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BAD DAY FOR THE EASTER BUNNY Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:39:43 2015 No.2327592 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2314243 >>2322262
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

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===POPULAR MODS===

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Demonsteele: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5302
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
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Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:40:05 2015 No.2327593

===NEWS===

[04-02] Nuclear Halls, a new map by Adam Windsor (MM2, Requiem, Dmonfear, CChest4 etc.)
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/72300-nuclear-halls-boom-map/

[03-30] Valiant (skillsaw's MBF megawad) RC3 is available, only minor bugfixes left.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1356392

[03-29] Not an April Fools' joke: Zandronum 2.0 has been finally released.
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5818

[03-28] Estranged, a new 32 map Boom-compatible megawad, by Foodles.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1355797

[03-27] The /newstuff Chronicles #474
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4384

[03-23] Demonsteele v0.8 released.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=823467#p823467

[03-20] The /newstuff Chronicles #473
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4374

[03-18] The Golden Boner Awards: GMOTA/DemonSteele/HDoom/LOVELY.WAD/200minvr/MoAaS
>>2296201 >>2296203

[03-16] Plutonia 64, a remake of Plutonia for Doom 64 EX.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1348501

[03-14] Another episode in the Favillesco series, by Nicholas Monti, of Eviltech fame.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/72083-favillesco-alpha-episode-2-desecration-on-thebe/

[03-13] As promised: Tabula Rasa, a 5-map wad for any source port, by Dewce.
>>2287504
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=tabula_rasa.wad

[03-13] Zero-Master retakes the Doom2 speed record by an astonishing 83 (eighty-three!) seconds.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-speed-demos/72075-doom-2-in-2032/
https://youtu.be/ghCPOd_V-JE

[03-12] Doomed Space Wars, by Pcorf, 3rd beta release
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1351392

[03-11] OBLIGE v6.20 featuring monster closets
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1351352

[03-09] GMOTA v0.9.8 finally arrives
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45115

[03-08] A mod for Trailblazer from the maker of BD:SE
>>2279145
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ak489t2txom92x/TB_Burst_Pistol.pk3

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Please reply to this post with news.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:47:26 2015 No.2327598 File: 45 KB, 500x259, DOOM AND DESPAIR.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327592 Why would you do that. Poor Daisy...

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:48:20 2015 No.2327603

Repost for MARK

MARK.
Are you still here?
Got another bug for ya. preeety gamebraking

Spilled blood hurts monsters.
And they attack the monster spilling it - shoot demon with a shotgun, blood falls on a baron, baron attacks demon.

I think you messed shit up with explosions again.

This is GZDoom.

Simple check - walk right at the zombieguy shooting at ya. Players blood will hurt him, and he'll flinch in pain as he shoots at you.
Pinkies flinch as they eat you. Imps flinch as they charge you.

Man, those demos really don't like hurting you, do they?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:52:33 2015 No.2327605 File: 273 KB, 1024x687, Welp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:56:18 2015 No.2327610 >>2327605 a shiny turd that is

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:57:11 2015 No.2327613 >>2327610 Angels have to take their dogs for walks just like everybody else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:57:32 2015 No.2327614 File: 1.02 MB, 1366x768, Screenshot_Doom_20150403_215523.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what the hell are they looking at?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:58:33 2015 No.2327615 >>2327614 The moonlight, with just each other, hand in hand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:58:43 2015 No.2327616 >>2327614 Looks like the floaters are checking that Imp's ass out. Not sure what the Imp's looking at.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:02:03 2015 No.2327618 >>2327615 that's no moon, that's sandy petersen's bald head!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:04:05 2015 No.2327619 >>2327598 credits to 40oz, i can't think why no-one's thought to do it before actually... http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1350872

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:15:18 2015 No.2327627 >>2327615 Hands??

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:15:35 2015 No.2327629 Let's play Reelism on Zandro. Server name: :: [BE] Montreal :: Reelism:Shit just got Reel

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:19:29 2015 No.2327635 >>2327627 where's that stygian gym picture when you need it

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:35:58 2015 No.2327654
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What are your favourite remixes or remixers?

Gothic Sandy (my favourite)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfpGfB_gURQ

Oldskool Demon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4b5OtdcJAI

Blood Bath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiu5MvnFbHs

No Man is an Island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rq7aBmrrEs

Purgatory (This guy is doing the soundtrack for Doom 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ul3tLjEKM

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:40:22 2015 No.2327663 File: 101 KB, 700x2000, gain_elemental.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327635 this one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:41:55 2015 No.2327664 >>2327663 thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:54:01 2015 No.2327679 >>2327614 Nice hud. Where do I get it? Seems to be DRPG/DRLA compatible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:05:02 2015 No.2327694 File: 1.38 MB, 1366x768, the little pinky that lived.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327679 here http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48074

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:11:40 2015 No.2327701 >>2327592 Hey guys, using Zandronum. Is there any mods which really ramp up the enemy count and have lots of wide open spaces? Like a hundred or so enemies on screen at once? Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:12:57 2015 No.2327703 >>2327694 >filename hahaha that poor thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:20:57 2015 No.2327717 >>2327694 Thanks. Does anyone think DRLA would be possible to port over to Zand? I mean, we just ported Reelism so...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:25:08 2015 No.2327724 >>2327717 >I mean, we just ported Reelism so... that seems like pretty big news, is it not?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:26:01 2015 No.2327726 >>2327717 DRLA is a whole other beast. I doubt anyone is about to go through all of that code

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:30:03 2015 No.2327734 >>2327726 Well if we can port reelism and RO, if someone's got enough patience/persistance...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:37:45 2015 No.2327742 >>2327734 I think DRLA is far more complex due to the massive amounts of DECORATE for the several hundred weapons

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:54:55 2015 No.2327767 >>2327742 Well, small parts at a time. No need to tackle it all at once

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:00:07 2015 No.2327775 Hypothetically speaking, if we just got the basic of drla's modding system (Only core doom weapons to begin with, no assemblies/uniques/whatever), we should be okay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:15:51 2015 No.2327810 >>2327614 A question I'd rather not ask but do those floating balls have arseholes on their backs?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:16:26 2015 No.2327815 >>2327663 >gain elemental

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:17:42 2015 No.2327816 >>2327810 Demons gotta shit too son.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:25:53 2015 No.2327836 >>2327767 you need a zdoom beta to play doomrla as is. it probably isnt even possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:27:43 2015 No.2327839 File: 7 KB, 675x390, 1428179184.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327810 who can say? it might just be an exhaust pipe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:28:07 2015 No.2327841 >>2327810 A better question would be why do they have two holes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:29:41 2015 No.2327843 >>2327841 Demons gotta pee too son.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:29:47 2015 No.2327845 >>2327810 It expels gas, it's how they propel themselves

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:38:39 2015 No.2327863 File: 371 KB, 480x591, PHBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327839 >>2327845

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:42:29 2015 No.2327868 >>2327816 >>2327843 >>2327845 Clearly one expells gas and the other is a cloaca.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:43:53 2015 No.2327870 >>2327841 poon elemental

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:44:48 2015 No.2327874 >>2327868 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca but a cloaca is "one hole for everything" by definition

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:49:30 2015 No.2327881
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Hey, how does this look? Nevermind the inventory icons though, those are just thrown together.

Figure I need quite a bit more detailing and perhaps some buttons I haven't thought of yet, any suggestions for that is appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:50:53 2015 No.2327882 >>2327881 lmao are you making a doom point n click

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:54:46 2015 No.2327890 >>2327874 >implying a propulsion system has to be part of the intestinal, reproductive or urinary tracts

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:04:17 2015 No.2327903 >>2327881 Looks good, but it'll have trouble at lower resolution and/or non-widescreen displays.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:05:50 2015 No.2327906 >>2327882 Yes. Been working sporadically with it a long time. Mouse cursor, buttons and inventory system are fully operational and I'm working with the object interaction now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:27:14 2015 No.2327945 >>2325594 agreed

>>	Anon Sat Apr 4 18:10:35 2015 No.2327996 File: 195 KB, 500x643, 1427949646705.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Xweapons Holy shit why haven't I heard about this before? It's fucking amazing, especially with colourfulhell

>>	Anon Sat Apr 4 18:11:39 2015 No.2327997 File: 58 KB, 490x497, 1409636576420.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327996 Whoops wrong image

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 18:36:51 2015 No.2328021 >>2327654 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDIevuQfRKQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsMcndQuOmU

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 19:31:19 2015 No.2328091 >>2327996 >>2327997 This is the first time I've heard of that. Got a link? Googling gave me unreal stuff and funnily enough this thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 19:41:04 2015 No.2328101 >>2328091 It is X-Weapons on the ZDoom forums. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37254 Not a bad gameplay mod.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 19:45:05 2015 No.2328104 >>2328101 Oh hey I remember this, it was pretty coo- >came out in 2013 Jesus Christ I had no idea

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:05:27 2015 No.2328125 is there any up to date assembly list for doomrla?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:07:36 2015 No.2328127 >people thinking Buzzard might quit Doom he simply got a gf and real life has been keeping him busy, there's nothing to be worried about. also d44m is coming soon, he got to see the trailer at qcon and he is keeping track of it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:13:17 2015 No.2328135 >>2328127 who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:05:05 2015 No.2328193 >>2328127 Who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:09:57 2015 No.2328196 >>2328135 >>2328193 I should've figured that not everyone frequents the irc. I was talking about TGDDG

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:11:44 2015 No.2328197 >>2328127 Who is that pokemon and who is >people?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:14:58 2015 No.2328204 >>2328196 What?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:15:48 2015 No.2328207
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Is there anyway to get Doom to render like it does in DOS or Chocolate Doom in other source ports, mainly Zandronum and GZDoom?

I really like the original low fidelity present in the original game as well as some effects that are very different in other source ports, like pinkys actually turning pink when aggressed. The problem with chocolate doom for me is the low framerate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:17:12 2015 No.2328210 >>2328196 Should've figured that not everyone knows who the goddamn doomguy is either

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:19:05 2015 No.2328215 >>2328204 The goddamned Doomguy. Streams doom and is generally a cool guy

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:39:49 2015 No.2328246 >>2328207 I'm not sure what you mean but try ZDoom (rather than GZDoom) or software mode in Zandronum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:41:22 2015 No.2328249 >>2328207 Are you talking about software renderer mode?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:00:56 2015 No.2328282
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>>2328246
>>2328249

Here's a comparison, on the left is chocolate doom, the right is GZ.

I've tried using software rendering mode in Zandronum, it's closer to what I want but doesn't really look the same as Chocolate/DOS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:04:12 2015 No.2328294 >>2328282 Try ZDoom. What you're looking for is the pallete for darkness (I forget what it is actually called) instead of Zand/GZDoom's actual darkness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:11:26 2015 No.2328310 >>2328282 honestly not a big improvement

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:21:56 2015 No.2328320

>>2328282
The difference is that Chocolate Doom merely upscales the original 320x200 resolution to whatever you set it to, whereas G/ZDoom actually increases the rendering resolution. The only way to get that look in G/ZDoom would be to actually run the game at 320x200 or 320x240.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:30:31 2015 No.2328331

>>2328294
Tried ZDoom, it is a bit closer to what I want. I probably have to fiddle with it a bit more to get it the way I want.

>>2328310
I'd make a webm comparison instead if I knew how. It looks very different in motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEiAFJxwi48

This does a good job in comparing though.

>>2328320
I just ran both ZDoom and Chocolate Doom at the same resolution, 300x240. It seems you may be right. Is there really no way to make it upscale?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:31:06 2015 No.2328332 Is there any Doom mod where I can play against waves of demons in a survivalist way until I die? kinda like the Nazi Zombies mode in modern shooters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:31:34 2015 No.2328335 >>2328332 I think that was a game mode on skulltag way way fucking back when

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:33:06 2015 No.2328338 >>2328332 http://www.moddb.com/mods/alphadelta-invasion you might need zandronum for it to work right but yeah there's a lot of this shit out there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:37:17 2015 No.2328347 What is it with mappers and using D1's sky4, TNT's sky3, and to a lesser extent, Plutonia's Sky1? I've played at least a dozen mapsets that use these.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 23:40:32 2015 No.2328453 File: 181 KB, 500x484, PepeInsomnia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > easter > 4 holidays > play Doom non-stop Such is life...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 23:41:43 2015 No.2328456 File: 136 KB, 256x308, Shadow_Warrior_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's a good source port for this? I doubt Dosbox is the best way to play.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 23:49:17 2015 No.2328458 >>2328456 Well, there's JFShadow Warrior but I dunno how good the sourceport it is, and there's that "Shadow Warrior Redux" on Steam if you feel like spending some money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:23:43 2015 No.2328487 What finished project had the longest development time? I know Plutonia 2 was 8 years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:35:12 2015 No.2328498 >>2328487 Longest ACTIVE dev. time? Plutonia 2 I guess Longest INACTIVE should be Mordeth, naturally

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:38:04 2015 No.2328504 >>2328498 Mordeth isn't finished, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:40:00 2015 No.2328506 >>2328504 yer right, I read your post wrong, apologies

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:47:19 2015 No.2328508 >>2328453 Doom sucks. Do yourself a favor and enjoy your Easter, guy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:49:52 2015 No.2328510 File: 98 KB, 624x624, H9DUFW.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328508 >Doom sucks

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:50:41 2015 No.2328513 >>2328510 What, no. I love Doom. I'm bad at this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:07:06 2015 No.2328528 So can anyone help me figure out why the floor isn't an instakill when i play Push? Is it a DMflag i'm missing or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:10:31 2015 No.2328591 >>2328127 >>>/wsg/599218 !!! Haha sorry I'm joking of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:16:41 2015 No.2328597 >>2328528 Don't changemap to an area. map push01 Also make sure the mode is either DM or LMS. Co-op breaks things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:24:30 2015 No.2328601 >>2328487 >Plutonia 2 was 8 years I hope TNT2 and TNTR don't take that long

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:31:12 2015 No.2328608 File: 352 KB, 500x388, 1366963453132.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328601 >read that as "I hope NTR don't take that long" Welp. I'm off. Goodnight, /doom/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 03:15:53 2015 No.2328640 >>2328597 I've done exactly that and the floor doesn't instakill. It just makes the screen go red

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:04:31 2015 No.2328682 Are there any good ACS/Decorate tutorials, that cover creation of HUDs, scren effects and such? I have some programming skills, but no knowledge of ACS.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:06:34 2015 No.2328683 >>2328458 > and there's that "Shadow Warrior Redux" on Steam if you feel like spending some money. >tfw I got that for free when they were handing it out

kodi Sun Apr 5 04:21:02 2015 No.2328696

>>2328682
>http://zdoom.org/wiki/ACS
http://zdoom.org/wiki/A_quick_beginner%27s_guide_to_ACS

ACS huds are very simple. What you do is correctly include and define any image in your .wad file, and then use SetHudSize, SetFont, and HudMessage commands to display it. Basically you set your image as your "font" and send the letter "A" with that "font" to display it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:31:52 2015 No.2328698

>>2328696
What I meant by HUD, was actually inventory system, where every item is a combo of images.

I know the algorithm, and how to do it /theoreticaly/

Has anybody ever done a dinamyc on-screen inventory with slots and stuff, not like Diablo, where every item can occupy several slots, but with one item per slot?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:34:30 2015 No.2328701 >>2328696 basically put that guide is too minimal and simple. i need a guide onto more advanced tricks and techniques. every language has some unconventional solution and quirks, and I cant seem to find anything on that quirks for ACS

>>	kodi Sun Apr 5 04:39:27 2015 No.2328705 File: 2.74 MB, 320x240, Sequence 01_2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328698 oh right, yeah I've actually made one. At least mostly. Those numbers represent items.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:47:17 2015 No.2328710

>>2328705
Looks almost exactly like what I want - I want it on main screenspace and in a different grid, and it would be several images combined and scrolling, and then my head explodes from its possible complexity and how much would it strain poor ZDoom

Is this thing released? Can I look at the code?

>>	kodi Sun Apr 5 05:02:47 2015 No.2328715 >Is this thing released? Not for some time. > Can I look at the code? I'll see if I can gather the parts you need. It only supports picking up, displaying and scrolling through items (numbers) as of now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 05:26:35 2015 No.2328728 File: 346 KB, 2197x1463, bear.bearpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bear bear bear, bear bear BEARS! Server: :: [BE] Montreal :: bears Password: no password :D

kodi Sun Apr 5 05:38:26 2015 No.2328736

>>2328710
Alright, now keep in mind this is an ancient build where the code is loaded with nonsensical decisions and variable names, but you might just find some inspiration. I'm self taught in ACS and can't write a line of code in anything else...

filedropper.co(remove this, spam filter)m/inventoryforanon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 05:56:12 2015 No.2328746 File: 83 KB, 467x700, 1420410282819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328728 Bears? What the fuck is this sh- Oh. bears.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:14:57 2015 No.2328754 >>2328127 >>2328196 Oh, neat. I need them streams man.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:43:08 2015 No.2328762

>>2328715
>>2328736
Thank you!
I've been doing something with procedural item gneration (Borderlands 2 weapon mod), so far only on conceptual level, looking for what's possible and what isn't. I've pretty much figured how to combine gun parts together on screen to get an actual working weapon.

The item generation will have to look something like this:
1) Player has loads of "token" items for each slot, like Slot12_var1..., ammount of items determines value. ACS determines which slot player looks at, reads ammount of items and shows information accordingly (plastering together images of weapon parts), while calculating the stats, and shoving those into different global variables. Actual algorithm is ridiculously long.

2) The generated item is summoned into the world as actor, and then said actor's inventory is filled with "var1,var2..." items according to the procedure. When player targets the generated item, the item gives him basic "varX" tokens, which is shown on screen (player examines weapon).

When player takes weapon, he has to activate actor, which will throw "Var" items around and transform them into slotted token items.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:50:46 2015 No.2328764

>>2328762
When player equips a weapon, he actually just switches "active slot", which actually removes all his weapons, and gives him one of the "archetype" weapons with variable parameters and sprites. Sprites are combo of regular and flash state, precombined through textures.lump, and the base sprite name, as well as weapon parameters are determined by ACS depending on ammounts of "var" items in the selected slot.

In fact, player will always have only one weapon, but it gets removed/transformed/given back on switch.

THe weapon archetype itself has a lot of jumps that depnd on previously established global vars to give it variable fire rate and reloading speeds.

So far Im figuring the algorithms Ill need, as well as experimenting with actual sprites from the game that will go into making the animations. I dunno how they will look like (probbsbly wonky due to being limited to 15 stills per part) I'll try to present some maually-made ones some day soon, and then ry to remake them through TEXTURES lump and decorate

kodi Sun Apr 5 06:57:25 2015 No.2328772

>>2328762
That's extremely interesting, and I'd love to take a peek at your code some time.

Speaking of borderlands, I'm working on a script that finds the screen coordinates for any actor you're currently looking at, which could be used to display health bars/numbers that hover over the heads of monsters. The big problem is that it works strangely in OpenGL mode due to the simplified projection model.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 07:32:35 2015 No.2328787 Is there a de facto sound replacement mod yet? I lost the one I was using and can't remember the zdoom thread it was buried in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 07:35:16 2015 No.2328790 >>2328787 Perkristian's, probably.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 07:56:24 2015 No.2328792 >>2328790 Not him, but that doesnt even feel finished. Too many sounds that didnt get the HQ treatment. Some sounds also sound off without the distortion.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 08:36:20 2015 No.2328819

>>2328772
Floating bars were already made by somebody and posted in webm here, 6 or 7 threads ago.
In BDL, however, bars do not float, and instead are shown above player's crosshair, which is also easier to do in ACS, and something like that already been done in several mods, most recent of which is ProDOOMER (ZDoom forums), which also has floating damage numbers, just like Borderlands.

>>	Pepino !!DxeOyDprETK Sun Apr 5 09:12:13 2015 No.2328846 File: 75 KB, 640x384, Screenshot_Doom_20150405_082704.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw making a beta uprising doom wad

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:17:26 2015 No.2328850 File: 830 KB, 500x375, DAMN DOG.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328846 I hope you die.

>>	Pepino !!DxeOyDprETK Sun Apr 5 09:19:00 2015 No.2328851 File: 64 KB, 640x384, 1428239940228.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328850 Guess what the health bonuses are? Red pills The armor bonuses are the skulls of normies

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:19:48 2015 No.2328852 File: 3 KB, 224x158, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328846 >C:/ >HP_OWNER >widescreen

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:21:17 2015 No.2328854 >>2328851 Nice.

>>	Pepino !!DxeOyDprETK Sun Apr 5 09:23:58 2015 No.2328858 File: 2 KB, 300x363, LARGEREE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328852 I'm on my windows xp system, sorry

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:24:18 2015 No.2328859 >>2328846 >screenshotting that many times >pikcing the one that has the "captured" text faget

>>	Pepino !!DxeOyDprETK Sun Apr 5 09:27:52 2015 No.2328862 File: 2 KB, 289x327, STFST31LARGE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328859 pls no bully

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:30:32 2015 No.2328865 File: 52 KB, 499x499, 1411530998216.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328846

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:34:39 2015 No.2328872 >>2328846 Beta peashooters shoulda shoot blood. the more blood beta spilled, the more blood it will shoot

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:38:15 2015 No.2328881 >>2328858 >windows xp

>>	Pepino !!DxeOyDprETK Sun Apr 5 09:42:49 2015 No.2328890 File: 58 KB, 960x591, what is he licking.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328872 Ooo I like it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:50:14 2015 No.2328896 File: 351 KB, 1024x768, 1428241814360.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:50:36 2015 No.2328897 File: 24 KB, 722x349, 1417610139067.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2328851 >red pills >not GBP that you can use to buy tendies from the ingame store

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:50:53 2015 No.2328898
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I jumped on the Reelism Zandro server and it was wonky, the player wasn't being detected properly until I suicided and respawned. Then I tried firing a super weapon and it crashed.

Russian Overkill worked a lot better on Zandy, thought the mapset choice was far too tame for Russian Overkill. Maybe something like Dark Tartarus might be more fitting.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 10:21:31 2015 No.2328942
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>>2327881
...And here it is in-game and ~50% clickable.
Time to make the interaction commands actually work and then to upgrade the inventory to log more than a single number in each slot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 10:57:32 2015 No.2328986 >>2327881 OMG FTW THATS WHAT I NEED FOR MY INVENTORY SYSTEM HOW DID I MISSED IT

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:03:17 2015 No.2328996 >Playing through Doom 64 >So far the game seems easy, and the guns are even more powerful that on Doom 1/2, except the super shotgun, for some reason >Still play it like a scared cat That music and graphics, man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:09:47 2015 No.2329006 >>2328996 I know right. The demons in particular did it for me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:09:52 2015 No.2329007 Thoughts on Tyson maps? They're good fun, in my books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:27:40 2015 No.2329038 File: 221 KB, 825x589, Happy thanksgibbing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HAPPY EASTER /DOOM/

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:46:56 2015 No.2329064 >>2329038 >Glass isn't a bonus health 015-33-6+1*2-5/10

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:53:44 2015 No.2329073 >>2329064 >015-33-6+1*2-5/10 >final result is -13 and a half wat

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:58:19 2015 No.2329078 >>2329064 what this nigga >>2329073 said

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:58:27 2015 No.2329079 >>2329064 I think you're missing some wobbly lines in there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:01:31 2015 No.2329084 >>2329073 >>2329078 >>2329079 I was just putting in random numbers and signs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:13:51 2015 No.2329101 >>2327836 We said the same thing about RO and Reelism...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:19:49 2015 No.2329112 >>2328986 Wait, so it's the mouse cursor + clickable icons thing you need rather than the actual inventory system? Because the latter is literally the same in that one as in the file sent you, minus the graphics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 13:16:57 2015 No.2329165 >>2329101 Yeah, and it still holds up for DRLA.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 13:34:28 2015 No.2329187 >>2329165 "we won't be able to port RO to z&" >we port RO to Z& "we won't be able to port reelism to Z&" >we port reelism to Z& "we won't be able to port RLA to Z&" >????

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 13:45:58 2015 No.2329196 >>2329187 >people were mistaken about something, therefore they were mistaken about all the things

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 13:56:16 2015 No.2329208

>>2329112
I'd want that too, since that would allow to make pointnclick inventory interface.

Unfortunately, my HDD died taking away all the progress and most of the rips I made, and the laptops I'm on now is unable to run BDL2 at reliable rate (about 11-14 fps). I stil might be able to rip visuals of the parts I need, but that would take way longer =\

The HDD was a part of my mainrame, which I had on warranty as a whole, and if I want it to be repared through warranty I have to hand it down with everything else, not just HDD. This is all so stupid. Today is one of the worst days I had in quite some time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 13:58:12 2015 No.2329212 >>2329187 >implying Z& will get up to date with current ZDoom features any time soon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 13:59:03 2015 No.2329213 File: 67 KB, 132x146, huge ducks big.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2329038 you too m8! Maybe I can get back to spriting now that I have some time off.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:09:42 2015 No.2329220
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>Unfortunately, my HDD died
HDD crashes are the most horrible things in the world. It can really dent one's motivation. It's so damn important to make backups on external units or cloud storage, but I don't even do it myself. Hang in there bud.

Here's a basic mouse cursor. Puke 99 to use it.

#include "zcommon.acs"
int CursorMode = 0 ;
int mouseposx ;
int mouseposy ;
int mousesensx = 60;
int mousesensy = 34;
//this is for widescreen - change mousesensy to 45 for 4:3 resolutions
int fixedscreenwidth ;
int fixedscreenheight ;

script "initialize" enter
{
FixedScreenWidth = ((Getcvar("vid_defwidth")) * 1.0);
FixedScreenHeight = ((Getcvar("vid_defheight")) * 1.0);
}

script 99 (void)
{
if (CursorMode == 0)
{
CursorMode = 1;
acs_namedexecute ("inmenu", 0);
SetPlayerProperty(0, 1, PROP_totallyFROZEN);
}
else
{
CursorMode = 0 ;
mouseposx = ((FixedScreenWidth / 2 ) / 65536) ;
mouseposy = ((FixedScreenHeight / 2 ) / 65536) ;
SetPlayerProperty(0, 0, PROP_totallyFROZEN);
acs_namedexecute ("inmenu", 0);
}
}
script "inmenu" (void)
{
mouseposx = ((FixedScreenWidth / 2 ) / 65536) ;
mouseposy = ((FixedScreenHeight / 2 ) / 65536) ;
while (true)
{
Sethudsize ((Getcvar("vid_defwidth")), (Getcvar("vid_defheight")), false);
delay(1);
if (CursorMode==1)
{
int mouseyaw = GetPlayerInput (-1, INPUT_yaw);
mouseyaw /= mousesensx;
mouseposx -= mouseyaw ;
int mousepitch = GetPlayerInput (-1, INPUT_pitch);
mousepitch /= mousesensy;
mouseposy -= mousepitch ;
SetFont("bigfont");
hudmessage(s:"A"; HUDMSG_FADEOUT, 3, cr_untranslated, (mouseposx * 1.0), (mouseposy * 1.0) , 1);
}
}
}

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:10:03 2015 No.2329221 >>2329101 >>2329187 who is "we", anyway? are the original authors involved?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:11:52 2015 No.2329224 >>2329208 >my HDD died everytime man when will people learn to make some backups

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:27:46 2015 No.2329246 How do you guys feel about saving mid-level?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:32:11 2015 No.2329256 >>2329224 If i had the money for another HDD, that woud'nt be an issue. However with my 8$ a day it sort of is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:36:06 2015 No.2329261 >>2329246 Depends on the level. I don't do it vanilla maps.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:38:31 2015 No.2329264

>>2329246
fine for learning a level or playing leisurely or through a really huge map like Deus Vult.

however i don't consider i've beaten a level properly until i've done it 100% from a pistol start without saves.

these are my own standards to which i hold myself. others may hold themselves to different ones and that is fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 14:52:17 2015 No.2329282 >>2329246 Depends on the level but usually I'll savescum the fuck out of anything I'm playing for the first time. Then I git gud until I no longer feel the need.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:03:56 2015 No.2329287 File: 137 KB, 1440x1800, 1353183.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1353183 Ribbiks is at it again

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:22:51 2015 No.2329305 >>2329287 man that guy really likes purple

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:36:49 2015 No.2329321 >>2329305 Purple is a nice color.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:46:08 2015 No.2329335 Could I please get a link to NERVE.WAD?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:47:32 2015 No.2329337 File: 6 KB, 820x336, 1428263183.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2329321 imagine if indigo had actually been a shade of purple, instead of grey

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:50:54 2015 No.2329343 how the fuck am i supposed to naviage around in T.N.T. jesus fuck like almost half way through the game and these levels are confusing as shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:51:11 2015 No.2329345 >>2329287 can't wait for more trial and error

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:53:53 2015 No.2329349 >>2329335 i think there's one in iwads.zip from our faq

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:58:12 2015 No.2329356 >>2329335 >>2329349 Nevermind. Found it here: http://doom4ever.free.fr/download_wads.htm Hashes did match.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 17:06:33 2015 No.2329447 File: 849 KB, 825x589, Fixed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2329064 For you anon. Happy Easter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 17:09:31 2015 No.2329451 >>2329447 10/10, thanks.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 17:25:10 2015 No.2329469
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>Russian Overkill can be played on zandronum now
>It lacks stuff of course but you can still cause massive explosions
>Remember about the Skulltag data+actors
>Idea
>Spread rune Ion Storm Laser
>MFW

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 18:08:08 2015 No.2329512 >>2328898 Is there anywhere I can find a balanced version of Russian Overkill, I like the weapons but even the msot insane slaughtermaps are made easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 18:13:19 2015 No.2329517 >>2329512 Have you tried jacking up the difficulty?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 18:25:51 2015 No.2329529 >>2329512 Raise the difficulty+ColorfulHell

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 18:38:12 2015 No.2329536 Am I suppose to use my fists to get my first weapon with RO? Cause the pistol disappears when I fire.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 18:42:03 2015 No.2329542 >>2329536 Nevermind. Some other shit I had on autoload that fucked it up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 20:09:26 2015 No.2329683 File: 2.58 MB, 1543x2898, 1423224643608.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At what point can Mouselook be considered game breaking? Pic not related

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 20:31:21 2015 No.2329704

>>2329683
Maps with long sightlines that autoaim stops accounting for. Some maps like Map15 Industrial Zone come to mind, sniping monsters across the lava river from the spawn. Not so much gamebreaking as just cheating a bit.

Also when you can walk up to a ledge a monster is on, point straight up and shoot it from there when otherwise you'd both have to expose yourselves to fire to hit each other.

Using freelook to rocket hop up a ledge in a vanilla map.

Nothing to flip shit over but pretty cheap moves to pull off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 21:12:34 2015 No.2329742 File: 23 KB, 640x480, h61eyeTJW1r2g7mto1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2329208 >>2329220 >tfw just backed up my resources and shit I've learned my lesson

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 21:15:19 2015 No.2329745

>>2329704
>Maps with long sightlines that autoaim stops accounting for.
I'm guilty of abusing this

I stopped doing the second one long time ago when i started feeling it wasn't fair at all. Never did the third one since it's practically jumping, and jumping in vanilla doom is a sin for me.

Yeah i know but i just want the most genuine doom experience possible while using mouselook, and GZDoom

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 21:19:33 2015 No.2329749

>>2329704
Rocket launcher in general becomes much better in tight spaces / against flying enemies.

Firing at an enemy behind meatshields when you're at a higher ground (plataform surrounded by pinkies, aiming directly at archvile behind them).

Shootable switches too obviously.

IMO only rocket jumping and shooting switches you're not supposed to yet are gamebreaking, everything else just makes combat slightly easier, but then again some people love to ruin their own fun by squirming through bars to skip 99% of a level, so I dont see why sequence breaking by exploding your knees is so bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:28:28 2015 No.2329809 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JrrrQA-PNQ Anyone knows the name of this .wad?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:49:50 2015 No.2329835 >>2329749 Yeah, the only thing more niche than the RL is the BFG. Freelook makes the RL almost as versatile as an SSG.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:03:24 2015 No.2329858 >>2328320 Wish it had some kind of pixellation shader or something so you can have the benefits of a modern display while keeping the oldschool look and feel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:17:41 2015 No.2329872 I dont even use freelook myself. I only use mouse for turning. I just don't find freelook necessary. And it looks weird in software mode.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:20:44 2015 No.2329880 File: 113 KB, 200x200, DICK KICKEM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2329809 It's in the name of the video, buttmunch. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47814&sid=a56acd29e2ae539c3662526e8da8c175 spoiler: It's not very good

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:24:10 2015 No.2329886 >>2329880 And what if he meant the mapset, dorktwinkle?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:25:58 2015 No.2329892 >>2329809 Been a while since I played Wonderful Doom. Deecent megawad, despite it being remakes. That gameplay mod looks eh, though

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:33:12 2015 No.2329903 >>2329880 Was talking about the maps. >>2329892 Thanks, yeah I tought the same, too, only the maps used caught my attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 00:38:51 2015 No.2329978 There we go. I've fixed DemonSteele for Z2.0, I think. Server's up now if you want to weeb along with others. :: [BE] Montreal :: DemonSteele - Come With Me To Anime World

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 01:10:33 2015 No.2330012 So will we ever see a wad called "Where the fuck is it?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 01:32:56 2015 No.2330018 >>2330012 No.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 02:31:13 2015 No.2330079

>>2329683
>doom 2 reloaded
>e1 is decent, but nothing memorable. Maps 01 and 07 are crap.
>e2 is fantastic. Easily the best levels of the megawad.
>e3 is mixed bag. Some good levels, and some duds.

E2 is something I could highly recommend. but the rest of D2R, not so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:07:24 2015 No.2330101 >>2329683 >tfw I can't play Doom without Mouselook I'm sorry for being so casul, Not using mouselook bothers me, and turning with keys doesn't feel any where near right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:09:45 2015 No.2330106 >>2330101 As long as you have vertical aiming turned off it's just fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:11:35 2015 No.2330109 File: 13 KB, 234x232, lifechoices.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2330106 I'm so sorry

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 04:37:38 2015 No.2330160 >>2330079 Wouldn't say Map01 is crap. But its certainly weak for Map01 standards. Not a good idea to start the first map inside a pointless room. And the shotgun a bit later than I would like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 04:48:30 2015 No.2330162 File: 645 KB, 1600x900, 1358435.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1358435 Mechadon

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 06:34:29 2015 No.2330239
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>>2330162
I normally only stick to 4chan but I thought this was amusing. Who would read those books all the way at the top of the pillar, a Cacodemon? He doesn't even have any arms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 06:46:04 2015 No.2330245 File: 175 KB, 1280x1152, scrap848_a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2330239 Pain elementals often find work as librarians in the cramped, twisty mazes of Hell's halls of hellish learning.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 07:19:02 2015 No.2330283
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Anyone else get slightly depressed when playing Doom?
Haven't played in years so I started playing through Ultimate again yesterday, and I got sad because after all these years nothing comes close to Doom. I mean my personal favorite is Unreal, but Doom is just the best, and it's sad how the genre has been taking steps backwards ever since its release.
This maybe a bit extreme, but I always get that feel when I play Doom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 07:23:55 2015 No.2330290 >>2330283 There will always be megawads, old and new. Enough gameplay to last a lifetime really.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 07:28:46 2015 No.2330296
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I love how the Doom 64 Imp looks and hell the Pain Elemental looks great as well, but what were they thinking with the Cacodemon? It just looks as silly as the Imp does in vanilla Doom.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 08:08:10 2015 No.2330335
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>>2330296
Cacos and PEs switching colour schemes felt like a dumb move, and giving the PE a bright red horse mane just made me question how they thought of that. The caco didn't need an eye that size, either.

The rest of the redesigns besides the PE, Caco, and fatso are great, though. Arachs look more like the walking tanks they are. Shame the zombies are basically just palette swaps.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 08:21:28 2015 No.2330343

>>2330335
I never noticed the mane on the Pain Elemental, does look a bit silly, but I do dig the double mouths. The way the mouths come out makes it looks so alien and hellish at the same time, possibly some sort of pathogen.

I am happy that they didn't include some of the other monsters due to how the game is designed, it is pretty cramped and trying to get a better position on a Revenant would be a pain in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 08:45:03 2015 No.2330362 File: 155 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150406_084320.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just started playing doom yesterday, so excuse my newfaggotry Is there a reason I'm stuck on this static image, or is it a bug?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 08:45:50 2015 No.2330363 >>2330362 You just beat episode 2, press Esc and open up episode 3, Inferno.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 08:47:06 2015 No.2330365 >>2330363 Ah, okay. I actually did that but figured I might have missed something by doing it. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 08:51:18 2015 No.2330372 >>2330283 >Anyone else get slightly depressed when playing Doom? not at all, not ever, not in the slightest. i am thankful every day that for me the lunacy of the modern industry is merely a distant, muffled noise, floating in from far away.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:07:38 2015 No.2330392

I have a question about Hell Revealed 2 - is level 10 (Base Blaze) supposed to be a pistol start? It feels much easier than the previous levels and it gives you weapons from shotgun to rocket launcher. Level 11 then gives you a plasma. The fights in both these levels would be pretty trivial with a BFG. However, the game let me start with all the stuff I had in level 9. Is that perhaps due to some bug in ZDoom or due to an outdated ZDoom version?

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:18:31 2015 No.2330402

>>2330392
There are no "death exits/forced pistol starts" of any kind in HR2.

And map10 is an awful map. The "lol that was too easy" beginning falls flat on its face, when the stuff after the fake exit isn't even hard.

It's Interesting considering the other two maps from the same author (17, 22) are actually good, despite being more Plutonia in vein than Hell Revealed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:27:32 2015 No.2330410 File: 30 KB, 640x480, 1428326806.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2330402 >the stuff after the fake exit isn't even hard. i just got jumped by 6 revenants in a room about twice the size of the e1m1 exit :(

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:32:41 2015 No.2330417

>>2330410
Theres still a moderate challenge in the level. But for Hell Revealed standards, the spike in difficulty that was supposed to happen after the fake exit just wasnt there.

Map32 in Scythe 2 did the fake exit thing a lot better, since before it, its a typical easy map01, and after it, becomes a full on slaughter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:41:01 2015 No.2330425 >>2330109 What game is that from?

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:47:42 2015 No.2330432

>>2330402
>There are no "death exits/forced pistol starts" of any kind in HR2.
i thought there was one? or am i thinking of a different megawad?

>>2330417
>Map32 in Scythe 2 did the fake exit thing a lot better
agreed, plus it was Warrens' "extended copy of a previous map" gimmick crossed with Go 2 It's "remake predecessor's MAP01" but Scythe-specific. if hr2m10 was a tribute to anything it wasn't clear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:53:27 2015 No.2330438 >>2330432 >or am i thinking of a different megawad? You are probably thinking of the Scythes, Speed of Doom, and Resurgence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:57:16 2015 No.2330440 File: 176 KB, 320x240, hr2m14end.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2330438 no, i checked -- seems hr2 map14 has a death exit

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:01:11 2015 No.2330445 >>2330438 >>2330440 (me) ...except it's a sector type 11 that doesn't force a pistol start of the next map. your first post explicitly mentioned forced pistol starts. oh boy is my face red.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:02:08 2015 No.2330448 >>2330440 Thats not a death exit. Thats a trap. You can avoid it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:06:15 2015 No.2330451 >>2330448 Acually no. There are indeed unavoidable barrels. However. After multiple attempts through the exit, none of them killed me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:06:28 2015 No.2330452 >>2330448 hmm, curious. how can it be avoided? i see there is another exit, but it seems only available in deathmatch, unless i have missed something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:09:05 2015 No.2330458 >>2330452 read >>2330451 Its still not a death exit. It seems to be more about making you have low health.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:09:58 2015 No.2330459

>>2330451
>After multiple attempts through the exit, none of them killed me.
yes, as you undoubtably know, a type 11 exit damage sector effectively confers immortality but the game exits if your health drops to 10 or less.

i thought you had a clever trick to avoid the barrels and exit damage sector entirely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:15:03 2015 No.2330463 File: 99 KB, 1024x768, doomsdayengyne.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327592 Still no models?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:15:20 2015 No.2330464 >>2330459 >i thought you had a clever trick to avoid the barrels and exit damage sector entirely. I literally just said in the very post you replied to that I was wrong about avoiding them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:17:15 2015 No.2330465 >>2330463 It amazes me to this day that doomsday engine still exists. What with it being one of the only non-purist source ports to not even have boom support.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:25:44 2015 No.2330473 So I'm playing Vile Flesh. Was this the right way to load it? gzdoom.exe -deh VILE.DEH -file VILE.WAD Also, why under MISC options in zdoom is "Load .DEX/.BEX lumps" set to never by default? Wouldn't that break maps that rely on the hacks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:31:35 2015 No.2330476 >>2330463 Models for DooM look fucking hideous.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:43:33 2015 No.2330493 I wish we had Doom..but with updated 2D graphics

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:49:00 2015 No.2330502 >>2330440 Thats a damaging sector exit. You don't die from those. It just reduces you to really low health, and then exits once you have less than 11% health.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 11:00:22 2015 No.2330513 What it feels like to play Russian Overkill online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjiXL7Y60do

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 11:27:13 2015 No.2330548 >>2330464 i do beg your pardon >>2330502 indeed, thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 11:41:53 2015 No.2330584 >>2330513 hahaha nuts

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:08:03 2015 No.2330635

>>2330465
>What with it being one of the only non-purist source ports to not even have boom support.

This part confuses me. Why do they continue to insist on not supporting boom format? I could understand if we were still in the late 90's/early 00's, where boom maps were rare. But boom format maps have been on the rise since the mid-00's. Hell, MBF format wads have been slowly becoming a thing, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:20:52 2015 No.2330651 >>2330635 probably seen as a lot of work for volunteer devs with other priorities

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:35:18 2015 No.2330691 >>2330476 i really wish someone did voxel monsters, i'm sure it would look perfect >>2330493 that too, something hand drawn or new sprites based off the artworks, not upscales of the original ones

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:36:42 2015 No.2330697 >>2330493 what's fucking wrong with the sprites?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:47:43 2015 No.2330729 Are there any notable mods for Doom 64? Weapon mods?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:51:49 2015 No.2330740 >>2330729 Nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:54:18 2015 No.2330750 >>2330729 >for Doom 64 there's a bunch of maps for D64EX laying around that people haven't tested at all. someone is doing a few levels from Plutonia for D64EX too that's about it

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 12:56:41 2015 No.2330752 If Eternity had a better midi player, and full OpenGL (complete with software hackery trick fixes), I would literally stop using PrBoom+ for my traditionalist needs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 13:01:56 2015 No.2330762 File: 124 KB, 609x607, 1383193301369.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2327815 had a chortle m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 13:15:03 2015 No.2330782 >>2330752 Why?

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 13:24:29 2015 No.2330794

>>2330782
Eternity has more features than PrBoom+, while still keeping a classic feel. Has mapinfo support, and I believe theres plans for UDMF support.

But Eternity uses SDL midi player which is buggy as hell on modern OSes. It completely lacks a full OpenGL renderer mode. And forgot to mention, but theres also no support for PNGs. If these were remedied, then the only thing PrBoom+ would really have over Eternity is that its better for recording/playing demos and playtesting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 13:26:05 2015 No.2330801 >>2330794 >Has mapinfo support, and I believe theres plans for UDMF support. This is on top of Eternity's own format, btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 13:38:17 2015 No.2330824 What version of Duke Nukem 3D is worth buying?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 13:42:03 2015 No.2330834 >>2330824 Megaton from Steam because it has official add-ons, but use eduke32. GOG is just original Douk Atomic Edition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 13:59:31 2015 No.2330879 File: 57 KB, 250x250, 1427397092725.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2330101 >>2330106 >>2330109 holy shit people play doom using keyboard only?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:03:01 2015 No.2330885 >>2330879 We used to call keyboard-only players a "tractor drivers" in Russia

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:06:54 2015 No.2330893 >>2330885 lol. some people did get really good at keyboard fps though, Greg Kirkpatrick from Bungie could supposedly whip ass with it in Marathon multiplayer...and Marathon was designed for mouselook.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:13:54 2015 No.2330908 >>2330283 No. I will however, be depressed when it comes to the fact that there will never be a game like the original planetside.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:22:42 2015 No.2330920

>>2330893
Well, they used to say that controller does not matters, only skill matters, and then the Quake came, and they all gone extinct like dinosaurs. Now, people like to say that gamepads are perfectly fine for FPS games, yet every attempt of cross-platform multiplayer ended with PC players wiping the floor with everyone else, regardless of skill

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:24:18 2015 No.2330924

>>2330879 >>2330885 >>2330893
heh.

http://doomedsda.us/player34lmps.html (Ryback)
http://doomedsda.us/player229lmps.html (vdgg)
http://doomedsda.us/player305lmps.html (SAV88)

to the best of my knowledge, these guys are all keyboarders. they put me to shame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:30:02 2015 No.2330936 >>2330106 >>2330879 >>2330924 Guy who just started playing doom yesterday here X-axis only mouselook is fine, right? Not a filthy casul or anything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:33:28 2015 No.2330943 >>2330936 Yes. That's how Romero played. Welcome to the game, enjoy your stay.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:33:37 2015 No.2330945

>>2330936
Really just play the game however the fuck you want. Most modern maps are designed with mouse-speed and strafing in mind anyway. Although it's worth mentioning that playing with full freelook and autoaim off bends the gameplay somewhat. See >>2329704
I personally play most maps with X-axis mouselook only. Although for some reason I prefer freelook with certain gameplay wads like BD and Demonsteele.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:35:22 2015 No.2330946 >>2330943 >>2330945 Alright sweet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:36:22 2015 No.2330948 >>2330936 turning with the mouse is fine, yes. please don't confuse the issue by calling mouseturning "mouselook", though, please use that term for looking up and down with the mouse (also known as "freelook").

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:38:58 2015 No.2330952 >>2330945 >Although for some reason I prefer freelook with certain gameplay wads like BD and Demonsteele. probably because those mods are designed with freelook in mind, duh

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:45:12 2015 No.2330964 >>2330952 >are designed with freelook in mind, duh I really like that demonsteele has accommodations for non freelook, though That norecoil option is wonderful, and with autoaim on the shotgun flattens like a normal shotgun

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 15:30:27 2015 No.2331026 >>2330750 How would they do that? Are they just going to use Doom 2's Chaingunners, Revenants, and Archviles?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 16:36:32 2015 No.2331128 >>2330936 not using mouselook makes the game like 1% harder, it really doesn't matter

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 17:53:16 2015 No.2331260 File: 22 KB, 346x367, voxels.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2330691 >i'm sure everything would look perfect

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 17:54:23 2015 No.2331262 Is it possible to make 2.5D shooter with vector images used as sprites?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 17:55:09 2015 No.2331264 >>2330691 >>2331260 There's also the major problem of being unable to animate voxels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 18:13:02 2015 No.2331301 What are some good maps to play for the first time using Metroid Dreadnought?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 18:17:55 2015 No.2331310 >>2331301 Equinox Back to Saturn X Vrack UAC Ultra Zaero

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 19:52:17 2015 No.2331454 >>2330879 I play Doom a lot on my laptop, I also don't like the combination with a portable mouse, so I just go the classic binds (arrow keys + spacebar + ctrl)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 21:34:12 2015 No.2331587 >>2330513 >it can be far worse than this TAT41 has skulltag rune spawners, get people to grab a spread then spam hindenburgs and see what happens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 21:36:54 2015 No.2331593 >>2331587 If that happened in a 64-player DM, Humanity would reset.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:36:02 2015 No.2331687 >>2331587 >and see what happens. Russian Overkill banned from Best-Ever, that's what's gonna happen

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 23:21:46 2015 No.2331758 >>2330879 Plenty of skilled speedrunners do. I actually used to be keyboard only, myself, back when all I knew was the shittiness that is Doom 95. I use mouse for turning nowadays, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 00:15:38 2015 No.2331846 >>2329469 Why would you not make a webm of this? Lel

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 00:20:49 2015 No.2331850

>>2330463
>>2330476
>>2330465
so, we have a massive modding community, almost more modders than players, we have some extremely talented people lurking these very threads, Doom is an extremely versatile and flexible engine, with literally dozens of high quality source ports...

WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE NO DECENT MODEL PACKS?!

I like sprites too - but the Z-Axis is "tortured", at best... Voxels would be fantastic, but those can be hard, so why can't we make a decent model pack? Seriously, this would be amazing for the experience on more vertical mapsets.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 00:23:56 2015 No.2331858

>>2331850
>WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE NO DECENT MODEL PACKS?!

Because the focus in the Doom modding community is, and will always be, the maps

Also, models won't immediately make people think about doing maps with vertical experience in mind

Also, you sound like you want people to do the work for you

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 00:28:01 2015 No.2331865
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>>2331850
It's plenty easier to sprite than it is to model. Especially high-quality models with high quality animations. That's a whole different area of specialization than making maps, writing code or drawing spritework.

Plus, almost everyone asked thinks models, no matter how fancily crafted (mind we're limited to Quake 2 and Quake 3 formats), look out of place in PC Doom.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 00:30:15 2015 No.2331867
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I got a copy of Doom64 with a pretty crappy label, so I decided to replace it. I got it but I figured it was way too plain, so I made it more like the boxart with my editing skills. Any thoughts?

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 00:56:21 2015 No.2331915

>>2331850
A decent model pack will never look good, unless the game gets remade on a newer engine with modern effects, and has a team of professionals doing the models and level design.

No source port is even close to powerful enough to support models that look modern. The best we can do is Quake 2/3 quality models. And there's no way to even make the models fit within Doom's aesthetic. This is why theres no model packs worth anyones time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 01:49:09 2015 No.2331996 http://a.pomf.se/zafeot.webm Heh. iSpook's doing lame things he'll probably never finish again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 02:18:05 2015 No.2332021 >>2331867 a shame your scissor skills are that of a palsy child

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 02:23:54 2015 No.2332029 File: 375 KB, 116x128, 1404325270072.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2331996 Finally - an assault rifle using alt-fire for underbarrel grenade launcher instead of iron sights.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 02:33:12 2015 No.2332039 >>2331996 the GL looks weak, especially as you have exploding rounds (?) i hope you'll give it a bit more oomph

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 02:39:23 2015 No.2332043 >>2332039 Yeah Primary fire's Demo-ammo shots, Alt-fire's a cluster grenade. It does look a bit weak, but it takes 19-ish shots to down a cyber-demon in it's current level of tinkering (Where Primary fire take 122-ish shots to Down a Cyber-demon.)

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:06:44 2015 No.2332073

>>2331996
>>2332029

i think if you were limited to 2 or 3 weapons, like in some console thing, then combining two weapons by using altfire makes some kind of sense.

but in doom, where you can carry anything up to 9 even in the vanilla game, weapons with two different functions seem kind of unfitting.

i don't know, maybe i'm overthinking it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:11:22 2015 No.2332076 >>2331850 >almost more modders than players i doubt this somehow

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:14:31 2015 No.2332080 >>2332076 well unless he means on /vr/ where everyone and his dog is coughing out halfassed zandronum gameplay mods by the spitoonful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:17:14 2015 No.2332085 >>2332073 You see, while you technically have 10 keys (0-9) for weapons, it is inconvenient to press number keys after 5, and weapon change through mouse wheel is not fast enough. So I would prefer as much weapons crammed into first 5 keys as possible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:18:59 2015 No.2332086 >>2332085 ah. i suppose that makes sense. in fact, yes, you have a good point there. carry on !

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:21:15 2015 No.2332090 >>2332086 Another thing is that weapons with alt-fire are just more interesting. Compare the arsenal of Quake with arsenal of Unreal. Or compare Doom and Blood weapons.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:30:31 2015 No.2332102

>>2332090
>Another thing is that weapons with alt-fire are just more interesting.

i just find them confusing. in doom, you just select the rocket launcher and the fire key is always the same. you don't have to think "i must select the machine gun and press a different fire key"

i suppose it doesn't help me that i don't have enough mouse buttons to put altfire on the mouse, making using altfire awkward. but that's my problem, no-one else's, of course.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:34:04 2015 No.2332105 File: 662 KB, 3072x2304, Apple-ADB-mouse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2332102 >i don't have enough mouse buttons

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 03:35:02 2015 No.2332107 >>2332102 >"i must select the machine gun and press a different fire key" Luckily this is just an alternate explosive. I'm sure the RL-slot weapon will be simpler to use.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 04:44:46 2015 No.2332168 >>2332102 You don't even have a mousewheel?

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 04:57:17 2015 No.2332176

>>2332105
two usable buttons, left and right, which are used for "fire" and "run forward". as for the middle button / wheel, see below.

>>2332168
i tried the middle button / mouse wheel as altfire but found it awkward to press; it tends to change weapon by accident instead, not often but often enough to be annoying. mouse wheels are designed to scroll first and be buttons second, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 05:15:15 2015 No.2332198 >>2331262 Surely something akin to "voxel sequences" exists?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 05:16:59 2015 No.2332203 >>2331264 Surely something akin to "voxel sequences" exists?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 05:25:07 2015 No.2332215 >on doomwiki.org >megawads page >lists possest as a notable megawad >play it >doesnt contain any maps >just a shitty gameplay mod How the fuck did this get on there?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 05:36:00 2015 No.2332221 >>2332215 you sure it was THE doomwiki and not the wikia clone? because I am at the doomwiki page right now and I don't see anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 05:37:00 2015 No.2332223 >>2332215 >>2332221 also, a quick google search gave me a hint on why and who added it

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 05:43:07 2015 No.2332229

>>2331264
>>2332203
Yes, you make separate voxel models just as you would a separate sprite, and cycle through them exactly as with sprite animation.

Doom's voxels are shit for anything but small items and decorations, since they're rendered very inefficiently and aren't properly affected lights.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 05:52:42 2015 No.2332235 >>2332223 >>2332215 What was the mod. How shit was it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:03:15 2015 No.2332243 >>2332221 Yes I was on the .org one. Its under episodes for doom 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:04:25 2015 No.2332246 >>2332235 POSSEST or (Classic Revival) Think of it as a really shitty precursor to Samsara.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:10:52 2015 No.2332249 >>2332246 Rivalry* did not mean Revival

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:11:49 2015 No.2332250 File: 786 KB, 1010x720, 1408315983278.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2330513 Haha, jesus christ m8. Just use those jet thrusters to fly all the way across the map. But be sure to avoid those falling concrete donkeys while you're at it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:29:05 2015 No.2332258 File: 47 KB, 401x455, 1398497249052.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Those cacodemons on the second level of Thy Flesh Consumed Why John

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:32:32 2015 No.2332261 >>2331850 > so, we have a massive modding community > WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE NO DECENT MODEL PACKS?! The Doom modding community is massive because is easy as fuck to draw a 2D map with a pair of 64x64 textures..

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:33:06 2015 No.2332263 >>2332258 For your own good, so you improve your own self. DooM is actually one big metaphor for fighting your worst fears.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:36:10 2015 No.2332268 >>2330513 Jesus christ.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:42:14 2015 No.2332275 File: 798 KB, 600x505, ThyFleshConsumed.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2332258 > Brutal Doom > Black Metal > Thy Flesh Consumed > E4M1 > walking out the first room > mfw

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 06:45:43 2015 No.2332279 >>2330513 L-Looks f-fun..

FlyingDildoMan !Q6R8m5VVEo Tue Apr 7 07:17:01 2015 No.2332290
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Quick question, amber or green? I've decided to stick with DoomNukem's rifle this time. I quite like the wide view of the holographic sight as opposed to plain irons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:19:28 2015 No.2332293 >>2332290 I like orange better There was one that was pretty, like cyan or light blue too

>>	FlyingDildoMan !Q6R8m5VVEo Tue Apr 7 07:21:01 2015 No.2332295 >>2332293 While I personally find it more visually interesting, it does tend to blend with Doom's naturally brownish backdrops.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:21:51 2015 No.2332297 >>2332295 Yeah that's what I was thinking too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:23:16 2015 No.2332303 >>2332290 neon purple

>>	FlyingDildoMan !Q6R8m5VVEo Tue Apr 7 07:25:59 2015 No.2332304 Oh shit, maybe I could have it cycle colors if you taunt while zoomed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:28:45 2015 No.2332306 >>2332304 awesome especially if you have a laser dot that takes the same color

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:31:38 2015 No.2332307 >>2332304 or maybe you could just have it flash a load of different colours rapidly, and play techno music

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:34:43 2015 No.2332309 >>2332304 or maybe have it detect the color you're using for the crosshair and use this one

>>	FlyingDildoMan !Q6R8m5VVEo Tue Apr 7 07:39:19 2015 No.2332319 >>2332307 BRILLIANT! It should play this: https://youtu.be/CUM4MHBBeZo?t=30s

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:40:10 2015 No.2332323 File: 710 KB, 1366x768, 1428406810617.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So Terry Wad Archive is making a wad contest

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:56:45 2015 No.2332334 >>>/wsg/602711 Bomber knights, anyone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 08:14:12 2015 No.2332345 File: 157 KB, 1366x768, 2015-04-07_00001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2332290 >not having this as the reticule It's a good idea to have a color that just plain sticks out imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 08:30:47 2015 No.2332359 >>2332221 Funnily enough, the wikia still has that bland pos Prayers of Armageddon on their megawad page. .org removed it years ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 09:11:13 2015 No.2332382 >>2332176 >right >run forward There's your problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 09:22:35 2015 No.2332390 >>2332334 that is cool. but a little dark, perhaps...? i think the explosions need to light up. also, if that's still the test level shivers or whoever made for you, it's becoming very elaborate!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 09:33:51 2015 No.2332396 >>2332390 That's hellbound actually. But yeah I should probably add bright to the explosions. my bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 10:42:23 2015 No.2332460 File: 74 KB, 1020x759, tfw-dominos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2332323 >Terry Wad Archive >terry wad >an archive for them

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 10:45:28 2015 No.2332467 >>2332176 >only two mouse buttons >use one of them for moving forward What, why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 12:33:02 2015 No.2332617 File: 866 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot_Doom_20150406_215456.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] neva change romero

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 13:57:37 2015 No.2332753 >>2332617 xweapons a shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 13:59:20 2015 No.2332756 >>2332345 >playing Payday 2

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:05:18 2015 No.2332764 >>2332756 Believe it or not, the rooty tooty shooty bits are actually really good. Not like, "full price" good, but "getting it free from a friend" good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:12:33 2015 No.2332774 >>2332617 what weapon mod is that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:17:26 2015 No.2332784 >>2332774 see >>2332753 (i think...)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:19:37 2015 No.2332790 >>2328601 There are 2 TNT projects?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:22:46 2015 No.2332793 >>2332790 three if you count final dtwid

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:49:53 2015 No.2332837 File: 322 KB, 640x480, Screenshot_Doom_20150407_194641.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] R8 my screenie, m80

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:51:10 2015 No.2332840 >>2332837 bring me a flashlight sarge i can't see shit / 10

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:55:03 2015 No.2332846 File: 361 KB, 640x480, Screenshot_Doom_20150407_195406.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2332840 It ain't helping shit, captain!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:58:57 2015 No.2332852 >>2332753 let me guess, you played it on cheating simulator difficulty

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 14:59:41 2015 No.2332853 >>2332846 colored lightning <3

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 15:36:24 2015 No.2332905 Got into demonsteele, how do i do the spin attack?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 15:42:08 2015 No.2332915 >>2332905 read the f1 help screen or if you want the answer right away, it's shadow warrior 2013-style inputs hold fire, double-tap a direction spin attack is left left or right right

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 15:59:34 2015 No.2332960
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>>2332176

> two usable buttons, left and right, which are used for "fire" and "run forward"

> i tried the middle button / mouse wheel as altfire but found it awkward to press

Sorry for the pic, sometimes I forgot where the fuck I am...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:04:43 2015 No.2332968 File: 267 KB, 800x600, Screenshot_Doom_20150407_210358.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2332846 Doom 3 mode.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:32:54 2015 No.2333013

>>2332382
>>2332467
>>2332960

mouse left/right - turn left/right
mouse up/down - walk forwards/backwards
mouse left - fire
mouse right - run forwards

A - move left
S - move right
D - use
alt - strafe on

i know my control scheme is a little unorthodox, but i don't see why i'm getting slated for it.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:40:20 2015 No.2333020

>>2333013
>mouse up/down - walk forwards/backwards
i suppose that should say move forwards/backwards, walk/run isn't affected by the mouse. (obviously i have always run on)

also i have Q and W as turn left and right, so strafe50 is RMB+alt+A+Q or RMB+alt+S+W as needed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:50:28 2015 No.2333041 What's /DOOM/s thoughts on the DoomRetro sourceport?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:56:04 2015 No.2333049 >>2333041 It's nothing really special or worth using.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:56:38 2015 No.2333050 File: 84 KB, 230x234, HIIIiiiIiiiiIIIIiiiIIIIIiiiiiIIIiiisssssSSSSssssSSSSss.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2333041 100% pointless

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:59:46 2015 No.2333057

>>2333041
some guy having fun learning programming making his own source port to his own specifications. nothing wrong with that, i'm doing the same.

however he markets it as the second coming of John&John, tried to ride the wave of nostalgia from doom's 20th anniversary and retro gaming in general, spams it all over social media, snidely disparages other source ports, hawks for donations constantly, and is generally a shyster, so fuck him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:02:04 2015 No.2333061 >>2333057 >i'm doing the same. details?

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:03:35 2015 No.2333063

>>2333049
>>2333050
Didn't realise it'd get so much negative response. I personally thought it'd be a good sourceport to someone who's new to Doom. With it being a bit more advanced than vanilla Doom, but less than modern ports.

>>2333057
Ah, I can understand disliking it if the devs a cunt. Also making you're own sourceport sounds like a cool idea. Care to share on it, or is it just something you're keeping private?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:05:42 2015 No.2333069 >>2333063 >With it being a bit more advanced than vanilla Doom, but less than modern ports. For that, we have PRBoom+.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:10:48 2015 No.2333082

>>2333069
True, but PRBoom+ doesn't have stuff like corpse slide and coloured blood out of the box. I'm not saying that either of these features are necessary, but if it was someone new I think it'd be a lot less threatening to see these sorts of features built in without having to scout around for other WADs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:11:47 2015 No.2333085 >>2333063 What you're looking for is PrBoom, it's actually worth a damn, instead of a sourceport with a handful of retarded gameplay features that could be made with a Decorate file for ZDoom in an hour.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:13:21 2015 No.2333086

>>2333061
>>2333063
thank you for your interest. it is however really just the hack/experiment of a nerd who likes to tinker. in other words there is no plan to release it. i don't want to have to support other users and i've removed a lot of things i imagine they would consider essential features (i am quite minimalist, i tend to remove anything i don't care about specifically).

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:15:53 2015 No.2333092 >>2333085 heh i remember when Wrack first came out, i said, "oh that looks pretty cool, i wonder how long it'll be before someone ports it to GZDoom"

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:17:02 2015 No.2333097 >>2333086 try to add voxel shading or something, that'd be awesome

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:17:19 2015 No.2333098 >>2333092 Never actually, because Wrack a shit

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:19:16 2015 No.2333104

>>2333082
i'm not sure how i feel about port consolidation. it seems whenever some niche port gets some desirable feature, everyone has to implement it and if you don't your port is seen as primitive and backwards. but it just means all ports end up with similar feature sets.

>>2333098
well i've never played it but i liked how colourful the screenshots looked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:22:13 2015 No.2333108 >>2333098 Had cool music though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 17:29:26 2015 No.2333123 Need some visually impressive megawads. DRPG+RLA compat a must

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 18:30:15 2015 No.2333212

>>2331858
>do the work for you
No experience in modeling, I'm sorry that I asked a simple question about what seems like an obvious direction, cunt.

>>2331915
Q3 models are of sufficient detail I would assume, fitting in the aesthetic, on the other hand.... Eeeehhhhh, would have to see it in motion to make a judgement.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:00:35 2015 No.2333254

>>2333123
BTSX is one of my favourite wads, from the aesthetical point of view, but it sort of clashes with Doom RL Monsters, because Doom RL creator assumed that Spider Mastermind should be a rare sight, so he made them into extremely strong bosses, and then BTSX creator crams twenty masterminds in every level, and you have to fight twenty giant bullet-sponges armed with instakill hitscan weapons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:16:05 2015 No.2333270 Can someone give me a good mappack wad that will keep me entertained for a while?

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 20:04:51 2015 No.2333339
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I didn't know OS 9 emulators were a thing now, but after a nostalgia attack upon opening a old CD book I had, I figured it'd be worth trying out. My experience 10+ years ago with it didn't turn up much.

But now.

Oh yes. The sack is back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 20:15:15 2015 No.2333347 File: 179 KB, 317x410, Shut up!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2333339 The fuck bro, I'm jealous now. I've always had problems with getting OS9 to work on emulators. Please tell me your secrets.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 20:23:43 2015 No.2333362

>>2333347

I used SheepShaver with the supplied NewWorld ROM and a random international 9.0.4 ISO of OS 9. I can upload the ISO if you want, and the rest can be followed through via http://emaculation.com/doku.php/sheepshaver_setup

I have a BUNCH of random old games. Beyond Mac Action Bungie Sack, I got Shadow Warrior, Age of Empires II, the Sims and all expansions, Myst, Sim City, Star Wars the Gungan Frontier, Amazon Trail 3rd Edition, The Crystal Skull, and some various educational games. If I can find a way to reliably upload these, I can do that too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 20:54:34 2015 No.2333414 Where does Zandorum keep the game save files?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:08:44 2015 No.2333438 >>2333339 >NO GL

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:11:56 2015 No.2333441

>>2333041
I love it, the first time I beat both games was with it.
Emulates the old style graphics (colour especially) perfectly while adding some minor changes that are pretty awesome, such as blue blood when you shoot cacodemons or blood trails when an enemy is hit,

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:12:53 2015 No.2333442 >>2333441 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:13:03 2015 No.2333443 >>2333438 I keep misreading GL as GF.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 21:15:45 2015 No.2333449 >>2333443 least i got trips

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:15:06 2015 No.2333534
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>>2333362
I managed to get it to work with an ISO I remembered I'd downloaded somewhere. Thanks.

And I'd be happy if you uploaded those games somewhere too.

Please accept this as payment in the mean time.

>>	Yholl Tue Apr 7 22:18:01 2015 No.2333538 >>2333254 Ahahahahahahahahaha Looks like my bosses are bosses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:18:16 2015 No.2333539 >>2333534 It'll be awhile from now. Probably quite some time. Let me see if I can upload THE SACK though.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:30:41 2015 No.2333559

>>2333534
>>2333539

I have absolutely ZERO idea how to properly rip CDs and the like, I assume I can just use Daemon Tools, eh?

I'm gonna upload my Sack.iso in a few hours if I remember. Doing this gave me the idea to buy a cheap-o couple-TB hard drive and just convert all my old CDs/DVDs to images.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:42:19 2015 No.2333589 Wrath of Cronus got updated to 1.8A today. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35846&start=255 Not entirely sure what got changed, my guess is bugfixing. It also has a cool Hexen texture pack with it too, for Doom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 23:02:06 2015 No.2333605 >>2333589 >Not entirely sure what got changed There is a changelog on page 1 dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 00:07:59 2015 No.2333672 >>2333538 Prehaps. You the real yholl?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 00:17:42 2015 No.2333680 >>2333013 That's a fucked up control scheme if I ever saw one. Why people bash you for it? Because it's the source of your problem and you fail to see it. You should consider sitting down with a bottle of whiskey and reflect on your life choices.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 00:18:42 2015 No.2333681 >>2333441 getoffshill.jpg

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 00:22:45 2015 No.2333687

Here we are lads,

Mac Action Bungie Sack ISO:
Marathon Trilogy + Abuse + Pathways into the Darkness + Minotaur + Myth II Demo + Oni Preview

For OS 9 systems. Should work on early OS X versions that have good reverse compatibility, but not newer ones.

https://mega.co.nz/#!1sxR3AbZ!6T5b1wZc8Lu5n9yJk41IMpmCcOCtXb4WkAciiGpE7c0

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 00:31:55 2015 No.2333695 >>2333605 >dwmegawad club >but the megawad is already done and criticizing it won't be productive I really hate when people use such logic to dismiss criticism. Its like saying "don't like it, don't play it"

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 00:36:22 2015 No.2333702 >>2333695 Did you respond to the wrong post?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 01:05:58 2015 No.2333729 >>2333702 Yeah. Didn't mean to quote. My mistake.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:13:04 2015 No.2333785 >>2333098 Wrack's main downfall for me, is that the enemies are boring, and barely pose a threat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:17:06 2015 No.2333792 >>2333212 Not the guy you responded to, but you might want to read up on how models work before bringing them up in every fucking thread. Also, you're the one that seems like a cunt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:20:28 2015 No.2333795 >>2333792 I've been in these threads since their inception, and this is literally the first time I've brought that concept up. Go cram a broom up your ass and sweep the floor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:37:03 2015 No.2333812 File: 113 KB, 500x468, 1381292337122.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2333795 >Go cram a broom up your ass and sweep the floor. That's beautiful

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:39:39 2015 No.2333815 >>2333795 >I've been in these threads since their inception if this was true then you should know the general answer to models in doom

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:42:20 2015 No.2333820 >>2333795 >I've been in these threads since their inception I remember the same question being asked and answered at least 3-4 times just in the last month.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:44:28 2015 No.2333824

>>2331687
Nah, last time i asked Jenova about RO's packet carnage on that very specific server he mentioned soemthing like "its the same shit that happens with Chillax" and i do not expect Russian Overkill servers to get more than 12 users. Think about it, people packeting left and right with only 5 persistent users who keep reconnecting just to shoot a yamato blast to a lost soul vs other 20 users who have megapotatos that can't handle RO.

In the end, the massive grotesque and supreme devastating power of Russian Overkill is NOTHING compared to the circus2.wad incident

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 02:47:32 2015 No.2333827

>>2331687
>>2333824
Also, on top of that, i personally did the hinderburg spam with spread rune twice only because everyone else was spamming yamatos everywhere. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO WAS THERE DIED OF PACKETS, and then everyone simply reconnected like if nothing happened.

It's a shame TAT41 was removed and will probably stay removed in future servers because of that, i had fun hearing "I GOT A PRESENT FOR YA" 6 times at the same time

>>	Yholl Wed Apr 8 03:06:22 2015 No.2333837 >>2333672 yis

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 03:27:26 2015 No.2333856 >>2333837 decent looking HUD for doomRLA when?

>>	Yholl Wed Apr 8 04:03:07 2015 No.2333886 >>2333856 When you make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:04:30 2015 No.2333890 >>2333837 Alright. I dare you to reveal the cyber rift lord.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:06:44 2015 No.2333892 >>2330432 There is a death exit in map14 in HR2, you are correct.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:17:33 2015 No.2333901 >>2333892 see >>2330502

>>	Yholl Wed Apr 8 04:18:36 2015 No.2333902 File: 12 KB, 85x109, Cyber-Riftlord Concept.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2333890 Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. WIP sprite, unfinished, needs lighting work still. Armageddon super boss, the Cyber-Riftlord. Makes you ded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:33:54 2015 No.2333910 >>2333886 i wish i knew how

>>	Yholl Wed Apr 8 05:03:28 2015 No.2333932 >>2333910 You don't want to look in the 32k+ line SBARINFO. Your innocence is precious and must be preserved. Suffice it to say, pretty much everyone who has tried has quickly gone mad and given up.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:10:19 2015 No.2333937
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Is Nightmare a game difficulty that people pick or is it just for co-op and masochists?

I know Id playtested DOOM on Ultra Violence and thats whats recommended but holy shit do people actually play on Nightmare?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:12:41 2015 No.2333939 >>2333937 Nightmare was added as a joke difficulty when people complained that UV was too easy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:26:04 2015 No.2333952 >>2333937 Nightmare is a gag mode

>>	FlyingDildoMan !Q6R8m5VVEo Wed Apr 8 05:27:28 2015 No.2333954 >>2332345 I could certainly add that to ZDoom's cross hairs as a bonus gag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:50:55 2015 No.2333975 >friend has only played doom and doom2 on XBLA >get him set up with BTSX E1 and Project MSX >he falls in love with the game feels good man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 05:56:20 2015 No.2333982 >>2333975 Nice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:32:00 2015 No.2334000 >>2333902 Looks great!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 07:14:07 2015 No.2334027 >>2333937 It's pretty popular for speedruns. To increase difficulty over UV in a "fair" way, turn "fast monsters" on. It's pretty fun actually, and turns pinkies rather dangerous for once.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:14:30 2015 No.2334072 >>2330513 i showed this video to someone and he said, "why is it so laggy?" any idea?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:32:03 2015 No.2334080 >>2332215 Looks like my edit to remove it was approved. Awesome.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:38:03 2015 No.2334081 >>2334072 3 godzillion particles every time someone shoots a gun. This surely cannot lag at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:41:14 2015 No.2334084 >>2334081 that's what i thought. either that or fraps being shitty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:41:42 2015 No.2334087 >>2332221 >the wikia clone? Wikia was actually the original. It was started back in 2005. The people who maintained it eventually got sick of Wikia's shitty ways, and decided to move it to its own domain back in 2011.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:48:45 2015 No.2334092 >>2333534 >>2333539 >>2333559 Maybe y'all are gone by now, but you could also just use this: http://macintoshgarden.org

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:43:22 2015 No.2334191 >>2333820 I should point out I don't pay attention much, and I participate in every third-ish thread or so. >>2333815 I mean, I do still think it's a valid question. And a good effort hasn't really been made to my estimation.

Tarnsman !!F5RWcUVAyWu Wed Apr 8 11:53:42 2015 No.2334283

>>2333254
>BTSX is one of my favourite wads, from the aesthetical point of view, but it sort of clashes with Doom RL Monsters, because Doom RL creator assumed that Spider Mastermind should be a rare sight, so he made them into extremely strong bosses, and then BTSX creator crams twenty masterminds in every level, and you have to fight twenty giant bullet-sponges armed with instakill hitscan weapons.

This is my favorite part of working on BTSX. Shoving all those Spider Masterminds into every level.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:25:03 2015 No.2334324 >>2334283 are there any plans to put more health at the start of e2m10? it is such a frustrating map to play.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:28:43 2015 No.2334332 >>2334283 Whens the final version of E1 coming?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:29:55 2015 No.2334337 >>2334332 the previous answer was "when essel finishes megatexturing <some level>", i believe.

>>	Tarnsman !!F5RWcUVAyWu Wed Apr 8 12:34:53 2015 No.2334343 >>2334337 >>2334332 That's still the answer. The level is Navigating Flood Regions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:38:37 2015 No.2334352 >>2333902 i swear ive seen that exact cyberdemon on realm667

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:41:11 2015 No.2334359 >>2334337 >>2334343 I see. Hopefully he gets to finishing that soon. I've been holding off on doing a playthrough for quite some time now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:48:32 2015 No.2334375 >>2334343 How complete would you say E2 is?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:58:04 2015 No.2334392 File: 11 KB, 1540x534, sawgd0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the weird things prboom does when it loads sprites

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:07:43 2015 No.2334405 File: 7 KB, 320x240, 1428512801.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334392 probably why there's a brown line on the chainsaw

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:09:59 2015 No.2334408 File: 11 KB, 1540x534, sawgd1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334405 so let's fiddle with it

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:11:13 2015 No.2334410 >>2334392 >>2334405 PrBoom really needs to fix its software renderer. Weapons have artifacts on them on most resolutions. Most noticable on the chaingun fire and chainsaw.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:11:55 2015 No.2334416 File: 7 KB, 320x240, 1428513050.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334408 better..?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:29:39 2015 No.2334448 File: 3 KB, 250x140, DarkCardinal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334352 Close. It looks like it's based on the Dark Cardinal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:47:26 2015 No.2334474 File: 310 KB, 318x180, BEES.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://img.4plebs.org/boards/f/image/1428/47/1428478840670.swf Colorful Doom in a nutshell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:52:15 2015 No.2334484 >>2334474 I dont get it. Whats Colorful Doom?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:58:07 2015 No.2334490 File: 15 KB, 177x271, spoonfeeding.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334484 Colorful Doom is bees.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:04:29 2015 No.2334504 What's the best Doom engine for single player? Why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:09:47 2015 No.2334514 >>2334504 L I T E R A L L Y no best You can use PrBoom+ for your classic gameplay needs And ZDoom if you want to play single-player mods

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:10:17 2015 No.2334515 >>2333254 >BTSX creator crams twenty masterminds in every level We must have played different wads. My BTSX has several masterminds on Map07, Metal Mothers, and... well I can't remember any others but I'm sure there are a handful somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:11:53 2015 No.2334516 >>2334504 ZDoom/GZDoom if you like mods. Why? Because it supports the most mods. PRBoom+ if you like the classic experience. Why? Because it offers the classic experience with some extra options and supports a massive variety of maps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:14:08 2015 No.2334519 how soon till we can get either >smooth weapon and/or monster animations in Doom 64ex or >Doom 64 monsters in Smooth Doom ??? can anyone explain why we cant use the smooth doom 64 weapon animations in doom 64ex?

>>	Tarnsman !!F5RWcUVAyWu Wed Apr 8 14:15:47 2015 No.2334526 >>2334375 >BTSX >complete >ever Oh you cheeky fuck you! It will probably be complete sometime in the 22nd century.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:16:22 2015 No.2334528 >>2334526 >we will get to the real Saturn before E2

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:16:51 2015 No.2334529 >>2331128 imo mouseturning + autoaim is way easier than mouselook without autoaim

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:16:52 2015 No.2334530 File: 223 KB, 176x270, 1428516925.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334490

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:18:24 2015 No.2334536 >>2331865 thats actually the best doom model ive ever seen

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:18:32 2015 No.2334537 >>2334519 because doom64ex is a completely different source port that uses an entirely different language/modding system than smooth doom

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:20:43 2015 No.2334543 >>2334537 so why is it so hard to transfer the animations?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:22:39 2015 No.2334546 >>2334516 By mods, you mean gameplay mods? I can play custom wads on PRBoom+?

>>	Tarnsman !!F5RWcUVAyWu Wed Apr 8 14:25:06 2015 No.2334553 >>2334528 E2 is released you can see it. It's just not "complete" since a some whole maps are changing. I'm remaking E2M20 and the end map is a place holder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:27:53 2015 No.2334561 >>2334546 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:29:44 2015 No.2334571 >>2334553 you didn't answer my question about e2m10

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:32:47 2015 No.2334581 File: 2.08 MB, 640x480, e1m4.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] cool, first time i've ever had this jump go first time!

>>	Tarnsman !!F5RWcUVAyWu Wed Apr 8 14:33:49 2015 No.2334584 >>2334571 we're moving all the health to the exit room

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:40:35 2015 No.2334603 >>2334584 oh well, thanks for your time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:42:16 2015 No.2334605 >>2334561 But I can't mouselook?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:45:32 2015 No.2334616 >>2334543 ...Because they were coded in using an entirely different language. You might as well be asking why we can't port the smooth animations to Chocolate Doom.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:46:08 2015 No.2334618 >>2334605 in pr+, you can look up and down, but you can't aim up and down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 15:04:08 2015 No.2334654 >>2327593 >>2329978 demonsteele has a v0.82 release, a maintenance build to upgrade for zandro 2.0 http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=826087#p826087

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 15:31:56 2015 No.2334689

>>2334324
>more health at the start of e2m10
Is this a joke? I just fired up e2m10 and there are multiple medkits scattered around, and even a berserk if you want a full restore to 100%.

>>2334581
The last time I watched a Doom speedrun, the runner did the jump over the slime to that teeny ledge that lets you get the yellow key without going through the maze. Is that trick obsolete? Seems like the trick you're doing makes the level very straightforward.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 15:45:59 2015 No.2334706 >>2334616 ... Did you know that you can extract frames then put them into DECORATE, no matter how original was codded?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:02:13 2015 No.2334720 >>2334706 Do that with doom64ex then Go on You won't get very far

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:07:08 2015 No.2334729

>>2334689
>Is this a joke?
no, i find the map very frustrating and unforgiving of mistakes. e.g. at the start you are given a berserk, then jumped by several skeletons, whilst having to hide from chaingunners, and an archvile. later there's a place that traps you in an almost cover-free area with two archviles, a bunch more chaingunners, and arachnotrons. i find myself lucky to survive to the blue door, and that's like, a third of the map. it's quite obnoxious, and turning down the skill level hardly helps at all.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:12:02 2015 No.2334736
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>>2334689
>Is that trick obsolete?
i think the current compet-n UV speed record for E1M4 uses the exit jump. but the ledge jump to yellow key is a lot easier to do than strafe50ing across a 192-wide gap, and you don't lose a great deal of time, so it might be favoured in episode runs, i don't know.

http://doom.com.hr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=535
http://doom.com.hr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=536

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:15:53 2015 No.2334742 >>2333902 >not making a brand new head and gun for the supreme lord of cybers Know it's WIP, but something to think about

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:18:59 2015 No.2334748 >>2333902 Good luck with the rest of the frames

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:21:07 2015 No.2334753 >>2333902 Okay, so it is you. Also immediately die in a fire for making those hellstorm elementals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:25:13 2015 No.2334761 >>2334736 Cool, thanks. Yeah, I think I was watching a live speedrun of the entire episode, so it's probably a tradeoff for consistency.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:26:07 2015 No.2334767 What are some good atmospheric wads?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:27:23 2015 No.2334769 >>2334767 e2m4 redux

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:29:48 2015 No.2334776 >>2334767 monster hunter ltd mayan mishap hell ground

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:31:06 2015 No.2334778 >>2334767 Unloved Mayan Mishap Buttsex

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:51:22 2015 No.2334803 >>2334767 Unloved is GOAT Asylum of the wretched is pretty good too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:54:34 2015 No.2334806 >>2334767 equinox, although its gameplay can be annoying

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:55:40 2015 No.2334808 File: 36 KB, 300x100, 83.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Brutal Gmota When

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 17:50:41 2015 No.2334852 >>2334808 When you make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 17:50:44 2015 No.2334853 File: 1.07 MB, 1920x1080, spasm0022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who's excited for the upcoming Map Jam 5 from the Quake mappers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 17:54:32 2015 No.2334858 File: 367 KB, 1920x1080, 2014-08-03_00012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334853 Hell yes. Although nothing yet seems to be able to top Map Jam 2. The overall quality of those maps was pretty amazing. (save for one I think)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:08:29 2015 No.2334869 >>2334858 dear god where are these maps?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:30:11 2015 No.2334882 >>2334852 heh. i don't really want it, i just got that banner, my brain made the obvious connection, and i was amused enough to post. gmota is way too comfy for all that blood and swearing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:33:10 2015 No.2334891 >>2334869 yeah they look super nice, that dusty white cyan is delightful, especially with the contrast of the occasional yellow bits.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:34:37 2015 No.2334894 >>2332258 You're not a man until you pistolstart Episode 4 on UV

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:39:33 2015 No.2334898 File: 553 KB, 2560x1440, 2014-08-03_00004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334869 http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61061 Skip cocerello's map, but the rest are absolute top-notch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:40:05 2015 No.2334902 File: 65 KB, 640x480, Screenshot_Doom_20130404_164646.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm having trouble finding ColorfulHell. Google and the archives got me nothing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:44:16 2015 No.2334908 >>2334898 meh, IKSPQ clones

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:45:55 2015 No.2334909 >>2334908 Thank you for taking the time to play each and every map from start to finish before giving your verdict.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:50:51 2015 No.2334917 File: 69 KB, 640x480, 1365115916395.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2334902 http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47980

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:54:08 2015 No.2334921 >>2334917 The limey spelling. Thanks. It's weird to see someone reposting that screenshot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 19:08:55 2015 No.2334950 >>2334882 >GMOTA >Comfy that's a first, how is it comfy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 19:15:59 2015 No.2334962 >>2334405 Isn't that supposed to read "EAGER BEAVER," the name of the chainsaw? I don't think those are rendering artifacts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 19:24:52 2015 No.2334976 >>2334962 Look at the top line of pixels on the chainsaw itself.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:53:07 2015 No.2335179

>>2334950
Not him, but:
>absolutely no worries about non-item-crash ammo
>health up to 100 is almost as easy to get too
>you literally cannot run out of strong, AoE ranged atks
>every weapon is damn effective against everything, punching high tier enemies to death is pretty easy except maybe the cyberdemon
>no enemy replacements are of the FUCK YOU kind (compare wonky revenants with the blackened from donut steele or DRLA's the hungry and telefrag elemental)
>near invulnerability on demand after the first BFG

The only thing that isnt comfy as fuck about GMOTA right now is the loss of POW.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:55:03 2015 No.2335181 >>2335179 Hm... Might be a little too easy then. But I don't really want to change anything about GMOTA.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 22:10:34 2015 No.2335202 >>2335179 >Telefrag elemental oh god. "HAH, MISSED FAGGO-" >Sucked into the attack

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 23:15:46 2015 No.2335286 Doom fans, what are your opinions on Hexen?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 23:20:37 2015 No.2335292 >>2335286 Cool sprites, love the gothic atmosphere, I love the three playable heroes and their unique armory. hate the goddamn switchflicking puzzles and centaurs bring things down

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:17:08 2015 No.2335385 >>2334729 I only found the map hard after the yellow key door, personally.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:22:05 2015 No.2335391 >>2335179 >>2335181 been thinking about this, and really I should look into making GMOTA have a little more teeth to it. I mean fuck that's the whole reason -why- I've been adding custom monsters

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:25:11 2015 No.2335397

>>2335391
Honestly, I think the only changes that'd be necessary is to remove the healing on the powered gauntlet and nerf the splash on the charge shot. Having on-demand healing does terrible things to balance. Having on-demand wide AOE with no risk of self-damage does terrible things to game flow.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:26:58 2015 No.2335401 >>2335397 yeah... The lifedrain shots were there since day one though. It was kind of a core mechanic of GMOTA before it even became the massive beast you see today. I can nerf the charge shot a little though

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:34:13 2015 No.2335406

>>2335401
>yeah... The lifedrain shots were there since day one though.
they were there from day one because you didn't know of a better way to do it
people were complaining and you went "uhhhhhh fuck well here have an out"

now that you're more experienced, more familiar, you know that this is a bad idea
it's unintuitive, it breaks balance, and there's no way to reasonably justify it

but you know that if you remove it, people will be after your fucking ballsack

can't say i envy your position, mate

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:36:10 2015 No.2335410 >>2335406 He could always make them only heal on skill 1.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:41:21 2015 No.2335416

>>2335406
>they were there from day one because you didn't know of a better way to do it

No man, like before I even made GMOTA a thing, the idea was to have 4 weapons. The first two weapons were supposed to give you ammo for the second two. Then the third weapon gives you HP on hit, and the fourth weapon was SUPPOSED to give you armor, though that never came to pass.

I could always make it so the lifedrain shots stop working past like, 50% HP. The problem would be conveying this. If I were to remove the lifedrain entirely, I'd probably make a few health pickups (drumsticks and milk jugs) drop from a few other monsters

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:50:25 2015 No.2335427

>Then the third weapon gives you HP on hit, and the fourth weapon was SUPPOSED to give you armor, though that never came to pass.
Hell, just making it give you armor instead of health would fix it. You'd be able to bulk up, but not infinitely replenish yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:52:11 2015 No.2335428 >kegan in charge of a consistent design nah just giving you shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:00:27 2015 No.2335439 >>2335416 Advantage of having lifedrain: >Blaz is able to fuel his close range style even if healing isn't common Disadvantage of having lifedrain: >Blaz is really powerful at range so a player could just stay away and enjoy the delicious life meter

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:03:51 2015 No.2335445

>>2335439

see and that's the thing, blaz was never meant to be good with ranged attacks, hell in GMOTA's early days the wand actually had a limited range.

What if instead, I grant the lifedrain effects to the power sword's attack? That'd further reward melee usage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:06:06 2015 No.2335447 >>2335445 Sounds good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:08:31 2015 No.2335450 >>2335445 I'd be all in favor of this. Would you be able to face the butthurt?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:08:50 2015 No.2335452 >>2335445 Turn lifedrain shots into limited range shots Put a short range on the charge buster Power sword having healing power slashes actually gives the slash a good purpose and a use for meter outside of Shining Knight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:09:31 2015 No.2335454 >>2335450 please do not stick your face near butts

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:11:58 2015 No.2335457

>>2335450

Seeing as I'm not truly removing the healing ability but just repurposing it, yes.

>>2335452

I could prolly make the spiral shots have drop off after falling a set distance and remove their healing ability, and make the two charged buster attacks fade out after a set distance. With those tweaks it'd limit Blaz's ranged capabilities a little but not render them completely useless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:18:33 2015 No.2335460 File: 20 KB, 994x1462, WIPWIEWIG.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post 'em.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:23:25 2015 No.2335465 >>2335397 Nah, just have hope that GMOTA_Guy stops being a noodlebrain and makes the monsters a lot more threatening than just nerfing [WRONGLY] the item crash weapons

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:24:45 2015 No.2335467 >>2335465 I'm not nerfing item crashes. in fact I buffed the shit out of the dagger crash. No, the monsters need to be better at making you dead, some might need to be a little tougher too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:25:45 2015 No.2335468 File: 5 KB, 170x236, mmmngh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2335465 and I'm not a noodlebrain, you stop that

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:34:26 2015 No.2335476

>>2334950
>that's a first, how is it comfy?
original idiot here, for me i think it's those old school sound effects, or the graphics where everything is brightly coloured, floats around, and has a black outline like in a cartoon. there's no masses of gore, screaming, and FUCK YO'SELFness, the contrast being why i thought >>2334808 was an amusing post in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:36:50 2015 No.2335481 >>2335385 i'm envious of your skills then i guess. were you playing pistols or continuous?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:51:35 2015 No.2335503 File: 987 KB, 1030x1462, reelism.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2335460 Here's an old one but whatever

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:55:24 2015 No.2335510 >>2335481 Pistol started.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:57:50 2015 No.2335514

>>2335467
You know what could be a better idea for the monsters?
Make them move faster or pull a Chess and make every monster have its own special gimmick

Archers: Multi shot Enemy. make them have more than 2 types of arrows with different effects. You could give him 2 new arrows, Blue is an Ice shot, slows you down for half second and Purple is poison, it makes you take small damage for 3 seconds so he has a bit more variety.
Steel Dukes: Close Quarters Enemy. Perfect shotgunner replacer, no suggestions
Black Vipers: Rapid Fire Enemy. 2 ideas for this guy, make them throw greanades and/or make them charge a powered bullet shot that goes faster and hits harder.
Hollow Steel Armors: Tank Melee Enemy. Make them hit like a truck and hold more attacks because they die like at 6 slashes on UV.
Imp Skirmisher:Projectile Enemy. Give his shield more love, instead of making him rise his shield, make him THROW his shield in pain-state and make his projectiles be flaming because Imps are known as "that enemy that throws you fire"
Wyvern: Flying Enemy. No issue with this guy besides a lack of a melee attack. They are a good reference to Project MSX.
Chaos Revenant: Spooky Enemy. Give this guy a seriously agitating homing projectile attack because caged revenants are a thing and this guy can't do anything in a cage.
Mage Gunner: Turret-like Enemy. Make this guy a bigger bitch, more health or more projectiles when doing his rapid fire attack.

This is only for the already exiting enemies because i am sure you have nice ideas for the new monsters, i am not suggesting anything for them. I just wish that you could out-do Terminus when it comes in the side of "Making Dickish monsters". Go ahead and think how to make an enemy that is superior to the Blackened without replacing a monster that is usually one of the most agitating enemies.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:05:39 2015 No.2335529

>>2335514
>I just wish that you could out-do Terminus when it comes in the side of "Making Dickish monsters".

I could quite easily help him make absolutely dickish stuff. I've got an entire list here of infuriating little tactics and possibilities.
My personal favorite is giving Centaur shields to the Revenants.

Though while Hae-Lin has the token health system to soak up the nastiness, Blaz is relatively more straightforward with traditional health, and so most of the dick moves probably wouldn't be as soak-able.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:06:13 2015 No.2335531 File: 596 KB, 994x1462, fuckingyholl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2335460

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:07:49 2015 No.2335536 >>2335529 I got the perfect solution for token health, Hae-Lin is pushed in pain-state

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:30:08 2015 No.2335558 >>2335510 then my hat goes off to you. please record a demo if you can, so i can see how best to approach the map.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:35:00 2015 No.2335563

>>2335529
>My personal favorite is giving Centaur shields to the Revenants.
No see this isn't even dickish, this is just making it not fun.

Demonsteele's dickish enemies are a nuisance but they aren't really unfun to fight.

It's important that they are enjoyable to fight even if they're a complete cunt of an enemy.
Your enemies are fun by the way, I am only saying that just making things unfun isn't really the right way to make dickish enemies

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:41:18 2015 No.2335572
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>>2335514

Those are some pretty cool ideas anon, and you've given me a lot to think about AND work with. Lemme address a few though

I love that archer idea, I'm definitely digging the thought of giving those bastards some debuff attacks rather than just "this arrow hits you harder than the other"

I like imps lobbing maces and javelins, but how about at critical HP they can throw fire attacks that leave lingering flames that do minor, annoying damage?

Though I'm not gonna increase living armor HP, those guys are built like brick shithouses as is, seeing as they're pinkie demon replacements I shudder to think how much of a slog it'd be trying to kill a lot of those guys with MORE HP for the other two heroes.

Also I did actually give Chaos revenants a homing boner attack, I might make it more frequent though

More projectiles for the mage gunner, I can do that

Thanks man, you're pretty great

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:42:08 2015 No.2335574 File: 1.69 MB, 1030x1462, prettymuf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2335460

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:00:06 2015 No.2335592
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>>2335563
>Giving a shield to chaos revenants somehow is unfun
Belive me that in GMOTA, that would be dickish and not unfun. You wanna see something unfun?
MSX Badass monsters addons's Shield soldiers. THEY LITERALLY SURVIVE A SUPER CHARGED GREANADE. This is where things go unfun, when something goes out of its rank and traits. With GMOTA, a POW'd Earthshaker could deal with those shielded Revenants because in this case, they could stay on their rank instead of being unfun and going IDDQD when they have their shield.

You don't know what is unfun when you play MSX badass addon or to a bigger extent, DoomRLA's Armageddon difficulty.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:04:35 2015 No.2335597

>>2335572
>I love that archer idea, I'm definitely digging the thought of giving those bastards some debuff attacks rather than just "this arrow hits you harder than the other"
I also tought in making them have an explosive arrow and an electric arrow that stuns you but these would go out of the Archer's rank and traits [The explosive arrow could be a rare attack or something he does when he's at low HP though].

>I like imps lobbing maces and javelins, but how about at critical HP they can throw fire attacks that leave lingering flames that do minor, annoying damage?
This sounds good but i still think the shield should play a role on the Imps, but i am sure that the shield is a placeholder.

>Though I'm not gonna increase living armor HP, those guys are built like brick shithouses as is, seeing as they're pinkie demon replacements I shudder to think how much of a slog it'd be trying to kill a lot of those guys with MORE HP for the other two heroes.
Then make them hit harder because they do pathetic damage, just buff their damage for like... 10 or 15%

>Also I did actually give Chaos revenants a homing boner attack, I might make it more frequent though
>More projectiles for the mage gunner, I can do that
Now this is actual progress.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:08:08 2015 No.2335602

>>2335597
>This sounds good but i still think the shield should play a role on the Imps, but i am sure that the shield is a placeholder.

Honestly if I could get a set of imp warlord sprites with no shield, I'd use them.

I can totally buff the living armor's attack though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:13:19 2015 No.2335608 >>2335592 >Armageddon is hard as balls, take your genitals to a disk grinder >Find out there's going to be even HARDER monsters for it >The nightmare cybie we have is literally babbytier in comparison FUCK?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:15:17 2015 No.2335613 >>2335608 Nightmare Cyberdemon, the monster that launchers you BIG LASERS [for you] is going to be NOTHING compared to Armageddon's Cyberdemon, and knowing Yholl, The spider mastermind will be worse

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:16:52 2015 No.2335615 File: 1006 KB, 994x1462, GMOTA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:20:52 2015 No.2335617 >>2335615 I don't get it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:24:05 2015 No.2335621 >>2335617 dont think about it to hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:30:54 2015 No.2335626 >>2335592 I play MSX ONLY with Badass monsters because except for the shield guys I really like the new additions

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:32:08 2015 No.2335627 >>2335617 It cleans up very well

Yholl Thu Apr 9 03:34:49 2015 No.2335629

>>2335592
>You don't know what is unfun when you play MSX badass addon or to a bigger extent, DoomRLA's Armageddon difficulty.

Care to explain how it is unfun?

>>2335613
Not entirely true. There are actually two versions of the Mastermind and Cyberdemon for Armageddon, one of which is super rare and murderkilly.
A Nightmare Cyberdemon will still be quite vicious, just slightly less so in comparison.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:44:19 2015 No.2335638 >>2335629 Nightmare cyberdemon browns a lot of pants. I take it Cyber/Nightmare Cyber MK2 is the cycloid-cyberdemon torso chaingun cyber?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:47:40 2015 No.2335639 >>2335629 Hey yholl, what about a Reconstructed Cyber? Inspired by this image. s24 postimg org/4x3byenad/cyberdemon2.png

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:49:21 2015 No.2335641 >>2335629 Hey yholl, can you toss me the unmodified stock fatso and revenant sounds that the magmacubus and the armageddon revenant use? I think I can toss some new sounds together for them real quick.

Yholl Thu Apr 9 03:55:45 2015 No.2335648

>>2335638
Yeah, but it won't have the chaingun torso. Turns out both Term and I were working towards almost identical things for quite some time, haha, so I'm hoping to alter my design a bit.
Maybe some shoulder missile pods or something?

>>2335639
Something like that would be an absolute nightmare to create, you'd need someone Eriance level to make that. Even thinking about the rotations makes me cringe.

>>2335641
Wait what i am confus
um

Here, I guess? https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbw6cctoleye0wr/pk_doom_sfx_20120224.7z?dl=1

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:58:27 2015 No.2335650

>>2335629
>Care to explain how it is unfun?
Where do i even begin..?
How the fuck do you win at this?
EVERYTHING IS PURE RAPE
>Revenihilators
Either you get drones or they blast you to pieces, it always ends in no escape from the Revenihilator, fighting 12 of them is horror
>Hungries
FRACTAL, RIPPING, FAST AND SMALL. Anihilation
>Hellstorm Elemental
"NICE FLASHY ATTACK, MEATBA-"
>"Player got telefragged"
It doesn't matter what kind of armor you have or how badass you are, its impossible to survive this attack.
>Mechstrosity
NOPE.avi. They are Tanky, fast and they also have a chaingun.

And having to fight Nightmare cybs all the time is just the cherry on the top. Armageddon is no fun and DoomRPG makes this worse with "LOL 1 MONSTER ONLY ROUND, YOU GONNA FIGHT ONLY HUNGRIES." This happened to me
RLA Armageddon is unfun, but its unfun in the best way possible, being 200% dickish. The idea of a Pain elemental that makes a blackhole that telefrags you is the worst torture someone can get but at the same time the best idea ever. Beating TNT:Evilution in armageddon was an achievment for me i will never do it again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 03:58:43 2015 No.2335651 >>2335648 hey yholl can i be your 1.0 bugtester and by that i mean can i play it before everyone else

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:00:55 2015 No.2335653 File: 635 KB, 750x760, 99.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2335648 >Maybe some shoulder missile pods or something? You could try making something like pic related but as a Cyberdemon >Shoulder missiles >Dual Mortars >Bigger Missiles

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:04:23 2015 No.2335657 >>2335653 >cyberdemon with a bigass jet on his forehead please do

Yholl Thu Apr 9 04:04:26 2015 No.2335658

>>2335650
Let's see...

>Revenihilators
Make sure drones don't activate, give their shots a wide berth.
>Hungries
Shoot them. They have 10 health.
>Hellstorm Elemental
Don't stand in the way of his shots. They aren't exactly fast.
>Mechstrosity
Don't shoot them. They get angry.

Armageddon is quite fun, just not for you, basically. Which is perfectly fine, this difficulty is for people that want ohgoddie, or to make easier mapsets still fun in Coop etc.

All Armageddon enemies are pretty easy to deal with once you learn their behaviour.

>>2335651
only if you make me pretty things

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:07:28 2015 No.2335660 >>2335658 sounds kinky

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:09:59 2015 No.2335664 File: 1.97 MB, 1442x1370, MSX.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2335460

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:33:14 2015 No.2335679 >>2335658 I say keep the torso chaingun and add rocketpods. What's wrong with a torso chaingun? Who says two people can't both have torso chainguns? Replace the entire damn head with a weapon-face hybrid then, ala the makron.

>>	Yholl Thu Apr 9 04:36:41 2015 No.2335681 >>2335679 Haha, that's not a bad idea, I will have to see what we can do. Either way, it'll be quite a while before he gets done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:40:52 2015 No.2335685 >>2335658 I wouldn't mind bugtesting. Nobody likes bad bugs. >>2335648 I mean the ones that aren't modified specifically. Would be better if they were in non-doom-file format so I can run my modifications to the sounds easier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:41:52 2015 No.2335686 >>2335679 Well hey, don't get too ahead of yourself. Gun hoses are also cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 04:42:53 2015 No.2335687 >>2335685 Disregard, Figured out how to get it out of slade. God I'm dumb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 05:11:05 2015 No.2335701 >>2335681 Tried to modify the mancubus see sound for the magmacubus, but I don't know where to go from here. http://picosong.com/VH2C/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 05:17:43 2015 No.2335704 >>2335701 someone should try fucking around with random animal noises maybe a reversed and slowed down cat screech would be demonic enough to fit in

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 05:32:15 2015 No.2335709 >>2334806 And the music, too. >>2334776 Seconding Hell Ground.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 05:33:22 2015 No.2335713 >>2334858 Oh man that map. So good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 06:16:36 2015 No.2335730 >>2335704 I fiddled around with the mancubus's and that's literally what it is. It's a modified tiger/lion roar

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 07:27:44 2015 No.2335773 >play chillax >literally rips off slaughtermaps from other wads, and mindlessly adds in even more monsters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 07:37:53 2015 No.2335781 >>2335773 pretty much. chillax's flagrant discard of anything remotely resembling game balance has been widely noted, especially by the original authors of the maps which it purloins.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 09:40:12 2015 No.2335856 File: 2.67 MB, 640x360, gzdoom 2015-04-09 09-28-42-121.avi.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Penetration is a fun mechanic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 10:14:57 2015 No.2335878 Reminder that the Doom community is cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 10:23:41 2015 No.2335886 File: 92 KB, 720x537, 1422794334484.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2335856 Heheh, you said mechanic

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 10:48:39 2015 No.2335906 >>2335856 Seems a bit op for a rapidfire weapon to have penetration.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 11:18:30 2015 No.2335929

>>2335445
>What if instead, I grant the lifedrain effects to the power sword's attack?
That is a great idea, but powered attacks are already a gigantic waste of mana compared to sword throw followed by a shinning knight instead of reload. This would make people even less willing to touch it unless they have under 100 hp.
IMO it would be better if it either healed up just a little but up to 200 or if it filled your armor if you have 100 health already.
Enemies should drop less full armors regardless though. The amulet of warding never saw use even when we could hold several of them because every other mook hands you a golden armor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 11:19:18 2015 No.2335931 >>2335856 WAD?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:00:42 2015 No.2335983 >>2335929 How would making something stronger make people less likely to use it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:34:18 2015 No.2336013 >>2335983 >unless they have under 100 hp

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:35:13 2015 No.2336016 >>2336013 so literally 90% of the time

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:37:02 2015 No.2336020 >>2336013 Again, how does ADDING AN ABILITY decrease the chance of using something?

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:58:06 2015 No.2336059

>>2336020
BECAUSE SAID ABILITY IS WASTED if you dont need healing, as it does not overheal past 100.
I didnt say it would be used less OVERALL, just over 100 hp, because it would be even more of a waste to use it then.
I honestly dont see what is so hard to understand about this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:14:59 2015 No.2336084 >>2336016 With melee, sure, but Blaz is pretty much unkillable at range. If you only use the arm cannon + draining bolas you should be at full health like 90% of the time unless you're getting hit nonstop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:25:44 2015 No.2336095 >>2336084 >draining bolas think for a minute, anon there is a serious flaw in the scenario you're proposing

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:40:14 2015 No.2336120 >>2336095 You can still rack up energy with spear/knife and only get near weak enemies for the draining slash. Obviously more balanced but still nowhere near being at full health only one tenth of the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:54:03 2015 No.2336130 >>2334767 Threshold of Pain and of course Unloved

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:56:56 2015 No.2336135 >>2335617 GMOTA sucks

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 14:10:23 2015 No.2336157 NEW THREAD >>2336154 >>2336154 >>2336154

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 15:02:52 2015 No.2336237 >>2335773 >>2335781 That's sort of the entire point, and where Chillax 2 fucks up. Chillax 2 is not a chillax sequel. It's pretending to be. Chillax steals maps and stuffs it full of monsters. That's the entire point. and the reasoning for a name.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 13:49:15 2015 No.2338142 I hope senpai notices me.

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