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9925441 No.9925441 [Reply] [Original]

>the only way to dissuade players from entering that fortress early is to put a massive stroboscopic effect at the entrance door that can give you a seizure

Why would the devs do this lmao?

>> No.9925464

wtf are you talking about?

>> No.9925516 [SPOILER] 
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9925516

>>9925464

>> No.9925564

>>9925516
wow this just dredged up a childhood memory from like 30 years ago

>> No.9925575

>>9925516
i didn't realize/forgot you could approach the fortress before you could enter it.
what do you have to do to get in?

>> No.9925606

>>9925575
all you gotta do is trying to approach the fortress before going to the forest to restore the Sword's power, so pretty much after completing the last dungeon. Then as you soon you reach the fortress' door, prepare for some epic flashing light rave party

>> No.9925609

oh, and it never stops. so unless you want to fuck your eyes up, just leave as the text box tells you to.

>> No.9926748

>>9925516
I bet you they didn't put this in the remaster.

>> No.9926751
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>>9925516
Jesus christ, I never went to the fortress early.

>> No.9926758

>>9925516
>Official Nintendo Sceal of Quality

>> No.9926769

>>9925516
This is good

>> No.9926779

>>9925516
this never bothered me as a kid. sounds like a skill issue

>> No.9927218

>>9925516
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eox1ogr3SE

>> No.9927228

>>9925516
>turning kids into men, one seizure at a time
thanks for posting this fren, cool stuff

>> No.9927243

Just another reason to not play this piece of shit. What a truly horrible game. Carried by it's cover art.

>> No.9927252

>all those re-releases and romhacks that remove flashing effects

Weak genes prevailing desu

I remember last time there was a thread like this, someone who had issues with this convinced himself he was superior because of it because it's a defense mechanism against dangerous things that the others don't have. pure cope

>> No.9927298
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>>9927252
>played earthbound a bunch as a teenager
>eyes glued to a tiny screen with Ness's and Poo's PK attacks doing the equivalent of a Pink Floyd laser light show on the TV
>no ill effects
>go to replay as an adult
>get a scorching headache from all the bright flashing colors
I found a workaround that helped me deal with it but it's fucking retarded and you're going to laugh at me for it.

>> No.9927337

I watched the OP video 20 times while chugging MSG and nothing happened.
Why do you lie?

>> No.9927338

>>9927337
There is no video in the OP. You're high.

>> No.9927343

>>9927338
Fine, it's two posts down. Cool it with the autism.

>> No.9927961

>>9925516
nice game you got there, Square.

>> No.9928292

>>9925464
Came here to post this.

>> No.9928298

>>9927228
There is no evidence that a strobe effect can trigger a seizure.

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9928413

>>9927298
>see this
>anon's workaround for not getting headaches from flashing lights is to make everything monochrome
>feel glad that I never got any overloaded stimuli from colorful flashing lights
>suddenly remember my whole life everyone telling me I'm colorblind despite my skepticism

>> No.9928426

>>9925441
Because if they just stood there and said 'On ne peut pas entrer!' without any visual effects it would have been exceptionally lame and possibly confusing. This way it's like an aggressive magical turbulence barrier or something.
Also the screen flashes white when you get hurt during cutscenes for the entire damn game (starting with getting punched by the fat kid in the first village) so this effect REALLY lets you know you can't get in.

>> No.9928428

>>9925516
is the flashing worse in this PAL ver vs ntsc by chance?

>> No.9928442
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9928442

>>9928413
EB's problem isn't the flashing so much as the extremely rapid colour shifting though. It's less about the screen flashing and more about the animations cycling between RBY several times per frame during several of the stronger attacks. No idea if this sort of color changing is actually what can trigger a seizure, but it's not just a strobing effect like the examples most people are talking about ITT.

>> No.9928443

>>9928442
>per frame
per second, I mean.

>> No.9928720

>>9928428
since N. America is heavily regulated in terms of shits like this (i.e the Pokémon Porygon episode), i assume the flash must be much weaker in NTSC version

>> No.9928728

>>9928426
meh, there are many parts in the game where you get blocked at the entrance without the game going apeshit, for instance, try to do the last dungeon before completing the first 7 ones, the game will tell you that an invisible force is blocking you, and the party backtrack afterward. that's it.
It's only at the fortress that the game fucks your eyes up if you don't have completed the requested conditions to access.

>> No.9928761

>>9926748
Of course not, pretty much the entire industry agreed "Seizures aren't cool" and toned down excessive seizure triggers for people's protection from them and eyestrain. The Electric Soldier Porygon incident was also a major catalyst.

>> No.9928764

>>9928720
i was curious because of the 50hz/60hz difference

>> No.9928797

>>9928761
fucking Pokémons.

>> No.9929654

>>9925441
Ishii was a friend of hackwazu. That alone should tell you everything

>> No.9930417

>>9925516
based