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>mfw my ps2s laser disc reader can't read discs anymore
it's over

>> No.9970395

hardware isn't forever

>> No.9970402

>>9970385
My fucking original xbox wont read DoA Xtreme Volleybal and im so pissed. Literally costs more to buy a new drive then what I payed for it.

>> No.9970403

>>9970402
>>9970385
try cleaning it gamers, it's easy and may fix it entirely

>> No.9970406

>>9970403
Already cleaned the lens with a q tip and some rubbing alcohol and still nothing

>> No.9970408

>>9970385
Start learning hardware repair. Replacing and calibrating laser lens shouldn't be Extra Difficult.
It is in your best interests as a /vr/ fan.

>> No.9970409

>>9970406
Did you deoxit the switches, check the lubricant and belt?

>> No.9970417

>>9970403
it won't read clean games, only scratched/ heavily used.
It's so fucking over.

>> No.9970438

>not playing them straight off the HDD at this point

>> No.9970446

Time to put a hard drive in it I guess

>> No.9970480

>>9970385
That is an issue with all disc based systems eventually the lasers will die and the number of replacements will begin to dry up. it is a bit worse that cart based platforms but all systems will eventually die and be un-repairable.

>> No.9970508

>>9970385
it has two lasers, one for CDs and one for DVDs. there are two potentiometers for each that controls the voltage. usually the DVD gets weak over time. you can extend the life of the laser by upping the voltage. you have to be extremely careful, though, or you kill the laser. google how to do it. this is how we revived PS2s in the used vidya shop i worked at ages ago.

>> No.9970513

>>9970480
I don't think we have to worry much about it in our lifetimes. There are 1st generation consoles that are now 50+ years old that still work just fine.

>> No.9970565
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9970565

Now what /v/?

>> No.9970571

>>9970565
Try hitting it

>> No.9970574

>>9970565
replacements for these are cheap on ebay, just look for reputable sellers. And make sure you're matching the model number of your ps2. its ezpz.

>> No.9970583

>>9970508
Not OP, but same problem. I have a scope and everything but nobody ever shows what the test points are and what the voltages/waveforms should look like.

>> No.9970591

>>9970574
It would probably be a little too expensive honestly, the disc reader is just one of the problems, the memory card holders don't work and the av port only works if you bend the cable a certain way.

>> No.9970613

>>9970385
Let me introduce you to the wonderful land of emulation. Do you believe in magic?

>> No.9970621

>>9970513
Yes and they were built with hardier components than anything in the 2000s. You'll be lucky if 1/4 of xboxs are working in 20 years. Only downside of 1st-4th gen consoles is the power supplies.

>> No.9970629

>>9970565
This is /vr/ and buy an hdd. It's cheap and easy, you can even setup Ethernet game loading which some people say is better for loading games but I haven't really noticed.

>> No.9970641

>>9970591
sell the unit on ebay for like $10 + ship nonworking, let someone else fix it then. sorry to hear that.

>> No.9970665

>>9970583
you don't need a scope in this case. we never used one. but unless you know what you are doing, it can kill the laser instead of squeeze more out of it. i don't feel comfortable advising the correct pot or amount to turn it anymore since it's been so long since i did repairs, but one should be able to find that info online.

>> No.9970670

Apparantly speedrunners chew through hundreds of copies of games and old playstation because they were never designed to be used like that. They're gonna be rare as fuck in a few years

>> No.9970767

if it's a PS2 slim you can just load games over the ethernet port, if it's a fat you can use the HDD

>> No.9970810

>>9970385
it sold a shitload dude just another for $5

>> No.9970819
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>>9970385
It's time to use a hard drive. Hell, even retro PC enthusiasts stopped using real HDDs and started using SD cards. Shit is falling apart and that's why people are developing emulators for everything

>> No.9970827

>>9970385
send it to a repair business

>> No.9970836

>>9970613
pcsx2 is fucking shit m8

>> No.9970838

>>9970836
Still not as bad as the hideous original hardware, though.

>> No.9970872

>>9970838
what a funny choice to visit this board

>> No.9970885

>>9970385
Use OPL.

>> No.9970920

>>9970385
good

>> No.9970921

I have one of those super thin PS2's and it stopped reading discs unless I press down on the lid. Don't know what to do to fix it. Just had to go out and buy a new PS2.

>> No.9970928

>>9970385
anon, those are super super super easy to replace. like you have no fucking idea. i swap them out pretty regularly just for the fuck of it. it's FAR from over

>> No.9970929

It's the ribbon cable, don't fall for the laser replacement meme

>> No.9970931

reminder to hack your xbox before the disc drive dies
reminder to back up your eeprom AND null your hdd key before your hdd dies
reminder to check your capacitors (saturn and game gear as well)
reminder to remove your old psp battery before it inflates
reminder that ps3 controllers can be internally fixed with a little piece of duct tape
reminder to ALWAYS check for the latest luma cfw before updating your 3ds
reminder to back up your oculus folder to restore your quest 2 in case of need

my vita and gba still run great though. truly stood the test of time

>> No.9970934

>>9970583
get a multimeter. the laser output should be read on the ohms setting (usually is represented by a horseshoe-like symbol). the recommended output for the dvd laser pot is about 725k.

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>>9970385
>spends 26$ plus shipping
>a replacement one arrives, yay
it sucks when a system dies, but ps2 is the least of your worries
there are literally millions of them in working cond
cheer up

>> No.9970937

>>9970670
nah, they don't. you were fed lies and you perpetuate lies

>> No.9970941

>>9970936
he doesn't even need to buy a whole new ps2. just needs a new laser

>> No.9970949

>>9970941
might as well get unit #2 for the marginal increase in price
then you have double the parts

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9970952

>>9970385
>OP still has a ps2
i lost mine along with all my cib games
ex gf kept everything and no longer speaks to me
she's never coming home, we became strangers
i miss her so much and still love her

>> No.9970956

>>9970385
>mod
Just softmod it, /vr/o.

>> No.9970974
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9970974

>>9970952
men are disposable, get over it

>> No.9970997

>>9970952
How did she get everything? I assume you weren't married so I don't see how that could have transpired, unless she hit you with a common law divorce and took everything just to be a bitch

>> No.9970998

Get one of those funky hdd to sd setups

>> No.9971009
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>>9970997
sure let me just drive over there and ask for my shit back anon

>> No.9971019

>>9971009
I mean... What's the worst that can happen?

>> No.9971020

>>9970385
good. you shouldn't be playing your games on a console you should be paying me on patreon for my emulator. You will own nothing.

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>>9971019
i hate to seem like a little bitch but sometimes,
its better to just let the wound heal than pick at it


i can replace the system & whatever cheeseball games she borrowed
i have freemcboot memory cards lying around here somewhere
but its all just stuff anon-
you cant take it with you

i like to think there are still good memories left to be made but most days its hard to force myself to believe it

>> No.9971035

>>9971025
Yeah, true. Get yourself another PS2 and mod that shit, brother.

>> No.9971106

There's no reason not to double or even triple dip on older systems. PS2 sold over 150m units. While a large portion of that number were normies who got it for the dvd drive, and thus it's reasonable to assume there's a disgusting amount of systems in landfills, there's still a metric fuckton of systems in the wild. Same for the DS. Same for the Wii. Do some calculations and save up for a few months to equip yourself with a comfortable amount of usable systems and backups for parts. Hell, get an i.link multiplayer setup going if you take it that far.

>> No.9971160

>>9970480
such is the reality of material things

>> No.9971727

>>9970385
>>mfw my ps2s laser disc reader can't read discs anymore
All discs, or only some? Mine only reads some, so I bought a laser off of Aliexpress for $12.

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>>9970385
Look into the MC2IO

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9972097

Should I watch gunbuster?

>> No.9972105

>>9972097
Might as well. It's not great, but it's not terrible.

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>>9970508
The CD laser won't read in my fat PS2, but the DVD laser is fine. Go figure, the CD laser really hasn't been used that much compared to the other.

>> No.9972346

>>9970629
It's better for loading games if you also get a (admitted dirt cheap) IDE to SATA connector, throw a 2.5" SSD in that bitch, and go to town.
There's a few games, I think mostly jap ones, that benefit directly from having a ps2 HDD installed, but most don't. SSD helps because, well, duh.

>> No.9972738

My gamecube laser finally stopped reading games, this past week. Had to adjust the pot underneath.

OP, look up if you can adjust the laser potentiometer and give it a try. It's just turning screws

>> No.9972772

>>9972050
considering me retarded, what makes this better than freeemcboot?

>> No.9972812

>>9972738
I tried it yesterday and no dice, but then again I don't have a voltage reader so maybe I fucked it up a bit more.

>> No.9972826

>>9972772
You are running the games off the memory card faster than running it off a USB and you don't need a working laser. The only better way would be running it off a HHD, but slim PS2's can't use those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VY6FfRils4

>> No.9972869

>>9971106
I checked eBay because I didn’t believe you and wow, why the fuck are there tons of DS Lites being sold for less than half of a GBA SP? The DSL literally plays GBA games for fuck’s sake!

>> No.9972875

>>9972050
all i'm seeing about this shit is issues, issues, issues when i look it up. seems less reliable then just using discs

>> No.9972886

>>9970670
You're actually retarded.

>> No.9972950

>>9972869
The DS Lite sold most of the nearly 150m units so they're highly abundant. The Lite's screens are great. GBA SP 101 is for hipsters.

>> No.9972996

>>9970385
replacements are cheap but hey you don't even need the disc drive to play games on a ps2

>> No.9972997

>>9972826
got anyone less ugly shilling your piracy device

>> No.9973020

>>9972997
No point complaining about piracy when publishers make $0 off of PS2 disc sales in 2023

>> No.9973157

>>9972050
>can't buy one in italy
fuck

>> No.9973165

>>9973157
There's plenty of cheap mx4sio cards on Aliexpress.

>> No.9973168

>>9973165
are they just as good? does every sd card work with them?

>> No.9973180

>>9973168
I think SanDisk is still not properly supported, but most common brands like Kingston, Toshiba, Samsung and Verbatim should work fine.

>> No.9973202

Sucks that you can't play PS1 anymore but for PS2 at least you can softmod it and play off of a hard drive.
And well I guess you could use POPstarter for PS1 but I assume it sucks.

>> No.9973205

>>9973202
>but I assume it sucks
Depending on the game, popstarter is outright perfect, especially with recent fixes. Most of the issues people have with popstarter come from the shitty PS2-Home fork of OPL e-celebs shill despite being severely outdated and broken

>> No.9973208

>>9973168
Also you could probably find Bitfunx or MG2Box ones as well on your country's ebay. Keep in mind it's best to use the latest beta OPL builds for max compatibility. Here's a thread about micro SD card compatibility so far
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/testers-needed-mx4sio-wip-sd-compatibility-thread.39479/

>> No.9973281

>>9970385
What anime is this from?

>> No.9973290

Can't wait for a ps2 ode

>> No.9973336
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9973336

Anyone telling you to use a hdd and opl/popstarter is retarded and should be disregarded.

The games have a million and one issues on both, might as well use an emulator, it will probably cause less trouble.

The way to go for ps1 is Mechapwn - burn taiyo yuden jvc cd-r, and for ps2 freedvdboot and verbatim azos. The games work like the original discs this way, perfect.

>> No.9973402

>>9973336
>thread is about dead disc laser
>tell OP to burn discs

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>>9970565
carefully remove and tape the screws to a paper sheet for storage

remove all dust and crud from that metal rod i circled
the ps2 slims suck dust bunnies directly onto the laser assembly and cause disc read errors and fuckups

then try a cdr game like mvc2 then try a more data intensive game on dvd

your milage may vary
ive got some extra usage out of slims by doing these steps;
dont use cleaners or alcohol
the rod is greased and should stay that way

>> No.9973418

>>9973402
Yeah I went a bit off topic. My point is it's better to emulate than use some crappy glitchy half measure.

>> No.9973419

>>9973414
also unseat and reseat the flat ribbon cable under the rod
sometimes it gets misaligned and wont do shit

>> No.9973423
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9973423

>>9970385
allow me to introduce myself

>> No.9973425

>>9973418
I don't know, I only ever had issues running one game in OPL and I don't even remember what it was so it was probably shit anyway.

>> No.9973437

>>9973425
Yeah but that shit triggers my autism, all the niggiling little problems. Some games play at like 1-2fps less which completely triggers my autism. Ace combat crashed for me and had audio issues
He'll have a better time emulating, opl is a nightmare

>> No.9973452

>>9973437
Just because you're retarded doesn't mean OPL is bad. 99% of the compatibility issues it has are with USB or SMB shares.Were you fucking with GSM? Because GSM can cause performance and audio issues.

I do agree with you that popstarter is garbage, though.

>> No.9973457

>>9973452
he's probably also using the jayjay opl too kek

>> No.9973596

Just buy a new game console, they're pretty cheap on eBay.

>> No.9973652

>>9973414
This is useful, need to replace the laser on my PS2 so I'll keep this handy. Thanks Anon, you helped me a lot and it's appreciated.

>> No.9973676

Happened to me, sold that console as broken for $50 and starting playing those games emulated on my PC instead. Any PC from the last 10 years will do just fine at PS2 emulation, and if you have a decent GPU you can set really crispy resolutions. Even PC handhelds can emulate PS2 well since like 5 years ago. There is no reason to own the console itself in the modern day and age. "Authentic Hardware" fags are mentally ill.

>> No.9973726

>>9970406
before replacing any hardware, and if cleaning doesn't help, look up a tutorial on adjusting the laser pots (potentiometers) just don't overdo it.
>>9971025
she's already moved on. remember, men and women don't like each other in the same way. for the most part, and regardless of how they act, you are of material value to a woman. they want your access, they want what you can give them, what you can do for them. if they see a better deal somewhere else they're going to start manufacturing a rift to trick the both of you into believing it was all you're doing. move on and keep your eyes open.

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>>9973676
>There is no reason to own the console itself in the modern day and age. "Authentic Hardware" fags are mentally ill.
There is no reason to not eat the bugs in the modern day and age. "Authentic meat" fags are mentally ill.
There is no reason to not live in the pod in the modern day and age. "Authentic homes" fags are mentally ill.
There is no reason to not castrate yourself in the modern day and age. "Authentic genitalia" fags are mentally ill.

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>>9973452
>>9973457
I'm using neither you cotton pickers. Opl is complete retarded cope for braindead retrotuber followers who never actually play ps2 games

>> No.9973812

>>9973728
Truth hurts, huh?

>> No.9973814

>>9973676
This is mostly true for PS2, finally.

Still gotta fuck with settings to get anywhere in a couple popular games tho. For example license tests on GT4 are still kinda fucked.

>> No.9973886

>>9973425
i had a problem with xenosaga ep1 after you tell the captain to move from the port the ship moving cutscene plays after that it's a blackscreen with the minimap, moving the map cursor is the only thing i can do, i transfared my save to a ps3 and to pcsx2 and both worked i even used another ps2 and got the same results, i used both stable opl and opl daily shit builds

>> No.9974298

>>9970952
Nice blog post normalfag