canon? Regular ranged (non-option), 2-handed, size L, beam-type damage, of 50
This is the second time getting a "new" weapon design that has exactly the same stats as a previous weapon. Not sure what's up with that. (It's a design, not an individual weapon, so you can already equip multiple of it.) Might be for if you do things in the game in different orders I suppose.

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>>5700320
>This game really just kind of dumps all of that sort of thing on you all the time, doesn't it?
Yeah. "The whole planet is one intelligent creature" isn't too unusual but now we're at "the whole black hole at the center of the Milky Way is an intelligent entity and/or group of entities"

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I'm not sure where to go now
I either need to find the berserker base to get the info from the destroyed second monument, and then after that make the g-wave transceiver to context the Mentana
Or I need to get the monument info first in order to contact the Mentana to ask where the berserker base is
Right now I'm just wandering through space scanning new planets and going back to places I've been in case I missed something or something changed

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Went back to the very first world (Farworld) and talked to the professor at the university, but all he had to say was few more details about some Farworld people ended up in Kugel to become cavemen

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Jumping to every system and planet I haven't been to yet has revealed the planet of the berserkers!

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This place is awfully peaceful for a berserker planet
Has the comfy town music

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So...it's not the beserkers, it's the bersekers ancestors
And these machine lifeforms aren't actually robots, they directly evolved from silicon lifeforms on the 1st planet (Quaji) in the Olibo system.
The machine lifeforms normally don't have any reason to come into conflict or even contact with organic lifeforms but a bug occurred in their program(s) and a new form of life that combined machine and organic life traits was born, the mutant's called berserkers that model themselves after organic life.
Then it tells us the berserkers are beyond their ability to handle to please go kill them all.

...I still don't have the 2nd monument info

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I went back to Quaji (>>5698425 >>5698427) and yeah, there's some talking rocks there, must be silicon lifeforms. But they just babble science terms and don't say anything useful. (One says "Mentana works in mysterious ways")

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Went back to the warrior planet and they say they have a warfleet ready to strike the beserker home base...just as soon as someone tells them where it is. Welcome to my world, pals.
One of the guys here ponders contacting the Mentana to ask where the berserkers are, which is further making me think I'm really supposed to have the 2nd monument info already.

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What I've started doing now is bringing the other characters (scientist & mechanic) around with me to revisit places.
For pretty much the whole game I've only had the two women (soldier & doctor) with me, except the couple of times my player characters says "hmm better bring the mechanic here."
Maybe this'll turn something up.
It's already triggered an additional conversation between the scientist (Shain) and the machine lifeform PR guy, although nothing immediately useful. It just says that the Mentana can open long-range travel gateways and the berserkers want that.

[Anonymous No.5701185]

I played through both Cyber Knight games (SFC versions) last year and thoroughly enjoyed myself. Great sci-fi RPGs.

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Well anons, I'm completely out of ideas. Tried everything I can think of on every location on the map. Gonna have to ask you who've played this already for help.
How do you get the data from the 2nd monument? The destroyed one on the caveman dinosaur planet in the Kuugel system: >>5683502

[Anonymous No.5702925]

>>5702212
It has been awhile since I played, but I remember bringing a different character along to free the cavemen from their force fields that the berserkers trapped them with inside their dome. If you have the right party member, you can step on the corners of the force fields and that character will automatically get to work. I can't remember more than this, or who that character was, for the life of me however. You get a videodisc in that area from a ruined spaceship though, and you have to use it on a crashed ship on another planet (The ship was called the Europa in the fan translated rom I think). Btw, you're likely right about >>5700986, because I remember dealing with the cavemen and the berserkers as one of the first things I did, whereas you're arriving at it now. It seems like the game allows an open-ended approach to solving the monuments at least.

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>>5702925
I freed the cavemen in >>5683503 >>5683504
But I didn't find any videodisc in the ancient crashed human shuttle or the berserker dome

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There's indeed a video deck on the Europa but I've scoured the caveman planet and never found a videodisc

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WTF IT WAS IN THIS CORNER OF THE CAVEMAN SHUTTLE THE ENTIRE TIME
I'VE BEEN WARPING ALL OVER THE GALAXY FOR NOTHING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Bloody hell, finally have the 2nd monument data.
Also this video recording from 250 years ago had a bit of a connection to a 250-year old photo on the Europa.

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I guess this game is too old to have dedicated an entire crashed shuttle area to just decoration. I should have keep poking around until I got something more interesting than characters just saying "everything's wrecked."
Thanks, anon >>5702925

[Anonymous No.5703695]

>>5691073
>>5691225
>>5691227
Whales are going back to being sad
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/07/01/japan-resumes-commercial-whaling-watson-pkg-nr-vpx.cnn

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Now with all the monument data together with the black cube, the frog constructs the G-wave transceiver for us

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We're off to go talk to a black hole

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Apparently I was so excited I couldn't hold the camera

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So, the black hole god Mentana was born along with the galaxy and was really lonely so he made life all over the galaxy to have some friends, including Earth of course

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Mentana gives basically the same explanation about a bug in the machine lifeforms creating the berserkers. We ask if Mentana can send us home to Earth and he says yeah he could open a gate but it doesn't close very soon and the berserkers are waiting for that in order to follow us through.

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The berserkers are hiding out in the ICE-5 dark nebula nearby. We don't need to destroy all of them, just the borg^H^H^H^Hberserker queen and their evolution should "return to the correct path."

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The music when you're on your ship changed.
That's when you know shit is getting real.

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The dark nebula

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The last several times we came here we didn't find anything but now that we've been told there's berserkers here we do a non-slacker job of scanning and find 800 battleships, 2000 smaller ships, and a giant mothership

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Klein makes the astute observation that we can't fight that with just our ship so we jump to Godick to tell them where to send their fleet.
Both the Godicklings and us have interstellar FTL travel but apparently no long-range communications.

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Everybody immediately runs out of the room and the entire city is empty of soldiers

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Godick posts for reference: >>5694702 >>5696786 >>5696789 >>5696869 >>5701073

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The godicklings are going to keep the borg fleet busy while we board the mothership to take out the queen.

It's time!

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I swear I'm not shaking the camera on purpose

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Aaannnd...we're in.

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Back to my usual crew

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>>5703794
>>5703842
>>5703846
>>5703848
Seems my auto-focus point was set off to the right for some reason; must have bumped the controls at some point

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Some wimpy berserkers from earlier in the game here on the first floor

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Wait these guys are new

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I'm just gonna scope out the layout of the first floor and return to the ship to restock and analyze any recovered parts, so I'll blast everything with Option-ammo 250-damage disintegrator lasers

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oh shit, the green guys are immune to laser damage

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Message from the doctor on the ship: "I've got clones fully prepared."
Thanks for the vote of confidence.

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All right I'm gonna swap out most of my 250x1 disintegrators for 50x4 M-missiles

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Lotta staircases in this place, too
I'm surprised the berserkers can use stairs; some of them look like they'd have trouble with that

[Anonymous No.5704149]

>>5703914

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Well that looks like a core.

Overall I think the dungeon complexity for this game was a little overstated. There's a little bit of finding the right staircases to go up and down between levels to get to the right section but it's not like Wizardry or something.
I remember Phantasy Star 2 being more complex than this but it's been almost 30 years since I played that so my memory may be unreliable.

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Borg Queen:
>I am the queen. I am the one who stands at the peak of all machine lifeforms.
>For you inferior organic lifeforms to have dared to intrude this far is unforgivable!
>I will crush you myself!

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>Upon defeating the berserker queen, a mysterious voice echoes through the area........

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>Thank you........The bug that had overrun my core has been removed........ My functionality has returned to normal......
>It was a long, lamentable fight........ But now, we shall fight no longer.
>It was all caused by my bug........ My self-evolution system went out of control, and walked a path of twisted evolution........
>I have installed a new debug system inside myself........A failure like this will not occur again........You have my promise.
>Farewell........From now on, we shall walk separate evolutionary paths once more...

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>........
>........
>........
>[Player] ".....Looks like it's over......"
>[Player] "Mission complete. Returning to the Swordfish."

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It occurred to me I never actually mentioned before that our ship is called the Swordfish

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The Godickling leader excitedly reports that the berserker fleet has scattered and fled.

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Earned a bunch of mission completion XP that we don't actually need at this point, though I like it when games give you numerical credit up through the very end; otherwise feels a bit odd, as if the last battle were fake.

Technically I think you could go fly around the galaxy and goof around now if you wanted to, though in most locations all enemies stop appearing after you complete the goal.

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Went back to talk to Black God

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>Well done. Now space has begun to walk the correct path of evolution once more.
>But as for you, your fight will continue......
>The evolution of lifeforms is an endless fight of billions of years......
>But I expect you have the capacity to survive and reach the next stage......
>You possess the strength to never give up even no matter how hopeless the situation. Do not forget it.

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>Now, I shall open the gate. Return to your home.

>[Player] "Thank you, Mentana. Farewell."
>Shain "I wish we could have talked more."
>Nijiina "I almost want to stay."
>Wind "Bye, God!"
>Kiri "Goodbye. Let's meet again someday."
>Klein "Later, dude!"

>Black God "Farewell, my children. But I believe a time will come for us to meet again........"

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SS Swordish
Acting Captain's Log, stardate unknown
We've finished a really long trip.
It was a few months for us, but who knows how much time has passed on Earth.
We're bringing back a bunch of knowledge and tech and stuff that's doing to surprise everybody and probably start a lot of wars.
We humans are still babies compared to Mentana after all; gotta have our kiddy fights before we grow up. It's gonna take a while.
Like God said, our fight isn't over yet.

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>Special thanks
>names
>names
>names
>...and YOU!

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[Anonymous No.5704332]

Beautiful. Awesome seeing this since I dabbled with the translated rom for snes and always planned on getting back to it .

seeing all these screenshots makes me think it's getting a bump in the queue. Need some space robot goodness

[Anonymous No.5704340]

Great thread OP, this is some fine content

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That was a pretty good time.
I had the SFC sequel on my list of things to look into if I ever got around to playing the first game; think I'll go ahead and bump that up in priority.
Thanks for inspiring me to finally start this, OP.