CRT Thread - JVC D10 17 Edition

[Anonymous No.9879129]

Previous thread: >>9849375

[Anonymous No.9879142]

>>9879129

[Anonymous No.9879148]

>>9879142

[Anonymous No.9879149]

Love those big black scanlines. They're so thick it's gorgeous. Kirby is so sharp, gotta be rgb mod there. Looks amazing

[Anonymous No.9879151]

>>9879142

[Anonymous No.9879153]

>>9879151

[Anonymous No.9879154]

>>9879129
Are there cheap shitbox downscalers (that do 240p)? I'm just looking for composite output so I'm not worried about RGB or anything.

[Anonymous No.9879158]

>>9879153

[Anonymous No.9879161]

>>9879158

[Anonymous No.9879221]

>>9879154
I don't think there's a readily available option for that anon
you're either gonna have to spend a retarded amount on a bunch of shit to daisy chain or craft your own doohickey that does what you want (with parts you spent a retarded amount on)
also I know you said you don't care about quality, but those ntsc transcoders the community shills have really BAD composite output, even for composite standards

[Anonymous No.9879238]

>>9879154
Not sure what >>9879154 is blathering about; there are cheap shitbox downscalers all over ebay and amazon. Literally just search "HDMI to RCA". I bought a marginally pricier one for about 40 bucks some years back that did HDMI to s-video, and it was actually surprisingly decent, pic related.

[Anonymous No.9879240]

>>9879238
Yeah I got one and it works great except it only does 480i; can't do 240p

[Anonymous No.9879259]

>>9879240
Ah, I overlooked that, my bad. What are you sending the signal from? It might be easier to fix this at the source than with a transcoder.

[Anonymous No.9879273]

>>9879259
Got a Windows PC hooked up to one of these. When I set Windows' resolution to 240p, this thing still scales it up to 480i

[Anonymous No.9879326]

>>9879238
those shitboxes simply scale anything you send to them to 480i (with a fuckton of lag no less), which is the opposite of what anon wants
they're fine for media but useless for games

[Anonymous No.9879335]

Some games look like ass with RGB. I've been going back and forth a lot between RGB and composite lately, some games look good with sharp pixels and others just don't.

[Anonymous No.9879351]

>>9879335
Sounds like a problem with the interface between the chair and the controller.

[Anonymous No.9879359]

I didnt want to bring the whole "intended video quality" to the new thread, but I really want to see the RF/Composite crowd explain this.
This is a Playchoice-10 Arcade machine, it's an arcade NES that outputs only RGB.

The NES is the favorite example of RF/Composite lovers. Due to the low color pallete and limited video options, RF/Composite was the "intended way" according to them. So, if that's the case, then why does the Playchoice-10 displays RGB and not Composite?

[Anonymous No.9879376]

>>9879359
I don't care about intended way argument, but just wanted to say I always thought it was interesting that on the back of some NES box's, the screenshots of the games were taken using a PC-10 NES PPU, I think SMB3 has the yellow piss color palette from the PC-10 PPU on the back of the box, they used RGB to have clear images and the only official RGB chip for the NES was the PC-10.

[Anonymous No.9879380]

>>9879359
Probably because it was the industry standard for expensive arcade machines and not because the designers and artists of the games worked closely with the hardware team to make sure the games would be displayed most faithfully.

[Anonymous No.9879381]

>>9879359
Arcades usually go all out with the hardware. Whether you like RGB or not, it's undoubtedly premium. RFfags are undoubtedly mental too

[Anonymous No.9879390]

>>9879380
>>9879381
uh-huh

[Anonymous No.9879438]

>>9879359
>I didnt want to bring the whole "intended video quality" to the new thread,
But you did anyway. Thanks asshole.

[Anonymous No.9879523]

>>9879390
He obviously needs the best possible video quality for his professional work
Modern artists don't optimize their art for 4 screen ultrawide 8k setups either

[Anonymous No.9879537]

svideo + mdapt/gdapt is definitely what the developers would have wanted

[Anonymous No.9879561]

>>9879376
>>9879359
You get better composite signals on some consoles than others but I don't think the composite vs rgb war comes down to console. Although that would be convenient. You're not really missing anything going to RGB with SMB but I'd argue that Batman looks better on composite. I don't really care about the artist's intentions, but some art styles look better when blended by composite than being sharp with rgb.

[Anonymous No.9879594]

>>9879561
Yeah I just don't give a shit and enjoy RGB.

[Anonymous No.9879602]

Anyone with an XM29 that can post some close ups? Always wondered how those look up close.

[Anonymous No.9879605]

>>9879602
With RGB I mean, actually not even sure what inputs it has.

[Anonymous No.9879630]

Reposting:
I got this 24" ST424FF symphonic crt today for free! It is a 2005 model with two composite inputs and s-video! I know symphonic may not be the greatest tube tvs, but it is nice to finally have a spare s-video tube in case my 27" I'art gives out.

[Anonymous No.9880267]

>>9879158
>>9879537
>we postin guile
Sega Saturn over composite.

[Anonymous No.9880741]

>>9878907
it's not the reflection that bothered me, it's that the guy who took the pic was in the reflection so I can't post it here without potentially doxxing the guy.

[Anonymous No.9880761]

>>9880741
Block him out in mspaint anon...

[Anonymous No.9880793]

>>9880761
ok

[Anonymous No.9880858]

>>9879630
Early-mid 2000s consumer crts are pretty good in my experience. Using this literal who brand Alba as my main CRT right now and it's got a better picture than my Phillips or Grundig

[Anonymous No.9880889]

>>9880858
>Early-mid 2000s consumer crts are pretty good
Is it me or are those flatscreen WEGA TVs just utter shit? You may be right, but from my experience, Sony's offerings during that time are crap. Maybe I should try some other brands.

[Anonymous No.9880892]

>>9880889
it's just you, at the cost of more difficult geometry adjustment, the WEGAs are basically reference quality

[Anonymous No.9880893]

>>9880892
That's the thing! They have shit geometry. I always have to open them up and mess with magnets. Meanwhile, I get a shitty composite only Panasonic from 1996 and it has perfect geometry.

[Anonymous No.9880975]

>>9880889
I love my 27" WEGA I've had it since 2005. Still remember loading it in my shitty sunfire in best buy and taking it home to play FFX with component.

[Anonymous No.9880984]

>>9880975
That's cool that it's still going strong.

[Anonymous No.9881189]

>>9879602
damn, no xm29 chads on /vr/?

[Anonymous No.9881383]

Anyone else here struggle with Dandruff getting into their RCA inputs? I'm thinking of getting a switch that way I can just keep everything hooked up and I don't have to worry about it.
Anyone have one they cant recommend that won't get ruined by Dandruff?

[Anonymous No.9881413]

>>9881383
Take a shower, wtf anon.

[Anonymous No.9881420]

>>9881383
This is so stupid. Why do you always post it? It's not even LPC prank call sense of humor, it's just plain dumb.

[Anonymous No.9881447]

How are the B&O CRT's? I see some cheap ones are available in my area, anyone got experience with them?

[Anonymous No.9881479]

>>9881447
Never heardd of these, are these a euro brand?

[Anonymous No.9881576]

>>9879537
Delicious
No scanline faggotry

[Anonymous No.9881578]

>>9881576
>No scanline
you are blind

[Anonymous No.9881613]

>>9881576
all crts have dumb numb nuts, i dont get the hate for them

[Anonymous No.9881614]

>>9881576
all crts have them numb nuts, i dont get the hate for them

[Anonymous No.9881641]

>>9881447
They have peak aesthetics and above average speakers/audio. The tube themselves are made by Philips though so like Mid Tier, but definitely not bad. They're my favorite consumer tubes.

[Anonymous No.9881946]

>>9879273
I tried multiple of these things, from the same company. This shit did not work for my PC, or Blu-Ray player, and especially won't work for any modern consoles.
Any alternatives?

[Anonymous No.9882174]

What do you guys think of Grundigs? I've been thinking of getting a small slotmask CRT recently and picrel looks nice

[Anonymous No.9882274]

>>9882174
My grandma had a Grundig, I think it was OK. Never really digged into the settings or played games on it, but for TV it looked pretty nice.
Personally I'm not a fan of the early 2000s silver-but-not-flatscreen-tube-yet aesthetic, especially on smaller sets. Had a 14" shitty budget TV like that around that time and it always reminds me of the feeling of yearning for a better display.

[Anonymous No.9883095]

I did a bit of goodwill hunting today no luck on getting a random CRT added to my collection but I did stumble upon a repair shop I might have to hit up to repair my PVM. Idk if he's well known but if TV Chris sounds familiar to anyone in the SoCal area let me know

[Anonymous No.9883138]

I left my TV on static for a bit while on my computer and when I got back it doesn't show anything and when I turn it off it takes about a dozen seconds for it to actually turn off. (at least going by the signal light)
I don't feel any static coming from it either
What do?

[Anonymous No.9883148]

>>9883138
Oh, and it used to do a pretty loud little cracking sound when I turned it on but now I just hear a tiny, barely audible noise instead

[Anonymous No.9883158]

>>9882174
Good if you get a big one from the 90's

[Anonymous No.9883171]

Does this look good? Anyone have any experience with the brand? Never heard of it before.

[Anonymous No.9883180]

>>9883171
Looks like a cheap brand, if it's free and you want a CRT, go for it
I will say, the scart ports being in that position may be an issue due the shape of scart plugs if they're too close

[Anonymous No.9883182]

>>9883148
could be high voltage failure

[Anonymous No.9883185]

>>9883138
I dunno about that but my CRT goes into standby automatically if it's left on static with no signal after 10 minutes and can only be turned back on with pressing a button on the remote

[Anonymous No.9883765]

Is there a good way to remove dust etc. from the inside of my CRT without opening it up? It has these holes on the top and back, can't get a good pic but shit looks filthy with heavy dust all over. I strongly doubt a vacuum is the way. I have compressed air, but don't really know if I could get it out of the box like that nor am I sure that is safe either.
Maybe I can combo the two, maybe I use some thin tube... really would rather not open it up but I'll take what I can get.

[Anonymous No.9883770]

>>9883765
just take off the back plastic anon, you don't have to touch components but I would recommend doing it out in the open if you are using compressed air on dust
Personally I would also use a brush

[Anonymous No.9883889]

>>9883185
Does it still have the static when you put your hand near the screen when it's on standby?

[Anonymous No.9883897]

>>9883889
all you can do is try and press a button on your remote, if that doesn't work then it's not that

[Anonymous No.9884176]

>>9879129
i love quistis so much,and i knew a woman that reminded me of her physically.

[Anonymous No.9885141]

Got an AMD GPU with DVI & VGA and things are going pretty ok for now.
Had some trouble getting everything setup but seems to work now. Still don't have a VGA > SCART adapter/cable yet but it's in the post so prob tuesday or wednesday.

Using my 17" CPD-E250 atm and it's much better than when it was scaled through the HDMI adapter from my nvidia card. It's range is 30 > 96 kHz H & 48 > 170Hz V.
I'm trying to find a good balance of resolution & refresh rate too, manual says 1024x768 rec & 1600x1200 max. 1280x960 seems kindda comfy.
When looking at super resolutions, I should be looking at the kHz range using CVT timing right and making sure it's within the 30 > 96 range, that right?
I regret not learning about this in the 2000's but flat panels came around just as I'd get interested.

Anyway. I still haven't figured out CRT emudriver (though it's installed with the radeon software) yet. I only really use retroarch and don't do a lot of emulation before the PS2 era anymore so it's more useful for PC games and captured stuff through OBS etc.

[Anonymous No.9885185]

>>9879359
Arcade monitors don't have composite video input.

Do not @ me with the 5 exceptions out of 30000

[Anonymous No.9885198]

>>9879602
I owned one briefly in the past but took no pics.
They look like a computer monitor when running in 240p RGB mode. Like some of the pics you've seen of PC CRT running in 240p120 mode. Very defined scanlines.

[Anonymous No.9885208]

>>9885198
Here's a gallery of an XM29 Xtra.
https://imgur.com/a/GBIjW

And this is only via s-video. RGB is even sharper.

[Anonymous No.9885210]

XM29 Plus gallery
https://imgur.com/gallery/16mPjU4

[Anonymous No.9885213]

[Anonymous No.9885216]

>>9885210
what's the diff on the plus ver?

[Anonymous No.9885253]

post setups

[Anonymous No.9885524]

>>9879359
Games made for the playchoice 10 have a different colour palette

[Anonymous No.9886083]

>>9885216
Support for higher resolutions, possibly a finer screen pitch.

[Anonymous No.9886275]

I finally found it.

[Anonymous No.9886293]

I never really thought about this but I'm thinking about it now: crt placement. I feel like the current set up I have right now is lame and doesn't allow for easy enough use. Left is my current layout (my chair for pc use is very comfortable and can recline), maybe middle or right is better for me. M is me T is telly

[Anonymous No.9886302]

>>9886293
you need to practice drawing straight lines
Here's a hint, use the line tool

[Anonymous No.9886316]

>>9886302
sod off ya little turd the feng consequences of wine tasting are talking

[Anonymous No.9886321]

>>9886316
Maybe practice on perspectives too

[Anonymous No.9886674]

>>9885253
Is that Panasonic VCR a Pro-Line? How is it rack mounted? What's the model number?

[Anonymous No.9886730]

>>9886674
It's a consumer NV-HS830 set that is PAL only, it stands on a rack mounted shelf
pro SVHS sets out there are either too expensive or timelapse sets which have no Hi-Fi so i'd want to get myself a BetaSP deck eventually because they are cheaper than svhs decks lmao

[Anonymous No.9886927]

>>9880889
>Sony's offerings during that time are crap.
I followed CRTs somewhat closely during that time because my friend was looking at buying a 36-incher, and I somewhat agree. Sony wasn't quite at the top of its game and most reviewers found the JVC i'Art series to be the better set, citing overdriven reds as a consistent problem with WEGAs at the time. That said, I think they were still some of the nicer sets we looked at, and my friend only just barely chose the JVC over Sony.

I think the issue is that now these sets all have wear; you can't really objectively judge them against each other. People love the JVC D-series sets now, but I got one for free about a year ago and I think it's the worst-looking CRTs I've ever owned, probably because it's just worn to shit.

[Anonymous No.9886937]

>>9885253
The glow up since I got married and moved out. Always makes me sad when people talk about how their wives/girlfriends won't let them own CRTs.

[Anonymous No.9887016]

>>9886937
>glowup
>he opened a blind
That’s not what glowup means anon

[Anonymous No.9887041]

>>9887016
I chortled.

[Anonymous No.9887085]

Currently in the process of repairing a MS2931 chassis for my blast city cabinet. Was able to score a free chassis from someone that botched a recap job and was gonna toss it. Going through the schematics and testing continuity on all the caps, been a pain but found a big problem here and already patched it up. Hopefully I can test it on my tube this week.

[Anonymous No.9887286]

>>9885253
Not really anything to post. Right now I'm experimenting and doing that meme thing where people place their television at an angle so that it's more or less for personal viewing only, it's a little cozy but impractical if you're ever going to play a game with someone. I'll post a close up of the screen itself in the next post.

[Anonymous No.9887289]

I liked this one, gives me such a humid summer time feeling, which is fitting because it's getting hot out now where I live.

[Anonymous No.9887301]

>>9887286
>that meme thing where people place their television at an angle so that it's more or less for personal viewing only,
The fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.9887315]

>>9887301
nta but I've seen that too
probably stemmed from people with smaller crts and pvms putting them on their desks at an angle to use them from the same position they use their desktop at

[Anonymous No.9887317]

>>9887315
I don't like doing this because I have friends over sometimes to play smash brothers and moving the tv constantly is a pain

[Anonymous No.9887346]

>>9887315
I think the fact that it's on a desk makes it more for "personal use" than whatever fucking angle it's at. And why the hell is it a "meme thing"?

Fucking christ, people need to be less dumb.

[Anonymous No.9887380]

>anons having a relatively normal conversation
>anon who doesn't understand the discussion/doesn't know what's being talked starts tard sperging

[Anonymous No.9887386]

>>9887380
First rule of /vr/: Ignore the zoomers and autists.
Second rule of /vr/: There is no second rule.

[Anonymous No.9887390]

Is it possible to tell if a CRT is component or composite just by looking at the screen? (while a game is running)

[Anonymous No.9887398]

>>9887390
in person, yes
in photos, probably not

[Anonymous No.9887401]

>>9887390
It’s improbable but with a good enough picture and context clues maybe. More likely the tv set itself can be identified

[Anonymous No.9887406]

>>9887398
>>9887401
>12:39:57

[Anonymous No.9887417]

Never owned a pvm before, but this is one is 100 bucks. Works fine no screen defects. Worth it?

[Anonymous No.9887424]

>>9887417
If it's actually 100 bucks then sure; that's a multiformat L5 model and you could easily resell it for $1000+ if you decide you don't like it.

[Anonymous No.9887426]

>>9887380
lmao, what kind of meme post is this? Seems to be at an angle.

[Anonymous No.9887458]

>>9887426
I'm just posting in this thread to increase the IP count and call you a zoomer.

[Anonymous No.9887472]

>>9887458
You shouldn't have said that because he's going to claim every poster in the thread is the same anon with 36 vpns now

[Anonymous No.9887486]

>>9887458
I'd argue that labelling everything as a "meme" is the greater zoomer behavior, but go on, keep memeing, you crazy angled memer.

[Anonymous No.9887495]

>>9887289
connection type?

[Anonymous No.9887509]

Does anyone else like to do this meme thing with their CRTs? Or is it just me?

[Anonymous No.9887513]

>>9887509
zoomer is in full meltdown, repeat zoomer is in full meltdown

[Anonymous No.9887514]

>>9887486
>labelling everything as a "meme"
Except no one other than you is doing that:
>keep memeing, you crazy angled memer
The fact that referring to a shitty /v/ meme as exactly that, a meme, is making you this upset says all that needs to be said.

[Anonymous No.9887519]

different model but i picked up one of these the other day for $50, only issue is that the dvd player tray wont open. decent purchase? i dont think i'll ever be able to obtain a PVM.

games look good on it but the contrast could be higher, its really my only complaint

[Anonymous No.9887525]

>>9887417

>BAIT

[Anonymous No.9887545]

>>9887424
>>9887525
my bad, it was one of those stupid facebook marketplace listings where once you actually click on the item the description says to send him an offer, hate when people do that

[Anonymous No.9887547]

>>9887519
>contrast could be higher
You probably need to tune the white point and colours

[Anonymous No.9887550]

>>9887509
What meme thing, you autistic fuck? Holding the controller like a fag?

[Anonymous No.9887581]

What the fuck are you faggots even arguing about? What fucking meme?

I'm too fucking old for the internet.

[Anonymous No.9887590]

>>9887514
>Except no one other than you is doing that:
except the whole reason I'm confused is that this dipshit >>9887286 called "putting your TV at an angle" a "meme thing", and all I want is a fucking explanation as to how it's a meme. All I can assume is that it's some bullshit that only makes sense if you obsessively stalk reddit communities so you can bitch about what they like, because that's what 99% of 4chan content is anyway.

[Anonymous No.9887615]

>>9887581
Judging by the posts it's just one tranny with a stick shoved up his ass which is why I assume he's trying to force >>9887509 whatever stupid discord joke this is.

[Anonymous No.9887649]

>>9887286
>that meme thing where people place their television at an angle
how is that a meme? People have been doing that before you were born, zoomie.

[Anonymous No.9887662]

>>9887615
I guess so, or people are being intentionally obtuse.
>>9887649
Either a blatant newfag, or you've never been on /v/ before. If it's the latter, then good choice.

[Anonymous No.9887679]

>>9887662
to be fair i sensed a lot of samefagging in that /v/ screencap

[Anonymous No.9887687]

>>9887662
>or you've never been on /v/ before
Haven't been to /v/ or /vr/ for years. How did putting a TV at an angle become a meme? I'm genuinely curious, now.

[Anonymous No.9887816]

>>9887687
its just an unfunny screencap like the ogre thumb guy from /tv/

[Anonymous No.9888084]

ooookay
custom resolutions lesgooo
AMD's own driver application sucks. It sucks. No. I don't wanna hear otherwise, what the fuck is this barbarism CCP wuz better and it pales in comparison to NVCPL zoomers begone.

The custom resolutions not having a limit's pretty neat tho (or I've not reached it yet), and I'm not sure how it's doing it but it's nice to not have to use CRU but I've found that using it gives me different results even when using CVT for timing in the auto calculator and sometimes the results are less favourable.

So I'm guessing the best way's gonna be use CRU as a calculator for temporary resolutions etc and then punch the numbers into the AMD drivers to get it to work.
I can see some of the obvious stuff and where it goes like the sync width/front porch. The H. timing and V timing I'm guessing come from the total column but the blanking & back porch I'm not sure about and if I'd get those numbers from back porch/blanking or if I need to use another calculator for this instead?
CRU's been great for getting me as close to 30kHz as possible for some stuff and pushing the higher limits but the detailed resolutions being limited to 4 has been hurting.

Is there a better way to use both of these that I'm missing?
I'm used to using CRU with flat panel technology for weird refresh rates more than I am this stuff so sorry for being shit at it.

[Anonymous No.9888149]

>>9887519
>only issue is that the dvd player tray wont open.
Most drives on everything from PS2s to 360's to PS4's to PC drives all had a slot next to them for manual ejection. It's pin sized and a paperclip etc can open it.
Hopefully that'll help.

[Anonymous No.9888239]

>>9887547
>>9888149
thank you both

[Anonymous No.9888284]

>>9880793
I bought a TV for $10 around 5 years ago and this was the pic they posted lmao.

[Anonymous No.9888303]

>>9888284
fucking christ
this is like that battlestation pic with all the tendie shit around his station of the fat fuck with his dick hanging out

[Anonymous No.9888347]

>>9888284
well did she look good in person at least?

[Anonymous No.9888513]

>>9888347
not really, no.

[Anonymous No.9888659]

ive recently acquired three free arcade cabs and bought some cheap loose boards and now im considering renovating my garage into a 3rd world arcade, complete with home-made cabinets for the loose boards and using the spare garbage night crts I have hoarded over the years.

[Anonymous No.9888670]

[Anonymous No.9888864]

I finally got a B&O but I'm having a tiny bit of a problem. The PS2 image is completely fine on composite but when I switch to SCART it only uses the upper half of the screen instead of filling it. Anyone know what the problem is?

[Anonymous No.9888903]

[Anonymous No.9889012]

>>9888864
Nevermind I figured it out myself. If anyone is searching B&O Beocenter or Beovision in the /vr/ archive and has this problem. Hold down the display button and press right, select format and then format 1 instead of 2, should fix the problem.

[Anonymous No.9889020]

>>9889012
>>9888864
it's a voltage related issue most likely
basically 4:3 and 16:9 mode

[Anonymous No.9889393]

Is it worth trying to mod a CRT for RGB? I've seen a couple of videos about it and it looks like a bit of a hassle, I haven't been able to find any comprehensive guide. I've had experience soldering and making mods to older consoles so I'm not so afraid about botching the job, more about how to tap the different signals without fucking everything up.

[Anonymous No.9889396]

>>9889393
If you want the best picture quality you can get, then yes. My 27" Wega with RGB looks stunning with my 8/16 bit consoles.

[Anonymous No.9889556]

>>9889393
Dunno about modding but RGB is worth it if you play arcade games and 6th gen stuff
But if you have component then no, of course not, just get a transcoder for RGB stuff

[Anonymous No.9889649]

>>9889393
>I haven't been able to find any comprehensive guide
Here, open wide, say "AAAAAAHH", big baby
https://crtdatabase.com/modding/rgb-via-mux

[Anonymous No.9889727]

>>9889649
n.b. that some jungle chips have spare rgb inputs anyway, so try to find a datasheet or service manual with the pinout

[Anonymous No.9890049]

>>9879129
CRT faggotry has gotten pretty elitist and insufferable, I'm going to sell off my PVM while I can rip retarded hipsters off and call it a day, after all we're right around the corner to better display methods anyways.

[Anonymous No.9890056]

>>9890049
/unsubscribe

[Anonymous No.9890068]

>>9889393
If your TV was made in the 2000s and has a component input, for the love of god do not bother doing this. Just get a rgb to component transcoder and call it a day. No one can tell the difference. Even fucking S-Video is nearly the same, especially systems with clean video output like the Saturn.

[Anonymous No.9890131]

Bought a scart to VGA (f) cable, doesn't work tho
I had cables that I could plug in a couplers and I thought that'd work but no go

does it specifically have to be scart to male vga, is there some big difference in 'em? something different for connecting to a PC
there's like no descriptions on most of the generic stuff
this is the best description I've seen so far on a generic and even it's meh, is the description there 'cause it's expecting a signal over 15kHz? wot is it, I can output to 15 etc

[Anonymous No.9890152]

>>9889649
thank you daddy
>>9890068
I don't really know when it was made, it's over at my late aunt's house and looks mid 80's. I don't even know what inputs it has yet, pic related. Scart would be the best for me. Pic related.
>>9890068
I don't think it has component connections
>>9889556
It's only because I have many consoles that can hook up to Scart so my plan is to have them all plugged in at a rack or something like that, I don't really wanna bother with a million of cables

[Anonymous No.9890169]

>>9890152
There's also this one that's in the living room, it's bigger but the aesthetics aren't as cool. That one doesn't require any mods at all, I think.

[Anonymous No.9890216]

>>9890131
what are you trying to do?

[Anonymous No.9890283]

>>9890216
>what are you trying to do?
Trying to output from PC (VGA) via analogue (VGA) out from a radeon GPU to a TV via SCART.
Installed CRT emudriver, used the vmmaker tool to add the 15kHz resolutions, enabled EDID emulation and nothing, when it's hooked up, nothing at all happens. The scart port works 100% fine with consoles.

I've looked some more at devices and pretty much everything has no info or says it's for connecting like an old DVD or set top box to a PC monitor/TV etc and not connecting say a PC to a SCART TV.
Only thing I'm seeing is the UMSA but that's kinda expensive. Someone also mentioned VGA2SCART Sync converter but that's another that says it's console > VGA monitor and not the other way around.
The UMSA is waaay outside my price range so I'm kinda lost on if a dumb cable'll even work now or if vga2scart's even an option.

I can output at 15kHz but the problem seems to be the adapter step. Using my 17" CRT monitor is fine for just raw VGA > VGA at 31kHz+. I'm kinda lost desu.

[Anonymous No.9890319]

>>9890049
>after all we're right around the corner to better display methods anyways.
Nothing can beat the glass, nothing.

[Anonymous No.9890431]

>>9890131
>>9890283
the thing you're using is simply a passive passthrough cable for things that output rgbs from the vga port
if your card supports it, try enabling composite sync in vmmaker, if your card doesn't support it, you're gonna need something that can convert rgbhv to rgbs
>Someone also mentioned VGA2SCART Sync converter but that's another that says it's console > VGA monitor and not the other way around.
?

[Anonymous No.9890452]

>>9890049
you should anon i too am tired of autistic zoomers

[Anonymous No.9890754]

[Anonymous No.9890970]

>>9890431
>the thing you're using is simply a passive passthrough cable for things that output rgbs from the vga port
>if your card supports it, try enabling composite sync in vmmaker,
I got an R7 250 so I think it should. I haven't read anything that says it doesn't but I read up on it, I uninstalled all the previous profiles etc, deleted the previous EDID listings in CRU, restarted.
Went at it fresh, enabled composite sync, changed the lines in monitor.ini to 1, 1 and nothing. Stubborn as a mule, it doesn't wanna display. It's prob 'cause it's got a female VGA connector idk.

>?
Well, this is the first line on the site.
>This converter is used to convert RGBHV (VGA) to RGBs (SCART), so that you can use VGA consoles/devices with a monitor/TV/upscaler that only accepts SCART.
It's bad site design that's trapped me. The blurb underneath doesn't mention it and it's lost in the sauce. In the 2nd blurb which you highlighted is buried and I've skimmed right over it.
So this one should work and it'd work with more than just 240p, 480i etc by the sounds of it.
They even word this strangely.
> as long as your SCART output device is able to display/handle the resolution!
>Converting HDMI “super-resolution” 240p from HDMI to VGA. CPSHDMI & Raspberry Pi can be set to 240p, then along with a cheap DAC and this converter, you can get the signal on your SCART monitor/TV.
They've made it clear it's not a downscaler, don't need that.

Well. It's a lot more reasonably priced than the other one and has free delivery, so that's a plus.
Thanks for helping anon, I am not a clever person.

[Anonymous No.9891046]

>>9890970
idk I may be wrong but I think this trick only works with ancient cards
try doing what this dude does here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YsCj55ZM1Y
>It's prob 'cause it's got a female VGA connector idk.
the bisexual adapter doesn't really matter unless its missing pins or some other dumb shit
also no offense but with that reading comprehension it is entirely possible that you messed something else in the setup process

[Anonymous No.9891681]

I suspect I may need to re-calibrate my 14M2. What version of 240p Test Suite should I use?

I can run it on SNES, Genesis, PS2, and Wii. PS1 won't work for some reason. PS2 is always kinda dark and shifted to the right. I also have a Sony DVD player that's pretty decent.

And what settings should I look for? The problem is whites are too bright, blacks are too dark, although that's been noticeable with PS2 which may not have the best output.

[Anonymous No.9891958]

>>9891046
Nah. I'd enabled it properly and unlike that example there was no rolling picture or anything at all.

>it's entirely possible that you messed something else in the setup process
I'm not offended, it's mistaking raw reading comprehension for an understanding of specific analogue video formats while juggling various products including their version w/ sync stripper. That's why people ask for help ultimately, because it's foreign to them, it's easy to get lost in jargon & formats going through it all. There's a world apart between plugging in a VGA cable to a monitor for 10 years using CRU and knowing the difference between specific video formats, requirements, timing intricacies, pinouts & syncing etc.
You'd have to be a sociopath to hold something against someone for suggesting that.

The setup process isn't really long or particularly complex e There's installing emudriver which was done clean with no other AMD/ATI drivers installed. Emudriver worked fine with the CRT monitor. It's selecting the correct port, correct GPU/Display which isn't complex either, enabling EDID emulation, changing 0, 0 to 1, 1 and ticking a box. It's been done independently of the CRT monitor and even it's records were wiped too to avoid conflict.
VMM is even working fine with a CRT monitor but just not the TV or 15kHz signal through the SCART/VGA adapter.

Reading more on it, It seems pretty likely it's the cable, reading their support forums indicates it's probably the cable and UMSA is mentioned as not being perfect either. It's a cable off of ebay with no description and the other cheap ones have the "this will not work from" messages attached too regardless of gender.
I'll try the other options out, thanks for the help.

[Anonymous No.9891997]

>>9888084
Why not use crtemudriver instead since you're on AMD anyway?

[Anonymous No.9892051]

>>9890283
Most SCART CRT's require a voltage on pin 16 to go into RGB mode. The cable you posted won't do that. And it probably won't combine sync properly.
I actually bought the VGA2SCART adapter from the Retroupgrades recently and it works perfectly fine with any resolution and refresh rate I throw at it. It has a micro USB input for pin 16 as well.
This is my setup: R7 260x > DVI-I to VGA > VGA2SCART > CRT.

[Anonymous No.9892058]

>>9879129
Will this give me 240p?

[Anonymous No.9892364]

>>9892058
almost certainly not, looks like a passive adapter

[Anonymous No.9893745]

Retrovision SNES cables and Retrotink 5x went up in price, why? did nintendo stuff blow up in popularity again?

[Anonymous No.9894440]

>>9892364
So will it work at all? If I set the resolution on Windows to 240

[Anonymous No.9894453]

>>9894440
You know what 240 is on windows?

[Anonymous No.9894906]

>>9894440
if it's just connecting some vga pins to those plugs, no. vga doesn't even have audio output.

[Anonymous No.9894910]

>>9887085
Update on this. Found 2 more bad pads on the back of the chassis and patched them up. I now have a working picture on the monitor.

Unfortunately the OSD controls that the chassis controls to adjust the picture aren't working so now I'll have to look into what's causing that.

[Anonymous No.9894916]

>>9894910
You and I are probably the last people on this board that know how to solder. Shit's dead nowadays.

[Anonymous No.9895003]

>>9894916
Is it really that bad now?

>>9894910
>>9887085

Anyways, OSD is now fixed, bad pin header on the chassis that plugs into the blast city cab's control panel.

Feels good man

[Anonymous No.9895010]

>>9895003
Looks good. That bad pin header could have been the reason the other guy tried to recap it and failed.
I posted in another thread earlier about how I fixed a Dualshock 2 LED. Both pins had cold solder joints. Feels good too but more in a got lucky way. Yours has to be in a earned it kind of way.

[Anonymous No.9895140]

>>9895003
Good job anon, looks nice
You might wanna check linearity as well

[Anonymous No.9896018]

Trying to balance a tv with a weak red gun and it’s incredibly tedious. Even with the blue drive all the way down it still runs brighter than the red

[Anonymous No.9896037]

>>9894916
i can solder i just rarely spend time modding or fixing stuff

[Anonymous No.9897015]

>>9890049
Do whatever makes (you) happy, anon.

[Anonymous No.9897034]

>>9894916
I just learned a few years ago but I've gotten decent at it, only one failed project out of like 5

[Anonymous No.9897037]

>>9897034
It's only a failure if it can't be fixed

[Anonymous No.9897381]

>>9894440
No that’s for connecting video to vga projectors. Won’t work as a vga to component adaptor.

[Anonymous No.9897487]

This might be the ultimate brainlet question, but I've never thought of this before. My tv only has only has speakers on the left of it. This means it is mono, right? If i plug headphones into it, is it still mono?

[Anonymous No.9897507]

>>9897487
depends, do both audio plugs go into the back?

[Anonymous No.9897575]

>>9897507
>do both audio plugs go into the back
There is a composite connection in the front and in the back, as well as an rf in the back but it's seldom ever used by me

[Anonymous No.9897583]

>>9897575
that didn't really answer my question
if stereo is going in then stereo will most likely come out of the headphones
you could always bypass all that by putting the audio into a separate source

[Anonymous No.9897615]

>>9897487
probably dual mono, unless there's white and red connectors on the inputs like the other guy said. white is left channel, red is right channel. hearing one channel on both headphones isn't stereo

[Anonymous No.9897638]

[Anonymous No.9897741]

>>9897575
how many audio connections do you plug into it from your console son

[Anonymous No.9897851]

>>9888864
I got myself a BeoVision MX4002/BeoLink 1000 for 40 euros, found it in a local thrift shop yesterday.

I also have an AudioSonic KT8954TX as spare.

[Anonymous No.9899307]

B&O's are insanely aesthetic, second only to Hantarex monitors or Sony ProFeel.

[Anonymous No.9899338]

>>9899307
I'd hardly call your pic aesthetic, but the other two definitely are

[Anonymous No.9899389]

>>9897037
I'm sure it can, maybe not with my current tools. My cheap Weller brand iron got too hot and destroyed a solder pad on a PS1 I was modchipping. I also dropped a bit too much solder on a chip's leg and made a mess I tried cleaning up with solder braid but I'm not actually sure how well that turned out. It still powers on but doesn't get past the BIOs now. It was a free playstation though so I'm not invested in it really, I may pick it up as a project one day when I have the interest.

[Anonymous No.9899613]

>>9899338
Respect the cube

[Anonymous No.9899620]

>>9899613
OK, it looks aesthetic when it's like that

[Anonymous No.9899691]

>>9899613
Beautiful. How do you even connect CRTs to display a single image like this?

[Anonymous No.9899709]

>>9899691
there were separate video wall image processors necessary to make it work

[Anonymous No.9900489]

>>9895003
another update on this

left the tube on for 15 minutes and was gonna adjust convergence with strips, now it begins to lose color and the image zooms in extremely, only like 25% of the screen is visible and it's a zoomed in portion, not shrinking.

i'm at a loss of what happened, caps all look good, solder joints look good

im unsure if this is a flyback issue, there's no noise or whine/sparking, and iirc flyback would be the opposite where the picture shrinks, not zooms in

Any crt experts? pic rel is how it looks after like 10min of being on, on cold start it's better but nothing like how it was when it was 'fixed

[Anonymous No.9900492]

>>9900489
here it is on cold boot now, it looks nothing like before, you can see the bottom right is already clipped off you can't see 'credit' anymore and as it stays on the color slowly drains away and the picture slowly zooms in

i've been checking it the last 2 days and im just at a loss and defeated

=/

[Anonymous No.9900501]

>>9900489
>caps all look goo
I think you're gonna have to change them anyway

[Anonymous No.9900503]

>>9900501
That's how I got it working...

[Anonymous No.9900506]

>>9900503
What I mean is, they're all brand new caps now

[Anonymous No.9900746]

r8 this stand I made for my crt

[Anonymous No.9900845]

>>9900746
Shape is fine, smooth it out and finish it with something nice.

[Anonymous No.9900853]

i recently got an absolutely beat to shit sharp 29fl8-4m (what i assume is the latam version of the 27f640 or similar sharp xflat from the era), the tube actually is perfectly fine with good geometry for a flat crt, but VM is absolutely destroying 2d games on it, the service manual says i need to push the volume down and channel up buttons while plugging in the tv to the wall, however the volume buttons on the tv are completely fucking gone (there isnt even anything behind them to press), the OEM remote that came with it literally fell apart in pieces the moment i tried changing its batteries, and every combination of universal remotes and phone ir blaster apps i've tried has given me no results for the service menu, does anyone have a clue on how to access the service menu on this thing? or am i just fucked because of the broken volume buttons?

[Anonymous No.9900935]

>>9900853
you can short the connections of the volume button together or try and repair/replace the remote

[Anonymous No.9900946]

>>9900845
Already sanded and used a sealer. Unfortunately the wood filler sticks out like a sore thumb, but i built this for function, so whatever. Might just forgo a paint job and use a clear satin finish.

[Anonymous No.9901274]

>>9900506
Did you replace the big cap that’s next to the fbt?

[Anonymous No.9901301]

>>9900946
Shellac is the best sealer, but you already did that. Then you can try gel stain or just go straight to satin polyurethane. What color of TV are you going to put on it? A dark gel stain would hide the filler and look good with a black TV, but if the TV is silver I'd consider white gel stain. Depends on your room too. Or just black paint. Finishing is my favorite part of woodworking.

[Anonymous No.9901336]

left to right;
consumer TV, PVM, crappy LCD, actual data

[Anonymous No.9901361]

>>9899691
>>9899709
what? you can just use a matrix switcher

[Anonymous No.9901372]

>>9901336
cool, thanks anon. I don't think the LCD looks too bad
can't go wrong with a consumer set. I still like PVMs more, just not the 800+TVL BVMs where the scanline gaps are larger than the actual image lines

[Anonymous No.9901394]

>>9901372
forgot to clarify, the LCD is with an emulator
it looks horrific with composite

[Anonymous No.9901448]

>>9901274
Yeah, big old 200V 1000uF.

[Anonymous No.9901472]

https://strawpoll.com/polls/2ayLkRPlMZ4

[Anonymous No.9901517]

Why is it impossible to find TT codes for sony service menus? Service manuals have everything except them.

[Anonymous No.9901524]

>>9900492
>>9900489
could be a resistor failing, if it's not the HV supply

[Anonymous No.9901563]

>>9896018
is there anything to be done? I simply can't make the red strong enough to match the blue and green. Should I recap anything, and/or should I try any tube rejuvenation tricks? The image is still pretty decent and the image can get quite bright besides the damn red

[Anonymous No.9901607]

>>9901524
thanks for the suggestion, just went over allthe neckboard resitors, all match the service manual values, probed some on the chassis near power circuitry, same thing

bout to throwin the towel on this not sure what else i can do

[Anonymous No.9901631]

>>9879129
which shader can I use to get the most accurate to this?

[Batowl No.9901646]

>>9879129
Any with shenmue

[Anonymous No.9901648]

>>9901394
Is it 4K or 1080p?

[Anonymous No.9901654]

>>9901563
Silly question but are you using sync on green?

[Anonymous No.9901704]

>>9901654
No, but now that you mention it I’m using my old busted prototype rgb cable. Maybe my better one will look better

[Anonymous No.9901714]

>>9901301
Here’s my TV, I’ve posted it once in these threads before. My room has this “hardwood flooring” that’s actually just tile and they are some sort gray, but not really. Best I could describe the walls are some sort of very pale gray/blue. I’m only living in this apartment until the lease ends in January, so I could live without painting it for now.

[Anonymous No.9901716]

>>9901704
update: no dice. I think the the gun itself is weak as when I turn the brightness up the red loses focus which I've read is a symptom of the filament being degraded. I just wonder if it can't be helped, the other colors are so much less worn than the red. Maybe the previous owners had a strange use case for it...

[Anonymous No.9901724]

>>9901716
you're kinda sol with a weak gun. rejuvenation only really works in the short term if it works at all.

[Anonymous No.9901726]

>>9901716
try and mess with the cut settings

[Anonymous No.9901730]

>>9901726
I have the b and g background and drive levels all the way down, unfortunately. It's also one of those sets that has no red bias control because you're supposed to adjust the others relative to it.

[Anonymous No.9901734]

>>9901730
I should check the the voltage at the red cathode to see if I could boost it by replacing components in the drive circuit. Don't want to replace caps if it's a lost cause

[Anonymous No.9901735]

>>9901734
you could try just replacing resistors and caps on the neck
I'm not sure how to check the gun levels without using a rejuvenating tool

[Anonymous No.9901736]

These threads kind of opened my eyes. I've had the same television since maybe 2004. I still love playing games on it. Then I learned it's a composite only mono doodoo television. I don't think I'm going to get a better tv though, I like this one. It's a trinitron, so maybe that's why it looks and feels so nice in spite of being composite only. I know people like that line or brand of tvs.

[Anonymous No.9901740]

>>9901736
the 90s composite only trinitrons are the definition of 'it just works'. They do have a cap on how nice they can look, but they almost never look bad. Most headache-free kind of tv

[Anonymous No.9901789]

>>9901734
in my experience weak gun = dead. even if you mitigate by adjusting GB its not going to look great.

[Anonymous No.9901796]

>>9901789
when a gun goes bad is it common for the other guns to still be bright? It's suspicious to me how much weaker the red is than the others, but it does seem to be the gun

[Anonymous No.9901843]

>>9901796
either:

>the tube cathodes are wearing out
>amplifier transistors on the neckboard are wearing out

you can pull neckboard transistors, test them, replace any out of spec and hope it fixes it. Otherwise you get a tube tester but I've no idea how to use them.

one gun getting weaker sooner would depend mostly on what content was being displayed and for how long.

[Anonymous No.9901878]

>>9901843
well at least the neckboard is small

[Anonymous No.9901880]

>>9901843
Maybe I'll try a tube swap. I'm pretty sure this kv-20xbr shares the same tube as some old PVMs, but I'm not sure which. I bet I could find a broken one for sale.

[Anonymous No.9901886]

>>9901563
What's the model? I like the aesthetics. Shame about your gun, I'm sure it would make for a great set.

[Anonymous No.9901890]

>>9901886
it's the kv-20xbr, sony's first xbr. It came with rgb for microcomputers over a 34pin floppy connector, and also external sony apm speakers with SQUARE surrounds (these are also broken and a huge pain to find a fix).
Luckily I got it as a pair with the larger 25" version that works well, so this is just a long project.

[Anonymous No.9901892]

>>9901880
I think the XBR might have the same tube as a PVM 2030, check that out. Hope it works out anon.

[Anonymous No.9901954]

>>9901714
Well if you want to keep it wood grain it would help it stand out. Gray is in style now, not a trend I'm a fan of, but they do make gray gel stain. Might go well with a modern room and a silver TV. Like you said you've got time to wait though.
I'm jealous, wood is too expensive now otherwise I'd love to make something similar and stain it. You can always do more coats of gel stain and get a darker more solid color than this example. I've used the Java stuff before and it looks really good. Just make sure you put in the work to prep.

[Anonymous No.9901968]

>>9901892
lol I found the tube for sale at the airplane surplus store. I wonder what they would charge me

[Anonymous No.9902004]

>>9901954
Second to last one is closest to my floor. I own an upholstery shop, and I build frames for beds, headboards, ottomans, etc. so I was able to use mostly scrap. Thank goodness, too because plywood is getting up there in price. Thanks for telling me about the gel stains, anon. Never knew they were a thing, as my knowledge on this stuff is very basic.

[Anonymous No.9902013]

>>9901648
1080p from a time when that was something to brag about. Only LCD TV I've ever owned. I've never had anything 4k and don't think I ever will.

[Anonymous No.9902026]

>>9902004
There's also Carbon Gray, but it's pretty similar to black.
General Finishes is good stuff. I'll never go back to Minwax again.

[Anonymous No.9902086]

>>9902013
Yeah, I was just saying because 4K usually scales a lot better

[Anonymous No.9902247]

>>9902086
Not like it matters with forcingly deinterlaced composite.

[Anonymous No.9902261]

>>9879359
Because that's what screen arcade cabinets had in them?

[Anonymous No.9902263]

>>9880741
How would a picture of some random guy in a reflection dox him?

[Anonymous No.9902282]

im pretty disappointed that i cant find crts anywhere - not even good ones, but even the shitty ones. absolutely none of the thrift stores take them anymore so they never have any in stock, and every dumbass with an internet connection thinks they have an antique worth hundreds. plus, shipping for one costs a ton which makes online buys very unappealing.

i want to get back into glitch art and its very difficult to find crts at all anymore. you guys have any tips for finding stuff locally?

[Anonymous No.9902284]

>>9902282
facebook marketplace and craigslist
search for old/tube tv before CRT

[Anonymous No.9902301]

>>9902284
yeah thats smart, most people probably still dont call them crts.

tangentially, would anyone know of a decent-yet-affordable breakout for hdmi/vga/dvi to any of the common crt formats? like under 50 bucks or so? i could definitely do a vga breakout, but iirc you lose color with it, which id like to preserve.

[Anonymous No.9902538]

>>9901646
My DC is in my closet somewhere and I don't even have Shenmue, sorry. I've got the mister hooked up to it if you wanna see anything PS1 andd before on it.

[Anonymous No.9902649]

Got this thing for 15 bucks. At least it has rgb.

[Anonymous No.9902665]

>>9902649
tiny

[Anonymous No.9902674]

>>9902665
Just like my dick.

[Anonymous No.9902736]

>>9901716
You need one of these babies

[Anonymous No.9903086]

>>9902301
>i could definitely do a vga breakout, but iirc you lose color with it
???
It's just RGBHV to RGBS, you don't lose any information with it. Unless you're talking about converting to composite, then yeah, but everything will look shit via composite regardless of what your source signal is.

[Anonymous No.9903094]

>>9902674
got 'em

[Anonymous No.9903104]

I have a crt with a single deepish scratch on the front that I just kinda realized might not be the safest thing to have around right? It's not any particularly desireable model or anything but it's from around 2006 or something like that iirc so it at least has that going for it. Should I just throw that thing away? I do have a bit of a boner for these cheap 00's crts.

[Anonymous No.9903124]

>>9903086
now that you mention it, i do distinctly remember that the breakout diagram i was thinking of was vga to composite. it stuck with me because it was purely done with passive components and required no software or specialized hardware, but it was also very limited.

ideally i would like to find a solution that is as close to 1:1 as possible both in color and resolution. i can deal with it if its a kit, but id rather not have to buy shit like an eeprom programmer and start using breadboards just yet. id like to get a handle on just displaying stuff reliably before getting into analog signal manipulation.

[Anonymous No.9903143]

>>9903124
https://www.retrorgb.com/building-a-passive-sync-combiner.html
Literally all you need apart from breaking out the wires and making a custom SCART/BNC cable. Provided you output a proper 240p/480i signal from your GPU of course.

[Anonymous No.9903189]

>>9903143
this is at least 8 years later than the most recent literature ive read on the topic, which is admittedly not much at all. i think after the several years ive spent neglecting the subject of analog signalling/analog logic i can safely say that i need to invest the time to understand the formats involved in analog media before actually doing anything with them, and this article really succinctly demonstrates that.

id love to try and dive headfirst into analog stuff, but i thankfully know better than to do without knowing, so would any of you folks happen to have links to need-to-know stuff regarding analog formats and devices?

[Anonymous No.9904004]

Anybody have opinions on color calibration?
I found an old Spyder at salvation army for $5 and used it with HCFR to calibrate my XM37. Seems like it did a good job, but I hear that old colorimeters drift quite a bit with age, so I suspect it's not really accurate.

[Anonymous No.9904048]

>>9904004
Do they even work properly on CRT’s?

[Anonymous No.9904057]

>>9904048
This meter is from ~2004, so it was mostly made for CRTs. It needs an extra attachment to do LCDs.
Some newer ones also supposedly work. I was following this video https://youtu.be/695fk63FYFk

[Anonymous No.9904274]

Have a crt that blinks/flashes in the bottom right corner. Also whines when on bright/white screen. I'm guessing this is a power supply problem. Would a recap be likely to fix it?

[Anonymous No.9904282]

>>9904274
sounds like the flyback is going bad

[Anonymous No.9904309]

>>9904282
that's what I'm afraid of. I'll try a recap first to see if that helps.

[Anonymous No.9904350]

>>9902649
>PS2 shifted to the left
Wtf, it's normally always shifted to the right. And dark. PS2 video quality is shitty. That TV looks good though.

[Anonymous No.9904403]

>>9904274
I don’t think the blinking is related to the whine
But first replace the biggest capacitor next to the flyback
Could be a quick fix

[Anonymous No.9904406]

>>9904350
I think it’s a PAL thing because mine shifts to the left when playing NTSC too

[Anonymous No.9904419]

>>9904403
I hope so. The tube itself is in great condition.

[Anonymous No.9904424]

>>9904419
I only say it from a similar experience, do you also get a loud hiss?

[Anonymous No.9904442]

>>9904424
Nope.

[Anonymous No.9904454]

>>9904004
I used my monacoptics thing for all my crt monitors and it worked great for me, but for a tv set I do think it’s quite overkill unless you have BVM levels of calibration control

[Anonymous No.9904765]

>>9904350
Games are fucked in general. I have no idea why random games will have big black bars on the bottom sometimes, the top sometimes, the left sometimes, etc. I only play NTSC games too, NA or JP.

[Anonymous No.9904785]

>>9904765
But you're a european and play on a european tv? that explains it.
The only issues I've ever had are PS2 always being to the right and dark, and Wii is slightly dark.

[Anonymous No.9904837]

>>9904785
No? I live in Maine and I've never used a PAL television before.

[Anonymous No.9904846]

>>9904837
Maine, Germany

[Anonymous No.9905014]

>>9901336
>actual data
actual retard

[Anonymous No.9905160]

>>9879129
My TV recently stopped showing blue color in RGB mode (all colors work in composite) as you can see on the picrel, and it's definitely not a cable issue. Do you think replacing the blue transistor on the neckboard fix it?

[Anonymous No.9905271]

>>9905160
if the color works fine on composite, then the problem is probably somewhere before the signal hits the jungle chip. maybe something wrong with the scart socket or a cold solder joint. i would check for continuity between the blue input pins on the jungle chip and scart socket.

[Anonymous No.9905331]

>>9905160
>and it's definitely not a cable issue
You sure?
Looks like the plug is not completely connecting, jiggle it around a bit

[Anonymous No.9905425]

>>9904785
>But you're a european and play on a european tv? that explains it.
What would that have to do with anything? A PAL PS2 in 60Hz mode (when playing an NTSC game or a PAL one that supports this mode) sends out a proper 60Hz signal, with NTSC color when using composite (not even PAL60).
If your TV supports NTSC or at least 60Hz refresh rate via RGB, then it's just like playing on an American or Japanese TV. The set being European has absolutely no bearing on the scan area.
It's just that PS2 games are all over the place. Most of them don't even render the full 480 lines, it's often 448. That's why you get underscan and the picture is shifted sometimes.

[Anonymous No.9905627]

>>9883171
>B&O CRT
is that an ethernet port?

[Anonymous No.9905628]

>>9905627
AAAAAH damn auto-past

[Anonymous No.9905806]

>>9905627
likely rj11 for calibration or some other funky peripherals

[Anonymous No.9906003]

Might send away for it. 30 dollar rebate seems like a good deal for a gaming TV.

[Anonymous No.9906052]

>>9905806
thanks. makes sense

[Anonymous No.9906080]

>>9905271
You're probably right, thanks for the lead. I'm just not very familiar with CRT insides, glad mine's chassis are documented.
>>9905331
nah, I've went as far as passing the blue signal to other color pins which worked fine

[Anonymous No.9906194]

>>9906003
>3D Front Surround
Are they just trying to hide it being mono or is that actually a thing?

[Anonymous No.9906201]

>>9906003
>19 inch
>portable
What? My 13 inch tv is really heavy. A 19 inch telly would be murder to move around regularly as if it were truly portable.

[Anonymous No.9906267]

>>9881447
They are top tier. They use philips tubes, which are underrated. Extensive adjustment options, but you need special remote (Logitech Harmony doesn't work), which can cost more than CRT itself.

[Anonymous No.9906271]

>>9879129
Managed to find a Sylvania 6420FF on the curb. Asked the guy who's curb it was on about it and he gave it to me. How good is it, because it's fine for me.

[Anonymous No.9906756]

20€ Diamontron CRT. Emulation 240p scaled to 5X = 1600x1200@60Hz plus my pixel perfect fake-scanlines.

[Anonymous No.9906769]

>>9906756
>Scaling on a multisyncing display

[Anonymous No.9906791]

>>9906769
This monitor isn't capable of displaying signals below 31kHz. I wanted to have two black bars after three image lines. I could have also set the resolution to 240p@120Hz, but that would cause issues with motion.

[Anonymous No.9906804]

>>9906201
>"Portable" "gaming" television

[Anonymous No.9906886]

>>9906201
lol weenie
i'm 6'2" 250 lbs and can bench press 275 lbs
a tv like that would be nothing

[Anonymous No.9906978]

>>9906886
Not all of us are gym rats. I'm 6'2 also and weigh ~190 lbs.

[Anonymous No.9907003]

>>9906201
>>9906978
top tier bait tbqh

[Anonymous No.9907005]

>>9907003
You're trying a liiiittle too hard. Reel it back a bit.

[Anonymous No.9907030]

>>9907005
>admitting that you're an emaciated pussy instead pretending you were just having a laugh
anon

[Anonymous No.9907036]

>>9907030
This just screams insecurity. Strong body but weakmind.

[Anonymous No.9907037]

>>9907030
>being this insecure about gains
>thinking anyone on a retro board would care about weightlifting
>>>/fit/ fairy

[Anonymous No.9907038]

>>9907036
>>9907030
>>9907005
talk about crts you faggots

[Anonymous No.9907039]

>>9907030
Man, I told you to reel it back and you just doubled down. I've seen twelve year olds on /v/ that are better at baiting than you.

[Anonymous No.9907047]

>>9907041
what model?

[Anonymous No.9907048]

>>9907039
You watch twelve year olds baiting?

[Anonymous No.9907049]

>>9907047
janny deleted a legit post, sad face :(

[Anonymous No.9907051]

>>9907047
Can't say, I'm paranoid someone might grab it if I do. I'll post tomorrow for sure.

[Anonymous No.9907056]

>>9907051

[Anonymous No.9907060]

>>9906201
if that is heavy to you anon i suggest making some lifestyle changes. you will feel better and be able to do more. this is not an insult or a flex, i want your life to improve

[Anonymous No.9907065]

>>9907060
I'm going to take up smoking and stay in bed all day just to spite your unsolicited advice faggot

[Anonymous No.9907082]

>>9907065
are you sure that cigarette isn't too heavy for you?

[Anonymous No.9907113]

>>9907082
I'm not the anon you were talking to, keep playing guess who though

[Anonymous No.9907197]

What's a realistic lifetime amount for a BVM before the picture generally starts degrading?

[Anonymous No.9907210]

>>9902649
i grew up with one of these in my bedroom. great tv, good times

[Anonymous No.9907215]

Picked up an RCA F32632SB for free today. It was on the 2nd story of a home and was a BITCH to get home safely. Those 32 inch curved tubes are THICC. 1998 production with svideo and split composite. Made in Bloomington IN. She's one of the LAST American produced RCA CRTs before they moved the plant to Juarez that year. Still needs to be dusted, but it works fine. Absolutely fucked myself solo moving it home though.

[Anonymous No.9907315]

Snes games look great on my Sony Wega, I love it. So crisp n' clean.

[Anonymous No.9907642]

>>9907315
All games up to 6th gen will and a few on 7th gen will too

[Anonymous No.9907703]

>>9904004
These things are amazing if you get an old used one like you did. I don't even care about the "proper" calibration profiles ability... it's great just to be able to set the RGB so each color is balanced and you don't have a green or blue tint to the screen. Eyeballing it is too subjective and prone to error.

[Anonymous No.9907716]

>>9906201
I had a Magnavox (Phillips tube) 25" that only weighed 40 lbs. A 13" PVM weighs about 35.

[Anonymous No.9907753]

[Anonymous No.9907895]

>>9907197
Tubes were changed at around 20k hours on professional stations, take that as you will.

[Anonymous No.9908028]

>>9907197
About 50k hours.
>>9907895
This is false.

[Anonymous No.9908148]

Can I hook my PC to a CRT tv and emulate games on it? will it look as if I plugged a console in it or it's more complicated than that?

[Anonymous No.9908310]

>>9881641
Why the hate for Philips? They made quality tubes. Keep in mind JVC also didn't have their own tube factory and a lot of the JVC monitors actually use Philips tubes. They are underrated.

[Anonymous No.9908330]

>>9907753
Pretty. What TV is that?

[Anonymous No.9908345]

>>9879129
it looks like shit with a cellphone picture but whatever.

[Anonymous No.9908350]

>>9908345
If your phone has a 'pro' mode or similar, set the shutter speed to 1/60, works well for most games. getting the focus right helps

>>9908330
PVM 20L5

[Anonymous No.9908430]

So I got back a diagnosis on my PVM 1341. Bad news it has some phosphor burns that will never go away but honestly cant notice them while watching stuff on it or playing games so not a big issue for me. The guy I gave it to had another associate he delegates the harder work too and he told him that the Vertical balancing needed to be fixed and obviously had to recap it to make sure the PVM is in working order. In all honesty im at a loss, nothing aside from a solid white line at the top of my PVM (which went away with time) was the only issue I had, yet he wanted to charge me like $400. Thoughts? did I avoid wasting money or should I consider the maintenance? sidenote I found out I have a 1988 model

[Anonymous No.9908448]

>>9908430
A recap wouldn't fix the bleeding.

[Anonymous No.9908459]

>>9908028
There's no way in hell a Pro-grade CRT meant for critical work can remain accurate under severe professional environment for 50k hours. I believe the recommended replacement time is closer to 30k hours, as savon once said.
It will probably still look fine if you wanna play "BING BING WAHOO" though.

[Anonymous No.9908464]

>>9908448
so do I just have a dying PVM? should I just use it till it dies out? cause I doubt I could get away with trying to sell it

[Anonymous No.9908470]

This isn't /vr/ but who cares, I haven't owned or probably even used a vcr since maybe 2004 or 2005. Are there any brands of vhs players I should keep an eye out for as I poke around the net? Have some old home movies I'd like to view.

[Anonymous No.9908476]

>>9908470
Yes, look at this video he'll tell you which ones are good or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbsCX_-o6n0

[Anonymous No.9908483]

>>9908476
Haven't seen this in years, lmao.

[Anonymous No.9908574]

>>9908148
I haven't tried it, but you'll need an older amd graphics card that can output 15khz with CRT emudriver, and some tinkering on retroarch to get to look right. Also try to avoid sending your tv a 31khz signal.
http://geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?id=295

[Anonymous No.9908586]

>>9908574
can I use a 2nd card in my current desktop and use it to output only to the CRT or should I build a second PC just for that?

[Anonymous No.9908678]

>>9908586
I'd imagine so, but I can't help you with that I'm afraid.

[Anonymous No.9908903]

>>9908470
Look for late Hi-Fi models, you can find them for dirty cheap and they do the job really well. I like JVCs because you dont need a remote for the menu.
Dont EVER buy 80s/90s machines, they're overpriced ticking timebombs that will only give you problems down the line. Old machines+moving parts is a nasty combination, they're not like CRTs or Vintage amplifiers.

[Anonymous No.9908938]

>>9908903
This is the exact advice I would have given. Nice work. I love my JVC.

[Anonymous No.9908949]

has anyone ever heard about the brand *lifetec*? they apparently made crts back long before the days of the internet; i google them and i cant find any info on this brand but some old tvs on google shopping.

[Anonymous No.9908953]

>>9908430
Sounds like a fuck off number which is what I would give you, too. Nobody likes working on these. It's a lot of time/labor and has a high chance of not fixing anything or the customer having unrealistic expectations.
If you can't do it yourself don't expect someone else to. TV repair isn't a thing anymore and hasn't been for over 20 years.

[Anonymous No.9908964]

>>9908903
That said, if you're willing to repair belts and pinch rollers then the world is your oyster.

[Anonymous No.9909048]

>>9908953
yeah seemed a bit too high for my taste desu, but it was going to be my main tv to play on so idk anymore might just try to see if I can sell it

[Anonymous No.9909119]

>>9908350
is this looking better.

[Anonymous No.9909123]

>>9909119
bit fuzzy but it's fine, probably the limitation of your lens, it's a good pic

[Anonymous No.9909175]

>>9907056
"Tube TV" query strikes again! After a full day of lugging it out of the nice fellow's home and into my own, I am now the proud owner of a JVC I'Art AV-32F713. That's 32" of gorgeous television real estate and it was FREE. You won't believe it but the guy also threw in a GameCube as well which came with Super Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, NHL HITZ 2002 and two controllers. ALL FREE. What!! I'm still stoked despite my back.[/spoilers]

[Anonymous No.9909186]

>>9909175
Slightly better pic. Is there a guide or something on how to better capture the screen besides shutter speed?

[Anonymous No.9909187]

>>9909175
Nice. thanks for keeping me posted, looks good

WTF BRO I CAN SEE THE SCANLINES ON YOUR CONSUMER TV THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM GOING CRAZY I wonder what retard started that myth

[Anonymous No.9909210]

Comfy

[Anonymous No.9909231]

Okay, serious question. Are dreams capable of emulating CRT quality? I had a dream that I was playing Mario 2 last night and I was frustrated that the picture was too clear.

[Anonymous No.9909306]

>>9909186
tripod and timer

[Anonymous No.9909319]

>>9909306
What does the timer do?

[Anonymous No.9909349]

>>9909319
nta but I think it's so you're not touching the camera when it goes off. I have a little bluetooth clicker that came with my tripod for that purpose.

[Anonymous No.9909408]

>>9909349
That makes sense, thanks all

[Anonymous No.9909506]

>>9909231
i've dreamt with subtitles before so it's probably possible

[Anonymous No.9909525]

>>9909231
>>9909506
>Are dreams capable
nobody cares about your dreams

[Anonymous No.9909596]

>>9909525
Who hurt you and was it yourself

[Anonymous No.9909642]

>>9909306
>>9909349
Killer. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.9910910]

Bump

[Anonymous No.9910972]

I have a computer that outputs a 4:3 aspect ratio. I'm wondering if I could project the image from it to an old crt tv. Because they're the same aspect ratio, I wonder if this could be achieved with an HDMI to RCA cable. I thought it would be quaint to play some old videos on it that way, or even see how a modern game would look on a crt tv for the fun of it.

[Anonymous No.9910984]

>>9910972
Easy-peasy. Check amazon or ebay for an "HDMI to RCA" adapter. There are plenty of dirt cheap ones that'll do the job well enough.

[Anonymous No.9911102]

[Anonymous No.9911207]

>>9887286
>Right now I'm experimenting and doing that meme thing where people place their television at an angle

[Anonymous No.9911508]

>>9909186
>>9909175
I have an i'art 27" and noticed that when I turn it on after a day of unplugged no use, the screen is green tinted for like 6 seconds and is then normal. Does yours do that?

[Anonymous No.9911652]

>>9911508
Not as far as I can tell.

[Anonymous No.9911656]

>>9909175
That's a great find, congrats.
>>9911207
>still seething a week later over someone referring to a viral greentext as a meme
Mental illness.

[Anonymous No.9911780]

>>9911652
Well it is only on the warm up when turned on. Half of that time is the screen slowly turning on and the other half I can see the "video 1" input change from green to blue. Upon turning it off then on after the initial start up, the problem doesn't even occur.

[Anonymous No.9912564]

>>9911780
In that case I'll have to pry myself away from using it long enough to test your idea. I'll report back in two days.

[Anonymous No.9912593]

>>9911656
I will brag just a little bit to note someones local wanted ad for a CRT of this exact model. You snooze you lose!

[Anonymous No.9912857]

I've seen some people outputting to a CRT from their steam deck. Is the steam deck capable of outputting a 15khz or signal like the raspberry pi can do, or is it more likely their converter is downscaling the output?

[Anonymous No.9912873]

>>9912857
>capable of outputting a 15khz or signal like the raspberry pi can do
more like what linux can do with xrandr

[Anonymous No.9912874]

>>9912873
Not without an old GPU and the linux-15hz kernel AFAIK

[Anonymous No.9912950]

>>9879359
The Playchoice-10 is pretty much a repurposed Punch-Out!! cabinet. They weren't going to jump through hoops to get NTSC color. Easier to just use a different PPU.

[Anonymous No.9913467]

Ordered a new flyback for my TV, was a pain in the ass tracking down the part in Europe.
But eventually found some polish store selling it for 60 zloty.

[Anonymous No.9913525]

>>9913467
I hope you know how to install it

[Anonymous No.9913825]

>>9913525
There doesn't seem much to it, outside desoldering and soldering.

[Anonymous No.9913913]

>>9913825
And also discharging everything so you don’t get shocked by the deadliest part of the CRT

[Anonymous No.9913925]

>>9913913
Well no shit.

[Anonymous No.9914113]

>go to autozone
>they still have a JVC CRT as thier security camera
Neat and sad, as the tube looked really dark.

[Anonymous No.9914157]

>>9913913
You really thought you were helping when you wrote that huh

[Anonymous No.9914829]

"480i has no scanlines"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alA7b1dnkTg

[Anonymous No.9914831]

>>9913913
>turns off monitor
>pulls out power supply
>recaps the whole thing without discharging shit
Nothing personal, kid.

[Anonymous No.9914849]

>>9914829
It has double the amount of scan lines that alternate
What are you even arguing here?

[Anonymous No.9914854]

>>9914157
Safety is always relevant, shitpost as much as you want

[Anonymous No.9914876]

>>9914849
So why did people try to tell me it's wrong to use a CRT shader with PS2 games when it's literally visibly has scanlines? This is my setup with OSSC

[Anonymous No.9914884]

>>9914854
You got me there

[Anonymous No.9914896]

>>9914876
because the scanlines change position 30 times a second so you can't see them. Having a shader for interlaced is retarded

[Anonymous No.9914902]

>>9914876
>So why did people try to tell me it's wrong to use a CRT shader with PS2 games when it's literally visibly has scanlines?
Get a CRT TV with component inputs and you'll see why.

[Anonymous No.9914927]

>>9914896
I can see them though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alA7b1dnkTg

>>9914902
>videos don't count because... they just don't
>bro the scanlines will magically disappear if you see it in person!

[Anonymous No.9914931]

>>9914927
I dunno why a lot of anons think you cant see scanlines on consumer models, you dont even have to try very hard to see them on most

[Anonymous No.9915041]

>>9914931
and at the same time they're barely noticeable on some arcade monitors

[Anonymous No.9915051]

>>9914927
>>9914931
The space that the beam skips on one frame is where it draws on the next frame. That’s the definition of interlaced video. Unless you’re talking about the space in between the alternating lines, which couldn’t be resolved unless you had a bvm-level tvl. On most tv’s the alternating lines overlap so there are truly no empty spaces anywhere

[Anonymous No.9915056]

>>9915051
Thats not a bvm in the video though

[Anonymous No.9915062]

>>9915056
Cameras don’t have the image persistence that human vision does. Do you think a photo like this is proof that half the screen is dim? The phosphors of the screen are only actually lit for an incredibly short amount of time

[Anonymous No.9915146]

>>9914931
That anon is talking about interlacing
While the scan lines are faintly visible, they don’t look like 240p at all
You can see the diagonal line here of what interlaced looks like and the two alternating 240 fields

[Anonymous No.9915248]

>>9914927
A vast majority of the PS2's library is 480i, interlaced video flickers and has no visible scanline effect
You should stop posting since you don't know what you're on about

[Anonymous No.9915314]

>>9914927
that video's at 30fps anyway

[Anonymous No.9915361]

>>9915062
It's proof you didn't set your shutter speed correctly if anything

[Anonymous No.9915495]

>>9914927
You can see them because the video was shot at 1/60 shutter speed. That way you only see one of the interlaced fields per video frame. The video being 30 fps itself allows you to see it, it's synchronized with that one field. If it was 60 fps you wouldn't see them clearly unless you paused it. In fact the fields would flicker very fast, creating the imperfect illusion of a full frame on the CRT.
A scanline filter for interlaced video makes no sense. Go watch a real CRT in action yourself or just watch a properly shot video, MLIG or something.

>>9914902
Connection type has no effect on scanlines. Composhit only smears horizontally, the sync signal is unaffected.

[Anonymous No.9915551]

>>9914896
60 times a second akshually. 30 odd/even lines each.

[Anonymous No.9916063]

>>9915495
>Connection type has no effect on scanlines. Composhit only smears horizontally, the sync signal is unaffected.
It's a cleaner picture, so they're easier to notice.

[Anonymous No.9916135]

Wait, are people seriously trying to argue that you can't see 480i interlacing with your naked eye? That's fucking baloney, you absolutely can.

I've seen tech-fags make youtube videos trying to argue that nobody could ever possibly see interlacing on CRTs, and it's one of those things that might make sense to say on paper, but in actuality you can see it clear as day, especially on sets that are 27" or bigger. I remember being able to see them on my 19 inch mitsubishi back when I got my first DVD player. It's literally how I learned what "interlacing" was, because I went and asked Jeeves about it as soon as my mom was done using the phone.

[Anonymous No.9916185]

>>9916135
No, we are saying the blank lines are not a visible artifact on 480i
And they aren’t, you can see flicker and in some cases you can see combing but no blank lines

[Anonymous No.9916251]

>>9914931
>I dunno why a lot of anons think you cant see scanlines on consumer models
Because liking sharp scanlines became a meme, so contrarians had to take things in the opposite direction because humans are fucking tiresome. Zoomer revisionists are particularly fond of claiming you could never see scanlines, but if anything you could probably see them BETTER back in the '80s and '90s because your TV wasn't a worn-out piece of shit yet. Most people might not have noticed them, but that doesn't mean they weren't there.

[Anonymous No.9916253]

>>9916185
>>9916135
I watched Terminator 2 on DVD on my PVM and it looked like a flickery interlaced mess. The part with the frame of a swing set looked like it was skipping every other line.
If you want to see the interlacing very clearly all you have to do is jiggle an open hand in front of the screen and look between your fingers. For some reason this completely destroys the illusion. Vision is weird.

[Anonymous No.9916280]

>>9916253
I've never hooked a DVD player up to my PVM, I should try it. I have used an old Roku express with composite out to watch stuff from a Plex server, and it wasn't too bad looking, although i really prefer using a VCR.
>all you have to do is jiggle an open hand in front of the screen and look between your fingers
Last summer I busted out an oscillating fan before it was hot enough for AC, and while walking back to my battlestation, I saw my CRT through the blades of a fan, and goddamn it was like going back in time. It's such a unique effect that I saw frequently during summer as a kid, but haven't seen in like 20 years. It was like an Anton Ego moment.

[Anonymous No.9916353]

>>9916253
That’s a shame, i watch DVDs on my 28” consumer set in RGB on my Xbox 360
I get no flicker and it looks really clean

[Anonymous No.9916386]

Hey /crt/, I am looking to get a 9" CRT to have while I am vacationing. I already have a PVM and an amazing consumer set, so this is mostly out of a desire to have a low TVL set even if its a bad idea. My camper TV is currently stuck in storage hell and I am not able to get it anytime soon.

So I have some questions:
> Are the DVD/VCR combo tubes of a good build quailty? I know the VCR ones tend to have the VCR component break, but I wonder if everything else about the build quality is at least solid.
>Not looking for something better than composite, but is S-Video even remotely common on tubes this size?
>what are good brands?

[Anonymous No.9916391]

>>9916280
Yeah that's an extreme version of the effect I was describing. Funny thing is I've been watching VHS on my PVM lately and haven't noticed any interlacing. Could just be because T2 has a lot of movement and camera pans. I watch Simpsons DVDs on my PVM all the time and they look glorious. Even the occasional smudges on the animation cels are clear and crisp.
>>9916353
>DVDs on X360
I always forget that's even possible. I've never tried it despite owning a 360. Never seen anyone else do it, either.
I do occasionally use a PS3 for widescreen DVDs on an LCD. It looks really good, to the point where I can hardly tell the difference from blu-ray. It was actually the main reason I bought a PS3 desu.

[Anonymous No.9916469]

>>9916386
look for a Japanese brand, even if it's made in Thailand
and yes, the DVD/VCR will always fail with enough usage

[Anonymous No.9916481]

>>9916391
Also it is better to use PAL DVD's over NTSC ones in my opinion

[Anonymous No.9917048]

>>9916481
I don't want PAL anything. I had some cheap SCART cables and I cut off the SCART end and soldered on BNC.
If wouldn't accept PAL shit for free.

[Anonymous No.9917482]

>>9916391
Ah yes I'll enjoy some Looney Tunes Golder Collection as well, the remasters look fantastic on a CRT.

[Anonymous No.9917610]

>>9917048
Eh, for movies and video you get higher resolution at 24fps

[Anonymous No.9918032]

Got a BVM 20D1FU that's got a super bright signal and making a whining noise when I power it on. The picture kinda wobbles back and forth also. Could this be the deflection board or the flyback?

Anyone know what flyback these use?

[Anonymous No.9918098]

>>9917610
maybe I'm wrong but I thought videos were put through a telecine machine that converts them to 50/60 fps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine
it gets really technical and I don't know which is better but I don't want any media intended for another country. I even refuse to play Japanese games.

[Anonymous No.9918112]

Remember that 480i at 30fps and 480i at 60fps are both things and you'll see more interlacing artifacts on the latter.

[Anonymous No.9918126]

>>9918112
really?
I see more combing on the former

[Anonymous No.9918217]

>>9879161
Cute