/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9934298]

How are modern TVs for /vr/ emulation? Anybody have any opinions, recs, etc.? I haven't owned a real TV in years, mostly just used smallish low-mid tier gaming monitors, but I'm gonna buy a real TV for a new apartment. CRTbros no bully pls

[Anonymous No.9934305]

>>9934298
They're fantastic imo, even better if you buy one with Fire TV or Android TV built in, all you need to do is install RetroArch and you can game on it without connecting any external device. Plus you can make use of widescreen and HD settings in RetroArch/DuckStation/ReDream/etc.

Really hope this anon from the CRT thread doesn't mind me posting his image everywhere. It's such a nice and cozy setup

[Anonymous No.9934314]

>>9934305
I should also mention shaders. Stuff like YO6-KV-M1420B-Fast can decently replicate the look of a CRT on your modern TV. It will be like playing on a giant CRT without the hassle
>inb4

[Anonymous No.9934324]

>>9934314
How is simply playing on a CRT more of a hassle than using emulators and shaders on a flat panel?

[Anonymous No.9934334]

>>9934324
How much would a comparably-sized CRT weigh?
How much would it cost to run?

[Anonymous No.9934352]

>>9934298
OP which TV are you considering? This makes me kind of excited, I never see regular TV threads even on /g/

[Anonymous No.9934414]

>>9934334
>How much would a comparably-sized CRT weigh?
So the hassle to you is size, weight, and cost?

[Anonymous No.9934425]

>>9934298
There's input lag.
>Some people can't ever notice it and have their fun just fine
>Some people find old games unplayable if there's input lag
If you're on the first category, go for it.
If you're on the latter, it's either a CRT or a 1ms gaming monitor

[Anonymous No.9934463]

>>9934425
the latency of the display has nothing to do with input latency. input latency is the time between the command being entered and it being registered. the display simply contributes to overall latency after that.

[Anonymous No.9934468]

>>9934305
>>9934314
This is what I wanted to hear. Big ass TV, nice moderate CRT shader, nice vibrant color, sounds like a good way to play. I was looking at OLEDs in the store with the dark blacks and contrast, seems like a good way to play Silent Hill...

>>9934425
I kinda notice it, yeah. How bothersome it is depends on the game. Is there no way around it, even on higher-end TVs? Don't they have 'gaming modes' or whatever nowadays?

[Anonymous No.9934798]

>>9934298
Pretty shit by themselves, luckily you can plug in your pc or laptop (he’ll even your phone) and play that way and unless you’re some faggot who can’t adjust to milliseconds of lag you should be golden.

[Anonymous No.9934804]

>>9934352
>/g/
This is /vr/ a anon.

[Anonymous No.9934814]

>>9934798
Buy a $150 used office mini pc with a Ryzen APU, install batocera to the SSD, bam you have a dedicated retro box that goes up to Wii U (including PS2 as well) and can even upscale 6th gen games. Full access to shaders, stand alone emulators, shit like openBOR and doom wads, etc

[Anonymous No.9935238]

>>9934298
do your research
you can get pretty close to crt performance nowadays

here faggot
1) https://displaylag.com/display-database/

2) https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag


i do not have a recommendation
i have a toaster 75" and dont play vintage shit on it - its for movies and whatever shitty tv shows the girls want to watch
i got it used from a friend
i use only crt or a 240" ips gaming monitor


good luck baby bitch

[Anonymous No.9935242]

>>9935238
*240hz

[Anonymous No.9935568]

>>9934414
Size, weight, and cost become hassles when you're the one moving it and pay for your own electricity, yes.

[Anonymous No.9935593]

>>9934468
>Don't they have 'gaming modes' or whatever nowadays?
Yes. It's far far better than it was years ago. The LG OLEDs, like the C1/2/3 have latency of < 1frame which is about as good as you can get. They are still sample and hold though so you only get a frame displayed after it's been fully sent by the console where your CRT is displaying it as it's being sent. This means in the real world CRT "latency" is between 0 and about 12ms depending on which part of the frame you are looking at, whereas a high end OLED TV is generally about 16ms consistent.
That's not the whole story though. These TVs also have 120Hz support so if you hook up a PC and a compliant emulator you can "overdrive" the console so to speak which means you can get a full frame every 8ms, which basically brings it to the average of a CRT. Sadly windows does its best to shit it up so you still need runahead to get 8ms effective which means it's not necessarily correct to the real console, but if all you care about is button->response then it's the best option.

[Anonymous No.9935667]

>>9935568
>can't afford a CRT in house
lmaoing

[Anonymous No.9935701]

>>9935667
>still lives with his mom
can't even laugh, that's just sad

[Anonymous No.9935739]

>>9934334
That screen (the LG Signature Z9) is 87.6" across diagonally, with a height of 42.9". A 4:3 display with the same height would be 53.6" across diagonally.
As much as CRT purists are going to moan, loading an 8k shader on that thing would give you something they couldn't ever replicate. Because a comparable CRT doesn't exist.

As for weight, it weighs 92lbs. To put that in context, a 27" consumer Trinitron (KV-27V42) weighs 93lbs.

[Anonymous No.9935808]

>>9934298
I grabbed a Sony Bravia A90J OLED recently and it’s fantastic, best display I’ve ever had. I’ve using it with a Retrotink 5x which has an ‘inject HDR’ which works really well with some games. Mostly stuff 5-6th Gen, although it looks really good with Genesis stuff too. It’s supposed to do scan lines well, but despite being born in the 80s, I cannot fathom why people like them other than nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.9936271]

>>9934352
>>9935593
Those LG C1/2s look pretty rad, just about the price I wanted to spend. 16ms sounds good enough for me, I mean I can detect input lag when it's bad but I'm not a cyborg.

>>9935238
Bless you kind anon, I will process this information

[Anonymous No.9936923]

>>9934298
Why do Plasmas make people seethe so much?

[Anonymous No.9936962]

>>9935568
>size and weight
All you need is a 20 inch CRT monitor, which is far easier to move than a 55 inch OLED that will require two people to set on the stand.
>cost
The OLED will cost more, typically.
>electricity
100W (55-60 inch OLED) vs 170W (20-22 inch CRT) isn't much of an issue, in my opinion.
You also have to factor in aspect ratio - you'll have massive black bars on the sides of the OLED screen. Why use a widescreen display for standard aspect ratio content? Then when you add setup time/cost/electricity for the modern PC, plus additional configuration of emulators and shaders, the CRT is the obvious winner.

[Anonymous No.9937219]

>>9936923
because they are shit, they're also even heavier and more energy consuming than CRT's

[Anonymous No.9937248]

>>9936962
Unless you're also using your 4:3 tube for 16:9 content, you're buying multiple screens for different formats. Why not just buy the better one and use that?

[Anonymous No.9937284]

>>9936962
I set up a 55 inch oled as one person, have you tried not being a manlet?

[Anonymous No.9937294]

>>9937284
nta but I'd be worried about breaking it, they're so thin

[Anonymous No.9937517]

>>9937294
Ngl it was touch and go. Had to put it on my bed and attach then lift pretty carefully. Definitely easier with 2 people but not impossible. It is stronger than it looks but not by much

[Anonymous No.9937648]

All the new ones are fine for emulation unless it's some complete bargain bin set with lots of ads. I think the only real thing you'd have to watch out for is getting the picture calibrated for all the different modes like HDR and Dolbyvision, it's real annoying when the TV automatically switches between those things and normal mode.

[Anonymous No.9937797]

>>9936923
Because they're still awesome and they're practically free on craigslist.
>>9934305
Aww, thanks.

[Anonymous No.9937813]

Look dude, anything from a known brand is fine, Digital Foundry has some TV reviews on eurogamer. Just don't use CRT filters, have some self respect. Be a bro, bro.

[Anonymous No.9938482]

>>9937219
>because they are shit
Thank you for proving my point.