/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9959269]

Alright, /vr/. Let's see your #1 2D platformer of all time.

[Anonymous No.9959271]

>>9959269
Haven't played a lot of platformers, but I really liked Donkey Kong '94.

[Anonymous No.9959284]

Easy, Wario Land 3

[Anonymous No.9959287]

>>9959284
People have been shitting on this one left and right recently. I haven't played it since adolescence, but I certainly don't recall it being the worst Wario Land like the consensus seems to be now.

[Anonymous No.9959290]

>>9959269

[Anonymous No.9959294]

Super Mario World

[Anonymous No.9959306]

>>9959287
I’ve noticed the same thing. People mostly seem to prefer 4, which I understand, but I enjoy the world map/backtracking aspect of 3 more. Aesthetics are great in both though.

[Anonymous No.9959318]

Not sure if it counts as platformer or more action game, but Rocket Knight Adventures. Likewise in that same vein, Mega Man X.

If not acceptable answers, then DK County Ni.

[Anonymous No.9959320]

>>9959306
I suspect it's only because it came out on the Switch's rom rental scam service.
>>9959290
I played the second one at someone's house for a bit, but I don't remember much and probably didn't get very far. What I do remember is the marketing treating this incredibly archetypical Japanese character design as the most outrageous and eccentric mascot ever, basing the entire ad campaign around him having pink hair.

[Anonymous No.9959361]

It still holds up.
>>9959284
>>9959287
>>9959306
Zip zooms shit on anything that comes out on a rerelease and doesn't pander to 0 frame attention spans. Donkey Kong 64 was them the same revisionism treatment

[Anonymous No.9959364]

>>9959361
/thread

[Anonymous No.9959370]

>>9959269
It's still DKC2 for me as well. Honorable mention goes to Sonic CD though

[Anonymous No.9959408]

>>9959269
This one right here. All time top 5 for me, for sure. It's insane how fun this is to play.

[Anonymous No.9959864]

[Anonymous No.9959869]

Yeah it's SMW

[Anonymous No.9960186]

>>9959294
>>9959869
Played this all day. I'm sorry, it's just a clear step down from SMB3. What makes it the best for you? I want to deepen my appreciation for it, but aside from the fun of finding secrets, it's just so rudimentary.

[Anonymous No.9960334]

[Anonymous No.9960342]

Sonic 2

[Anonymous No.9960343]

>>9959287
>it's bad because… because backtracking is bad ok???
I hate people who hate WL3. Genuinely one of the best exploration-type platformers. It can be infuriating, but in that NES-like way, like "fuck this game, I want to play it more".

[Anonymous No.9960358]

>>9959290
I like the unpretentious vibe of this game but the level design is so fucking flat, literally.

[Anonymous No.9960372]

>>9959408
holy based, have you played parasol stars?

[Anonymous No.9960375]

>>9960334
Seconding this

[Anonymous No.9960382]

Anyone with a different answer is a coping wannabe.

[Anonymous No.9960383]

>>9960334
Shun really is an amazing game, I can't think of a single platformer that feels better.

[Anonymous No.9960384]

>>9959290
Nice choice. Tombi is one of my childhood favorites, along with Tombi 2. Although 2 doesn't technically count i guess since it's 2.5D. Surprised to see it ever mentioned outside an annoying SDGQ meme that has plagued it's existence.

[Anonymous No.9960429]

>>9960383
I saw that art and the other day and just thought it was original artwork that happened to cater to my bare legs with sneakers fetish. You're telling me it's a video game, and a 2D platformer to boot? Finally, something new (old) to look into.

[Anonymous No.9960432]

>>9960382
It's inferior to SMB3 in every way they can be compared. The secret exits and branching paths are really the only substantial improvement it has.

[Anonymous No.9960447]

Basically perfect.

[Anonymous No.9960451]

>>9960447
I keep trying to get good at this and failing every time. Is there a secret/technique to it?

[Anonymous No.9960456]

>>9960451
Learn to roll a majority of the time and use momentum to jump real high.
Also don't feel bad using the element shields for extra movement options like dashing and double jumping.

[Anonymous No.9960460]

>>9960456
I do keep forgetting to roll unless the stage demands it.

[Anonymous No.9960471]

>>9960460
So like I said, try to roll a majority of the time.

[Anonymous No.9960474]

>>9960432
>every way they can be compared
Is this some falseflag? If you just said you like it better I'd understand. You're pretending you compared the games for real? What about, for starters...
>better controls, better sprites, SNES sprites/music

[Anonymous No.9960478]

>>9960474
>better controls
No. What happened to the momentum? Why is flying with the cape mechanically worse than flying with the raccoon tail?
>better sprites
SMB3 NES was somehow more impressive. Better sprites than the SNES remake of 3, though.
>music
One track in the entire game. It's good, I love the castle and underwater variations on it, but come on, man.

[Anonymous No.9960498]

>>9960478
>Why is flying with the cape mechanically worse than flying with the raccoon tail?
Arguable. For an example, I'll mention the football man. I can jump on the football man in slo-mo, bounce back, then I can slo-mo to land on the enemy again (who can surprisingly take more than one hit). It's a high level of -PRECISION- granted by the cape aswell as being its own flight simulator. It lends me a high degree of precision in how I can -CONTROL- the toon. The item may well be its own game.
You're also pretending you're comparing them unbiasedly and didn't notice basic stuff like the maps having more space or vertical space in general as a result.
>was somehow more impressive
It's impressive for a NES game. That doesn't somehow make it better than a SNES game. I can only assume you're blind. It also obviously has its own distinctive cartoonish style. I don't care whether you like or not that style, but you're pretending you compared the games unbiasedly and didn't notice graphics?wtf?

[Anonymous No.9960574]

>>9959269
I know many people hate this game and I do agree that it has flaws and it's very beginner unfriendly, but it's one of the only games I've beaten an insane amount of times and keep returning to when I feel like playing a 2D platformer. I also think Castlevania 3 is amazing, if that counts as a platformer, and it's another game I love replaying.

[Anonymous No.9960595]

>>9960375
>>9960383

[Anonymous No.9960628]

Donkey Kong '94
simple to understand: find the key, bring it to the door
but they keep introducing new mechanics, and give you cutscenes that explain them
also they periodically give you the "miniboss" levels that play like a classic Donkey Kong level
the difficulty curve is perfect
also all of mario's special jumps are moves you have from the start, so you can destroy the early levels on subsequent playthroughs
it's nintendo being as good as their fanboys claim

[Anonymous No.9960678]

>>9960343
>i hate people who don't have the same taste as me
Genuinely infantile mindset. Though it's to be expected from fans of a 'game' where getting hit has literally zero consequence.

[Anonymous No.9960707]

>>9960429
Play the first one on SNES first. i love that game and i'm not a fetishist

[Anonymous No.9960771]

>>9959269
Stuff like DKC 2 / Tomba 1 / Yoshi's Island are top tier picks and were already mentioned, but for me it's pic related. Great artstyle, great music and yes, I enjoy its bullshit difficulty. Last level being locked behind 100% completion (and for that you need to get all cages, some of which appear only by activating invisible gendoors) is a fair criticism though.

[Anonymous No.9960821]

I'm just going to list off my favorites from childhood ranging from SNES, Gameboy Advance to PS1, and PC. I can't measure objective quality here other than telling you what i played most and what meant the most to me.

Super Mario All-Stars (SNES)
Donkey Kong Country 2 (SNES)
Donkey Kong Country 3 (SNES)
Disney's Aladdin (SNES)
Gunstar Super Heroes (GBA)
Wario Land 4 (GBA)
Metroid Fusion (GBA)
Hercules (PSX)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (PSX)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (PSX)
Heart of Darkness (PSX)
Skullmonkeys (PSX)
Tombi (PSX)
Mickey's Wild Adventure (PSX)
Rayman (PSX)
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile (PSX) (sort of cheating with this one but the sprites are 2d but backgrounds 3D)
Jazz Jackrabbit 1 & 2 (PC)

[Anonymous No.9960826]

>>9959269
The only serious contender

[Anonymous No.9960895]

>>9959284
wario land 2 > wario land 3
still a great game though

[Anonymous No.9960921]

>>9960343
I thought it gets hated now because Zoomers get filtered by the golf minigame.

[Anonymous No.9961075]

>>9960186
>>9960432
the 3 vs World dichotomy is always low IQ (the answer is, both are great), but if you can't name more things about World other than the secret exits, then you are even lower IQ.
Here's a hint: controls and angles. Try throwing a koopa shell at the same variation of angles as in World in 3, can you? Also all the different amount of jumps and trajectories you can pull in World.
There's a reason why World is the game chosen by romhackers to make Kaizo stuff. The controls are the most free and with the highest skill ceiling.
World is the Melee of the SMB series.

[Anonymous No.9961086]

For me, it's Duck Tales 2.

it's not the best objectively but it will always be my favourite.

[Anonymous No.9963316]

No.

[Anonymous No.9963362]

>>9959864
People can go fuck themselves, those remakes are absolute masterpieces. That version of SMB3 is simply a joy to play, same with 2.

[Anonymous No.9963407]

>>9959269
I haven't played a better one, then again I wasn't seeking them out either
All the recs in this thread seem dubious except perhaps Wario Land, but idgaf about Wario so I'll never know

[Anonymous No.9964917]

Super Mario World, Actraiser, Super Castlevania IV. The Holy trinity of 2D 'formers

[Anonymous No.9964938]

>>9959269

[Anonymous No.9964946]

>>9960771
Posted before I could. I love Rayman 1 to death, played all of its expansion packs on PC too.

[Anonymous No.9964969]

>>9959869
>>9960382
*flies over your entire post*

[Anonymous No.9965275]

>>9964946
expansion packs? for rayman 1?

[Anonymous No.9965460]

>>9960382
There's something really dull and flat about the game. It's been bothering me for a while. It's amazing when you're a kid, but it feels like it's missing something now.

[Anonymous No.9965754]

>>9959269
I have extreme love in my heart for yo-noid!
Had it as a kid and sucked at it but still liked it a lot.
Still think its great once you master the quirky hitboxes

[Anonymous No.9965768]

Any GBA fiends itt who can tell me what the best platformer is there?

I played a bunch of them for five minutes each.
>Klonoa (first one)
Seems like the best one actually, it's very simple but the mechanics are neat
>Wario 4
Also good though I'm not feeling it idk
>Banjo
Second best, it's top down so it's a little different, kind of slow
>Rayman (Raving Rabbids)
This seems good but the sound is noticeably grating, much louder than other games
>Crash (the first one)
It's just Crash but worse, nothing special about it
>DKC1
Same as like Crash
>Oddworld Munch
Another top down one, this seemed like the worst, you have to be standing in very specific spots to interact with anything, it's also graphically the ugliest. I dunno I feel like it could get good

None of them are very inspiring. Playing GBA on desktop just makes it seem like a shittier 2D console

[Anonymous No.9967940]

>>9964969
Nice memereply, but you can only fly through 28% of those posts

[Anonymous No.9968434]

>>9965275
Pretty sure he's talking about Rayman Gold and Rayman Forever (I forgot which one also included Rayman Designer, maybe both of them did) which contained new levels with some additional gameplay changes (colored tings / some abilities on certain levels being turned off for additional challenge / new 2D objects to interact with). There were also educational Rayman games with their own additions.
>>9965768
I'm surprised you didn't mention Metroid / MMZ / Kirby games in your list.

[Anonymous No.9968467]

>>9968434
Kirby is the game you play when you've played all the other ones on the system.
And I already played the MMZ1/2 and Fusion/ZM a long time ago. Fusion was one of the best games I played on the GBA itself, not later on an emulator.

[Anonymous No.9968476]

[Anonymous No.9970794]

>>9959269
Hail to the Duck, baby!

[Anonymous No.9970870]

>>9959269
The atmosphere, the music, the graphics, the soul, its a nearly perfect game imo

[Anonymous No.9971591]

>>9959269
>SMW but make it fun and challenging.

[Anonymous No.9971605]

>>9971591
SMW sucks but you're just lying to yourself if you don't think the special zone is challenging.

[Anonymous No.9972029]

>>9959269
Super Metroid

[Anonymous No.9972260]

>>9971605
It's not even as hard as the world 8 levels in SMB3. Everybody saved up pwings to skip those.

[Anonymous No.9972284]

Let's just say 2.5D counts. Otherwise Goemon 2 SNES.

[Anonymous No.9972824]

Arcade: Flicky
NES: Mario series; Mr. Gimmick
SNES: Mario World; DKC series
PS1: Rayman

[Anonymous No.9972897]

>>9959269
No Gimmick? I thought this game was revered as a godlike platformer here, what happened?

>>9963407

The Umihara Kawase games are genuinely amazing, if you haven't played them you should.

Incredible physics based platformers involving using an absurdly stretchy fishing rod to launch yourself around levels that have multiple exits into different stages.

[Anonymous No.9972916]

[Anonymous No.9973114]

>>9960574
Best armors in the series. It's fun to just tear through levels in the Blade armor

[Anonymous No.9973142]

>>9961075
>There's a reason why World is the game chosen by romhackers
I only attribute that to there being a functional level editor. If someone wanted to hack SMB3 controls to be more like SMW, anyone could just use that hack in their hack, but then the level editors are still shit or don't exist for the 3 versions (original, All-Stars & GBA).

[Anonymous No.9973153]

>>9961075
I really don't know if I can call World "great." As much as it hurts my childhood self, it really is just eerily dull and lacking a certain something. It's certainly "good." I'm just not really feeling it anymore. There's a kind of malaise floating around it, that "I've been left alone at a friend's house for whatever reason and playing his games because there's nothing else to do" smog.

[Anonymous No.9974293]

Legacy of the Wizard

[Anonymous No.9974893]

>>9965754
very charming game

[Anonymous No.9974968]

>>9959269
for me, it's Donkey Kong, the REAL Donkey Kong

[Anonymous No.9974972]

Toss up for me between DKC 1 or 2. 2 is probably better overall but I just like being on DK isle and it's a bit more of a relaxed playthrough.

DKC beats all of the other most famous platformers for me because the music and sovl is just unmatched.

[Anonymous No.9975027]

>>9970870
the special stages are what keep it from being perfect

[Anonymous No.9975031]

>>9974972
>DKC beats all of the other most famous platformers for me because the music and sovl is just unmatched.
This. Kong was king.

[Anonymous No.9976935]

Don't have one.

[Anonymous No.9977059]

>>9959269
You posted it already

[Anonymous No.9977513]

>>9961075
Based and true.

[Anonymous No.9978081]

>>9971591
>SMW but make it completely unenjoyable

[Anonymous No.9978457]

>>9978081
So, SMW?

[Anonymous No.9978478]

>>9971591
>>9971605
>>9978081
>>9978457
>2011+12
>still falseflagging a fictitious 3 vs World war

[Anonymous No.9978483]

>>9978478
World War 3 is inevitable, Captain Lou.

[Anonymous No.9978502]

>>9978483
Captain lou knows what he is talking about

[Anonymous No.9978506]

>>9972897
I really think the platformers that give you the most robust and most interactive physics and level elements are among the best.

Between Gimmick and Yoshi's Island, I couldn't choose between them. I'm super ass at Gimmick though, I didn't have much opportunity as a kid to cut my teeth on NES-era platformers, but I still love every second I spend with it.

[Anonymous No.9978512]

>>9978506
Everybody wants Gimmick to ream them in the ass but I had literally never heard of it before a week or two ago. What gives? Was it a recent discovery?

[Anonymous No.9978558]

>>9978512
it was released very late into the NES lifespan and didn't get much good marketing
it's being rediscovered along with Trip World with the recent boom of highly accessible retro gaming

[Anonymous No.9978843]

>>9959269
My favorite platformer of all time is actually Rayman Origins but its not retro
so i go with Keyo Flying Squadron 2
a great game and a fantastic sequel, the STG levels are pretty cool too.

[Anonymous No.9978885]

>>9978843
I'm starting to think almost nobody has played Keio 1

Not a platformer but imo it's easily the better game

[Anonymous No.9978996]

>>9978512
It's not that obscure. NES fans have known it for a long time. I first played it in 2014 and I had known about it in high esteem before that.

[Anonymous No.9979034]

>>9959269
Does Klonoa count? If not, my answer is Castlevania: Bloodlines.

[Anonymous No.9979853]

>>9978512
Hardly, I've been on this board for years and it used to get mentioned fairly frequently when the subject of platformers came up.

[Anonymous No.9979862]

Reading this thread makes me depressed. The absolute state of this board.

[Anonymous No.9980210]

>>9959269
of ALL time?

it hasn't been made yet, NPC

[Anonymous No.9980224]

>>9960432
dinosaurs are more fun than monarchs, and mario 3 has very compromised levels just to boast more of them. many are too short to ever enjoy some flow state gaming.

>>9960382
it's far from perfect. content is reused so much in later levels it's like i'm playing a romhack instead of a commercial game

[Anonymous No.9980283]

>>9965460
The opposite for me, it didn't grab me as a kid because it felt more flat rather than bright and energetic but as an adult I can clearly see how good it is and it's the most enjoyable Mario game to play.

[Anonymous No.9980291]

Doesn't care if this isn't the best one, I just really like it

[Anonymous No.9980292]

>>9972260
I beat those countless times when I was 7, you are fucking lying.

[Anonymous No.9980294]

ITT :
>because it has a character and it scrolls on a 2D plane it's a platformer

[Anonymous No.9980527]

>>9978512
it sold poorly so it wasn't well known in era, and it has extremely good music that helps give an immediate impact of "hidden gem", it is also just a fun game

[Anonymous No.9980614]

I'll mention an unmentioned title.

Aladdin is very up there among platformers, especially for a licensed game.

[Anonymous No.9980731]

>>9965754
Wow, $1.00 coupon!

[Anonymous No.9981139]

>>9980292
What of it? I beat tubular and etc when I was 7.
>countless times
Seems dubious, you could probably count them on both hands but you can't remember.
Also pwings are beating the level lol they are part of the game. Or are you going to tell me you did challenge runs because you are le epic gamerz?

[Anonymous No.9981385]

>>9980224
My only issue with the later levels is the Valley of Bowser just being Vanilla Dome again, without the water levels to shake things up. Bowser needs his Darklands aesthetic, not the same generic underground you first encounter in Donut Plains. There's nothing final or Bowser about a cave with moles in it. At least they put lava in there once or twice.

[Anonymous No.9982138]

>>9972897
Even thou its an NES game gimmick is such a fun and aesthetically pleasing game. Getting all the treasures is kinda ass and is a massive difficultly spike but only if you want a sadastic challenge. The music is awe inspiring especially the theme for the secret final level. Plus the remake has nice fanservice.

Far from my favorite game or platformer of all time but it has a special place in my heart.

>>9972916
Manurving around those bouncing cats is very satisfying. Fan arcade game with good music

[Anonymous No.9982145]

>>9980614
The genie level is great. Love all the precise acrobatics you're required to do. Total LUDO.

[Anonymous No.9982165]

return to monke

[Anonymous No.9982180]

>>9959269
Fuck 2d tell me your favorite 1d lineformers

For me it's the light in king angstroms court

[Anonymous No.9982185]

>>9959320
>What I do remember is the marketing treating this incredibly archetypical Japanese character design as the most outrageous and eccentric mascot ever, basing the entire ad campaign around him having pink hair.
Lol yea

[Anonymous No.9982215]

>>9972897
I sold gimmick magical popn and captain saver for ¥100000 at manga souko yesterday. Bought all 3 for like 40 bucks altogether years ago one of the easiest come ups I’ve ever had.

[Anonymous No.9982219]

>>9980291
I’ll love it forever for putting money in my pocket yesterday lol

[Anonymous No.9982223]

>>9981139
Yeah the entire world owned it what are the odds lol you autistic idiot

[Anonymous No.9982225]

>>9982165
Loved this in arcades as a kid. Pizza pirate Benicia

[Anonymous No.9982227]

>>9960334
Probably the most accomplishment I felt in mastering any game on this list. Won’t be selling this one or Hagane

[Anonymous No.9982285]

>>9959269
Reject Donkey

>>9982165
Embrace Toki, the GOAT monkeformer.

[Anonymous No.9983714]

Nono.

[Anonymous No.9983779]

>>9982285
Toki is a joki, would rather stick to Dankey Kang

[Anonymous No.9984265]

>>9960771
Fucking based. I also love Rayman Redemption

[Anonymous No.9984302]

>>9980210
>any nu-game getting a competent team wanting to do a platformer and it not being passable at best even giving the end of time as the timespan
kek. humanity will be dead before that.

[Anonymous No.9984307]

>want to discuss your fave platformer
>some troll picking a 3vsWorld fight that should be in another thread outta nowhere