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For me it's Skyward sword, followed by Oot and Majora's mask, followed by everything else. What are yours vr/ ?

>> No.9970281

Why on fucking earth would you place Skyward anywhere than dead last? What do people see in that pile of shit? This has to be bait, right?

>> No.9970285

>>9970278
My favourites are Ocarina, Majora and Twilight Princess. I couldn't pick a favourite out of those three

>> No.9970286

>>9970278
Dunno, they all suck. Maybe Wind Waker because the music was pretty good in that one

>> No.9970290

>>9970281
The controls were amazing, the story was wholesome and amazing and it's very memorable. Why do you hate it so much anon?

>> No.9970293

>>9970285
It comes down to personal preference in my opinion

>> No.9970294

>>9970278
I really liked Zelda 1, Link's Awakening, and Link Between Worlds. I don't really care all that much for 3D Zelda, new or old.

>> No.9970297

>>9970294
Fair enough, that's my view for breath of the wild and tears

>> No.9970405

>>9970278
In order

Great:
OoT
LttP
Skyward Sword

Great, but biased a bit due to nostalgia:
Link's Awakening
Zelda 1
Zelda 2

Alright/Playable:
Majora's Mask (overrated, feels more like a well done rom hack than a real zelda game)
WindWaker (used to be my least favourite but I like it more now due to nostalgia)
Twilight Princess (I played this 15 years ago and literally cannot remember a single thing about it, so it may as well not even exist)

Dogshit:
Spirit Tracks
Phantom Hourglass
Minish Cap
Those 2 game boy color games
The open world ones on switch

>> No.9970439

>>9970405
I also dislike the switch ones the most

>> No.9970442

>>9970405
minish cap isn't dogshit but other than that, a good and based list

>> No.9970448

>>9970281
It's the zelda cycle, never fails. When they show the next style for the series, it'll be forgotten and suddenly everyone will love botw/totk

>> No.9970456

>>9970290

Anon is probably a zoomer that played the shitty switch version and never experienced the kino wii controls

>> No.9970458

>>9970448
B8 post

>> No.9970462

>>9970458
First time, newfriend? This shits been happening like clockwork since the wind waker was revealed

>> No.9970465

>>9970462
b8 post

>> No.9970468

>>9970456
I guess fellow SS chad.
>>9970448
But the anon said ss is shit, so I am not getting your logic

>> No.9970470

>>9970462
yeah man people are super accepting of tp and ss now, lol

>> No.9970472

>>9970405
spirit tracks and the new switch one are the only true dogshit in the series

>> No.9970475

>>9970462
>>9970470
Why did people here ever hate SS? it's the best game for me
>>9970472
Very much this, based

>> No.9970476

>>9970468
OP and other people itt are literally saying it's top tier. A lot of people these days think so, but when it was new the game was universally reviled

>> No.9970478

>>9970475
hey can you take your not retro talk somewhere else

>> No.9970483

>>9970405
The GBC games and Minish Cap are great, though. I would definitely take them over Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess, at least.

>> No.9970489

>>9970278
The non-retro game is so fucking trash man.

>> No.9970490

>>9970483
please stop posting, fujibayashi-san

>> No.9970492

>>9970476
Really? I never got that, I was 15 when SS first came, it came out in the same day as skyrim and everyone loved it, it think it even won game of the year against it. But if you mean here on 4chan I wouldnt know, didnt lurk at that time
>>9970478
Is it not retro? It came out in 2011, the ps2 is already 20+ years old and I grew up with it, feels surreal sometimes that jt is as old as the nes was back then
>>9970490
Who the fuck is that?

>> No.9970495

>>9970492
Man this guy is just going to keep throwing out b8 huh

>> No.9970496

>>9970495
b8 post

>> No.9970497

>>9970495
Fuck off faggot, I love Skyward Sword and I dont get the hate, other than being contrarian

>> No.9970501

>>9970497
Liking it is the contrarian view

>> No.9970505

>>9970501
Why? I always thought it was very beloved

>> No.9970507

>>9970505
Not gonna engage with you

>> No.9970514

>>9970507
Why the fuck not? I dont get the hate and for all it's worth I'm a tourist here on /vr and on /v

>> No.9970518

OoT>ALttP>Zelda 1>MM>link's awakening>ages>seasons>minish cap>WW>TP>SS>BOTW>phantom hourglass>spirit tracks>TOTK

Never played zelda 2

>> No.9970559

>>9970518
Zelda 2 is kinda niche desu. Why did you place WW and TP over SS anon if I might ask?

>> No.9970567

>>9970514

To answer your previous question: A game that came out in 2011 and isn't any kind of remake or whatever is not "retro" by this board's official standards - read the sticky if you want to learn more

>> No.9970570

>>9970278
>Skyward sword
I'm afraid I didn't play nu-zelda extensively enough to rate, even if I liked botw. How are these even allowed? Still.
seasons/ages/dx/non-dx>alttp>>zelda I>botw?>>>>>>inferior games or didn't play it

>> No.9970582

The best Zelda game is A Link to the Past. Not just to me, to everyone. Because it's objectively true.

>> No.9970584

>>9970278
I've beaten almost all of the main series except the DS titles, and a few of the oldschool ones. LttP is probably the best. After that I can't decide between SS and the original. Four Swords Adventures was a ton of fun multiplayer, too bad it's basically impossible to replay. Botw is in the top five as well. Thank you.

>> No.9970598

>>9970582
Most people say oot
>>9970584
Fair enough
>>9970570
>>9970567
My bad didnt read the sticky but I figured most zelda games are retro and that v/ is filled with zoomers

>> No.9970610
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9970610

Every mainline Zelda game has been better than the last.
Yeah. I said it.
>II? Better than I
>LttP? Better than II
>OoT? Better than LttP
>MM? Better than OoT
>WW? Better than MM
>TP? Better than WW
>SS? Better than TP
Each game has flaws that didn't exist in previous games, but overall every entry has been an improvement over the last. I honestly think the only way you can conclude otherwise is through nostalgia-induced motivated reasoning.

>> No.9970624

>>9970610
Fair enough that is a wise take

>> No.9970649

>>9970610
SS is waifu material

>> No.9970727

>>9970598
OP, have you played 2d zelda?
Blog time. In my exp, many people my age say OoT is their fave because they didn't own a game console or didnt care much about gaming until n64/ps2. So their first zelda was OoT, they maybe played Majora, and then went on to windwaker. Half of them love ww to this day, the other half bitched about windwaker's cartoonishness, despite it being in line with the series so far, so when N made the new gritty TP they maybe played for two seconds and shelved it. A small minority may have tried SS but got filtered at the bird chase tutorial (no joke) and said wagglin was for babies. Then botw came out. But they never played any 2d zelda, really.

>> No.9970728 [DELETED] 

>>9970610
>>9970624
This isn't wise at all, this doesn't make any sense. He's clearly just instigating

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>>9970728
It's wise because it's so stupid. It's a good dialogue starter for sure.

>> No.9970750

>>9970727
I finished alttp for gba and played parts of the original LA but cant say I loved them, to me zelda is 3d.
I am also 25 and my first zeldas were oot for 3ds and SS for the wii. But really, was all the hate here for SS because of the motion controls?
>>9970728
In what way? It makes logical sense, at least from a devs perspective

>> No.9970757

>>9970278
For me, it's either Oracle of Seasons or A Link Between Worlds. Maybe ALttP too.

>> No.9970758

>>9970405
If you are saying the capcom games are "dogshit", you haven't played them.

>> No.9970778
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>>9970750
My age group didn't play wii for more than smash bros, if that. They had xbox. Wii wagglin wasnt appealing to most. But past that, what you most often hear is the comolaint that it is too linear and not open enough. You can take my word for it, it's mostly people who started with OoT and use it as a gold standard, where you had a lot of empty 3d space to travel that wasnt water. When I played SS, I was older, and appreciated that the devs werent wasting my time, but OoT was good for when it came out. But I would still insist to you that LttP is the definitive Zelda. It created a majority of the tropes still used today. It also doesnt have any glaring flaws, just strong gameplay and polished style. You can say many nice things about OoT, but it has some obvious drawbacks, and other 3d zeldas improved on many of OoT's aspects. But I would also argue that definitive mario is 2d as well. I recommend you play the original LoZ, btw, although it may not be your thing.

>> No.9970787

>>9970405
How can you be so right and so wrong?

>> No.9970795
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9970795

No nostalgia.
My first Zelda was MM when I was a kid - but I hated it and didn't complete it until last year. It was fine.
The first Zelda I actually completed was OOT in 2007 - upon learning that the internet considered it the GOAT.
Played it and enjoyed it. Solid 7/10. Tried ALTTP afterwards, but it felt like a rehash - so I dropped it at the Dark World.
Played Zelda 1 about three years ago, and it was great. No tutorials, no handholding, no objective markers.
Game just starts and you explore and figure shit out. Good shit. Inspired me to play the rest of the series.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>> No.9970817

>>9970795
That is what I always liked about the first Zelda and missed in its sequels, the massive amount of freedom you had without any handholding.
You just get dropped in the world, can go (nearly) anywhere from the start and just have to figure it out on your own.
Wasnt untill BotW that I got that same feeling again.

>> No.9970825

I sort of like all of them except for the OG Four Swords and Tri Force Heroes (FSA I liked). Can't choose the best so I'll just go with 1 because it started it all

>> No.9970834

>>9970448
I've never understood why the fans came up with this 'zelda cycle' meme because by that logic literally all of the games are bad. Only /v/ thinks it's a shit series but it's beloved literally everywhere elese

>> No.9970847

>>9970795
>so I dropped it at the Dark World.
You definitely missed out on the entire game. It's like dropping OoT right after Link becomes an adult. ALttP had a lot of great ideas that didn't return in later games.

>> No.9970856

>>9970847
I went back and finished it - when I played through the series in order a year ago.

>> No.9970857

>>9970834
It's Nintendo's narrative.
https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/wiiu/wind-waker/0/1/
>Aonuma: There’s a “Zelda cycle.”
>Iwata: Yes. Bill Trinen-san at Nintendo of America—who always plays a big role in preparing the overseas versions of The Legend of Zelda games—always talks about the Zelda cycle.
>Aonuma: Basically, as time progresses, negative opinions about The Legend of Zelda turn into positive ones. At first, I wasn’t sure about that, but seeing the response to The Wind Waker HD, I think it may be right.
>Iwata: And it isn’t restricted to The Wind Waker. Every time a new Zelda title comes out, there’s no shortage of negative opinions, but a year or two later, people are revising their opinions, and its reputation goes up.

Translator's note: Wind Waker HD sold half as much as Wind Waker

Bonus: more Aonuma sucks at video games
>Aonuma: That’s right, so when playing the game again, even those of us who made it have forgotten a lot about it. We feel like we’re regular players and say things like “Huh? Was it like this?” as we play along.
>Iwata: You get stuck on the puzzles, even though you made the game yourself! (laughs)
>Takizawa: Yeah! So we keep a strategy guide at hand. Imagine a developer using a strategy guide to play his own game!
>Takizawa: (laughs)

>> No.9970917

>>9970281
If you were 8 when it came out and it was your first zelda game, well you're 20 now and able to voice your opinion on the internet. It's not that hard, anon.

>> No.9970927

I think I'm going to need to add Zelda to my filters

>> No.9971001

>>9970927
Anon literally got filtered by Zelda.

>> No.9971057

>>9970778
Thanks for your input mate, I really appreciate it and it's awesome to know how fans saw things way back. Cheers!
>>9970795
No problem, thanks for writing and it's interesting you didnt like mm at first. Did you know why?
>>9970817
Really? I thought if anything BOTW had more of handholding that the other games to appeal to more people
>>9970917
Well in my case (OP) that actually happened except i was and am a few years older. Still dont get the hate for SS

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>>9971057
>Really? I thought if anything BOTW had more of handholding that the other games to appeal to more people
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Once you're out of the tutorial area, which is itself pretty open and can be approached however the player wants, you're basically set free to do whatever the hell you want. Hell I've got somewhere around 60 hours in TotK right now and I've only done one actual dungeon/story quest. The rest of that time's been spent just exploring, hunting treasure, and doing side quests

>> No.9971269 [DELETED] 

>>9971249
Interesting, so it's more like skyrim than OoT? I always saw BoW and TotK as more normie friendly, that's why I thought so

>> No.9971312 [DELETED] 

>>9971249
Its so fucking boring

>> No.9971314 [DELETED] 

>"What's your favorite Zelda?"
>Starts with not retro
>>>/v/

>> No.9971316 [DELETED] 

The first thee Zelda games are far ahead of the others

>> No.9971317

>>9970278
>>9970281
>>9970294
>>9970405
>>9970439
>>9970456
>>9970468
>>9970470
>>9970472
>>9970475
>>9970483
>>9970492
>>9970497
>>9970518
>>9970559
>>9970570
>>9970584
>>9970610
>>9970649
>>9970727
>>9970817
>>9971057
>>9971249
>>9971269
Can mods just make a rule to ban any fucking thread that about the zelda franchise in general rather than a specific game? All they are are excuses for retards who don't like retro games (for example all the posts I quoted) to come in here and talk about their new games. If you don't like /v/ then coming here and perpetually repurposing this board as /v/2.0 isn't going to make it any better.

>> No.9971319

>>9970834
you've got it backwards, stupid. The zelda cycles describe how the newest game is always hated by fanboys, until the next one releases

>> No.9971324

>>9971317
I want this so bad man. I really like retro zeldas but I will take the hit just so all these threads go away. the Zelda fanbase, and the anti-Zelda community are the worse thing imaginable

>> No.9971334

>>9971317
95% of zelda games are retro dude, retro ≠ 2D

>> No.9971338

>>9970278

lttp
oot
awakening
seasons/ages
zelda 1
minish cap
botw
totk
mm
link between worlds

TP I remember being tedious and while WW was neat at the time but I'd say one of the weakest "main" games that aged poorly other than looks. handheld games that aren't in WW style are all great.

>> No.9971357

>>9971334
Regardless of how accurate your calculation is, it's curious that so many posters in this thread chose to discuss the 5% over the 95%. I realise there's a glaring grammar error in my post but I'm curious to know which part asserts that retro and 2D are equivalent.

>> No.9971402 [DELETED] 

>>9971317
I'll talk about whatever I please and you can sit there and whine like a bitch.

>> No.9971414

Another vote for sport tracks as worst of all. Only Zelda game I started and didn’t finish. My train was like stuck someplace and I just rage quit after like 2 days of trying to figure out what I had to do.

>> No.9971424

the original and lttp are the only 2 worth playing

>> No.9971432

>>9971414
The newest switch game is even worse somehow. Both games are lazy rehashes

>> No.9971441

TotK
OoT 3d
BotW
LBW
LA
LoZ 1
MM
TP
PH
LttP

I don't like any of the tedious capcom gameboy games.
I don't want to put Skyward Sword on there because of the tedious last 3rd of the game
Fell off Spirit Tracks hard despite liking Phantom Hourglass and trains
Haven't played enough Zelda 2 to have an opinion about it
And Wind Waker is just garbage

>> No.9971443

>>9971441
B8 post

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>>9971414
The train is so simple to use I have absolutely no idea how anyone could get stuck. The real problem with that game is the fucking flute that barely works.

>> No.9971515

Lttp
La
Oot
Mm
Tp

No order, I just like them

>> No.9971581

>>9971317
>don't like retro games (for example all the posts I quoted)
hey, I put 6 retro games above 1 nu-title...why did you quote my post...admittedly, I could've not mentioned it at all, but...?!

>> No.9971592

>>9971269
Ironically these games are way less normalfag friendly than ALttP, OoT or any Zelda game that's not 1 or 2 for that matter. If I played them and didn't know they were popular I'd think it's a huge filter for modern gamers

>> No.9971603

>>9971269
>>9971592
Fundamental misunderstanding. Normies love open world games. They love easy games with no barrier to entry. Nothing is easier than the '''game''' of doing nothing and not being challenged wandering through boring landscape like with TES.

>> No.9971796

The only truly bad zeldas are the rehashes: majora's mask, a link between worlds, spirit tracks, the oracle games, and tears of the kingdom. All of the other games, minus the other Switch one, are at least "good"

>> No.9971802 [DELETED] 

>>9971796
Majora's Mask, the Oracles and Spirit Tracks aren't rehashes. I do agree with ALBW and TotK but honestly they are still good games

>> No.9971804

>>9971796
You just posted a list of best Zeldas

>> No.9971809

>>9971802
if you like braindead linear zoomer fortnite ubisoft shit, yeah they're pretty good

>> No.9971812

>>9971809
Stay mad /v/tard zoomer

>> No.9971825

There must be a daily discord quota for having a Zeldurr thread up 24/7. /vr/'s turning into /v/.

>> No.9971827

In order

OoT/TP are tied as the best video game ever made
OoA
ALBW
ALttP
LA
OoS
MM
WW
Zelda 1
MC
Zelda 2
ToaK
BotW
ST
PH
SS is the dirt fucking worst

ALBW is so high partly because it came out after the 3 worst Zelda games ever made, and my hope in the franchise was in dire straights. So ALBW renewed my faith, which was promptly destroyed yet again by breath of the fucking wild

>> No.9971829

>>9971827
B8 post

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>>9971317
You should be banned. You're just bitching like a huge faggot instead of adding to the discussion. How do my posts indicate that I don't like retro games when I'm arguing that retro zelda was best zelda? You didnt even read my posts.
>(for example all the posts I quoted)
>Look at me I'm an attention seeking faggot that has nothing better to do than be an autistic internet karen whining about things to cope with how shit my life is.
Real advice: do something productive with your life. No one invited you into a thread that you don't even want to be in. ;) I think you'd feel more comfortable on /v/. Or /lgbt/. Or maybe that one board where people cry.

>> No.9971838

>>9971829
shitty tastes in zelda games detected

>> No.9971840

LA is extremely boring and extremely overrated

>> No.9971876

>>9971809
>ALBW
>TotK
>Linear
In what fucking world?

>> No.9971885

>>9970278
Why is Soul Calibur 2 link even in there? that list is probably trash made by a super gay baby.

>> No.9971979 [DELETED] 

>>9971876
Both games literally tell you exactly where to go at all times. They give the illusion of freedom, in the same way something like skyrim or other UbiShit does

>> No.9971990 [DELETED] 

WW/BOTW/TOTK, the 2D ones are mostly fantastic as well

>> No.9972046 [DELETED] 

>>9971979
Oh, so you're just fucking retarded.

>> No.9972126

>>9970278
links awakening will always be my favourite

>> No.9973004

>>9971827
Based Ageschad

>> No.9973010 [DELETED] 

>>9971979
>>9972046
>>9972046
Nah I agree with that guy. Those non retro games are just 'turn your brain off and follow the marker' games. The landscape is just not interesting. Honestly moving around in that game is a total chore.

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>>9970278
>LTTP
>OOT
>MM
>WW
>LA, OOA/OOS, Minish
>Toilet Princess
Those are all tied for first.
>Honorable mention to Zelda 1 and 2, but they don't hold my attention as much as those listed above.
The rest are mostly not bad compared to other game franchises in general. Also I don't care for the switch games.

>> No.9973117 [DELETED] 

>>9971979
You are not on /v/ you can stop trying that hard to fit in. Stop chimping out, calm down
>>9973010
Only boring if you are a boring person, looks like you just have shit taste, I'm sorry

>> No.9973129 [DELETED] 

>>9973117
Yeah well I guess I just don't like the same children's toys you do

>> No.9973143 [DELETED] 

>>9973129
Stop chimping our lmao you are not making any sense

>> No.9973148 [DELETED] 

>>9973143
I don't think you know english lol

>> No.9973160 [DELETED] 

>>9973148
Yeah yeah continue chimping out like a retarded tasteless ape, your last (You) now you can fuck off back to /v/

>> No.9973163 [DELETED] 

>>9973160
You what mate

>> No.9973293 [DELETED] 

>>9973010
The complaint is bizarre, a game can be something between a corridor and "go anywhere lol" open-world. Even if it's linear, it could have good dungeons. how can something be an "illusion of free"? It's either free or isn't. What's an ubisoft and what do the makers of rayman have to do with this? It's /v/ buzzwords all the way down.
>>9973010
Even if you think so, you're dumb for agreeing with the bizarre /v/ post and using THAT to support your statement.

>> No.9973339 [DELETED] 

Gotta give it to BotW I'm sorry /vr/