/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9921773]

What are we shmupping bros? Get any clears lately?

[Anonymous No.9921780]

>>9921773
This and no.

[Anonymous No.9921794]

>>9921773
I've been playing R-Type 2 and Twinkle Star Sprites casually, I should probably put more effort since I'm pretty close to no-missing TSS

[Anonymous No.9921819]

>>9921780
Just discovered this game - its awesome

[Anonymous No.9921852]

I want to get into the genre. Rate my playlist
>Battle Garegga
>Darius Gaiden
>Einhander
>Gradius Gaiden
>Ikaruga
>Metal Black
>Panzer Dragoon Zwei
>Radiant Silvergun
>R-Type Delta
>Thunder Force IV
>Tyrian 2000

I've already played MUSHA and thought it was okay

[Anonymous No.9921882]

>>9921852
Battle Garegga is way too hard for a newbie. Otherwise, it's good, although I don't know if Panzer Dragoon can be considered a shmup. Consider playing the Thunder Cross games, they're like Gradius but easier, very good for newcomers.

[Anonymous No.9921894]

>>9921852
Some of these games are entry level (Tyrian, Thunder Force) and Garegga is an end boss game. I'd go with something like Dodonpachi or Vasara 2 at first. Fun, hard and complex but not overwhelming. If you play something too easy you'll just get bored

[Anonymous No.9921938]

>>9921882
I may be a shmup newbie, but I've played a lot of super hard games before. The more challenging the better I think.
>>9921894
>Dodonpachi or Vasara 2
Not a fan of the anime aesthetic or bullet hell style gameplay though

[Anonymous No.9921951]

>>9921938
If you're not a fan of bullet hells then that definitely leaves Garegga off the table for you. Even at low rank the game really piles it on towards the end.

[Anonymous No.9921957]

>>9921951
I will play it anyways because the art and soundtrack are badass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a19xT3_mLYg

[Anonymous No.9921982]

>>9921882
It's hard, but it's worth getting into. Just play it, read wikis or whatever to get the system mechanics and get better.

[Anonymous No.9922046]

For me? It's Z Gundam for SFC with my girlfriend

[Anonymous No.9922072]

>>9921938
In that case check out Seibu and Psikyo games, they're more twitch-based with less screen clutter. Raiden Fighters 1 and Strikers 1945 II are nice entry points. Also, Gradius and R-Type were great from the start so don't skip the first games.

[Anonymous No.9922131]

>>9921852
Decent, but I wonder if it's even possible for people to "get into" the genre anymore. Like, do you expect to clear ANY of those games? Do you enjoy climbing score ladders?

[Anonymous No.9922132]

>>9922072
>R-Type
OMG it's so friggin hard lol

[Anonymous No.9922134]

>>9922046
This game is a shmup? I had no idea.

[Anonymous No.9922170]

I always found Plutos on the Atari ST intensely comfy. It's a very basic shooter that's just what you'd expect, but it's got a cute little single screen setup with a lot of fun stuff happening on it, interesting field designs and enemy shapes, always had fun trying to see how far I could get just to see how much the space station landscape would change and the increasingly weird "boss face" that starts out with eyes and gradually gets teeth and other obstacles that need to be shot. As a kid I imagined it just went on forever.

[Anonymous No.9922203]

>>9922072
>muh too hard
Stop recommending lesser games over garegga

[Anonymous No.9922234]

>>9922203
Why? He's not ready to take it on. Let the guy find his footing first.

[Anonymous No.9922268]

>>9922234
If he's interested in the game he is. Stop being a pussy ass bitch.

[Anonymous No.9922301]

>>9922268
Huh? It's not like I told him not to play it. He said he doesn't want bullet hells, so I gave him other recs instead.

[Anonymous No.9922309]

>>9922301
Garegga isn't a bullet hell.

[Anonymous No.9922320]

>>9921773
Sorcer Striker and Kingdom Grand Prix

[Anonymous No.9922330]

>>9922309

[Anonymous No.9922364]

>>9922309
Garegga is the reason Cave went full danmaku with DDP. They wanted to rival it.

[Anonymous No.9922427]

>>9921852
>>Battle Garegga
Play Batrider instead. Better in every way. Make sure you look up how to manage rank for either game.
>>Darius Gaiden
One of the greats, definitely check out Darius 2 as well if you like it
>>Einhander
Garbage
>>Gradius Gaiden
Haven't played it but supposed to be one of the best Gradius games. Personally I'd just start with Gradius 1 though
>>Ikaruga
Garbage
>>Metal Black
Replace this with Rayforce. Metal Black is just Darius but without any of the elements that make Darius good
>>Panzer Dragoon Zwei
No opinion
>>Radiant Silvergun
Don't do two treasure games. Both are shit, but you might like them.
>>R-Type Delta
Again, just play R-Type 1 or Leo (which doesnt play like a R-Type game)
>>Thunder Force IV
Terrible game. Play Gate of Thunder, it's like Thunder Force but not complete shit.
>>Tyrian 2000
Not played it, heard it's very euroshmuppy but also unique

[Anonymous No.9922428]

>>9922330
Wtf is wrong with the aspect ratio, what's that device anyways?

Can anyone recommend games like strikers 1945? Tried a lot of shmups but nothing has matched it, I like how it handles difficulty and the aesthetic is so good

[Anonymous No.9922429]

>>9921852
Also you need a Psikyo game. Play Sonic Wings (Arcade) or Sengoku Ace. Both great.

[Anonymous No.9922432]

>>9922427
>batrider better than garegga
Just lol

[Anonymous No.9922436]

>>9922432
Yes, and it's not even close. It fixes basically all of the (many) flaws of Battle Garegga

[Anonymous No.9922437]

>>9922427
What's makes them garbage, everyone seems to love ikaruga

[Anonymous No.9922441]

>>9922437
the peopld who "love" shitkaruga don't even play it.

[Anonymous No.9922442]

>>9922437
Ikaruga is to shmups in the same way Halo is to FPS. It's normies intro into the genre and thus disliked by autists of said genres.

[Anonymous No.9922445]

>>9922441
Okay but I wanna hear why you think some games are good and some are bad so I can copy your points and sound smart on reddit

[Anonymous No.9922446]

>>9922442
Halo is actually a good game at its core though unlike Ikaruga

[Anonymous No.9922451]

>>9922445
Instead of asking what's bad about it, ask one of these "fans" what's good about it and they can't answer you.

[Anonymous No.9922458]

>>9922436
There’s nothing in garegga that need fixing.

[Anonymous No.9922462]

>>9922451
I've seen redditors write multiple paragraphs about how vampire survivors is a bullethell and requires extreme focus so I'm sure they could generate a few paragraphs about how kino some game they never played is

[Anonymous No.9922465]

>>9922446
I don't agree, Halo is pretty shit and pioneered everything bad about modern FPS games.

>vehicles
>cover shooting
>regenerating shields
>2 weapon limit

but whatever, ikaruga and halo are both shit

[Anonymous No.9922472]

>>9922458
Batrider fixes bullet visibility, character variety, medalling, rank management, the broken autofire, the shitty option formation system, balances the ship variants (A, B, C, ABC) to actually be an interesting trafeoff, has way more interesting secrets, and actually rewards Gold Standard play instead of requiring suicides

[Anonymous No.9922474]

>>9922458
it's too hard for me so I can cope with the easier Batrider instead

[Anonymous No.9922478]

>>9922474
>easier batrider
batrider is objectively harder than gayregga when playing for score

[Anonymous No.9922483]

>>9922472
You don’t even play garegga. All of those are features, not flaws that need ”fixing”. Ship variety is great in garegga btw.

[Anonymous No.9922490]

>>9922441
Said the nonplayer with no clears who shits up shmup threads to cry over Treasure.

[Anonymous No.9922580]

I cant commit to one game long enough to gitgud. There are way too many and they are all fun.
How do you do it.

[Anonymous No.9922581]

>>9922580
Hope your skills transfer and if they don't lrn2cope

[Anonymous No.9922610]

>>9922580
>How do you do it.
I don't

[Anonymous No.9922621]

>>9922490
Post your shitruga clear

[Anonymous No.9922634]

>>9922490
Don't feed Auster, anon.

[Anonymous No.9922640]

>>9921794
>I should probably put more effort since I'm pretty close to no-missing TSS

Good luck with Memory, she's the single reason why I have like 3 1-miss runs in the game.

[Anonymous No.9922647]

>>9921794
R type 2 final is a huge pain in the ass, so many untelegraphed screen filling attacks, it's like a memory game on top of a shmup.

[Anonymous No.9922663]

/vg/ kids should go back

[Anonymous No.9922673]

>>9922483
If you don't even understand what I mean then you clearly haven't played Garegga beyond a surface level.

Batrider just takes Garegga fixes the jank and improves it on nearly every aspect. The only reason to prefer Garegga is if you just really prefer the dieselpunk aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.9922758]

>>9922640
Yeah, it's annoying how the game lulls you before ramping up the difficulty for that fight. I've 1CCd it before but it doesn't feel like you've really beaten the game.

[Anonymous No.9922973]

>>9922442
The Halo/COD of shmups is Touhou though.

[Anonymous No.9923543]

>>9922673
>game is objectively better even though it isn't
You might have autism.

[Anonymous No.9923546]

>>9922973
normies dont eat up touhou

[Anonymous No.9923562]

>>9923546
Touhou is as normie as it gets for shmups. I've actually spoken to people who don't even know Gradius or R-Type who are into Touhou remixes.

[Anonymous No.9923703]

>>9923562
Most touhou retards don't even play the games. It's an mlp tier fandom.

[Anonymous No.9925176]

>>9921951
Enjoying a game is way more important to 1CC'ing a game than difficulty.

[Anonymous No.9925191]

Mars Matrix (arcade), but I'm too old and lacking sufficient youth experience with the genre to ever 1CC it.

[Anonymous No.9925192]

>>9923562
You just outed yourself as never speaking to normies, autist

[Anonymous No.9925232]

>>9921773
The last one I played was Gun Nac. My supervisor also played the unlicensed Aladdin III (Magic Carpet) game on NES recently and now I kind of want to play it myself as I had no idea about it

[Anonymous No.9925398]

>>9925191
>but I'm too old and lacking sufficient youth experience with the genre to ever 1CC it.
Not true. The best shmup players in the world are 40-60 year old boomers