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9941190 No.9941190 [Reply] [Original]

So I'm supposed to get the original discs somehow?

>> No.9941210

>>9941190
I think the GOG version is uncensored. Not sure though.

GOG version of Fallout 2 is definitely uncensored.

>> No.9941214

>>9941190
Get the GoG version, delete the launcher and install Fallout FIXT on top of it. FIXT includes the option to restore killable children as well as a bunch of unfinished dungeons like the EPA.

https://www.nma-fallout.com/resources/fallout-fixt-full-all-fixes-and-mods.8/

>> No.9941215

>>9941190
>>9941210
Imagine paying for 30 year old games.

>> No.9941219

>>9941215
Well, I didn't pay, I pirated my GOG version. But if I were to pirate the steam version, it would still be censored.

>> No.9941223

>>9941215
Who said anything about buying them? GoG Unlocked still exists.

>> No.9941224

>>9941214
EPA is from Fallout 2 though, isn't it?

>> No.9941225

>>9941219
Just pirate the actual original game.

>> No.9941231

>>9941224
You're right, I was thinking of the Fallout 2 Restoration Patch. The rest still applies, though, and you can run FIXT over the originals to play the game at higher resolutions.

>> No.9941232

>>9941215
People pirating anything they want just because it had been out for a few months is why the game industry collapsed and now is just garbage made to hook people and get micro transactions. Go pirate everything, it dies doesn't matter! Enjoy your grim AI future.

>> No.9941235

>vr are piratefags
I'm a bit surprised

>> No.9941236

>>9941225
It may not include official patches though. GOG versions of old games usually don't change anything anyway.

>> No.9941238

>>9941190
you're a fucking retard
>>9941210
>>9941214
they're both censored
>>9941225
this you zoomer holy shit

>> No.9941240
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9941240

>>9941236
then just download the patches

>> No.9941241

>>9941232
>>9941235
Buying Fallout in 2023 is just wasting money. If you are not supporting the original devs, what's the point?
Also, if you buy anything on Steam, you are giving like 30% of that money to Valve, which i don't want to do.

>> No.9941242

>>9941232
Yeah, no, piracy went up when they started adding more and more draconian anti-piracy measures to their games. No one's going to pay $60 for a version of a game that runs worse than the cracked version.

>> No.9941245

>>9941190
Arrrr

>> No.9941246

>>9941232
I'm not supporting pirating everything, I'm supporting pirating games so old that any revenue from them is either completely irrelevant to the people who made the game or doesn't even go to the original creators at all. Plus, as far as the developer's bottom line is concerned there is literally no difference between buying a game secondhand and pirating it, they get no money from either one.

>> No.9941247

>>9941238
>they're both censored
Almost like there was a reason I was suggesting getting FIXT and the Restoration Patch.

>> No.9941252

>>9941241
>>9941246
In the case of Fallout, paying for it is even worse than pointless. AFAIK, the money from Fallout goes to Bethesda, which are known for completely ruining Fallout. No Fallout fan wants to support that shitty company.

>> No.9941268

>>9941242
>>9941232
ha ha it's always been this way. zoomers don't recall pirate scene in C64 days.

>> No.9941278

>>9941247
Doesn't fixit add other stuff, I think there was some reason I decided not to use it and used another unofficial patch instead. anyway why bother with the gog version just to revert the thing it changed instead of installing the original and patches
>>9941252
Yeah there's really nothing surprising here

>> No.9941286

>>9941278
Fixt is completely customisable. A lot of the zoomer friendly options are listed as "Retarded Shit/Bioware" in the installer.

I only recommended the gog version since it's the easiest to get a hold of, and since the OP is relying on Steam for games he probably won't know how to get the original version to run on modern hardware.

>> No.9941368

>>9941190
No, there are patches that restore the content
>https://www.moddb.com/downloads/fallout-12-censorship-fix-gogsteam
>https://www.mediafire.com/file/6i64ggozioq4rlb/Fallout1_Children_Patch_v1.1_by_Skynet.rar/file
>https://www.moddb.com/games/fallout-2/downloads/fallout-2-eng-censorship-fix

Just a few examples

>> No.9941458

>>9941286
>OP is relying on Steam for games he probably won't know how to get the original version to run on modern hardware.
Yes ... teach me the way to 1) Obtain a good copy 2) Do whatever steam does to make games on linux run so well

>> No.9941463

>>9941458
nypa nig just google fallout 1 download

>> No.9941474

>>9941458
1) If you are fine with a pirated copy, use a torrent metasearch engine like solidtorrents to find one.
2) Just use Wine or any of its derivatives. There's also Bottles, which is a nice frontend for that kind of stuff.

>> No.9941492

>>9941463
I found steamunlocked and others, but I just assume they're 60% likely malware

>> No.9941498

>>9941492
nigger
type exactly what I wrote and there's obvious safe links try using the internet a little more first

>> No.9941504

>>9941498
i typed that, niggor

>> No.9941519

>>9941492
If you're worried about malware, use torrents. They're peer-to-peer, and there's no way a significant number of people would seed them with malware. Of course, you should be wary if a torrent only has one or two seeders.

>> No.9941521

>>9941492
https://archive.org/download/redump_pc_F
you need to be logged in to download

>> No.9941523

>>9941235
You should not be. Due to how bad the used market is people are just deciding to emulate their old games or do a Krikzz Everdrive with pirated roms. And also due to how bad some games are people just pirate and play then call it a day.

>> No.9941567

>>9941521
Thanks my guy. Should I prefer or avoid "Rerelease" ?

>> No.9941687

>>9941190
This is the most up-to-date version of FO2 RP

https://github.com/BGforgeNet/Fallout2_Restoration_Project/releases/tag/v26

Can confirm it had children (completed all the side content).

>> No.9941703

>>9941232
I have enough games to last several lifetimes, I don't need new shit. Seethe.

>> No.9941712

>>9941235
>oh nooo, what a fucking travesty

>> No.9941719

>>9941703
It's shocking how useless the new gen of video games is to anyone who's not a braindamaged graphics fag. Worst case scenario, I can just watch a let's play because it's mostly NPCs talking anyway.

>> No.9941732

>>9941190
>Not recommended because can't kill children
>Not recommended because sequels launched 25 years later were bad
kys whoever wrote those lol

Anyway,
>Buying a game you can download readily patched in like 4 seconds

>> No.9941758

lutris is such a piece of shit

>> No.9941759

>>9941190
Just get the disc image from archive.org or something and install from that. That's the recommended way to play any retrogame because many gog releases are ruined with community patches and mods.

>> No.9941861

>>9941215
Should've got the GOG versions when they were free while the Fallout series was briefly gonna be delisted from there

>> No.9941864
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9941864

"humongous" installation taking forever to install ... I don't get it. I'm using Bottles

>> No.9941959

>>9941190
I just downloaded the original isos from archive org and applied the fixt and restoration stuff to it.

>> No.9941963

>>9941232
>People pirating anything they want just because it had been out for a few months is why the game industry collapsed
Faggot retard, even Atari themselves admitted their printing of too many carts and shovelware is what caused the 1983 "crash". Holy shit kill yourself.

>> No.9942000

>>9941232
the absolute state of /vr/

>> No.9942014

>Old fallout is censored
What happened exactly? What exactly got censored, and when?

>> No.9942052

>>9941963
This.

>>9941232
There was plenty of piracy in the UK when games were on 1/4" cassettes (you could usually use an audio tape recorder to dub them over to another cassette) yet there was no crash here because whatever market there would have been for consoles the time had been largely substituted by micro computers, and the market wasn't prone to corporate greed like the US. Consoles only started to gain traction with the Sega Master System.

>> No.9942089

>>9942014
Not sure, but I know that in some European countries children were removed from Fallout 1 & 2 because they could be killed. Yeah, it's retarded, but it's the 90s, so what do you expect?

>> No.9942207

>>9941215
Bro you're on /vr/

>> No.9942493

>>9942207
I said "paying for" not "playing."

>> No.9943064

>>9941567
avoid anything marked re-release.

>> No.9943234

>>9941215
Oh noes, not less than 5 bucks.

>> No.9943295

>>9941190
>removing all child NPCs
What the fuck? What law are all those companies trying to follow removing NPC children from violent games? There hasn't been a moral outrage about this kind of stuff for decades so it can't just be that

>> No.9943304

>>9941232
What complete and utter tosh. The only unbiased study done into piracy showed pirates purchase more media than others in general, and there was actually a net benefit in sales because people like to try before they buy.

>> No.9943309

>>9943295
What laws even are there about this stuff?

>> No.9945472
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9945472

>>9941190
It may be inappropriate for the times now. The games are supposedly still playable thanks to the efforts for those keeping it preserved for future generations to enjoy.

>>9942014
Aside from the child murder, I think instead of mentioning drugs like meth they changed it to "jet".

>> No.9945661

>>9943309
In the US there are none, it's why the ESRB exists. The ESRB is a private organization formed so that the games industry could police itself like the MPAA did for movies with their rating system. The government doesn't have to make decency laws for video games because game publishers voluntarily submit their games to the ESRB for rating and retailers generally agree (also of their own volition) to only stock games that have ESRB ratings. When offensive content is cut from an old video game in the US it's not to satisfy any legal requirement, it's voluntary self-censorship because whoever currently publishes the game finds it to be too offensive.

>> No.9945760

>>9945472
>Aside from the child murder, I think instead of mentioning drugs like meth they changed it to "jet".
That doesn't make much sense, though. Not only is jet not in Fallout 1, it's a fictional drug anyway. However, I do know that in Fallout 3 Med-X was originally called Morphine, but was later renamed due to Australian censorship.

>> No.9945765

>>9941523
And then there's Krikzz himself bitching about people who clone his units so he intentionally goes out of his way to brick them.

>> No.9945774

>>9941864
very sus

>> No.9945935

>>9941190
>>9941214
>>9941238
but i dun wanna kill kids....

also you can still torrent the old versions AFAIK. but well, the fixt is available, so just pirate the non-DRM GOG version like everyone else...
nevermind OP is probably another STEAM-only retard.

>>9941458
GOG already started making games compatible with Mint and Ubuntu long before Steam made SteamOS. once again, SteamBrahs are retards.

>> No.9946086

>>9945935
>but i dun wanna kill kids....
It breaks at least one of the quests that I'm aware of, that requires you to rescue a kidnapped child to avoid a bad end. The change didn't make kids unkillable, it removed them from the game completely.

>> No.9946102

>>9941235
There are always third worlders here that only play old Vidya because their shitbox can't run newer games, so pirates don't surprise me.

>> No.9946119

>>9945935
>but i dun wanna kill kids..
So don't RP as a murdering psycho?

>> No.9946170

>>9945765
If the cloners wouldn't rip off his firmware then he'd have no power to brick anything. It's fine to not like Krikzz' business practices, but it's less fine to straight up rip him off because the chinese are too talentless to figure out the shit he figured out.

>> No.9946290

>>9941190
Always should have. This is what you get when you trust corpos to "preserve" and allow you access to "their" games.

>> No.9946330
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9946330

Imagine not having enough Fallouts

>> No.9946351

>fallout
who gives a fuck

>> No.9946362

>>9941215
Imagine being too broke to pay for something you like.

>> No.9946364

>>9941235
How? The majority of people who get into old video games now is through emulation.

>> No.9946391

>>9946362
Not at all. I just don't think that payment is some inherent moral good. I care about where the money actually goes and if it's just going to some random corporation who bought the rights rather than the actual original developer or publisher who funded the game then the rights holder can get fucked for all I care.

>> No.9946393

>>9946391
Just get it on archive like every other sane person does

>> No.9946397

>>9946393
That's what I'm promoting, yes, getting the original game for free instead of paying money to some random rights holder for a censored version.

>> No.9946414

>>9945935
it removes all the kids even if you don't want to kill them it just makes the atmosphere weird
>>9946351
consolenigger

>> No.9946418

>>9946330
That day, anon's epeen grew three sizes.

>> No.9946438

>>9946330
what is your problem, what purpose does buying multiple copies of the exact same game do for you? Like I would get it if there was different versions or something like that but you literally just bought a duplicate disc of a game.

>> No.9946460

>>9941232
factually untrue and you're retarded

>> No.9946479

>>9941232
Quintessential npc take. Pirating has always been a minority of a minority of gamers/consumers. Half of “gamers” barely know how to use a pc anyways, and >>9943304 is right that pirates actually end up purchasing more. Most zoomers I’ve talked to don’t even know what a torrent is, and most millennials give the evil eye bc you’re “stealing from aRtiSts.” The real impetus to piracy was record producers forcing people to spend $20 for only 2-3 good songs per cd. That said, I really like gog and have paid them for games they’ve spent a lot of resources on to make them operable again—they’re doing all that and without the shackles steam puts on your purchases, too.

>> No.9946485

>>9946438
Not him, but you can see that every version pictured is a unique release except for the extra Fallout jewel case:
>Fallout with original cardboard box and jewel case
>Fallout 2 with original cardboard box and jewel case
>Fallout 2 in a DVD-style case
>Fallout in a DVD-style case
>Fallout "Back to Games" (whatever that means, some kind of Player's Choice type thing?)
>Fallout: The Ultimate Collection
>Fallout 2 in a DVD-style case with some kind of gray border
>Fallout 2 "Back to Games"
>Fallout Trilogie with a white DVD case
>Fallout Trilogie with a black DVD case (maybe another of those Player's Choice type re-releases?)

>> No.9946516
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9946516

>>9946438
Because you can't have enough Fallout. My first original disc of Fallout 2 which i bought back in 1998 disintegrated into hundrets of little pieces, that left me in trauma and i needed to make sure i have enough Fallout left for the rest of my life when such an event eventually occurs again.
>>9946485
What i'm really missing is the big box fallout 1 US release.
Oh and the jewel cases in the big boxes are in the boxes on the picture.

>> No.9946569

>>9946516
how the hell did that happen

>> No.9946580
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9946580

>>9946569
I think there was a small crack on the outside of the disc. When it spun up in the cd drive it made a loud bang and i wondered where tf that came from.
After a while i realised the installation went any further and checked the cd drive.
Never happened in my life expect that one time and with the best game ever made.

>> No.9946590

>>9946580
damn that's dangerous imagine it happening with the open cd slots on consoles

>> No.9946593

>>9946479
Pretty sure it was bait at this point. He dropped that turd and immediately bailed

>> No.9946639

>>9946580
Starting to think Fallout is cursed

>> No.9946645

>>9941190
I usually buy games but this is a case where the original developers won't see a single cent from sales of these games and I would have no qualms about pirating it.

>> No.9946662

>>9946639
Oh it absolutely is cursed! If you 100% both classic Fallout games you will develop a brain parasite, which will compel you to make boring, unwatchable, multiple hour long video "essays" about why a game from 2008 is responsible for everything wrong in your life.

>> No.9946667

>>9946330
One attention whore on this shitty board is enough, thanks.

>> No.9946692

>>9946662
seething bethestard out of nowhere
>100% both classic Fallout games
lol they're rpgs

>> No.9946853

>>9946580
Fault on Fallout full off fallout made it fell out as afallout after Fallout CD reading fallout to a fault.

>> No.9946857

>>9946853
lole

>> No.9946908

>>9946662
If you can't understand why Fallout 3 is a bad game, you have a problem.

>> No.9946926

>>9946692
>>9946908
More victims of the brain parasite lol Not once did I say Fallout 3 was a good game.

>> No.9946953

>>9946926
what's your point then bitch

>> No.9946968

>>9946953
Fallout YouTubers are autistic

>> No.9946974

>>9946968
sure but how is that relevant

>> No.9947013

>>9946968
Pro tip: If you don't like video essays, you can just not watch them.

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9947119

>>9941232
This Redditor retard is literally you.

>> No.9947302

I lost my CD such a long time ago. But I've been able to transfer the literal game folder across hard drives for DECADES.
Also don't care what ultra contrarian tryhard tries to say, restoration patch feels like the most complete version of the game to play. I've only replayed the game around 25 times, although I usually don't finish past san fran

>> No.9947432

>>9941232
>People pirating anything they want just because it had been out for a few months is why the game industry collapsed
That's not what happened, Steam was the reason piracy died down in the first place. Piracy increased because more people internationally god high-speed internet connections and VPNs, but as a percentage of internet users is a fraction of what it used to be.

>> No.9947983

>>9946516
you know you can just back up the disc right?
>>9946485
They may be different releases but the data contained on those discs is identical to any other.

>> No.9948273

>>9947983
Some people just like collecting stuff, man.

>> No.9950084

>>9941732
Censorship is censorship, even if you agree with it you should stand up against it. Remember, what you call progressive today may be problematic tomorrow.

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9951920

>>9945760
I am mistaken with what I have heard then. I guess that's just a regional censorship thing, so the only real censorship is the absence of cruelty to children, which I suppose limits some of the player interactions. Did they have something else in replacement?

>> No.9951931
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9951931

I believe the rational choice here is to purchase Skyrim.

>> No.9951950

>>9946479
>>9946593
true but....
>I really like gog and have paid them for games they’ve spent a lot of resources on to make them operable again

GOG was caught stealing code from fanpatchs and opensource emus, without giving credit or providing links to emu source code as required by GPL licenses on some of those emus.

yes they PROBABLY tested them on modern hardware and OS-es. no, they didn't spend "a lot of resources" to patch them up with fan-made stuff and/or package them with opensauce emus.

>> No.9952130

>>9941210
they used to be I think, then they released new versions, for example the one I bought fro GOG back in the days includes the Fallout Bible, the new version doesn't. So I wouldn't be surprised if it's the censored versions that have replaced the classics.

>> No.9952135

>>9941238
take your meds, then kys anyway

>> No.9952204

>>9951920
No, they were removed in a lazy buggy fashion.

>> No.9952293

>>9941232
Based. When you have this many amoral retards seething you know the take was good.

>> No.9952296

>>9952293
What is immoral about piracy?

>> No.9952302

>>9952296
I said amoral, as in these people don't have any moral compass and balk at anybody that does have one.

As for what is wrong with it, that poster already did a good job defending his position.

>> No.9952319

>>9952302
That post doesn't make any sense though. Microtransactions can't be a response to piracy. People who don't want to pay for games clearly wouldn't pay for microtransaction content either. The reality much simpler. Shitty games with microtransactions simply make more money, and money is all most companies care about.
Also, piracy has always existed, though pirates have always been a minority anyway. This is another reason why piracy could not have influenced modern gaming trends.

>> No.9952325

>>9952319
Also, paying for games does not make you a "moral" person.
Games (and computer data in general) is not property. It can be copied and reproduced at no cost. If we were able to copy-paste houses for free, nobody would pay for housing. Everyone would just have them for free.

>> No.9953114

What about hosting fees ....
Say you buy a $2 dollar game on steam
It gives you access to download it any time you like
You're basically paying for hosting services, and a bit to the devs
Also with steam everything just werks
And you can track social stuff and achievements
I don't mind paying for steam games
But I usually buy discounted ones

>> No.9953330
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9953330

Here's what I think about you niggers that constantly cry about "piracy le bad" in these threads:
*farts*

>> No.9953384

>>9941190
Only the review on the right makes any sense and isn't just petulant whining though
Letting kids steal armed TNT from you and then explode is comedy gold BTW