Dragon Quest IV

[Anonymous No.4302405]

I'm doing a playthrough of the Dragon Quest series. Already decided to just do 1 - 3 and 5 and 6 on the SFC, but I'm torn about 4. Which version is generally seen as superior?

[Anonymous No.4302541]

>>4302405
>Which version is generally seen as superior?

Stop with these threads. Just play the original game like everybody else did, then play one of the ports or remakes if you feel so inclined to do so. There's nothing stopping you from playing different versions of the same game.

[Anonymous No.4302569]

>>4302405
NES is absolutely fine for the first run. You can do the DS or mobile later.

[Anonymous No.4303226]

PS1 is the best one but its in japanese only
Next best option is DS version

[Anonymous No.4303316]

>>4302541
Stop being such a bitch

[Anonymous No.4303352]

>>4302405
since people are whiny homos, let me make the decision for you - play the NES version

[Anonymous No.4303661]

>>4302405
>1 - 3
>SFC
Sure play the baby remakes, you baby.
>5 and 6 on the SFC
I am sensing some inconsistancy here. Why go from being a remake virgin to an original version chad halfway through? I mean it's good that you're not going to ruin your first play of these two with babby mode but it's weird that you'd do that for only some of the games.

Anyway to answer the original question, you should pplay the NES version of 4. And 1-3.

[Anonymous No.4303672]

>>4302405
i played ds. portable, updated, and easier to find. had a blast. wish my younger brother hadn't lost my copy or i would replay it now when i'm bored at work.

[Anonymous No.4303692]

>>4303661
Mostly I just prefer the art style of the SFC games and as far as I'm aware most of the changes to them are minor QoL related.
I'll probably just stick to the NES version of 4 though. No intererest in playing handheld games

[Anonymous No.4303779]

Japanese DS version. Avoid the translations.

[Anonymous No.4303781]

>>4303779
what if he doesn't know japanese

also party chat a shit

[Anonymous No.4303786]

>>4303781
He could learn it like others have done.
It's not just about the cut out party chat. The translations completely rewrote the script with retarded stereotypes

[Anonymous No.4303909]

>>4303786
Yes, let's learn a language and wait for a couple of years to play a game that is perfectly playable in english. That sounds like a good investment of time.

[Anonymous No.4303926]

>>4303909
Ignore that autistic retard. DQ4DS is fine in Their only reason to scare people into investing years of their life just to play one game is to keep feeling "special" and above "normies"

[Anonymous No.4303950]

>>4303909
>play a game that is perfectly playable in english.
It isn't. And when you want to play through the entire DQ series you already have a future of badly and untranslated games ahead.
Years are a vast exaggeration. You can play something like DQ within months or even weeks.

[Anonymous No.4304340]

>>4303926
I know. I played the DS game and it was perfectly fine. It lacks party chat if I remember which is a shame, but fuck that if it means I'll have to learn a language to understand what it's about.

[Anonymous No.4304345]

>>4303950
> You can play something like DQ within months or even weeks.
if by "play" you mean constantly stopping every 2 minutes to look words up in a dictionary

[Anonymous No.4304425]

>>4304345
That's just the first few steps and with modern technology it's hardly a big effort. Soon you build up pace and the more words you know the less you need to look up.

[Anonymous No.4304429]

>>4304425
either way it ain't gonna take only a few months. you dweebo fags sell false expectations. this is why nobody likes you in these threads
阿呆ウェエアボ

[Anonymous No.4304438]

>>4304429
>either way it ain't gonna take only a few months.
It did for me and I didn't even rush it.

[Anonymous No.4304446]

>>4304438
Impressive. I've seen niggers pass N1 with less than a year of study before.

[Anonymous No.4304463]

>>4304446
And you hardly need N1 level comprehension for a game like DQ.

[Anonymous No.4304468]

>>4302405
Android version has party chat, which easily makes it the best.

[Anonymous No.4304490]

Ima ask this here since there's no designated DQ thread: What's the best way to earn casino tokens? Just savescumming the slot machines?

[Anonymous No.4304492]

Ima ask this here since there's no designated DQ thread: What's the best way to earn casino tokens in DQ7? Just savescumming the slot machines?

[Anonymous No.4304664]

>>4304429
>>4304463
Fuck off and kill yourselves I fucking hate you people why did you follow me to /vr/
Learning Japanese is fucking useless stop ruining threads

[Anonymous No.4304752]

Where did everything go wrong?

[Anonymous No.4304756]

Okay, let's settle this right now. Exactly when did psaro's concept art get created?

[Anonymous No.4304764]

>>4303692
The SFC version of 3 gives you new tools and adjustments that significantly reduce difficulty. Not sure about 1 and 2 but i've heard EXP requirements were reduced for both of these to make the game easier.

[Anonymous No.4304773]

>>4304752
When retarded humans tried to kill the ruby market by flooding it with rosa's tears.

[Anonymous No.4304791]

Dragon Quest remakes fundamentally ruin the games, in ways that are not immediately obvious. The whole attraction of DQ is that it masterfully handles classic, no-bullshit menu combat. Every other jRPG franchise needed some sort of gimmick to keep it interesting, or an engaging plot, but DQ is entirely built around making its basic mechanics work well around random encounters and grinding.
Case in point, DQ3, probably the most well-balanced jRPG I've ever played. The inclusion of auto-targeting by itself makes it immediately less interesting. Spreading out your attacks correctly is an important micro-decision that gives every fight that extra strategic value, keeping you from blindly mashing A. Furthermore, increasing the gold and experience gain sucks, since another major difference between DQ and most games in the genre is that 1. you can't afford all the latest equipment for most of the game, and 2. you have to level for a bit when reaching a new territory. Really, the only DQ game that needed balancing was 2 when you reach Rhone. Everything else just makes it worse.

[Anonymous No.4304836]

>>4304791
You're wrong.

[Anonymous No.4304839]

>>4304791
What about the balancing changes they made for the American versions?

[Anonymous No.4304843]

>>4304839
They are still minor compared to the differences in the japanese remakes. I've seen people make this argument, since e.g. Dragon Warrior III apparently increases exp gains by 25%. But it's nowhere near as game-changing as the pointless changes on Super Famicom versions. And, ultimately, I'd play the Famicom version if there was a fan translation, but there isn't. So, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.4304847]

Android version has party chat and you can get it free on the Chinese appstore, also don't think too much about playing any other version and play it again with party chat later,DQ4 it's a pain to replay sadly

[Anonymous No.4304849]

>>4304791

I agree, except DQ2's balance seemed perfectly fine to me. Having to grind in Rhone brought the game to a screeching halt, but it was no less tedious than grinding in DQ1 in preparation for the axe knight guarding Loto's armor.

I always recommend people just play the original versions of these games, then decide from there whether or not remakes are worth pursuing. Ports and remakes aren't supposed to be regarded as mutually exclusive choices. There is absolutely no harm in having different versions of a game in your library.

[Anonymous No.4304869]

>>4304849
I think grinding in DQ1 works better because the entire point of the game is to reach a sufficient level. The game has a bare minimum of RPG mechanics, but it manages to be interesting because you have to know at which points on the map encounters turn stronger, when's a good time to take a risk etc. Halving your gold in DQ1 is fucking heart-breaking compared to the future games. And, it's a short game anyway, so it doesn't feel tedious to me.

[Anonymous No.4305076]

>>4304843
>But it's nowhere near as game-changing as the pointless changes on Super Famicom versions
Why do you think adding thieves or changing some spells is pointless?

[Anonymous No.4305084]

>>4303786
Ive studied for 3 years and still barely understand japanese. Fuck off autist

[Anonymous No.4305092]

>>4303950
If there is any game in this world that is worth learning japanese for, it's clearly not DQIV

[Anonymous No.4305109]

Anybody who says they'd prefer to play Dragon Quest 3 on Famicom rather than SFC is a liar.
Famicom is harder sure, but mainly because of poor design choices. SFC is simply the better made game and much more enjoyable to actually play.

[Anonymous No.4305119]

>>4305109
3 SFC has cuter girls, too

[Anonymous No.4305147]

>>4305109
>anyone with a differing opinion is a LIAR!

Different people like different things, and that's perfectly okay. It's time to grow up, Anon.

[Anonymous No.4305204]

>>4305092
Learning Japanese is something everybody interested in Japanese retro games has to do eventually.
If you aren't going to do it for DQ4 with its insulting mockery of a localization, when will you?

[Anonymous No.4305296]

The truth is that DQ is not that great of a series.

Besides their best entries (DQIII SFC and DQVIII) there really isn't anything that feels mandatory to play, though I would honestly recommend DQI SFC. Worrying so much about which version of DQIV (one of the weakest entries in the saga, too) you should play is nonsense. If you like retro feel go for NES, if you like better art direction and presentation go for DS/Mobile.

Games tend to drag out way too much for no reason, have weak stories (probably because they get stretched out so much), mediocre characters that are mostly memorable because you spend a thousand hours using them, music is meh, difficulty is just 'grind until lvl x'

It's mind-blowing that people actually spend weeks/months on a single game then intend everyone to do the same with every version of every game, or even learn japanese.

After finishing most games in this series my reaction was 'that's it?'

Not saying it's bad, or that you won't have fun with it, but DQ is a series I feel should be enjoyed with low investment

[Anonymous No.4305302]

>>4305296
Put V up there with III and VIII.
Other than that post is pretty dead on

[Anonymous No.4305317]

>>4302405
Play 5 on the PS2 you fool. As for 4 the NES version is the best. The DS port has a notoriously awful translation.