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10543834 No.10543834 [Reply] [Original]

This is the best first person shooter ever made.
>some of the best AI in any shooter: enemies can shoot, throw grenades, dodge, roll, juke, take cover, switch cover, bait and lure you, coordinate with each other, even get angry or scared. you feel like you're fighting sentient creatures with a sense of self preservation, and not just cardboard cutouts.
>enemy types, positioning and the tactics used by enemies change every time you play, meaning no firefight ever plays out the same way twice. endless replayability with skill-intensive gameplay that will challenge even veteran players and cannot be wholly memorized.
>graphics are still beautiful 20 years later with lushg landscapes and moody, chilly brutalistic architecture
>butter smooth animations, all sorts of fancy lighting and particle effects, killer music and voice acting... presentation is superb
>impressive physics system, real time rendered projectiles, enemies react realistically to being shot, insanely long object/decal permanence, tons of attention to detail
>balanced weapon system that prioritizes strategy and critical thinking (low IQ shitters who think the pistol is the only viable weapon need not apply)
>timeless multiplayer
Let me make something very clear: every game commonly said to be better than Halo CE is trash. It's almost astounding to me that somebody could call a game like Halo "baby's first FPS" while defending garbage made by id, Epic, Valve or Rare. Your average id shooter fan would get absolutely fucking raped on Legendary. Halo CE's gameplay is so incredibly cerebral compared to shit like DOOM or Quake (the allegedly "hardcore" shooters) that it isn't even funny. Halo 2 is what spawned the casual, consolebaby mountain dew and doritos culture of Halo. Not Halo CE. Halo CE is a solid gold 10/10 game that should be held amongst the likes of Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. It is, in every conceivable way, a better game than anything which preceeded or succeeded it.

>> No.10543839 [DELETED] 

Halo gets shit later on when you're walking through endless corridors that are all the same.

Also like Half-Life its influence has done more bad than good

>> No.10543840

>>10543834
>the AI
this always impressed me. they had some really talented people dedicated to just getting that to be as good as possible.

>> No.10543843

>>10543839
>Halo gets shit later on when you're walking through endless corridors that are all the same.
Nothing is without its flaws, but this is literally one level in the game and way, way overblown. Also the last few levels are great.

Halo probably had a negative influence, but I don't care. It doesn't detract from its own merits

>> No.10543846
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>>10543834
the ai is bad
regenerating health is retarded
only being able to carry 2 weapons makes each replay the same
the campaign uses copy-pasted rooms
you move in slow motion and space jump
auto-aim makes the weapons feel like shit

everyone that loves halo had it as their first fps

>> No.10543847

Agreed. The multiplayer is still fun too. Custom Edition always brings the warm fuzzies

>> No.10543850

>>10543846
>the ai is bad
stopped reading there. you are fucking retarded.

>> No.10543860 [DELETED] 

>>10543839
>Also like Half-Life its influence has done more bad than good
what were its (and half-life's) negative influences

>> No.10543862

>>10543846
>the AI is bad
By being objectively better than any shooter you could name other than MAYBE shit that game out years later? What are you smoking?
>regenerating health is retarded
Did you actually play the game? Because your health doesn't regenerate.
>the campaign uses copy-pasted rooms
Halo's environments are ridiculously more varied and realistic than anything in shit like DOOM which are, literally, copy pasted brown and grey cubes.
>you move in slow motion and space jump
That's not inherently bad, what a stupid criticsm. By the way, you don't actually move slowly at all.
>auto-aim makes the weapons feel like shit
So use a mouse and turn it off you retarded faggot
>everyone that loves halo had it as their first fps
My first shooter was DOOM 2 that I played around '96. I had also played Quake 2, Quake 3, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Timesplitters 2 and Unreal before ever touching Halo and I still like it more than any of those games. You are an idiot.

>> No.10543870

>>10543839
>you're walking through endless corridors that are all the same.
This is Doom to a T and no one says it.

>> No.10543871 [DELETED] 

>>10543860
they turned games into movies

>> No.10543883 [DELETED] 

>>10543870
doom has survived on le epic reddit rip and tear memes... and mods. if people were forced to play nothing but doom's vanilla campaign over snd over, it would have been forgotten like a fart in the wind. meanwhile halo's campaign is timeless. halo is literally so good that it still inspires butthurt 20 years later even though it has a miniscule modding community and all of its appeal is built on a short campaign and a few multiplayer maps.

>> No.10543890

Deus ex is better, and it's only just fine.

>> No.10543897

>>10543890
>candybar simulator
>better than fucking CE
unironic mental illness. Deus Ex is a fucking trash can. not the same genre anyway.

>> No.10543903

>>10543871
>Halo turned games into movies by having a few 30 second cutscenes despite being more open and non-linear than most shooters that came before it

>> No.10543904

>>10543897
You would think that.

>> No.10543906 [DELETED] 

>>10543904
you would dilate.

>> No.10543913

>>10543906
Why, corridor enthusiast?

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>>10543913
>Why
probably because you're a tranny that strokes his prolapsed anus to a game made by a filthy jew that's filled with soft disclosure and has some of the shittiest shooting of any uhh "shooter" ever made
also check out these epic corridors bro

>> No.10543920

>>10543834
>It is, in every conceivable way, a better game than anything which preceeded or succeeded it.
jesus. I like Halo, it’s one of my personal favorites, but this blind fanboyism annoys me no matter what game people are jizzing themselves over.
Halo isn’t some misunderstood masterpiece where people get filtered by aspects they think are bad because they haven’t taken the time to understand them (example: Super Metroid and people complaining the controls are slow, when they’re actually incredibly complex and responsive if a player takes the time to learn them).
The biggest complaint with Halo, the repeated level geometry in the missions in the second half, is an actual problem caused by rushed development towards the end of the project thanks to a strict deadline. It’s a problem the devs themselves have talked about wishing they could have addressed.
The repeated level geometry is a very exaggerated problem, it’s not nearly as annoying as some people make it out to be, but the game isn’t a flawless 10/10 either.

At the same time, Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time aren’t flawless 10/10 games either. Idk. This idea of a canon of 10/10 games is frustrating.
10/10 implies some kind of perfection.
Maybe “Five Star” I like better, I could call Halo, Mario 64, and Ocarina “Five Star” games, because they are some of the very best, but by the fractional rating system they’re all 9/10’s at most.

>> No.10543925 [DELETED] 

>>10543920
didn't read past the first line, can already tell you're a midwit nice guy centrist with room temperature opinions on everything. please kill yourself you convictionless queer.

>> No.10543927

>>10543917
Concession accepted, corridor enthusiast. You'd understand by thinking figuratively.

>> No.10543928 [DELETED] 

>>10543927
>Concession accepted
more like HRT accepted lol

>> No.10543930

>>10543928
Kek

>> No.10543935

>>10543928
Corridor obsession much

>> No.10543936 [DELETED] 

>>10543935
is that why you're the only one talking about corridors? what's with you trannies these days?

>> No.10543942 [DELETED] 

>>10543936
I'm making fun of your neovagina corridor obsession. It's okay if you don't understand, that's the point.

>> No.10543952

>>10543925
Opinions aren’t one dimensional things laid out on a straight line stretching from left to right with “centrist” in the middle.
Blind fanboyism is annoying.
You’re annoying.

>> No.10543959

>>10543942
>you have a """neovagina corridor obsession""" because i brought up corridors in a discussion about one of the most open, non-linear shooters of its era
>but my game made by an actual jew at a company founded by a guy that shouts "trans rights" on video streams is way less gay, chud
whoa, man oh man. one day you're going to look back and feel shame and embarassment for posting this kind of stuff. JFC dude.

>> No.10543965

>>10543952
>Blind fanboyism
Code for "opinion I don't like"

>> No.10543972

>>10543903
how on earth is halo nonlinear lmao

>> No.10543974

>>10543959
That's a lot of anger in response to a differing stance. Again, bringing up dilation for no reason in response is because you're a corridor enthusiast; Try thinking figuratively, and failing that, learn to take a joke.

>> No.10543975

>>10543972
you'd know if you had actually played the game. now it's time to wait for your witty reddit zinger retort so i can instill you with false confidence before showing you actual examples from the game, thereby increase your butthurt. it's your move, pedophile.

>> No.10543978 [DELETED] 

>>10543974
>merely pretending
you're en embarassing human dude. enjoy your cucked matrix knockoff made by a jew and a transexual.

>> No.10543986

>>10543978
You should proofread before posting and make a point while you're at it. Or you can continue to blindfire, I'm sure you'll feel like a winner if you keep at it eventually. This conversation is clearly over lmfao

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Not as good as black

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>>10543986

>> No.10544004

>>10543994
Hilariously bad game. This is the kind of shit that parents would buy when they were trying to be the "cool parent", but still too retarded and out of touch to buy an actual good game. Fun fact, the guy who made this made a sequel called Bodycount on PS3/360 that bombed. In an interview he said Lady Gaga was one of his big influences.

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>>10543995

>> No.10544012
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>>10544009

>> No.10544015

>>10543834
the only good halo campaign

>> No.10544017

>>10544015
Halo as a series is dog water. Halo CE though, is fine wine.

>> No.10544028

>>10544015
>>10544017
dual wielding ruined the series. CE had a nice roster of well-balanced weapons each with a niche to fill. then Halo 2 came along and basically turned the series into capeshit and introduced a bunch of stylenover substance bullshit like dual wielding. dual wielding meant every smallernweapon had to be gimped tongive you a reason to dual wield to begin with. completely ruined the magnum and then introduced the BR which was infinitely more overpowered and has plagued the series since it was introduced. they had the right idea with ODST and Halo 4, trying to go back to the roots a bit. but they could never recapture the serenity of CE's environments or the perfection of its systems.

>> No.10544063

>>10543975
how on earth is halo nonlinear lmao

>> No.10544074

When Halo came out, I had been heavily playing Quake for about 5 years, Quake 2 for 4 years, and Half-Life: DM (and TLC and CS) for 3 years. Not to mention Unreal Tournament for 3 years as well.

So I was used to rapid, high-speed deathmatch. I was also used to precise aiming with your mouse as a basic skill. I was also used to tight movement mechanics like strafe jumping.

In comparison, in Halo it felt like Master Chief was an obese smoker. He walks at a snails pace. The auto-aim was also super lame and took away a massive part of what I considered FPS skill.

Nah, I'm good bro. I don't need Halo here. (Yes, I have the same general complaints about GoldenEye, though I did like it better than Halo.)

>> No.10544080 [DELETED] 

>>10543906
>>10543917
>>10543928
>>10543936
Ironic that the halofagis accusing others of being trannies

>> No.10544089

>>10543965
I consider Halo to be one of the greatest games ever made, but calling it better than anything ever made before or since is unreasonable.

>> No.10544092

I played Halo 1 for the first time a while ago, and I didn't like it. The combat is simple and bullet-sponge. The level design is mediocre. I was honestly so disappointed that I switched on Quake 1 after about 40 minutes.

>> No.10544116

>>10544092
no u

>> No.10544124 [DELETED] 

Gayke was never good

>> No.10544146

>>10544124
Eat my gayke dorknozzle

>> No.10544260
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This is the best first person shooter ever made.
>some of the best AI in any shooter: enemies can shoot, throw grenades, clamber, roll, juke, take cover, switch cover, bait and lure you, coordinate with each other, even get angry or scared. you feel like you're fighting sentient creatures with a sense of self preservation, and not just cardboard cutouts.
>enemy types, positioning and the tactics used by enemies change every time you play, meaning no firefight ever plays out the same way twice. endless replayability with skill-intensive gameplay that will challenge even veteran players and cannot be wholly memorized.
>graphics are still modest 22 years later with lushg landscapes and moody, chilly brutalistic architecture
>butter animations, all sorts of fancy lighting and particle effects, killer music, and voice acting... presentation is superb
>impressive physics system, real time rendered projectiles, enemies react realistically to being shot, insanely long object/decal permanence, tons of attention to detail
>balanced weapon system that prioritizes strategy and critical thinking (low IQ shitters who think the pistol is the only viable weapon need not apply)
>timeless multiplayer
Let me make something very clear: every game commonly said to be better than Operation Flashpoint is trash. It's almost astounding to me that somebody could call a game like Operation Flashpoint "baby's first FPS" while defending garbage made by id, Bungie, Valve or Rare. Your average id shooter fan would get absolutely fucking raped on Hard. OFP's gameplay is so incredibly cerebral compared to shit like DOOM or Halo (the allegedly "hardcore" shooters) that it isn't even funny. DayZ is what spawned the casual, consolebaby mountain dew and doritos culture of Arma. Not OFP. Operation Flashpoint is a solid gold 10/10 game that should be held amongst the likes of Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. It is, in every conceivable way, a better game than anything which preceeded it.

>> No.10544369

>>10543871
You're thinking of Dragon's Lair

>> No.10544412

>>10544063
by having several open-ended levels. problem?

>> No.10544426 [DELETED] 

>>10544260
This is actually quite clever. Do you see what was done here? This individual repeated OP's post with minor changes that reflect his preference of Operation Flashpoint instead of Halo, thereby undermining OP's opinion. It's actually quite clever. You can take my upvote, fellow redditor.

EDIT: Thanks for the reddit silver, kind stranger!

>> No.10544471 [DELETED] 

>>10543920
Anon 5/5 and 10/10 are equivalent fractions you retard.

American education.

>> No.10544474

>>10544471
that anon is a retard but it has nothing to do with being american. rent free, muhammed.

>> No.10544520

>>10544426
>OP makes a bold claim using loose and sloppy arguments.
>show that an identical series of arguments can be used for a counterpoint while being no-less logical
>proceed to sperg out like an autistic faggot in response.
stay mad :^)

>> No.10544528 [DELETED] 

>>10544520
>a short tongue in cheek response is "sperging" but meticulously rewriting OP's entire essay is somehow less gay
that's going to be a yikes from me, guy

>> No.10544547

>>10543834
Not with a controller no lol

>> No.10544549

>>10544547
>with a controller
oh no, it's retarded

>> No.10544557

>>10544412
it literally doesn't though? is this some kind of weak bait

>> No.10544564

>>10543834
Ok, you convinced me OP, Ill try Halo. Have in mind that I like every FPS you shat on in your post. Should I judt get the PC version of Halo? Where can I get it?

>> No.10544569

>>10544557
>it literally doesn't though?
first off, that's a statement, not a question. please stop talking like a woman.
>is this some kind if weak bait?
do you have some kind of crooked penis? the first really level of the game ('Halo') has you explore a bug valley looking for several crashed ships. you can explore the valley and rescue the ships in whatever order you choose. another example, Silent Cartographer, is a literal island that you can explore and approach however you want. these are just a few examples. i wouldn't call Halo CE as an entire game "non-linear" but it absolutely affords greater freedom than games like Quake did. there are several open ended levels and levels with more than one route. play the game.

>> No.10544573

>>10544564
1. google "gamesnostalgia Halo"
2. download the game from gamesnostalgia
3. google "so you want to play halo pc in 2017"
4. look at the instructions for where it says "download chimera". click that link. on the page, click to download chimera. extract the contents of the chimera rar to the halo root folder.
5. click halo.exe, play, enjoy. start on normal or heroic, if you try legendary your first time you will get anally raped and filtered fast.

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Good Yule, everynyan.
Here's another screenshot from Dia Base, my upcoming Quake 2 Remaster singleplayer-map.
I hope to get it done soon. Next year will be rough.

>> No.10544616 [DELETED] 

>>10544615
wrong thread, doomgen tranny

>> No.10544623

Halo CE is unironically the white man's shooter. I was about 11 when it came out, I was in boy scouts and I remember a few of the older guys had Xboxes and would talk about Halo or even bring their consoles/TVs to camping trips (if we were staying at a lodge at with electricity). Every single dude I ever met that liked that game ended up married, successful and happy. They were always just super friendly, clean guys. Honest, salt of the earth military men types. I was always so fucking jealous that I never had an Xbox and Halo. I finally played it when I got older and had my own money and I've loved it ever since. The whole game just oozes a positive vibe.

>> No.10544860

>>10544528
>ctrl+v and replacing keywords in under 30 seconds is meticulously rewriting a post
once again it's shown that gaylo zealots are all retarded zoomers without exception.

>> No.10544867

>>10544860
>replacing keywords
you completely changed several sentences and did not copy paste anything. you are butthurt and gay.

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>you completely changed several sentences and did not copy paste anything. you are butthurt and gay.

>> No.10544879 [DELETED] 

>>10544873
>soijak
you gave up

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>>10544879
>>>10544873
>>soijak
>you gave up

>> No.10544887 [DELETED] 

>>10544883
cool bro

>> No.10545575

>>10543839
Halo didn't influence anything.

>> No.10545745 [DELETED] 

>>10544616
hi jew

>> No.10545765

>>10543917
>check out these wildlife corridors bro
That's right, wildlife corridors are corridors.
>>10544569
>i wouldn't call Halo CE as an entire game "non-linear"
Agreed, see above example bro.

>> No.10546060

>>10545765
you are medically retarded

>> No.10546104 [DELETED] 

>>10545745
fun fact: doom guy is canonically a jew. fitting that he was designed by a tranny

>> No.10546231

>>10546060
Dull knives don't cut.

>> No.10546256

>>10546231
... and open fields are not corridors

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>>10546256
You're thinking of building hallways, simple as your bluster. Wildlife corridors naturally form within natural and unnatural landscape features.

>> No.10546314

>>10546313
>tfw every FPS ever made is a corridor shooter
i guess that solves it

>> No.10546412

>>10546314
Every passageway is a figurative and/or tangible corridor. It's clear you got lost on the conversational plot by filling your empty bucket head with hot lead; Read the thread, rather, "retrace your treads" ya narcissistic shithead.

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>>10546412
i can't tell if you're baiting or retarded so i'll just assume both. guess i'll go play my favorite corridor shooter now.

>> No.10546594

>>10543834
Anybody feel like playing? PC version obviously.

>> No.10546684

>>10546594
COME PLAY FAGGOTS
192.168.0.7:2302
server is called "4chan /vr/ Halo"
No gay mods or anything, just classic Halo CE goodness. Come on and join!

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>>10546590
People didn't care for your favourite game and your response was bombastic bogeyman bluster rather than using forums for their intended purpose of discussing differing opinions, unintentionally demonstrating your favourite game is most enjoyed by emotionally stunted squeakers such as yourself. There was no bait, you're embarassing all on your own.

>> No.10546887

>>10546865
>semen reaction pic
cringe

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>> No.10546895

>>10546891
to be fair, PC had command and conquer renegade in feb 2002

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>>10546895
And xcom enforcer

>> No.10546919

>>10546887
>>10543995 would say that

>> No.10546928

>>10546919
leonard nimoy mad. leonard nimoy smash.

>> No.10546935

>>10546918
and NOLF

>> No.10546937

>>10546891
>stale and sorry

I don't get it. What exactly are these screenshots supposed to be making me feel based on the retarded and arbitrary biases of the coping console kiddie?

>> No.10546943

>>10546937
I wonder why tribes isn't on there.

>> No.10546950

>>10546928
Feel better soon.

>> No.10546952

>>10546943
Is the only tribes you know ascend?

>> No.10546954

>>10546950
thanks leonard

>> No.10546963

>>10543834
worst level design of any game ever possibly, unforgivable copy paste with no direction or indication of where to go. total shit. red faction is a better space themed fps from the same year. halo 1 is trash.

>> No.10546965

The whole game is undermined by the shitty weapons that feel like peashooters (except the pistol)
The shitty SMG takes 50 eons to kill one of the big alien dudes on the first level. And this is 2 minutes after introducing Master Chief as humanity's strongest supersoldier.

>> No.10546969

>>10546963
>unforgivable copy paste with no direction or indication of where to go.
if you got lost in this game, you are legit retarded. also funny that you'd call it "copy paste" when red faction is a bunch of underground tunnel environments repeated ad nauseum. what an idiot.

>> No.10546972

>>10546965
you don't understand how the weapons work. assault rifle is not a long range weapon, it's for mopping up groups of trash enemies in close quarters. it also depends entirely on difficulty, as you can kill an elite in like 3 sec with the AR on easy but need nearly 2 clips to do it on legendary. the pistol, sniper, rocket snd shotgun alone have insta-kill potential and that's half the weapon roster right there so you sound like you just suck at the game.

>> No.10546973

>>10546952
That's not from 2001 lol lmao

>> No.10546982

>>10546972
You're that one retard who replies to every single post in halo threads aren't you? You're a fucking retard with no sense of good gunplay. You don't need to make enemies bullet sponges in higher difficulties to make them threatening, which was a glaring issue even on Quake 1. No, nobody thinks of switching to the fucking starting pistol to deal more damage than an assault rifle on the average enemy you encounter from the first level onwards. You get a new weapon, you get its use-case right away to make a powerful first impression for people who first play the game on the harder difficulties. People who like FPS don't start on easy mode, you fucking mongrel.
Marathon had better guns right off the bat anyway.

>> No.10546986

>>10546972
I'd say you should internalize the point being made before responding, your comprehension sucks as much as the driving.

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>>10546891
I can do that too.

>> No.10547001

>>10546990
Few if any of those are exclusive.

>> No.10547003

>>10546982
that's a long way of saying you just couldn't git gud. pistol is bread and butter but sucks at crowd control, AR is for small mobs, sniper is for distance and high damage but sucks at CQC, etc. your inability to learn each weapon's strengths is not the game's fault. the truth is that you were filtered by legendary and went back to games filled with 1 hit trash enemies like DOOM because it's where you feel comfortable.

>> No.10547018

>>10547003
>learn each wepon's strengths
The SMG in Half-Life alone is effective 50% of all encounters and doesn't have to be shitty against Vortigaunts to excel against HECU grunts.
Dumb nigger.

>> No.10547028

>>10547018
>every game needs to have balancing like half life or it sucks
pretty retarded argument.
there's nothing wrong with "hey the AR will kill shit enemies quickly but won't be the most effective weapon for a larger 1v1 encounter". you're basically sperging because the weapons have nuance instead of adhering to some retarded jack of all trades design philosophy. i would be very interested to see you play CE on legendary and how you'd fare. i imagine you would try to bruteforce everything and get frustrated, meanwhile neglecting strategies that would trivialize encounters. this would, of course, require actually learning how the weapons worked and being good at video games which... we know aren't your strong suits

>> No.10547043

>>10547028
When you grant your own premise anything is possible. You're illiterate, don't understand weapon design, and masturbate to arby 'n' the chief

>> No.10547058

>>10547043
>no argument
where did the big bad master chief touch you? the penis? the buttock? there's really no reason for you to act like this. you don't need to cling to jank late 90s PC shooters anymore bro, halo has been on PC for 20 years. you can play it now. just stop acting like a faggot and go download the game (since we both know that's what you actually want to do). if it makes you feel any better, i didn't even give CE a proper chance until 2018, long after playing everything from doom and quake to goldeneye and timesplitters. you didn't miss out anything, because it's still right here. open your heart and experience true combat... evolved.

>> No.10547062 [DELETED] 

>>10543839
Based

>> No.10547070

>>10543834
>HALO CE should be held amongst the likes of Super Mario 64 and OOT
It is, and just like those titles there are idiots, contrarians and zoomers who will call it trash, but since you're an idiot contrarian zoomer is calling doom and quake trash, I just think you should be quiet and express your opinions less often.

>> No.10547074 [DELETED] 

>>10547070
>no IP change
are you really so mad that you need to samefag like this? log off bro. just log off.

>> No.10547076

>>10543834
>It is in every way better than every game that proceeded It or succeed it
Oh I get it, you're just a fanboy

>> No.10547080

>>10547058
Not the anon you were talking to, already did months ago. Got bored of its corny atmosphere and gameplay, but I can see why your desperate corny ass is seeking approval for loving it so much. Embarassing

>> No.10547084 [DELETED] 

>>10547080
lol
i get it, that big blonde kid on the football team who bullied you in highschool had an xbox. it isn't master chief's fault. download the game.

>> No.10547098 [DELETED] 

>>10547074
>No IP change
Did you know that poor pattern recognition is a symptom of Autism?

>> No.10547105 [DELETED] 

>>10547098
>a symptom of autism
so is pretending to be 4 different people in the spam of 10 minutes because you're mad about a 21 year old xbox game.
anyway...
https://gamesnostalgia.com/game/halo-combat-evolved
there it is bro. it's right there. all you have to do is click, and Chad's favorite highschool shooter experience is right at your fingertips. do it. you know you want to.

>> No.10547112 [DELETED] 

>>10547084
You can't even read half a paragraph without missing info cuz you're such a tryhard, kek

>> No.10547113

>>10547001
>Rogue Spear
Exclusive

>Operation Flashpoint
Exclusive

>Duke Nukem 3D
Was exclusive for a year before being ported to the Saturn.

>Dark Forces 2
Exclusive

>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Exclusive for 2 years before being ported to consoles.

>Ghost Recon
Was exclusive for a year.

>Half Life
Ported 3 years later.

>Delta Force 2
Exclusive.

So literally half the games were permanent exclusives, the other half were exclusives for years until being ported. You're really fucking shit at math.

>> No.10547118 [DELETED] 

>>10547112
i read what you said, i just think you're being a faggot and i realize that this is all a freudian ploy to avoid playing a game you'd like just because you have some weird negative association with it.

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>>10547113
nobody wanted to play delta farts or rogue spear, pc standards are bottom of the barrel.

>> No.10547125

>>10543834
>Your average id shooter fan would get absolutely fucking raped on Legendary.

I beat Halo on Legendary when I was 12. I'm STILL too afraid to even attempt Doom on Nightmare.

>> No.10547126 [DELETED] 

>>10547118
And you just think that because you're a narcissist that can't handle people don't like your favorite game. Also Magipack is a better host lol noob.

>> No.10547129 [DELETED] 

>>10547125
>still no IP change
how does one game buckbreak somebody this badly?

>> No.10547137 [DELETED] 

>>10546990
>pcfats coping with shitty games just to get by

sad

>> No.10547139 [DELETED] 

>>10547126
>And you just think that because you're a narcissist that can't handle people don't like your favorite game
i think people don't like my favorite game because i think i'm a narcassist? that doesn't make much sense. it sounds like something you wrote hastily, and out of anger. you should play some Halo: Combat Evolved and cool off.
>Magipack is a better host
it's a 400mb download with all patches applied. i'm literally gifting you your highschool bully's source of sexual power and you're quabbling over "hosts". bizarre behavior, friend.

>> No.10547143 [DELETED] 

>>10547129
>Everyone is one person
Now you're paranoid too. How's the server? Nice and lively I'm sure.

>> No.10547146 [DELETED] 

>>10547143
>Everyone is one person
that's generally how samefagging works

>> No.10547147

>>10547123
>no one wants to play rogue spear
>then goes on to post a screenshot of the vomit-puke dogshit Dreamcast that only retards bought and no one wanted to play as the "port"
Lmao'ing at ur life m8

>> No.10547149 [DELETED] 

>>10547139
Not because you think you're a narcissist, because you are one. Again, trash reading comprehension. I already downloaded it from magipack months ago and didn't care for it, you'd know this if your narcissistic personality hadn't blinded you from the criticism.

>> No.10547151 [DELETED] 

>>10547129
>still no IP change

Nice attempt at pretending to know what you're talking about.

>> No.10547157

>>10546990
>thinking anyone wants to play any of these
Rofl

>> No.10547160

>>10546990
Pfft, none of those games are good.

>> No.10547163

>>10547001
>>10547137
>>10547146
>>10547160
Console kiddies malding gets me hard.

>> No.10547169

>>10547003
Why are you lying dude? The Pistol is the only weapon you need in the entire game in Halo.

>> No.10547171

I love Halo, it was the Goldeneye of its era. Only really remembered for its local multiplayer

>> No.10547174 [DELETED] 

>>10547149
>Again, trash reading comprehension
i'm going to take a short break from clowning on you to inform you that what you wrote was flat out grammatically incorrect. being an ESL in a white man's world is hard, i'm sure, but you need to step it up. now, back to the show:
>abloo bloo bix nood i done download dem magikpak dem months ago bix nood
so you're the same faggot that spreads his diarrhea-covered buttcheeks in every halo thread. that makes a lot of sense. however, it doesn't solve your underlying issue, which is really one of post-traumatic stress induced by a tall blonde man bullying you in highschool. therapy suggested? playing Halo: Combat Evolved.

>> No.10547176

>>10547171
It's singleplayer was more fun. I played multiplayer exclusively on the PC back then.

>> No.10547182

>>10547163
me too, that's why i love reminding them that the PC has the best version of Halo: Combat Evolved.

>> No.10547187 [DELETED] 

>>10547105
>4 different people
Except I'm not that anon and yet you autistically assumed I was several posts back. Stop it. Get some help.

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>>10547187
I'm sorry for what I did to you. You have my permission to play Halo: Combat Evolved.
- Chad

>> No.10547196 [DELETED] 

>>10547174
>And you just think that
>because you're a narcissist
>that can't handle
>people don't like your favorite game
Maybe if you read slower... you would understand how you read it incorrectly:
>i think people don't like my favorite game
>because i think i'm a narcassist?
Proofread before posting lard-o-tard. Maybe read in general before responding.

By the way, this >>10547171 was me making fun of you and you didn't even realise it. Halo was best remembered for its local multiplayer, and yet you don't have friends so you feel a need to seek some anon that will play online with you, like the dorkiest mating call in history.

>> No.10547197 [DELETED] 

Acceptable fps to like: Doom, Quake, Unreal, Duke, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Dark Forces, Marathon, Cybermage, Strife, Hexen, Heretic, Sin, Shogo
Unacceptable: Half Life, COD, Halo, Nu Doom, Nu Wolfenstein, Serious Sam, Goldeneye, Timesplitters, FEAR, Perfect Dark, Overwatch, Counter Strike, Battlefield, MOH

>> No.10547201 [DELETED] 

>>10547196
man i'm sorry but that formatting is cancer. try again and i'll consider giving it a read. anyway, please refer to >>10547194

>> No.10547203

>>10546891
Halo was barely acknowledged by PC gamers and games at all. Console gamers loved it but I don't remember PC gamers back in the day discussing it at all.

>> No.10547204 [DELETED] 

What's the rpgcodex consensus?

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>>10547201
Speak for yourself.

>> No.10547207 [DELETED] 

>>10547197
>acceptable: games made by unironic, literal jews, cucks, trannies and zionista
>unacceptable: games made by heterosexual white man
This says a lot

>> No.10547221

>>10546891
Halo was so amazingly successful on PC, they stopped porting it after Halo 2.

>> No.10547226

>>10547221
they realized you only need CE

>> No.10547229 [DELETED] 

>>10547207
What, that you're gay for ubermensch? Is that why you download pictures of them and imagine they're your high school bully you secretly crushed on, faggot?

>> No.10547230 [DELETED] 

>>10547207
>literal jews
Which ones?

Doom, Quake, Unreal, Duke 3D, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Dark Forces, Marathon, Hexen, Heretic, and Strife weren't made by jews. Not sure about the others.

>> No.10547232 [DELETED] 

>>10547229
What?

>> No.10547234 [DELETED] 

2000s FPS are ALL TRASH. Growing up being blown away by the games of the 90s on PC & console, including the many great FPS, I was a hopeful seeker of new experiences thoroughly addicted, which led to a road of suffering through all the shite of the 2000s. All the time spent playing retard-tier 2000s FPS is one of my biggest gaming shames & regrets. The people championing them in this thread I assume either don't know better or are simply retarded. Something I find fascinating is there is not a single FPS in the 2000s that meets 90s gameplay standards. Just endless linear, repetitive, braindead shit. You'd think there would be one exception, but no, all the glory completely abandoned. There is but one exception that came close, and that is the Stalker games, though they're still not quite my ideal. Yet they're the only ones I consider remotely monocled of that decade, and worthy of a gaming historian's time. 90s FPS glory: -Genuine Challenge -Resource management (health, armor, ammo for 10+ guns, often minor inventory) -Non-linear level design that requires a little brainpower to navigate, as well as allows for multiple approaches. -Environmental hazards and puzzle elements -Platforming and climbing -projectile-based combat. 2000s on the other hand all hitscan hell. -Notable degree of environmental interactivity. -Huge enemy rosters with diverse behaviors, not just all human enemies and maybe a few extras if you're lucky. -Sometimes even entire optional/secret levels. -Swimming, or even freeform flying. (this is of course without going into the other side of the monocle coin with 90s realism-based tactical shooters, like System Shock, Deus Ex, Rainbow 6 or whatever).

>> No.10547238 [DELETED] 

>>10547230
>Duke 3D
>Ken "Oy Vey" (((Silverman)))
many such cases.
wait till you find out that Romero is raising another dude's son and advocateas for trannies weekly on his game streams

>> No.10547239

>>10547234
Each 90s game had a twist on this formula, either small or a big twist, but retained the core standards defined by the mighty doom (for the most part).
Quite the design formula that made FPS a great genre. Prestigious. Actually demanded something from the player, moderately deep gameplay. FUN in abundance. All turned into linear shooting galleries with zero substance, graphics & realism emphasis over gameplay, laughable attempts to tell a story. To enjoy this shit you have to have a simple mind.

Certain ignorant people love to blame consoles for the decline, but that's horseshit when PC devs were largely the trend setters of the genre (Valve, id & Ion Storm were basically considered the kings), 90s console FPS were largely great too (NOT Goldeneye though it was ok at best), and there's not a single 2000s PC FPS that retained old gold standards, whether multiplatform or designed specifically for the PC. Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Unreal 2, Call of Duty, Quake 4, Bioshock, just endless SHIT.

Outside of Stalker, I cannot happily recommend a single 2000s FPS among all the trash I played. I could recommend a select few in the 7-8/10 (at best) range, but why bother when there's many better games to play?

And yes, Deus Ex is technically a 2000s game, but fuck off that game is 90s through an through, pretty much the culmination of a particular breed of 90s design standards, spent the majority of its dev time in the 90s. It's the ultimate end-game 90s game to top off the golden decade.

>> No.10547243

>>10547239
The decline was so bad that the 2000s was Third Person Shooters's decade. There are many legit good TPS in the 2000s by comparison, before Epic games ruined it all towards the end of the decade with Gears of War. I consider them far more worthy to talk about:

Duke Nukem: Zero Hour
The Punisher
GUN
Dead Space
Max Payne
Max Payne 2
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 5
The Saboteur
Destroy All Humans 2
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Shadowgrounds
Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Red Dead Revolver
FF7: Dirge of Cerberus
The Suffering
The Suffering 2
Syphon Filter 2
Mafia
Mafia 2

Even the fucking 50 Cent game was more interesting than the majority of 2000s garbage FPS.

Sure some of these are rather mediocre too but 2000s TPS > 2000s FPS. FACT.

>> No.10547247 [DELETED] 

>>10547232
That's a yes, lmfao.
>>10547238
>one example
Good thinking, your time would be better spent paying for an ubermensch escort to play halo with you, ya sad corny loner.

>> No.10547248

>>10547239
Make playing the following 90s greats

Duke 3D
Shadow Warrior
Blood
Quake
Doom 1/2
System Shock 2
Deus Ex

An absolute priority for peak first person gaming, then branch out from there once you have more acquired taste & understanding (Arx Fatalis, Unreal, Half-Life, Turok 1 & 2, Doom 64, Quake 2, Heretic, Descent, Ashes 2063, System Shock 1 and on and on).

Half-Life would be in the required playing list but it has a habit of making people retarded, resulting in them desiring realism, graphics, set pieces & storytelling over monocled engaging deep gameplay (this is relevant because gameplay is ~95% of most game's running time, therefore if it is shit and you enjoy it you should be questioning your life choices or reevaluating your intelligence). It is required playing because it did those things very well while still offering a *decent* gameplay experience, but not required before experiencing the real deal and gaining perspective.

>> No.10547249 [DELETED] 

>>10547238
You said "jews" plural.

>wait till you find out that Romero
He's not jewish.

>> No.10547251 [DELETED] 

>>10547238
Ken Silverman made the Build Engine but only had a major part in Duke, Shadow Warrior, and a couple of others. Half-Life and Marathon not so much jews.

>> No.10547253

DOOM AND QUAKE BOARD ZOOMIES

>> No.10547256

>>10547234
>endless linear, repetitive, braindead shit.
similar to DOOM, then? a game about exploring repetitive brown, red and grey cubic environments populated by a small handful of enemies that you kill with the same 8 guns while sprinting through hundreds of tiny medical kits and packs of shotgun shells?

>> No.10547265

>>10547253
this board is filled with actual autistics and trannies so that may not be the win you think it is

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>>10547197
Fuck off nignog open ground shitter aka ALF!
>>10547234
You are just as bad and abrasive bitter a shitbag and waste of ovum as the other guy; YOU are nega-alf!

>> No.10547268

>>10547256
Man doom really does sound kind of shit when you put it that way

>> No.10547274

>>10547265
Im sorry your favorite fpses are shit

>> No.10547280 [DELETED] 

>>10547248
>>10547243
>>10547239
>>10547234
Based based based
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/half-life-is-shit.143035/&ved=2ahUKEwjU0sXLpK6DAxWiqJUCHW9mCNQ4ChAWegQIDxAB&usg=AOvVaw1g97XL90qLF_Hz87EuxpyJ
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/why-do-people-like-the-halo-games-so-much.27400/

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>>10547265
Autism, while not the same thing by default, can increase the possibility of GID in certain folks

>> No.10547285

>>10546990
based

>> No.10547287

>>10547274
i'm sorry you've deluded yourself into believing that yours aren't. enjoy your 2.5D medkit sprinting simulator with cardboard enemies and sprites for weapons while i induldge in kinoludo of the highest degree.

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OK samefag baby brain attention whore. You have your opinion, fine then. But you are no king for having them at all.
Fuck you very much Earl of nothingness

>> No.10547296

>OP reporting everyone that hurts his feelings
You won't need to worry about being bullied for being a self hating homosexual that enjoys corny FPS shit any longer. Halo 2 is better because of dual gun action anyways lmfao thread hidden

>> No.10547298

>>10547001
Only 3 of them were ported before November 15, 2001, and even then, all the ports were shitty and handicapped versions of the PC game. Console kiddies wouldn't be able to play an FPS that was as good as PC games until Halo.

>> No.10547304 [DELETED] 

>>10547296
>dual wielding
>not gay capeshit faggotry
oof

>> No.10547307 [DELETED] 

Why aren't halo kiddies banned from this board?

>> No.10547309

>>10547296
>dual gun action
BLOOD already did that.

>> No.10547312

>>10547307
Halo is 21 years old bro.

>> No.10547315

>>10547312
Uh...It's not 2022 anymore.

>> No.10547319

>>10547315
Sorry, I still live in 2022. I figured you'd understand since you still live in 2003.

>> No.10547323

>>10547309
bloods implementation of it as power up is terrible, even Golden Eye did it better.

>> No.10547329

>>10543846
I like Halo more than most FPS. My first FPS was Doom (which I also like). Halo has some fun weapons, and I like the addition of the vehicle gameplay. Not my favorite FPS overall though, that would be Jedi Academy (on PC). Lightsabers and force Powers are more fun than guns.

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>>10547304
How so fart huffing dickface!?

>> No.10547345 [DELETED] 

>>10547338
>do gay unrealistic thing because it looks le heckin ebin (even though it ruins gameplay balance and is extremely gay)
>why is it capeshit?
never respond to me again

>> No.10547346 [DELETED] 

>>10547028
>balancing like half life
Not even what I said, you knuckle-dragging chromossome burglar. Guns in shooters need to be powerful and fun to use, able to kill enemies just as fast as they can kill you with theirs, instead of being so shitty that you spend several minutes fighting one enemy at a time. Strong weapons are thrilling because you know they can put anyone down quickly including yourself. That's what makes a game exciting, and whatever slack-jawed idea of gunplay you have is worthless, you wouldn't know anything about it because you're a goddamn halotranny without any reading comprehension.
Halo's guns feel weak, then again so are you.
Kill yourself, pavement special.

>> No.10547351

>>10547346
damn, you sound pretty badass. can i get your ICQ?

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>>10547345
It's just a game, it doesn't have to emulate IRL with every other mechanic. Movies, most books and Video games are not real life baby brain shitbag Monkey on fentanyl and heroin!

>> No.10547392 [DELETED] 

funny how its always the same occasional, identical (and only) thread with outlandish claims of superiority where the halo fan"s" come to defend their sacred cow and get shat on for being so petulant with their narrative
no room in the fps thread huh? wonder why lmao

>> No.10547404

>>10547392
>one halo game sells more than every id software game combined
there goes your theory

>> No.10547405

Halo Is fun

>> No.10547410

>>10547392
Actual discussion scares the shitposters away

>> No.10547420

>>10547404
>liquid shit attracts more flies than plain water

>> No.10547421 [DELETED] 

>>10547410
true. doom niggers will never have an honest discussion about game mechanics because if they did, the myriad issues with their boom boom shooties would become glaringly apparent. instead they just want to call you a pleb for not playing a 2D shooter for 30 years, propped up on weird mods made by bisexual men with ponytails and pedophile glasses.

>> No.10547425

>>10547420
>diarrhea is better than water because fewer people drink it

>> No.10547432

>>10546684
Are you still here? I tried joining but no connection. I'd still play if you want

>> No.10547438

>>10547421
>boom boom shooties
>Doom is 2 or 2.5D
The cancer is strong in this one.
>weird mods made by Bisexual men with ponytails and pedo glasses
>Pedo glasses
What the fuck do you mean, even? what kind of brand of glasses and shoes mainly to pedos?

>> No.10547441

>>10547432
I just quit like 30m ago but ehh fuck it yeah let's play. Join now.
192.168.0.7:2302
COME ON faggots stop arguing about trannies and play some fucking ceee eee with your /vr/ bros