The Great Debate: Which is shittier?

[Anonymous No.9997579]

RE0 pros:
>Rebecca
>good atmosphere/aura for most if not the whole game
>looks gorgeous
>magnum is a deagle
>music is alright
>you can shit on the monster variety, but I like the monsters, even the leech marcus'
>it's a fixed angle RE game
RE0 cons:
>AI so retarded that you cant trust it to not waste ammo/heals (in b4 le you dont even need the AI - no one did that their first run) so it's better to clear certain rooms solo
>If Billy truly had to exist and be in the game, he should have been a supporting character like Barry was to Jill in RE1 and just fucking let me play as Rebecca the whole game
>I understand not wanting to have magic item boxes, but at least give me real survivor boxes so I don't have to drop stuff on the floor like a caveman
>the bat boss
>the leech magic man who unleashes the virus is beyond retarded

CVX pros:
>claire/chris story
>good atmosphere for most of the game
>it's a fixed angle RE game
>lots of weapons
>Alexia feels like a proper aristocratic villain
>Nosferatu music makes the fight feel very dark and grim
>the poison hunters are a nice touch, I'll never forget limping while poisoned and in danger status that one time
>has a hunting rifle and an ak
CVX cons:
>all momentum you gain as claire comes to an abrupt halt
>should play as claire OR chris in a separate runs like jill/chris and claire/leon
>grey dreary shithole non prerendered environments
>wesker is now neo but with a virus inside of him
>awful first person aiming sections
>final fight against alexia is cramped and awful, almost as bad as the bat from re0
>steve is hyper cringe

Probably missing a lot, but both of these games can never be better than 6/10, and I only like them because they are fixed angle RE games.

[Anonymous No.9997584]

>>9997579
RE4

[Anonymous No.9997587]

>>9997584
True, but that's not a real RE game and not relevant to the fixed angle conversation. This thread is only about real RE games.

[Anonymous No.9997594]

How is "Rebecca" pro? She's fucking stupid
>I could shoot, you know

[Anonymous No.9997605]

>>9997579
I'm sorry for not reading all of that anon but 0 is way worse than CV

[Anonymous No.9997612]

>>9997579
code veronica is a 10/10 and one of the strongest re titles
re 0 is 8/10

[Anonymous No.9997663]

>>9997612
>code veronica is a 10/10 and one of the strongest re titles
Nah m8 it's trash

[Anonymous No.9997680]

>>9997663
no, you’re an idiot who knows nothing about games

[Anonymous No.9997708]

>>9997680
Sure kid, and you're a genius with shit taste

[Anonymous No.9997872]

Rebecca is a negative against 0, not a positive.
She has 0 fucking health, a zombie scratch puts her at yellow caution, meanwhile Billy can take multiple bites, hunter pounces, tyrant slashes and still be fine.

[Anonymous No.9997874]

>>9997579
0, and it isn't even close. It's the only classic RE that is below good.

[Anonymous No.9997878]

>>9997872
She's cute though.

[Anonymous No.9997956]

>>9997872
Rebecca being so fragile is a game mechanic to contrast Billy. If the game was just Rebs, she would have larger hp pool for sure and be able to push heavier stuff lol

[Anonymous No.9997963]

>>9997579
I at least finished CV despite disliking it. I couldn't even force myself to finish Zero.

[Anonymous No.9997978]

0 Just for the item management shit. CV has a better story and more interesting characters.

[Anonymous No.9998137]

0 is better because Rebecca and no Steve

[Anonymous No.9998164]

~ 4channel's official Classic RE tierlist ~

God Tier:
Code Veronica

High Tier:
RE1

Mid Tier:
Nemesis

Low Tier:
RE2

Shit Tier:
RE0

[Anonymous No.9998171]

>>9997579
CV is mediocrity incarnate; the safe room music is the only thing with any real value in the whole game. It's a masterpiece compared to 0.

[Anonymous No.9998183]

>>9997579
The stories in both are gameruiningly retarded and the puzzles are made by retards who don't even understand the real-world objects being used in the puzzles because they've never gone outside, leading to the actual intuitively correct solutions being the wrong solutions. The backtracking and bosses are shite too. If I had to pick which is shittier, I'd say 0 because of the partner system.

[Anonymous No.9998689]

>>9998164
>God Tier:
>RE1, RE2, RE3, REmake 1
>High Tier:
>N/A
>Mid Tier:
>Dino Crisis
>Low Tier:
>CVX, RE0
>Shit Tier:
>RE4

[Anonymous No.9998715]

>>9997978
>CV has a better story and more interesting characters.

QRD?

[Anonymous No.9998718]

Code Veronica doesn't even exist.

Stop pretending it does, humanity is better off keeping it memory-holed.

[Anonymous No.9998739]

>>9998715
>QRD?
Continues the overall story and is not stalling like Nemesis and 0. Introduces villians who are more charismatic which would become a series staple. Ending is not pre determined like 0. Veronica has better locations and set pieces unlike the drab setting of 0.

[Anonymous No.9998740]

>>9998715
No.

[Anonymous No.9998752]

>>9998739
Well, Nemesis does give the Racoon City incident a conclusion. And as retarded as it is, if you think that the Ashfords from CV have the right to exist in the canon then so does Marcus. Nothing wrong with it, I don't understand how people who liked the Ashfords would dislike Marcus
>Veronica has better locations and set pieces unlike the drab setting of 0.
Veronica has cool locations and set pieces but at their best they are still worse than anything from 0. If there's one good thing about 0 it's the environmental design. I mean, the train sequence from 0 is better than all of the areas from CV combined. I'm not defending 0 by any means, it's not a very good game and CV is way better but you gotta give credit where credit is due
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBdVOLOwj7E&ab_channel=Doomsday17died

[Anonymous No.9998754]

>>9997584
Obsessed
>>9997579
They're both bad but I dislike CV less

[Anonymous No.9998759]

>>9998739
>stalling like Nemesis

You haven't played the game. in RE2 the survivors flee Raccoon City and the town is left as is. RE3 moves the franchise story forward by concluding the Raccoon City chapter so the series can go on in other places.
Plus RE2 was baiting by having the Stars office empty, leaving the player to wonder wtf happened to everyone, did they die or what. RE3 answers that for 3 characters. And without Jill's character growth through RE3, the following games that use wouldn't make sense either.

The whole mentality like "RE3 doesn't matter and it does nothing and it's not even a proper sequel" reeks of butthurt CVfags that are still coping about their game being a spin-off rather than a main title

[Anonymous No.9998761]

So the op faggot got butthurt in the other thread and made this one, a classic

[Anonymous No.9998816]

>>9998761
Butthurt about what? I'm just wondering which fixed angle game is worse. Take your meds kid.

[Anonymous No.9998821]

>>9998739
>>9998752
>>9998759
Why did the Ashfords get so much hate?

[Anonymous No.9998924]

>>9997579

Both pros:

- Both a have a "torture chamber" zone full of torture devices.

- Both have a main female characters and a main male character.

Both cons:

- In both there are not female zombies. Is a extremely wasted potencial there are not female zombie soldiers in re zero and not female prisoner zombies in code veronica. At least in resident evil outbreak 1, outbreak 2, re 3 and re 2 there are some female zombies.

Summary: is a tie.

[Anonymous No.9998934]

>>9997579
both of them have cool starting environments with lots of atmosphere and then they get worse and worse as they go.

[Anonymous No.9999241]

CVX is far worse

[Anonymous No.9999728]

>>9998752
>Veronica has better locations and set pieces unlike the drab setting of 0.
But xer, cvx is the one with the grey dreary drab setting

[Anonymous No.10000481]

>>9998739
>Nemesis
>stalling
dude, what the fuck are you talking about? RE3 is the climax of the RE franchise

[Anonymous No.10000498]

CV was the beginning of the slop but it was still cool. For me it's all about the cheese and Steve's "I don't want you following me, lady! You'll just slow me down!" and Claire's "What was THAT about?" is what RE is all about

[Anonymous No.10000662]

>>9999728
Zero is just various shades of brown.

[Anonymous No.10001174]

I just don't see why either of these two mediocre but fine entries deserve constant, never-ending hate when the series has so many actually horrible games connected to it. Neither 0 or CV are in that category and still deserve to be played.

[Anonymous No.10001627]

>>10001174
No one cares about a GBC game

[Anonymous No.10001630]

>>10001174
Because 0 and CV are mainline games

[Anonymous No.10001774]

>>9997579
>>wesker is now neo but with a virus inside of him
This is why CV > CVX
Wesker getting bitchslapped and having to run away was way better than the Matrix cringe added in CVX

[Anonymous No.10002562]

>>9997579
>>all momentum you gain as claire comes to an abrupt halt
Never got this. Claire's story winds down pretty naturally, and Chris' story continues starting from the pace hers has through the Antarctica section.
>>should play as claire OR chris in a separate runs like jill/chris and claire/leon
That goes against the point. The big reveal of CV is that the two scenarios are layered ontop of each other.
Also, adding a "Chris scenario" breaks the narrative, and having it be unlocked after finishing Claire changes fucking nothing.
>>grey dreary shithole non prerendered environments
They look good.
>>wesker is now neo but with a virus inside of him
Dumbest critique. Don't like how Wesker is in CVX? Play CV. There.
>>awful first person aiming sections
Two parts that are predicated on the challenge of aiming. One of them gives you a chance for a near instant kill, and the other has infinite ammo.
>>final fight against alexia is cramped and awful, almost as bad as the bat from re0
Sure.
>>steve is hyper cringe
That's the point retard.

[Anonymous No.10002764]

>>9997579
0. The gimmicks ruin it.

[Anonymous No.10003981]

>>10001774
Is CV the Dreamcast release? I'll have to play it sometime, I've only ever played CVX.

[Anonymous No.10004223]

CV is a classic RE game in the truest sense of its gameplay loop and the level design. Plus its lengthy too.

0 on the other hand is a failed experiment worth playing once for the visuals but the longer the game goes on, the more it falls apart. Its so rough around the edges even if you disregard the common complaints, feels like one of the infamous RE clones that are barely playable.

[Anonymous No.10004285]

>>10004223
nah, its OK but it isn't even close to RE1-3

[Anonymous No.10004575]

>>10004223
>Plus its lengthy too.
Only because they retardedly mashed the 2 characters' campaigns together (Claire + Chris) instead of them being separate.

If you want longest RE, that would be 2 since you technically have 4 different campaigns.

[Anonymous No.10004602]

>>10004575
>that would be 2 since you technically have 4 different campaigns.
Let's be honest, there are only 2 different campaigns

[Anonymous No.10005654]

>>9997579
>>9997594
>>9999241
You will never own a toilet. You have no social standing, you have no money, you have no bob or vegenes to play with. You are an unhygenic man twisted by curry, feces and urine into a crude mockery of nature's perfection.

All the "good mornings!" you get are two-face and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your street shitting buddies are disgusted and ashamed of you, your "bloody basterds" laugh at you behind their closed doors.

Toilets are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of technology and science have allowed toilets to flush with incredible efficiency. Even Indians who shit in toilet look uncanny and unnatural to a seasoned plumber. Your E.Coli ridden feces are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to find a toilet in the bathroom, the toilet itself will turn tail and bolt the second it gets a whiff of your diseased, curry shit smelling anus.

You will never be able to shit without anyone watching and judging. You wrench out a few meager "good mornings" at the start of the day and tell yourself it's going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the shit you hold creeping up like a weed, ready to rush out of your anus as your cheeks try to hold the unbearable weight.

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[Anonymous No.10006345]

>>9997579
RE0= glorious prerendered backgrounds+fixed camera
RECV= ugly sterile realtime graphics+shitty camera

[Anonymous No.10006361]

I only played RE0 at a friend's house and never saw past the train section. It seemed pretty cool so I had no idea it was so hated.

[Anonymous No.10006367]

>>10006361
I haven't played it but what I've heard is the AI partner uses up all your items

[Anonymous No.10006371]

>>9997579
0 is exhausting to play, and you're not having fun at any point.

[Anonymous No.10006373]

>>9998934
This is a problem with the entire series except 1 imo. They never develop a location like 1 did. They're always just like
>cool starting location
>somewhere random
>somewhere random
>maybe another lab
>the end

[Anonymous No.10006805]

So what is the best Dreamcast emulator? I want to play CV, because I've only ever played CVX. Apparently from this thread, CV does not have matrix Wesker?
>>10006367
It's a combination of the AI partner being shit, but also the side effects of having the AI partner, such as no magic item boxes and dropping stuff on the floor like a caveman.

[Anonymous No.10006812]

>>10006805
Flycast, also CVX is on Dreamcast too

[Anonymous No.10006845]

Resident Evil is about the gameplay loop and the game that has the better replay value is the better one.

[Anonymous No.10006850]

>>10006845
>gameplay loop

I hate this term and I hate that modern game designers use it and think in such terms. It's such a reductive term, thinking of gameplay as "a loop" also implies that everything has to be repeated and nothing ever goes outside of the boundaries of the pre-determined expectations

[Anonymous No.10006857]

>>10006850
Resident Evil games are arcade games gameplay loop is their core feature

[Anonymous No.10006858]

>>10006850
this, also gameplay loop doesn't have anything to do with replay value and merely is the term used to show action to reward or the dopamine hit you get from the game
the anon should have said replay value alone

[Anonymous No.10006864]

>>10006858
>the anon should have said replay value alone

Well yeah it's the new meme word so it gets thrown around a lot
>I said "gameplay loop"
>I'm such a smart person who knows his shit when it comes to vidfeo games

[Anonymous No.10006870]

>>10006857
>Resident Evil games are arcade games

They're not, everything in their design is precisely anti-acarde. Only the lightgun games come close and even then they derive a lot from arcade gun games.

[Anonymous No.10006901]

>>9997579
I'll never forgive RE0 for establishing a worse prequel story to RE1 than the fucking movie. However, I love Rebecca.

[Anonymous No.10006927]

>>10006901
>However, I love Rebecca.
I think this is the sentiment of the majority of RE fans

[Anonymous No.10006934]

>>9997579
Both had underwheilming final bosses that get obliterated with a magnum gun.

[Anonymous No.10006943]

>>10006934
>tfw left the fire extinguisher in the metal detector deposit box

[Anonymous No.10007448]

>>9997594
Fat ass and wide hips.
At least before the remaster massacred her.

[Anonymous No.10008412]

>>10006901
It's not as bad as the movie

[Anonymous No.10008423]

>>9997605
I think they're both pretty good, but yes. 0 is obviously worse.

[Anonymous No.10008461]

>>10006901
>>10006927
>>10007448
>>10008412
Did RE need a prequel?

[Anonymous No.10009038]

>>10008461
Yes and no

[Anonymous No.10009092]

>>9997956
It's a crappy game mechanic because you have no reason to play as her. You ditch her in the foyer immediately until the game forces you to use her.
She also SHOOTS slower.

>>10007448
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Capcom turned her into a stick.

[Anonymous No.10009142]

>>10009092
>no reason to play as her.
Well, aside from the, you know...fact that you get an entire game dedicated to the qt medic from RE1. That is reason enough.

[Anonymous No.10009968]

>>10006367
All it uses is ammo for the equipped gun, the AI in zero never heals the itself, you might be thinking of 5

[Anonymous No.10009975]

>>10008461
No story ever needs a prequel.