Still the most fun Smash Bros to play.

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Anonymous Fri Jun 7 14:15:51 2019 No.5642787 [Reply] [Original]

Still the most fun Smash Bros to play.

Anonymous Fri Jun 7 14:23:20 2019 No.5642807

I love the hit stun in 64. Getting hit feels appropriately bad and hitting your opponent feels appropriately great. Balancing and variety aren't the best, but every stage and every character (save for maybe Mario and Luigi) are distinct.

Smash Bros. has gotten much bigger but it's a lot less charming. It's so concerned with its bombastic event status that it's somehow bland despite all the shit they pack into it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 14:28:44 2019 No.5642813 Not true, but I see through your game OP. If I mention the others, I'll be mentioning non /vr/ games and be banned. So I'll just say that Smash 64 is still fun, and definitely the most challenging of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:11:17 2019 No.5642910 It's still my favorite for sure. I don't hate the others, but i love the simplicity and batshit wackeyness of 64. It's definitely the best one for 4 player free for alls with no fucks given.

Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:33:55 2019 No.5642967

The thing I've always liked about 64 is how easy it is to teach someone who's never played it. Everything in the game is very clear and easy to read. I remember that I could never get my cousins into Melee because it was full of things like dodging, near-invisible projectiles (I'm looking at you, Shiek), and overall faster combat that made it harder to follow what was happening unless you already knew what every character was capable of. The only real "what the fuck just happened?" moves in Smash 64 were Jigglypuff and Luigi's kill moves.

Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:38:06 2019 No.5642974

>>5642967
Pretty much this, i used to play 64 with all my buddies from the football team and they adored it. When melee came out i tried to get them to play it, but they wanted to go right back to 64 after we tried. They thought it was made to complicated and preferred 64 since it was so much easier to pick up and play and was fun even if you weren't a wizard at it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:42:15 2019 No.5642986 >>5642807 This. Putting in Joker, some guy who was barely on a Nintendo console, was pretty much the last straw for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:43:45 2019 No.5642992 >>5642967 >>5642974 So 64 is the preferred version for people bad at games and adverse to complexity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:46:38 2019 No.5642995 Does anyone else remember checking the nintendo website when they were revealing smash bros and which characters were included? I was so excited and yet I didn't even get to play a smash bros game at all until melee came out.

Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:49:10 2019 No.5643008

>>5642992
>t. had no friends
A game thats both fun and is simple to pick up and play makes for a great party game, anon. When things start getting more complicated and require practice and more precision it become less appealing in groups because the person who has the most time to get better at it will probably always win.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 15:50:29 2019 No.5643009 >>5642995 i remember seeing the art for the game and wondering why the hell it looked so goofy, but then i realized Hal was making it and it made perfect sense. Kirby looking like he always did shouldn've been the indication.

Anonymous Fri Jun 7 16:09:53 2019 No.5643053
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>>5643008
I'm just baiting, the way you worded it was funny to me. I actually had fun with 64 for probably that reason and think it is a good party game. Though I never played any of the others. It's actually in my opinion one of the reasons Mortal Kombat was so popular as well. Sure the gore and live action sprites were awesome, but it's streamlined with simple inputs so that just about anyone can choose whichever character they like and quickly be whooping butt and using all the moves. I taught my mom how to cheese my buddies with Mileena to great delight, but she couldn't begin to handle SF2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 16:11:05 2019 No.5643062 >>5642787 Agreed. The sequels all feel like you're driving on an ice road, too fast and slippery.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 16:12:59 2019 No.5643070 >>5643062 Brawl actually plays at around a similar speed to 64.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 16:34:46 2019 No.5643131 >>5643070 Have you played 64 recently? Like, just pull up a video of both games. Brawl looks like it's on fast forward compared to 64.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 16:41:53 2019 No.5643143 >>5643131 Brawl feels more sluggish to me because of the physics and hitting, but I'm sure on the whole it's probably "faster." Any given motion or attack in Smash 64 just feels more substantive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 20:52:58 2019 No.5643735 >>5642986 How did you feel about characters like Snake, Cloud, and Bayonetta getting in?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 20:58:30 2019 No.5643747 i miss when smash was just a kid playing with his toys and not Sakurai's terrible fanfiction

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 21:01:26 2019 No.5643754 >>5642992 Melee is the best overall game but it's really only good if you're playing it after playing SSB64.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 21:02:28 2019 No.5643756 >>5643070 Wrong

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 21:03:38 2019 No.5643757 >>5643735 Better than stupid crap like pacman and the animal crossing characters

Anonymous Fri Jun 7 21:21:20 2019 No.5643774

>>5642787
Absolutely based thread. Smash 64 is so fucking underrated, for real. I've been playing it with my bros every weekend aviable, it just feels so good and a bit broken but fun as hell.
Melee is pure cringe sometimes, it's heavy as fuck with no reason and too precise to boredom. And brawl is good if you patch it with project M. But overall Smash 64 is my most played smash.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 21:23:22 2019 No.5643782 >>5643747 Dude, don't be so hard on Sakurai. I think Ultimate feels very good and there will be some more great characters. Maybe smash 6 will be better with a smaller roster.

Anonymous Fri Jun 7 21:55:27 2019 No.5643841

>>5643735
Snake was pretty hype as hell when he was first revealed, and he was kind of a Nintendo character with a couple of games on systems like the NES, GBC, and Gamecube. Still, he never fit with the rest of the cast that well. Cloud and Bayonetta are straight up fucking stupid, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 7 22:02:32 2019 No.5643853 >>5643841 Cloud is fine if you consider it a vidya hall of fame rather than a Nintendo all star game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 00:04:25 2019 No.5644124 File: 126 KB, 620x430, smash bros 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the roster, /vr/? How about Wario using his hats from Wario Land?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 00:22:05 2019 No.5644161 >>5644124 Probably some Rare characters like Banjo or Fulgore/Jago and the ones that got cut (Marth, Mewtwo, Dedede, Bowser & Wario).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 00:24:04 2019 No.5644162 >>5642787 Was Link overpowered in the N64 Smash? I always thought he was. I havent played it in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 00:24:34 2019 No.5644163 >>5644161 Rare wasn't popular in Japan, and Killer Instinct was already forgotten when the first Smash was released.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 00:42:07 2019 No.5644191

>>5644162
>lack of a usable grab
>falls like a rock
>no vertical recovery
>slow attacks
No. In fact, he's one of the worst. Granted, Smash64 is EXTREMELY balanced compared to the later entries, so there are no outright bad characters. Pikachu is a bit overpowered, but he's the only real exception (and Kirby, although he's more "really strong" than "overpowered").

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 00:42:59 2019 No.5644194 >>5644162 He's low tier lol, his recovery is pathetic >>5644163 Banjo was considered for Melee before the split-up and iirc one of the proximity mines was supposed to be from Perfect Dark. I'm sure Rare would have gotten a rep at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 02:15:50 2019 No.5644371 >>5644124 Mother 64 Lucas

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 02:48:00 2019 No.5644439

>>5643853
I find it amusing how Nintendo has a rough time rallying up third party support but everyone wants their character in Smash. Feels to me like Nintendo's consoles aren't viable at all for games, so they use Smash as a commercial for their real games, which aren't on Nintendo.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 03:31:24 2019 No.5644492

>>5644439
Nintendo is run by old men with outdated ideas on how videogaming works. If the Switch was the first Nintendo console it wouldn't have sold at all. People would take one look at its outdated hardware and stick with their superior phones. Nintendo got lucky with the Gameboy and the NES when it came to releasing a system using outdated tech, so they kept it going always trying to cut corners wherever they could and kept getting lucky with specific system seller franchises. Its so sad when people are acting all hyped for a AAA title to get ported to switch years after its initial release with severely cut down graphics and framerate.

Gamecube was their last good console fite me

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 03:40:58 2019 No.5644501 [DELETED]

>>5642813
This guy >>5642807 has the correct idea. you're just one of those insufferable fanbasey smash nerds.

OH! MELEE HAS THE BEST COMMUNITY!!1
OHH, MELEE IS THE MOST COMPETITIVE SMASH GAME!!!1!

I see through your lack of game anon. and it's a bore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:05:47 2019 No.5644523 >>5644501 Im confused, they didn't even mention melee. Is this an le epic nu maymay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:42:44 2019 No.5644569 >>5644492 >run by old men OH YES

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 04:45:31 2019 No.5644574 >>5643757 what's wrong with animal crossing? fucking R.O.B. was in the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 06:47:26 2019 No.5644721 >>5642787 thanks for reminding me to take a shower

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:14:42 2019 No.5645231 >>5644501 What is this retardation? I literally said Smash 64 is still fun to play, and is the most challenging.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:18:30 2019 No.5645239 Isai is just too good

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 12:38:54 2019 No.5645271 We are now officially further removed from the 1999 release of Super Smash Bros. than it was from the release of Donkey Kong.

Sage Sat Jun 8 12:47:22 2019 No.5645291

>>5644574
ROB was stupid too. I think they should have just stuck to characters that make sense for a fighting game. Not stupid meme characters that don't add anything but a cheap gimmick. They should have left the gimmicks to stages and items which it was originally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:43:49 2019 No.5645417 File: 717 KB, 826x967, pm doriyah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you guys saw the Ganondorf mod? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F3ydAQH6jA looks like modders found a way to do model swaps, unlike the scammer running away with that shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:45:57 2019 No.5645420 >>5644163 >but japan fuck off Goldeneye nerd

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:48:40 2019 No.5645423 File: 262 KB, 619x334, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] here's the link to it, if anyone interested: http://n64vault.com/ssb-characters:smash-remix

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:49:57 2019 No.5645426 >>5642787 >no smash attacks >floaty as fuck >broken hitstun >only two viable characters >only one viable stage (that still has a gimmick) 64 was a rushed melee tech demo and the reverence it gets is so blatantly forced

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:51:15 2019 No.5645430 >>5643008 >t. h-had no friends >:((((( kek all the people with friends were playing melee together, not forcing their cousins to play a tech demo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:53:00 2019 No.5645434 >>5644191 >up tilt to win >not overpowered

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 13:55:33 2019 No.5645439 >>5645434 >>5645430 >>5645426 shower NOW

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:02:25 2019 No.5645604

>>5645434
It's not because of the way Smash 64 is played. It's a VERY defensive game because of how easily almost any character can trap you in a bullshit combo, so the entire thing revolves around knowing what the opponent needs to do to set you up for one and avoiding it. Kirby, for example, has a strong ground game and downward aerials, but his upward aerials are EXTREMELY shitty. Kirby fights usually revolve around trying to stay above him at all times, while also keeping him off the ground (or just zoning him on bigger stages with less platforms). Every character has a pretty easy way of countering Kirby, despite how strong he is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:34:14 2019 No.5645680 Does everyone here just suck at video games? There's honestly nothing 64 has the later games don't. Faster smoother gameplay, more options, more stages, more characters, more single player content, more and better everything.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 15:49:40 2019 No.5645713

>>5645680
Melee feels stiff as shit unless you do all the silly tech just to attack or move
Brawl is unpolished as fuck and has 0 combo-potential unless you're meta knight or like chain-grabbing
4 was epic ladder combos or throw into aerials then back to neutral with some weird balance issues
Ultimate feels like 4 but with slightly faster movement and replacing throw combos with auto cancel aerials resulting in boring rushdown, not to mention the game heavily favors disjoints aka sword shitters.
And it doesn't matter if they add a shit-ton of characters when they aren't that fun to play.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:29:42 2019 No.5645935 >>5644124 Ideal roster would be >1st/2nd party only >No retarded 3rd parties to create stupid rosterfag wars >No clones. Every character is unique. We do not need 2 Marios, 3 Links, 3 Foxes, and 4 Marths.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:35:06 2019 No.5645943

I like the small and tight roster. The stages are all relatively good too. Though I hate Brinstar for the rising tide of piss that always kills everyone. My favorite character to play as is Falcon. Unlike Melee which has a ton of unnecessary characters (like Dr, Pichu, Roy, Falco and Ganondorf) there's just Luigi who I'm ok with since they are the Mario BROS and it is Smash Brothers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:41:46 2019 No.5645960 >>5645943 The Falcon Punch in 64 is still the best

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:50:34 2019 No.5645978

Did you know there are Smash 64 combo contests? Here is a vid of Prince's finest combos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvq88NLSu7s
This vid is cool but it doesn't show the many failed attempts leading up to the successful combo. If you have time watching the whole thing is very tense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTB66ZlQyO4

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 17:51:37 2019 No.5645982 >>5645978 >isai is now a smash 64 judge based

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:01:51 2019 No.5646000

>>5645434
It depends entirely which version you're playing. The US version patched out Wavedashing (or the N64 equivalent) and made it much easier to escape combos. In the Japanese version, Kirby is fucking absurd. The tradeoff being that Pikachu is significantly less overpowered when every character has so much more mobility.

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:21:50 2019 No.5646039

Its certainly the Smash game with best physics, which is what makes it my favorite. Its just so easy to send people flying and quick comboing them to KOs. The only thing I dislike are the overall small stages, I prefer the big ones that came with the newer games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:34:13 2019 No.5646061 >>5645604 except kirby has by far the best air time anyway and thus has the best means of getting other characters out of the air (especially with the aforementioned dair) so that strategy is a bit moot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:35:14 2019 No.5646068 >>5645935 ultimate link is very different. so is wolf

Anonymous Sat Jun 8 18:55:46 2019 No.5646092

>>5646061
The strategy used in almost every high level Kirby matchups is to alternate between the ground and platforms to force Kirby to come where you want him to. If he's on the ground and you're on the platforms, he's open when trying to get up due to his bad upward aerials. When he's on the platforms and you're on the ground, he can't do anything unless he comes down, while you can bait him into coming down by making safe attacks from below. That's the big reason Kirby isn't really considered to be gamebreaking anymore: His shitty upward aerials leave him REALLY vulnerable to this.

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 00:17:37 2019 No.5646625

>>5642787
I finally did it. I beat 3 Level 9 CPUs on team battle using Kirby. My secondary characters are Nes and Samus but I can't beat 3 Level 9's only 2. Kirby is definitely OP.

The worst CPUs to fight are probably Fox, Pikachu and Luigi (He always gets the timing perfect on his UP+B to instakill me while his buddy is juggling me)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 17:09:14 2019 No.5648250 How do people get so worked up over this game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 03:01:33 2019 No.5649590 >>5644163 The Japanese fucking adore Golden Eye and Banjo Kazooie, but most specially they love Donkey Kong Country.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 03:05:06 2019 No.5649598 >>5649590 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqIFfD-RI8

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 03:12:33 2019 No.5649613 >OLD, GOOD >NEW, BAD

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 02:37:38 2019 No.5652252 >>5643062 >Agreed. The sequels all feel like you're driving on an ice road, too fast and slippery. >>5643143 >Any given motion or attack in Smash 64 just feels more substantive. ^^^These exactly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 14:59:21 2019 No.5653318 >>5642787 Its the most fun to play until someone realizes half the cast can combo to like 80 by spamming Utilt Any retard can learn how ruin casual play in 5 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:56:49 2019 No.5653809 >>5642787 Objectively wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 12:39:09 2019 No.5655854 >>5653809 >objectively

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 13:52:43 2019 No.5656018 >>5644124 Sakurai claims Rare wouldn't be able to handle a Smash game well, i think they could've helped a lot on the graphic capabilities and resources. also Banjo FTW

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 14:00:28 2019 No.5656038

>>5645935
>>No retarded 3rd parties to create stupid rosterfag wars
that isn't gonna stop people from creating bullshit with more discussed 1st party characters
>No clones. Every character is unique. We do not need 2 Marios, 3 Links, 3 Foxes, and 4 Marths.
Wolf is inarguably a Luigified clone, same for current Roy and Lucas
but if this means cutting Ganondorf for Ganon, do it.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 14:10:56 2019 No.5656064

>>5644124
I would add Wario, Bowser, Dedede, Ganondorf, Mewtwo, and playable Metal Mario. The marketing would center around how "now the villains are in!"
Perhaps some new heroes too.

A story mode, using 90's CG pre-rendered maps like Mario Party. Some big bosses besides Master Hand, like Andross and Ganon.

Simple Final Smashes, perhaps using a super-move bar like other games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 14:23:03 2019 No.5656091 >>5656018 >Sakurai claims Rare wouldn't be able to handle a Smash game As much as I love Rare I'm inclined to agree, their games are balls-to-the-wall full of cool shit but when I think "rare" I don't think "stable fps & super tight movement mechanics"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 17:37:18 2019 No.5656542 File: 144 KB, 400x394, 1553903656974.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5643757 >stupid crap like pacman

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 18:43:42 2019 No.5656730 >>5644124 only 3rd parties will be banjo kazooie, black mage, megaman, a belmont. I cant think of any other 3rd party characters that'd be important enough to add. Also little mac should have been added way earlier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 19:07:50 2019 No.5656798 >>5646625 Lol? You can just spam uptilt with kirby and kill 10000 level 9 CPUs...

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 21:32:29 2019 No.5657186

>>5646625
>>5656798
You can easily beat any number of level 9 CPUs if you use Kirby's stage, go on the farthest out cloud, and just keep jumping. The CPUs at any level setting will always kill themselves when you do this. Whatever their behavior algorithms are there's something in there that results in them jumping and falling to their death if you're on that cloud.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 23:12:06 2019 No.5657409 >>5643757 oh shut the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 23:16:16 2019 No.5657416 File: 52 KB, 183x340, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5645291 >Not stupid meme characters that don't add anything but a cheap gimmick. go kiss my ass

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 23:17:32 2019 No.5657417 >>5656064 >adding Ganondorf and not Ganon bleugh

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 23:21:27 2019 No.5657426
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Smash 64 modding is look fantastic so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-FuiQo4lIo&feature=youtu.be
Ganondorf has a unique Forward Smash and Young Link was added over Link

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 04:20:13 2019 No.5657898 Not even a meleefag, but melee will always be my favorite. Nothing in the franchise will ever come close to the jump from 64 to Melee. Melee to Brawl, Brawl to 4 were nothing special, and 4 to Ultimate was mostly copy/paste.

Anonymous Thu Jun 13 05:17:11 2019 No.5657978

You people can't be serious. There are things to praise about Smash 64 when compared to the other games and its none of what you are saying.
>>5645713
>Melee feels stiff as shit unless you do all the silly tech just to attack or move
Melee.
Melee feels stiff. "Stiff as hell" compared to 64. Yeah

I'm fuckin' done with this board. Adios.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 05:19:46 2019 No.5657981 >>5645291 You sound like a dipstick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 05:28:31 2019 No.5657987 >>5657978 >There are things to praise about Smash 64 when compared to the other games Like what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 05:54:55 2019 No.5658025 File: 27 KB, 200x200, sniffsniff.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5657978 >>5657898

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 08:30:49 2019 No.5658216 >>5644492 Yeah sure people would "play" on their phones over actual systems

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 08:31:59 2019 No.5658219 >>5645680 >muh competiveness Tourneyniggers should fucking hang

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 09:06:47 2019 No.5658287 >>5658216 Lots of kids the age Nintendo traditionally markets to are most used to playing games on phones and tablets these days.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 09:17:04 2019 No.5658309 >>5658219 Player vs player competition is the heart of all games. Single player is basically masturbation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 12:54:04 2019 No.5658736 >>5642787 i love 64, but melee is more fun

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 13:23:52 2019 No.5658792 >>5658309 Masturbation is better than sex

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 13:26:18 2019 No.5658797 >>5657978 Read what i posted you dipshit, try playing Melee without using any of the advanced tech, it feels stiff as fuck compared to 64, the movement there doesn't require you to do all the fancy shit just to move or attack. Go back to worship Mango.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 15:29:33 2019 No.5658997 >>5658797 >wavedash >advanced don't you have a Nintendo treehouse to watch

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 15:32:50 2019 No.5659004 >>5645943 What's your criteria for unnecessary? Because all those characters are cool, apart from maybe Roy who's unfinished. This reads like a 2002 gamefuqs post by a 13 year old.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 15:46:01 2019 No.5659030 >>5658997 wavedash is part of Melee's AT, it isn't hard to do but it still requires some training in order to fully utilize it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 16:32:36 2019 No.5659114 >>5642807 Unfortunately you've just described the evolution of video games.

Anonymous Thu Jun 13 18:28:44 2019 No.5659396

Melee is always going to be my favorite in the series, but 64 is tied with Ultimate for second place, at least when it comes to casual play. The sound design is great, especially that generic explosion they use for everything, and I like how concise the roster is. The ridiculous hitstun is a bit of a pain, but if you're just messing around with your friends, the fact that you're basically fucked if you get hit once makes for some fun matches. The only thing that I'm not really a fan of is the fact that the movesets are so limited.

>>5643853
Yeah, but that's never been what the series was. The addition of Cloud just makes it "Nintendo All Stars + Cloud Strife". At least Bayonetta had starred in a prominent game that was released on a Nintendo system. Cloud's only connection with Nintendo was a very brief guest appearance in a Kingdom Hearts spin-off released roughly one decade before his debut in Smash.

>>5658797
Even just running/jumping around and attacking, Melee is way more fluid than 64. I really don't know what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 13 21:36:39 2019 No.5659758 >>5642967 Ness's baseball bat and Falcon Punch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 14 14:23:12 2019 No.5661250 >>5659396 >At least Bayonetta had starred in a prominent game that was released on a Nintendo system she still had zero reason to be in over Dante or Ryu Hayabusa either

Anonymous Fri Jun 14 14:40:36 2019 No.5661283
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>>5659396
>Cloud's only connection with Nintendo was a very brief guest appearance in a Kingdom Hearts spin-off released roughly one decade before his debut in Smash

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 14 14:42:52 2019 No.5661287 >>5643757 This is probably the worst post on /vr/ right now. Jesus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 14 14:57:02 2019 No.5661320 >>5661283 >yet another spinoff cameo nice "nintendo history" you got there

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 14 16:54:29 2019 No.5661608 I wish later games had an option to use the Smash 64 hit sfx. they sound so good

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 14 19:21:20 2019 No.5661973 >>5643735 Snake had a game developed by a Nintendo second house. Nintendo is paying for Bayonetta's development. Sonic has a Mario's crossover. But Cloud is hard to justify.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 14 19:24:32 2019 No.5661980 >>5661973 >Snake had a game developed by a Nintendo second house. fuck that noise Metal Gear been on Nintendo consoles since after the MSX release, that's something to note for.

Anonymous Fri Jun 14 19:25:36 2019 No.5661982

>>5661608
later games don't have it because that was all the cause by Nintendo Treehouse
yes, they were the reason why the US release of Smash 64 had god-tier sound design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6vSKwukPCs

the original SFX from the japanese release sounds like shit

Anonymous Sat Jun 15 15:48:24 2019 No.5663996

>>5661250
>Dante
Is there a DMC game that was released on a Nintendo console that I'm forgetting about?

>Ryu Hayabusa
He'd be a cool character, but it's debatable which one has a stronger connection with Nintendo. I mean, Bayonetta's entire series (y'know, all two games) is on a Nintendo console, and the most recent one is a Nintendo exclusive released around the time that Smash 4 came out. At the moment, she's basically a purestrain Nintendo character.

Meanwhile, only a few of Ryu's games have been released for a Nintendo system, and I'd argue that he's more well-known for the modern series. Of course, the argument in his favor is that the classic trilogy is extremely iconic among NES titles, to the point where Ryu is one of the first characters I think of when I think about the NES. I don't think it's as clear-cut as you're suggesting, though.

>>5661283
Okay so I neglected that one, but like the other anon pointed out, it's still just a cameo in a spin-off title. Honestly, I even think that Snake is a stretch, and he's got way more going for him than Cloud on this front.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 15 22:26:57 2019 No.5664880 >>5663996 DMC 1 is getting ported to the switch anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 13:29:23 2019 No.5666406 For casual play I really dont understand how can anyone defend Melee, its the worst one by far.

Anonymous Sun Jun 16 19:17:48 2019 No.5667238

>>5642787
I like that every character feels unique. If I decide to play as DK, and then Yoshi, it's night and day between their playstyles.
In the newer Smash games, I don't even touch 95% of the roster because it seems like they took handful of the same moves out of a bag for every character they develop. In 64, Melee, and even Brawl I can play any character (except Ness, no idea what to do with him) and have fun. In 4 and Ultimate, I almost exclusively play Peach or DK.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 19:25:20 2019 No.5667252 >>5658025 Hamtaro for Smash when?

Anonymous Sun Jun 16 21:12:47 2019 No.5667494

>>5663996
>Is there a DMC game that was released on a Nintendo console that I'm forgetting about?
DMC1 is coming on the Switch and its rumored every game but V is coming as well

>He'd be a cool character, but it's debatable which one has a stronger connection with Nintendo
the Ninja Gaiden series has been on Nintendo consoles for years and Koei Temco has been doing a lot of stuff for Nintendo before Clover/Platinum came to the picture
meanwhile they only funded Bayonetta 2 and got into Smash easily because Kamiya and Sakurai are best buds.

it's pretty clear which one has more deserving history to be in Smash

>only a few of Ryu's games have been released for a Nintendo system,
Ninja Gaiden:
>the original trilogy, the SNES "portmake" of the NES trilogy, Ninja Gaiden Shadow, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword, and NG3: Razor's Edge
Bayonetta:
>just the first two games
that's not even counting cameos from spinoffs, that's plenty of Nintendo releases right there

>I'd argue that he's more well-known for the modern series.
he's well-known for both and his older games is often brought up and compared a lot to platformers like Castlevania and such

Anonymous Sun Jun 16 21:15:39 2019 No.5667504
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playing the beta patch for Falcon in Smash Remix
making Falco's Neutral B the Phantasm was a pretty decent idea desu
do any one here care that Smash 64 is getting a lot of nifty mods now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 21:30:10 2019 No.5667534 >>5642787 You can feel the stiffness with your soul

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 21:33:21 2019 No.5667540 File: 24 KB, 300x300, stand up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5667504 Smash 64 is getting modded now? What tools and resources are needed?

Anonymous Sun Jun 16 21:44:56 2019 No.5667572
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>>5667540
check here:
http://n64vault.com/ssb-characters:smash-remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-FuiQo4lIo&feature=youtu.be

lots of guides and tool available at the moment
and if you wanna try and test out 64 Falco early in Smash Remix, you gotta join the dev discord to get the patch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 23:27:03 2019 No.5667784 >>5661982 The changes are really minor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 23:31:28 2019 No.5667796 Its brawl. Mutiplayer sub space emissary dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 23:34:28 2019 No.5667807 >>5661982 Treehouse didn't exist during the 5th gen, you fucking idiot. That Nitendo of America

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 23:34:56 2019 No.5667812 >>5644124 Polygons

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 16 23:36:19 2019 No.5667815 >>5667504 >Z

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 09:32:35 2019 No.5668679 File: 664 KB, 1280x1705, CkMbmOSXIAABY5u.jpg:orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5667807 >Treehouse didn't exist during the 5th gen, you fucking idiot. >existed since the 1990s fuck off zoomer

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 09:37:23 2019 No.5668692 File: 693 KB, 1280x1705, CkMbhHeXEAALCzC.jpg:orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] and there's no fucking difference between Treehouse and NoA employees they're the same shit, just one has a recognized Nintendo subsidiary for localization

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 09:41:29 2019 No.5668702 >>5667796 SSE was never good outside the cutscenes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 09:52:42 2019 No.5668732 >>5668679 Good old Ken Lobb, before his name was brutally assassinated along with all the other K. Lobbs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 09:58:57 2019 No.5668742 >>5668679 In the VHS of The Making of DKC that came with some magazines in 1994 they even enter the Treehouse and interview a few employees (Ken Lobb included).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 10:00:00 2019 No.5668745 >>5668742 Sorry, here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv_YCSbWP78

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:21:23 2019 No.5668908 >>5667504 >>5667572 >controller-killing game is going to kill more n64-pads YES, YES!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:32:36 2019 No.5668931 File: 16 KB, 261x197, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5668908 here's some of the planned characters they're gonna mod into Smash Remix

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:36:17 2019 No.5668939 >>5668679 Surely that's just a clever name for Rareware because of the whole DKC thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:40:36 2019 No.5668956 >>5668931 >Dark Samus Whoa, crappy 2000s characters in my Smash? Should be Zero Samus with Super design. >Megaman Doesn't belong in Smash 1. Just doesn't fit. >Funky Kong Really? Who gave a fuck about him? Why not K. Rool? >Pichu/Raichu Meh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:42:39 2019 No.5668962 >>5642787 definitely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:43:04 2019 No.5668963 >>5668956 >rosterfagging just do you own mod then i insisted they should do Ninten over Ness, but i'm not complaining over them doing Lucas

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:45:03 2019 No.5668968 >>5668956 >Doesn't belong in Smash 1. Just doesn't fit. why? >Really? Who gave a fuck about him? Why not K. Rool? good luck trying to add a counter in Smash 64

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:48:11 2019 No.5668975 >>5658216 >actual system it's a shitty tablet buddy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 11:55:15 2019 No.5668992 >>5645426 >>no smash attacks Oh, so you've never played the game? Good to know.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:02:22 2019 No.5669006

>>5668968
But why he should have a counter? Just because Ultimate K. Rool does?
He wouldn't have a counter in Smash 64. AS Wario wouldn't be ~le funny gross farting man

And Megaman was more associated with Playstation when Smash 1 was released. Classic Megaman barely had any new game, mostly Playstation re-releases of the NES games.
No one talked much about classic Megaman in 1999.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:17:26 2019 No.5669038

>>5669006
>But why he should have a counter? Just because Ultimate K. Rool does?
you're literally modding K.Rool over DK and K.Rool doesn't have other possible move fitting to be Down Special
>He wouldn't have a counter in Smash 64. AS Wario wouldn't be ~le funny gross farting man
who says it wouldn't be a fart move? that could possible be that but with an moderate explosion attack

>And Megaman was more associated with Playstation when Smash 1 was released.
dude, this is a fucking community mod anyone is contributing to.
nobody gives a shit if all the Classic and X games came to the Playstation onwards and Mega Man wasn't considered based on rosterfagging.
heck Young Link and Ganondorf shouldn't be there because OoT wasn't even far in development prior to 64's development. Should they be removed as well?

if you think that has to be somebody else, go contribute to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:39:11 2019 No.5669074 >>5643747 same

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:40:13 2019 No.5669079 >>5644492 snes was their last good console gamecube was tolerable >>5645426 >he needs to use a c-stick to do smash attacks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:51:31 2019 No.5669101 >>5669079 >gamecube was tolerable >worse mario >worse zelda >worse star fox >worse kirby >worse metroid >worse pokemon and it goes on

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:57:11 2019 No.5669109 Melee > 64 > Ultimate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sm4sh > Brawl for me Screeching aspies on this board can’t handle the fact that both the /vr/ and two of the non-/vr/ entries in this series are fun

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:07:48 2019 No.5669131 File: 494 KB, 752x1063, Smelee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] do you smell that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:11:29 2019 No.5669136 >>5668939 >t. didn't read the entire article it wasn't even Rareware

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 21:37:11 2019 No.5670307

>>5667494
I see your point about Ryu, but Bayonetta's "first two games" make up the entirety of her series. She clashes thematically with the rest of the roster, but in all ways, she's a Nintendo character. Although now that I think about it, the fact that the NES trilogy is basically inseparable from the console itself in (I think it's fair to say) the minds of most of its fans means that Ryu absolutely deserves the slot. I'd probably put him in place of Snake or Cloud, though.

>>5669109
That's pretty indisputable, although I'd place Ultimate ahead of 64 if we're talking about competitive play. Casually speaking the list is spot-on, but Ultimate is pretty well-balanced, fast paced, and packed with content.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 23:31:13 2019 No.5670504

>>5670307
>but Bayonetta's "first two games" make up the entirety of her series
you can make the same excuse for fucking Minecraft and that alone doesn't make shit like Steve more deserving than Ryu for Smash. same for other stuff like Cave Story, Shantae, etc
and that didn't get him over Banjo, who's last game wasn't on a Nintendo console, didn't it?
> She clashes thematically with the rest of the roster, but in all ways, she's a Nintendo character.
no, she's just a guest character. even if Nintendo funded their games, she still remains as SEGA property. if we're talking about who "feels" more Nintendo, its going to be Ryu by default thanks to his series origins.
> I'd probably put him in place of Snake or Cloud, though.
he's more like Simon and Snake if anything. only bi difference is that Ninja Gaiden wasn't a port from another console at first, unlike Castlevania and Metal Gear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 01:40:54 2019 No.5670725 >>5657186 >Kirby's stage >farthest out cloud You're talking about Yoshi's stage, Yoshi's Island.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 16:59:20 2019 No.5672282 >>5642986 Joker felt really souless, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 18:28:09 2019 No.5672413 >>5668931 >no Ridley Dropped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 18:33:38 2019 No.5672423 >>5672413 has ANYONE did a N64-styled Ridley model? if there was one, BaganSmashBros would have already completed it already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 20:41:40 2019 No.5672647 >>5667504 >>5667572 So how many characters can be added into the game at once? How versatile is it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 20:55:48 2019 No.5672657 It's fun to play with friends more than melee. My cousins know how to wave dash pretty nicely so we opt to play smash bros 64 to be a bit fair. It does get a bit laggy at times.

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 21:58:12 2019 No.5672760
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>>5672647
right now, they can only replace existing characters with new ones
but the head dev of SR seems pretty confident they could pull it off some how

i theorize that they'll make use of metal mario and the polygon team for extra slots or reverse engineer it to create a custom one by scratch. (think of BrawlEX or PM's Clone Engine)

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 22:19:00 2019 No.5672792

>>5672647
They don't have much control over the overall structure of the game yet, so they can only really swap one thing for another (like completely overwriting Dreamland with their custom stage). It's probably gonna be a while before they can expand the roster beyond the original 12.

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 22:23:12 2019 No.5672797

>>5643735
Snake is ridiculous enough that I'm fine with it, especially since he had a Nintendo-exclusive remake of MGS1 (plus several Nintendo games prior to that point).
Cloud should not have been there, we had six Final Fantasy games on Nintendo consoles and plenty of characters to choose from within those six games.
Bayonetta is basically just there to say "fuck you" to Sony so that's tolerable.

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 22:40:57 2019 No.5672820

>>5643735
I'm fine with Snake in Smash, but I don't like Snake in Brawl. It's like, when there are only two third-party characters, he really has no business being one of them. I know why he was added, but he just felt out of place. He's fine now that third-party characters are more of a regular thing, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 23:14:00 2019 No.5672860 >>5644163 >Rare wasn't popular in Japan donkey kong country 3, yep, the "black sheep", sold 1 million copies just in japan

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 23:34:27 2019 No.5672883

>>5670725
Yeah, my bad. Left my N64 at my parents' house when I went off to uni 15 years ago and the Smash Bros I downloaded for my Android N64 emulator isn't too fun to play because I used to heavily abuse the tapping left / right with A or whatever the button was to make Kirby do that sliding kick (or really to make any character do their best quick and cheap striking move), and you can't do a quick tap with any sort of reliability on a virtual joystick. So I haven't actually looked at it in some time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 19 00:09:38 2019 No.5672939 >>5668931 >no banjo or meowth dropped

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 19 00:11:34 2019 No.5672941 >>5672939 -good news, some other modder wants to tackle Banjo -meowth fucking sucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 19 02:14:04 2019 No.5673091 >>5645713 >Melee feels stiff as shit unless you do all the silly tech just to attack or move >Melee stiff compared to Smash 64 I know we're literally on a retro games board but this is the hardest I've ever seen anyone nostalgiafag

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 19 02:16:36 2019 No.5673094 >>5673091 boohoo go back to /v/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 19 15:34:16 2019 No.5674130 The physics of 64 are just so satisfying. It's better than Melee or Brawl despite being much more limited with roster and stages. The physics are just too good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 20 08:16:22 2019 No.5675792 >>5642807 Fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 20 11:06:42 2019 No.5676070 >>5642807 >get hit once >take a 70% or death combo for free The amount of hitstun + no Directional Influence made combos pretty uninteractive and boring imo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 20 11:09:01 2019 No.5676076 peak boomer posting

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 00:20:24 2019 No.5677960 FF7, the game itself, is literally on a Nintendo console now and the devs themselves shat on console war cucks trying to dictate inclusions stay mad grandpas

Anonymous Fri Jun 21 00:53:21 2019 No.5678035

>>5676070
That's because Smash 64 is far more akin to Virtua Fighter than more standard fighting games. Both players can very, very easily fuck each other up if one makes a mistake, so it's a game of making safe attacks while trying to bait your opponent into giving you an opening. It's very much a game where the combos are a means to an end rather than the main attraction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 17:38:14 2019 No.5679718 someone is working on Dedede now

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 19:29:03 2019 No.5679952 >>5668745 good video

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 21 20:11:40 2019 No.5680041 >autosage rip thread

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