/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9951820]

is it worth playing? I loved EB and liked Mother3 a lot

[Anonymous No.9951825]

all i known is that mac demarco kisses men and likes earthbound so it's probably really fucking gay

[Anonymous No.9951828]

It's the best in the series, but if you're a zoomer who's never played a Famicom RPG you'll probably be filtered and come crying.

make sure to play the Earthbound Beginnings version.

[Anonymous No.9951831]

>>9951820
Yeah
>>9951825
All hipsters that smell like cigs and wear carhartt like earthbound but that doesn't make it gay. Like the games themselves aren't gay it's just that they attract obnoxious people for some reason

[Anonymous No.9951893]

installing this romhack is mandatory if you dont want to waste half your life fighting shit tier random battles https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4161/

[Anonymous No.9951989]

>>9951825
Doesn't Mac fuck a big titty girl?

[Anonymous No.9952005]

>>9951989
yes, and is also a faggot

[Anonymous No.9952043]

It's a really good dragon quest clone. I would recommend it to anyone with an nes. But yeah solid title. Lots to explore, it's like the bbc of the mother series the map is so big. It's kind of empty though. It's an 8 but rpg, if you like those then it's a no brainer really. Good music, lots of soul

[Anonymous No.9952056]

>>9951820
I like it better than 2 and 3, you should absolutely play it. Do not listen to this anon >>9951893, just play the game as it was released a few years back (basically just the unaltered US "prototype")

[Anonymous No.9952108]

>>9952056
I definitely value a game's released difficulty level, but I also see how people who are more story-oriented RPG players would enjoy the easy patch for Mother 1. It just feels smoother, allows you to take in the games atmosphere a bit more without as much frustration. DESU, jrpgs got a lot better later on at valuing your time spent with them, and either making the game easier or giving you a lot more stuff to do to compensate for the high difficulty, I am personally very glad that leveling up and just the general pacing of jrpgs became easier as the genre went on.

[Anonymous No.9952112]

>>9951825
take me back bros these whores are so hot

[Anonymous No.9952150]

>>9952056
is the version on switch online good enough? I really don't like grindy games because I find them boring and tend to give up quickly if I'm not pulled into the story

[Anonymous No.9952205]

>>9952150
youre gonna have a very bad time if you dont play on emulator with the romhack. this game is the epitome of 80s jrpg grind, especially at the beginning. i would also recommend putting in game genie codes to be able to turn off the encounters entirely at your leisure, because some parts of the map are enormous for no reason, with no treasure or anything of interest in them.

[Anonymous No.9952210]

>>9951820
soulful gif

[Anonymous No.9952224]

>>9951820
>and liked Mother3 a lot
Mother 1 is too much fir gba zoomzooms like you

[Anonymous No.9952239]

>>9951893
t.

[Anonymous No.9952243]

>>9951828
Why not the pre-pozz Tomato translation?

[Anonymous No.9952878]

>>9952243
>pre-pozz Tomato translation
explain

[Anonymous No.9953210]

>>9951828
spbp

>>9952243
Why? It's on fucking GBA, and EB (2) is not even translated with it for some gay reason, plus Earth Bound (1)/EB0/Beginnings already had a good and understandable official translation.

[Anonymous No.9953302]

>>9951820
Cool gif
It's a bit grindy but its not too bad. I wouldn't use the easy ring personally.
The version on NSO is fine. Starmen.net has a really comprehensive guide if you get stuck. Personally it's my favorite of the three mother games.

[Anonymous No.9953365]

>>9951820
It's worth it. It's a mixed bag but there's something uniquely comfy about it.

[Anonymous No.9953390]

>>9952224
>zoomzooms
the game boy advance is older than most zoomers you retard

[Anonymous No.9953469]

>>9951820
my personal favorite in the series, it has a lot of charm and the characters have more personality to them than they did in 2. the game isn't too bad without the easy ring if you're used to old rpgs, but the easy ring isn't a bad choice if you just want to wander the map and not worry about dying too much. depending on what version you play you might want to look at the starmen guides, there are a few dungeons that are ridiculous to navigate without a map (i think in earthbound beginnings there are less complicated versions of these dungeons which are easy to get through without a guide)

[Anonymous No.9953495]

>>9952878
This was most direct to Tomato, not the translation itself.
IIRC Tomato admitted on twitter or some new interview that he made some regrets on keeping around all the "problematic" script despite assuring everything is accurately translated in Mother 3. He also expressed to do a new version of the original translation one day.

[Anonymous No.9953501]

>>9953390
That's a good joke, too bad that doesn't reflect on a majority of 3zooms.

[Anonymous No.9953824]

>>9952239
lmao 21 minutes of pure cope

[Anonymous No.9953831]

>>9951820
Absolutely. It's easily one of my favorite games.

[Anonymous No.9953839]

I recommend it. As other said, it is very grindy, and the combat rather simple, so it’s def a game you’ll want to be doing something else while playing (enter your commands for the turn or turn on auto, then just play a phone game or read a book while you wait for your next turn). But it’s also very charming and has a lot of little moments and quirky details I love. It’s a very wholesome feeling game.

If you play it, I recommend listening to the Mother vocal album a bit between play sessions. It’s nice knowing the words to all the songs playing in the game. Also, at the beginning, once you get Pippi in your party, don’t take her home until you’ve fully explored everywhere else. She’s a powerhouse once she gains a few levels, and wandering around figuring out where to go with just Ninten is a bit of a chore.

[Anonymous No.9953893]

>>9953839
>you’ll want to be doing something else while playing
or you could use the romhack that fixes the game so you dont have to engage in this retarded behavior

[Anonymous No.9953918]

>>9951820
It goes
2>1>3

3 is hot garbage compared to the other two

[Anonymous No.9953972]

>>9951831
Hipsters stole the carharrt look from 90's NYC crack dealers?

[Anonymous No.9953978]

>>9951825
>>9952112
The fuck are these people, you weirdos?

[Anonymous No.9954045]

>cheats to turn off encounters
>romhacks that nullify gameplay
>do something else while playing

You know you don't actually have to play the game if you don't like it?

Fucking zoomers I swear

[Anonymous No.9954201]

>>9951820
honestly, the ending of Mother gets me way more choked up than the other two games.

[Anonymous No.9954460]

>>9954201
Now this is stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.9954487]

>>9951820
It's atrocious. I've never heard people bring up legitimate arguments to defend it, I mean the second post of this thread had "zoomer" and "filtered" in it, as if there aren't numerous far better Famicom RPGs. Pretty sad really.
Only the setting and music are good, there isn't even any feeling of being on a cool adventure unless you're larping at single digit age. 90% of the game is grinding and item management, the characters and story are a fuckload of nothing, the overworld is shit and empty, the dungeons are shocking and the final area of the game was not even playtested. If you want pure RPG gameplay play DQ3 or 4 instead.

[Anonymous No.9954501]

>>9954487
>as if there aren't numerous far better Famicom RPGs.

There are, but it's easily in the top 10.

[Anonymous No.9954814]

>>9954487
It's just dragon warrior in a neighborhood with psychic children and aliens. It's the same shit. You don't have to like it but come on man

[Anonymous No.9954827]

>>9954814
Yes, everything about the gamelay is basically Dragon Quest 2 but on steroids. Everything from the main cast having similar roles and similar spell usage, to the non-linear world with treasure hunt "find X number of key items, all found in different ways (and not just a glorified symbol for beating a boss in each dungeon like in Zelda)"
So him claiming it isn't "pure RPG gameplay like DQ3 and 4" is really fucking weird.

But then again people get filtered by DQ2 so it makes sense they'd get even more filtered by "DQ2 on steroids".

[Anonymous No.9955034]

>>9951820
I played it on NSO and it's a great game for its time. The NES is not the place you go for great RPGs (it has good ones but nothing compared to the SNES/PS1). The key word here is "for its time" the story is pretty cool but also really simple and you need to talk to NPCs to get a better picture of what's going on and where to go next, fights can get pretty hard especially at the beginning of the game, and the writing is very similar to EB, if not a bit more cynical in my opinion.
If you like EB and Mother 3 I say give Mother a chance, you can play the NES original or the GBA port that includes a patch to make the game easier.

[Anonymous No.9955078]

>>9954827
He said it *was* pure RPG gameplay like DQ.

[Anonymous No.9955219]

>>9954827
>Dragon Quest 2 but on steroids
So basically it's sbit but with a flee spell.

[Anonymous No.9955684]

>>9954460
yeah I guess you do trigger Giegue's stockholm syndrome to win.

[Anonymous No.9955706]

>>9955034
>The NES is not the place you go for great RPGs (it has good ones but nothing compared to the SNES/PS1).

Personally I've had more fun playing Famicom RPGs than SNES/PS1 ones

[Anonymous No.9956235]

Come to think of it, Mother's design is so derivative of DQ2, in fact I'd wager that it was designed around the idea that the entire playerbase would have already played DQ2 first and wanted more (which at the time was true), that now I know what to answer to all the people asking if they should play it.
Tell them to play to DQ2 first. And if you don't like DQ2's gameplay, you will absolutely NOT like Mother's gameplay. And if your first thought to that comment is
>who cares about gameplay it's a JRPG
then you shouldn't be playing 8-bit RPGs period

>>9954487
This is nothing compared to some other jRPGs of the time and it's the only dungeon in the game that asks of the player to draw a map. Again if this isn't your thing, you shouldn't be playing 8-bit RPG.

Now let's take a look at another classic RPG that came out not that long before Mother
You have this dungeon
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/nes/578487-minelvaton-saga-ragon-no-fukkatsu/map/11419-gulas-temple-map

To leads to this dungeon
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/nes/578487-minelvaton-saga-ragon-no-fukkatsu/map/11415-rabant-castle-map

Shit starts to get real here, but then within that above dungeon, you find an entrance to ANOTHER dungeon

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/nes/578487-minelvaton-saga-ragon-no-fukkatsu/map/11416-gorgons-maze-map

So you have 3 dungeons connected to each other that get increasingly more mazey and finding the exit (different from the entrance) in that 3rd one is mandatory to progress to the next area

[Anonymous No.9957065]

>>9955706
Interesting take, what RPGs do you remember for the Famicom outside of Dragon quest and Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.9957490]

>>9951820
It's pretty good, but expect combat to be boring as fuck until about the time you reach Magicant and start picking up some healing magic.

[Anonymous No.9957641]

>>9951820
It is the most based one

[Anonymous No.9957760]

>>9957065
Not that guy but check this thread, lots of cool images and discussion on these games
>>9619418

[Anonymous No.9957835]

Honestly if you just want to experience the plot and the world of the game, the difficulty hacks are alright. The game isn't even that difficult normally, with the exception of mt itoi where I mostly just skipped battles until I reached the top. Worked fine and with very little grinding

[Anonymous No.9958801]

>>9957760
MT is so gorgeous, it's a shame it's literally the hardest game I've ever played
>>9957835
I think 4th-D slip is in the game specifically for Mt. Itoi

[Anonymous No.9958883]

I get filtered so hard by this one. I've tried multiple campaigns and I always fizzle out about the time I get to Magicant. I wouldn't decry anyone for using the Easy hack that's out there. Love EB though.

[Anonymous No.9958885]

>>9958883
Magicant is the point where you can grind up your party members and be set for the rest of the game; it genuninely gets better from there.

[Anonymous No.9960535]

>>9951820
I liked it the most desu