Let's settle this once and for all

[Anonymous No.9838979]

Who touched Sasha?

[Anonymous No.9838987]

>>9838979
Engie probably.

[Anonymous No.9839062]

me :)

[Anonymous No.9839073]

>>9838979
>Natascha is not retro because she is from a 2008 update

[Anonymous No.9839097]

>>9838987
Now hold your horses, bucko.

[Anonymous No.9839142]

>>9839073
It's a 2007 game, so all good

[Anonymous No.9839250]

>2007
that would make the ps3 retro

[Anonymous No.9839268]

>>9839250
>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007

it would be if there was ever another rule change, so hopefully it will stay that way forever

[Anonymous No.9839275]

>>9839250
I'm not gonna say it, but I'm thinking it

[Anonymous No.9840269]

>>9838987
Proof?

[Anonymous No.9840825]

>>9839268
They really should add that the game should also no longer be updated.

[Anonymous No.9840828]

>>9840825
>UnReal World becomes not retro despite being a 1992 game

[Anonymous No.9842263]

>>9840825
rip in peace /vr/ct general

[Anonymous No.9842550]

>>9839250
Why don't you retards read the rules? Legitimate question. How many of you fucks post on here and have no idea what's retro or not?

[Anonymous No.9842610]

>>9842550
You tell me

[Anonymous No.9843128]

bump

[Anonymous No.9843143]

>>9840825
>TF2
>still updated
If you bother them enough they might fix a bug or make some fan-made stuff official. That's about it, though.

[Anonymous No.9843331]

>>9843143
They still didn't deliver the Heavy Update even after 10 years…

[Anonymous No.9843389]

Pretty awful how valve abandoned development or even a proper maintenance team. It’s just one person pushing localization files vs. a horde of angry virgin bot owners mad that they were pub stomped by a spy once.
Could’ve been going on for another 50 years, everyone loves TF2.

[Anonymous No.9844878]

>>9840825
> Quake is no longer retro

Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.9845954]

>>9838979
Sasha was touched by known scammers.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

[Anonymous No.9846023]

>>9844878
Relax Anon, everyone knows Quake "Enhanced" =/= Quake.

[Anonymous No.9846024]

>>9838979
I wish Sasha touched me
And who cares if its "properly retro" its one of the poster boys for the good ole days of pc multiplayer before the zoomer apocalypse

[Anonymous No.9846146]

>>9839073
Sasha is the stock minigun.

[Anonymous No.9846314]

>>9843389
It breaks my heart. It's only three years younger than World of Warcraft and has already practically been abandoned by its publisher.

[Anonymous No.9846350]

I pretty much only play TF2 Classic now since it's the closest to an "old school" TF2 experience while having new shit that feels like it still fits. Too bad a lot of the people who play it are complete degenerates.

[Anonymous No.9846362]

is the 360 orangebox releaase the only way to play real tf2 anymore
why did valve downgrade the graphics on pc

[Anonymous No.9846363]

you guys realize you can still play TF2
like, right now

I can't believe /vr/ of all places is bemoaning that a game isn't still getting updated

[Anonymous No.9846365]

>>9846363
Nah not really mate

[Anonymous No.9846517]

>>9846350
Try PreFortress, shit's kino

[Anonymous No.9846643]

>>9838979
Weighs kilograms
Fires cartridges
Costs dollars
https://youtu.be/upf_xYgkBIQ

[Anonymous No.9847131]

>>9846363
TF2 circa 2023 is not TF2 any more than WoW Dragonforce whatever its called is Classic WoW

[Anonymous No.9847156]

>>9838979
Not retro fuck off

[Anonymous No.9847187]

>>9846314
What was its last major update?

[Anonymous No.9847194]

>>9847156
read the sticky newfren

[Anonymous No.9847393]

>>9838979
I assume it's one of the documentary team members, as RED mercenaries wouldn't be so stupid (which is saying something) and the perimeter alarm isn't going off.

[Anonymous No.9847473]

>>9846350
>broke the 2007 servers to try and make them more appealing to the tryhard pyro mains that dominate the community
>now the servers are still dead but now barely even classic anymore

[Anonymous No.9847789]

>>9846517
Yeah I went on there and there were "friendlies" on the only server with people. Not impressed.

[Anonymous No.9849267]

>>9847789
so kill them retard

[Anonymous No.9849275]

For me it's Team Fortress Classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1C7nqOrGK0

[Anonymous No.9849737]

TF2 still lives on within a few long-running community servers, essentially gated communities

[Anonymous No.9850437]

>>9846363
You're sort off right.
The only untouched version of TF2 is the Orange box one on the 360.

[Anonymous No.9850484]

>>9849737
Just go on Uncletopia

[Anonymous No.9850582]

>>9847187
Jungle Inferno back in 2017
it hurts

[Anonymous No.9850587]

>>9847393
>RED mercenaries wouldn't be so stupid
For the most part, yes, but I could easily see Scout doing it anyway just to be a prick.

[Anonymous No.9850621]

>>9850582
How so?

[Anonymous No.9851032]

>>9849267
I did, there was nothing else to do.

[Anonymous No.9851480]

>>9851032
sadge

[Anonymous No.9851551]

https://steamcharts.com/app/440#All
Unless I'm misreading this, TF2's player count levels is still quite high compared to 10 years ago. yet Valve has given up - no major update, bots are still there, there was a Trojan affecting sprays so they removed them and they are still removed.

[Anonymous No.9851582]

>2023
>Righteous Bison still fucked
It's always been a slightly shitty weapon, but at least it was fun and had SOME use to it back when it was first added. Now it's really shit. At least the Cow Mangler is pretty good, I stubbornly used that thing even during the period when it was nerfed into the dirt.
I have no idea what the fuck can be done with the Pomson to make it better but holy shit that thing is trash too.

[Anonymous No.9851612]

I refuse to admit that TF2 is retro. No fucking way.

>>9851582
I don't even know why they nerfed it in the first place. It was always mediocre and gimmicky compared to shotgun and funboats.

[Anonymous No.9851749]

>>9851551
Then how come people say TF2 is dead?

[Anonymous No.9851750]

>>9851612
I don't get a lot of the "balance" changes they did. Shit like the Sandman and Caber make sense because, no matter how fun you think they were to use, nobody fucking likes being stunned for ten seconds or suicide meleed every time. But now you have all of these weapons that aren't viable competitively or seriously, and they're also no longer fun to just fuck around with.

Thankfully they haven't fucked up my Beggar's Bazooka.

[Anonymous No.9851754]

>>9851750
I thought the caber was fun but now it's nerfed to the point of uselessness. Though it's one of those weapons were no one is going to be happy about.
The other weird choice was giving the shortstop an altfire shove attack for some reason.

[Anonymous No.9851804]

>>9850484
that's awful

[Anonymous No.9852431]

>everyone always talks about how old TF2 was way better
>not a single server tries to emulate old TF2
>all of the """throwback""" mods are filled with OC garbage and modern balance changes
>the few mods that actually try to be classic TF2 are genuine ghost towns
Maybe old TF2 wasn't that great if clearly nobody wants to play it

[Anonymous No.9853146]

>>9851750
>>9851754
NEVER, for the rest of my days, will I forgive Valve for what they did to the Panic Attack. They took a genuinely fun & wacky weapon in a fun & wacky FPS, & at the behest of insufferable, braindead, limp-dicked, dildo-riding, low IQ, ESports faggots who think they speak for the entire community when they're really only like 5% AT BEST, & what did they do with it? They stripped it of its pre-loading gimmick entirely, thus just making it A TOTALLY WORSE VERSION OF THE STOCK SHOTGUN, because the ESports faggots complained that the original "wasn't consistent enough" WHEN NONE OF THEM EVER EVEN FUCKING BOTHERED TO USE IT ANYWAY

[Anonymous No.9853350]

>>9853146
I actually sympathize with you, but your tirade about dumb Esports nerds reminded me of this.

[Anonymous No.9853381]

>>9849737
>gated communities
I feel like a lot of the internet is turning into gated communities nowadays.

[Anonymous No.9853686]

>>9838979

Either scout, soldier, or engie.

Scout likes to pester heavy and probably wanted to feel cool holding Sasha.

Soldier might have just been curious.

Engie would have been purely curious about sashas specs.

None of the others would have an interest in miniguns.

[Anonymous No.9854000]

>>9839073
we're allowed to discuss romhacks and apparently SIGIL which was 2019 released

[Anonymous No.9854086]

>>9853686
Medic literally has an injection minigun

[Anonymous No.9854357]

>>9846350
Old school means degenerates are as free to roam as xXxn1gg3rkill3rxXx is

[Anonymous No.9854376]

*overheals everyone in the thread*

[Anonymous No.9854396]

>>9854376
Thanks Doc

[Anonymous No.9854453]

where are the jannies when you need them?

[Anonymous No.9854460]

>>9846363
the official servers are fucked by bots
>omg just play community servers why are you complaining
because I don't want to play with furries.

[Anonymous No.9854482]

>>9854460
>i don't want to play with the furries on community servers, i want to play with the mexican children in casual

[Anonymous No.9854859]

Bump

[Anonymous No.9854872]

WHORE TOUCHED MY GUN

[Anonymous No.9855151]

>>9854872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjMB4yTMs8

[Anonymous No.9855536]

>>9854453
It IS retro, retard

[Anonymous No.9856194]

>>9855536
if a game is played by kids on a daily basis then it's not retro
in fact, no mupltiplayer game that is well and alive is retro

[Anonymous No.9856258]

>>9838979
probably scout, trying to see if he could lift it and pretend to be heavy weapons guy by talking in american russian accent and making minigun sounds with his mouth while shooting at imaginary enemies

[Anonymous No.9856260]

>>9856258
>look at me babushka, i am tough guy *brrrrrrrt*

[Anonymous No.9856820]

This is XB360/PS3 game.

[Anonymous No.9856959]

>>9838979
It was MEH

[Anonymous No.9857240]

>>9854376
Fuck off and help the heavy push the point. Fucking medic mains and target priority

[Anonymous No.9857241]

>>9856820
All I am reading here is the names of 2 retro consoles

[Anonymous No.9857285]

>>9856194
skill issue

[Anonymous No.9857287]

Its so weird that this game is technically retro. This and Oblivion still throw me off when I see them posted here.

[Anonymous No.9857457]

tf2 lost
trans won

[Anonymous No.9857497]

>>9856820
and PC you stupid fuckwit

>>9857287
maybe you should stop using that arbitrary word then

[Anonymous No.9857531]

>>9846350
Same honestly. I still play normal TF2 from time to time but if there's servers on the TF2C or PF2 are full of people then I'm definitely gonna hop in. You kind of have to put up with the mental illness though. You come across furries, trannies, and other kinds of crap but the freedom to dominate and make fun of them without being banned makes it worth it. PF2 is probably my favorite due to it being so radically different from TF2 while still keeping the same feeling and borrowing a lot from TFC.
>>9847789
I've yet to see any friendlies in either mod.

[Anonymous No.9857561]

>>9851750
Old sandman was over-hated by comp nerds. The stun was reliant on distance traveled so the scout would have to hit you from pretty far away to get a full stun which was well deserved imo. If he hit you up close you weren't even stunned for a fraction of a sec. Now was it bullshit that you could stun uber charges? Hell yes. Was the sandman-guillotine combo a little bullshit? Perhaps. But that didn't mean that Valve had to completely nerf one of Scout's most iconic weapons into being absolutely useless.

[Anonymous No.9858024]

>>9850582
What was the last weapon added?

[Anonymous No.9858924]

>>9846643
How stop new behind?
Answer?
Gun.
Don't work?
More gun.

[Anonymous No.9859643]

bump for >>9858024

[Anonymous No.9859867]

>>9859643
They were released as a batch.

Thermal thruster, Gas Passer, Hot Hand, and Dragon's Fury for Pyro

Secind Banana for Heavy.

[Anonymous No.9860049]

>>9846350
>>9847473
i pretty much gave up on TF2 when playing the game as a multiplayer shooter like it was intended was considered "tryhard behavior" by people in the community but i still wanted to give TF2 classic a chance.

if i don't want to play with degenerates does the game have bot play?

[Anonymous No.9860131]

>>9857561
my problem with the sandman was how you couldn't double jump with it on your kit which i felt crippled some of the scout's maneuverability.

that said it is sad that the only good scout weapon from that update got nerfed. bonk felt too situational and it always felt like it took more than two shots to kill anyone with the force a nature.

>>9852431
the problem is that people want to play a "vanilla" TF2 but still have all the content (i.e. weapons, maps, modes and especially cosmetics) from the newer updates especially when they get bored of the vanilla content.

every multiplayer game with a community nostalgic for the "old days" (halo 2, WoW, overwatch, etc.) is like that.

[Anonymous No.9860237]

Valve board, zoomies
This website always preferred valve shit over id, bungie or 3d realms shit.
Get over it.

[Anonymous No.9860745]

>>9860237
Tell me about Artifact, Underlords and Alien Swarm then

[Anonymous No.9860897]

>>9860131
I can still find active servers for Halo 2 and WoW that are truly the classic versions though unlike TF2 where the only options you have are all ghosttowns

[Anonymous No.9860907]

>>9860237
Team Fortress 2 and Half Life 1 are the only good Valve games

[Anonymous No.9860958]

>>9860897
>halo 2
maybe all the halo 2 players are on the vista version or are sitting in custom games then because it feels like nobody plays halo 2 on the MCC matchmaking but they do seem to play halo 3 the most.

>WoW
i'm actually kinda curious to what the general player pop for WoW is on private servers vs retail & classic (and to some extent what it would take to set a private server up). i know they can't be too big without blizzard shutting them down.

as for WoW classic i don't believe for a second that they're going to stop at wrath. there is nothing that can convince me otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9862143]

why does comp decide the game? and why does 'competitive tf2' just like four guys and they dont even use different classes? this reflects the game even less than comp melee does

[Anonymous No.9862145]

>>9846517
>>9846350
>requires steam
Fucking bootlickers

[Anonymous No.9862149]

>>9850437
no.
In the real world, TF2 on 360 have worse graphics, the number of players is very limited, can be only played with a controler, and most importantly, nobody at all play it. And since it's a multiplayer game, YES, that's a big problem.
>but
>those are bots. They only play engies.

[Anonymous No.9862154]

>>9860131
>every multiplayer game with a community nostalgic for the "old days" (halo 2, WoW, overwatch, etc.) is like that.
holy fuck this.
It remind me what TotalBiscuit said about ArenaFPS. It's not that you miss them, it's that you don't fucking play them.

[Anonymous No.9862156]

For anyone who wants to play old tf2 without playing the orange box version then search for TF2 1.0.1.8 and you will find a github download link. Its not exactly 2007 TF2 since its a 2008 build with cp_badlands and no payload or koth but its close enough. Sadly there is only one server run by that diaperfag Aar.

[Anonymous No.9862174]

>>9862154
but i do want to play them. why are you accusing me specifically?

[Anonymous No.9862183]

>>9862174
You snobbed Quake Chamions, UT4, and all the others.

[Anonymous No.9862196]

>>9862183
buddy im just trying to play tf2 without having to go to steam

[Anonymous No.9862203]

>>9862196
>im just trying to play tf2 without having to go to steam

[Anonymous No.9862206]

>>9862203
They ruined the game why I gotta pay attention to them? I just wanna get on that classic ish

[Anonymous No.9862234]

>>9838979
>xbox 360 is now "retro"
lol
this board is truly shit

[Anonymous No.9862254]

Meet your match was the worst idea ever

[Anonymous No.9862408]

>>9862254
Why?

[Anonymous No.9862708]

>>9860131
>my problem with the sandman was how you couldn't double jump with it on your kit which i felt crippled some of the scout's maneuverability.
I think they removed that attribute before the end of 2009 and replaced it with the -15 max health penalty. The weapon was really controversial at launch but Valve ironed out most of the bullshit that year until compfags whined for no reason in 2017 and got it nerfed into complete uselessness.

[Anonymous No.9862830]

>>9862183
despite people claiming that every shooter from 7th gen onward tried to copy halo or CoD there have been several arena FPSes that have come & gone over the past 23 years (including a few unreal & quake sequels) but all of them were scoffed at by the very market clamoring for them to come back.

the sad part is that despite all the romanticism arena shooters are pretty easy to pick up & play. arguably more so than your typical modern multiplayer shooter. but at the end of the day those people just want a time machine to go back to a time when they can pubstomp casuals without a fear of getting stomped themselves.

[Anonymous No.9862860]

>>9862830
meant for >>9862174

[Anonymous No.9862869]

>>9838979
I touched Sasha and she loved it.

[Anonymous No.9862898]

>>9857240
Quite the opposite. Medictroons are known for pocketing the nolife tryhard topscoring and ignoring everyone else.

[Anonymous No.9864329]

>>9862869
Tasted her cherry chapstick?

[Anonymous No.9864336]

>>9838979
What do you guys think about the mod TF2 Classic? Is it good?

[Anonymous No.9864349]

>>9864336
Play FF instead

[Anonymous No.9864392]

>>9864349
lolno shit's dead
>>9864336
Quality and polished but ultimately boring. 2007 purists hate it for arbitrary reasons despite being able to turn off all the new stuff and only need to add one mod to make it look like the OG TF2. I just don't care too much for it because compared to Pre Fortress and Open Fortress it doesn't do anything interesting apart from 4-team at this point. Every other mod has a Civilian and Hunted, including TF2 with vscript Hunted. TF2C is just TF2 again. It's fine and still fun, just kind of underwhelming. TF2C was a pioneer in TF2 sourcemodding, I like PF2 more at this point desu, shakes up the gameplay enough to keep it fresh

[Anonymous No.9865368]

>>9864392
In this case, QWTF is the best alternative

[Anonymous No.9865460]

>>9864392
I've seen a lot of people mention Prefortress. What does it do better than TF2C exactly? I've played a lot of TF2C but haven't touched any of the other mods

[Anonymous No.9865678]

>>9865460
Its like a hybrid between TF2 and TFC, loosely based off the beta footage we saw in 2006. There's some differences in the classes, like scout has a nail gun instead of a pistol, medic has an SMG, and Pyro can't airblast but alt-fire launches incendiary rockets, and a few other things. But the biggest difference is all classes have grenades giving them all kinds of new mobility and offensive options. Oh, and you have armor to manage on top of your health. The new maps are actually pretty fun too. It's different enough from TF2 to make it feel like a whole new experience, but it still feels like TF2.

[Anonymous No.9865690]

>>9864336
I enjoy it more than normal TF2 simply because it runs 1000% better, there's no matchmaking so rounds aren't steam rolls 90% of the time, and it all runs on community servers. I can tolerate normal TF2 for maybe an hour or two at a time, while I can get hooked on TF2C for an entire day. Really feels like you're living through TF2's golden era again when playing instead of the buggy, bot-ridden, matchmaking shitfest that the game has become.

[Anonymous No.9865712]

>>9865368
Based, sadly it's dead too. All that's left that doesn't require coordination from a discord is CustomTF For the People. FortressOne kicked the bucket for better or worse, I hate the celshading and darkplaces textures in it

[Anonymous No.9865764]

>>9862145
You could try TF2Vintage if you're that anal abour retarded shit like that

[Anonymous No.9865893]

>>9851551
>Unless I'm misreading this
apparently a huge amount of that is bots

[Anonymous No.9865924]

>>9850621
They broke a ton of shit in the game and then just left it.

[Anonymous No.9865925]

>>9865893
nta but note that bots includes trade bots which idle in tf2 to sort their inventories following a trade
source: i have one of my own

[Anonymous No.9865930]

>>9865925
I thought the TF2 economy was dead?

[Anonymous No.9865997]

>>9865924
Such as?

[Anonymous No.9866004]

>>9865930
Not really, far from it. Backpack.tf is very much alive

[Anonymous No.9866025]

>>9865997
I thought there was more shit they changed in that patch in particular but I guess some of it was done in smaller patches later. Bascally they rebalanced a ton of the items in the game which made weapons like the bison and ambassador downgrades, while stuff like pbpp and snipers darwins got huge buffs. There's a reason snipers curb stomp the entire game now.

[Anonymous No.9866076]

>>9864392
>TF2C is just TF2 again
And it's exactly what I wanted. Just TF2 again before tons of cosmetics, chaotic weapons and 24/7 Skial 2fort Orange 10x servers. It's like TF2 when it was fun.

[Anonymous No.9866112]

>>9866076
>Orange 10x servers
Orange maps were great before every single server became low grave 100% crits. And now these days they're just 10x shit.

[Anonymous No.9866216]

>>9866076
That's fine, nothing wrong with that. Me personally I just want something that shakes it up a little bit since I've been playing TF2 for 13 years now. There is definitely something to be said for barebones TF2 coupled with TF2C's level of polish. It's certainly good.

[Anonymous No.9866220]

>>9866112
What's the name of that particular Orange? I'll add it to my servers

[Anonymous No.9866224]

>>9864336
I really like it; I switched from the vanilla game over to TF2C and I'm not looking back for now. Fight or Flight's been a fun release.

[Anonymous No.9866228]

>>9865678
So they more or less merged the flamethrower and flare gun into one weapon? Interesting approach.

[Anonymous No.9866270]

>>9866220
cp_orange_cross

One I really want to play again is orange_citadel but I could only dig up a very very early version of it that is just a flat open field.

[Anonymous No.9866443]

>>9866270
https://maps.mevl2.duckdns.org/
multiple versions of it here

[Anonymous No.9866501]

>>9866443
Thanks for sharing. I had all those versions except heights which was really weird. There was a version of citadel that had a ton of catwalks, tons of bridges between the buildings and a ton of verticality to it. It was really popular back in the day but has since disappeared. I saw 1 version on tf2maps.net but the download link was dead and another version, cp_orange_citadel_tbr, on some clans website but that clan's site is gone. I can't even find the tf2maps forum post anymore.

[Anonymous No.9866505]

>>9866501
Screenshot says it's the TBR version.

[Anonymous No.9866635]

>>9864336
spy is not garbage but he also can't teleport behind enemies using grenades

[Anonymous No.9868505]

bump

[Anonymous No.9868636]

>>9851612
>I refuse to admit that TF2 is retro. No fucking way.

honestly yeah anything that was released in HD being considered retro is just weird. like technically Portal is also retro by board rules, as is Oblivion. But then Super Mario Galaxy and Rock Band aren't despite being released in the same year, just because they came out for 6th gen consoles instead of for PC.

[Anonymous No.9868845]

>>9868636
Steam itself is also retro…

[Anonymous No.9869065]

>>9868636
well, you retards jumped up and down and kicked and screamed and bitched until they implemented a rule to make newer and newer games "retro" every year, and now your shit board is slowly turning into /v/ 2. pretty soon we're going to need to split into /vrr/ - videogames (REALLY retro) and /vr/ - videogames ("""""retro"""""").

[Anonymous No.9869069]

>>9869065
>you retards jumped up and down and kicked and screamed and bitched until they implemented a rule to make newer and newer games "retro" every year
Nobody wanted that rule change. The jannies just arbitrarily decided to update it. Everyone was pissed and we even got raided by /v/ to rub the salt in. Most people just flat out left.

[Anonymous No.9869092]

Why do you fags defend half life, cs, goldeneye, halo, fear, tf2 and serious sam when rpgcodex rightfully hates them?
i thought this was the retro board.

[Anonymous No.9869095]

>>9869069
>Nobody wanted that rule change
there were threads about it on the fuckin daily before it was implemented and eventually jannies got tired of having to delete it.

[Anonymous No.9869097]

>>9869095
No there fucking weren't you revisionist faggot.

[Anonymous No.9869098]

>>9869092
oh i know this one i know this one!
it's because everybody who posts on codex is a subhuman and they should all fucking kill themselves!

[Anonymous No.9869106]

>>9869098
filtered by oldfag forums and internet

[Anonymous No.9869110]

>>9869097
yes, there were. the argument was always "it's basically just a portable snes! there's so many snes ports! it's the last truly retro console! muh pixels! muh resolution!"
just because you forgot doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[Anonymous No.9869112]

>>9869106
Why does the codex cause so much seething? There use to be an anon on here who would chronically post in every thread about how JRPGs aren't based on Wizardry and the codex made that up about them.

[Anonymous No.9869113]

>>9869110
>just because you forgot doesn't mean it didn't happen.
It not being in any of the various archive sites also doesn't mean it didn't happen. It was real in my mind!

[Anonymous No.9869114]

>>9869112
they have good taste unlike this place

[Anonymous No.9869124]

>>9864336
It's honestly more fun than regular TF2 at this point, to me at least. It also legitimately looks and runs a little better than the actual game. There's been at least one full server every time I've played it.

[Anonymous No.9869126]

>>9869113
of all the things to larp as i have no idea why you chose "oldfag on /vr/" but i'll let you keep imagining things i guess

[Anonymous No.9869130]

>>9869126
>Can't dig up an archive
I was at least expecting you to find like 2-3 one-off posts and claim that was the whole board, but you aren't even going to try because you know you're full of shit lmao.

[Anonymous No.9869137]

>>9869098
I've seen this exact post you're replying to in another thread, so I'm guessing the rpgcodex guy is a schizo and should be ignored.

[Anonymous No.9869151]

>>9869137
oh god he's doing it on /v/ too what the fuck

[Anonymous No.9869180]

>>9869151
>/v/
Go back.

[Anonymous No.9869184]

>>9843389
I'd like to think the item economy's fucked all that up. Valve's probably too scared to throw the whole thing at a third-party because mismanagement in the wrong place could become a colossal legal disaster. They could just pass off the gameplay portion and keep handling cosmetic updates themselves, but that probably still takes more organized effort than Valve wants to give.

Shit sucks, more at 11.

[Anonymous No.9869187]

Did they ever drop that holiday-sized update?

[Anonymous No.9869195]

>>9851750
>>9851754
>suicide melee'd by demo (caber) bad
>suicide melee'd by soldier (market gardener) good
I don't get you retards, the weapon was fine as is but the retarded TF2 community had to shit their pants on nothing, yet ironically they never complain about the sudden 195 damage people recieve from trolldiers (or rocket jumping soldiers in general). Fucking hypocrites the lot of you.
Also the guillotine shouldn't have been nerfed when the sandman was, the combo could've still worked without the stun judging by how it still worked with the natasha's slowdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_PdGgzXCgg

[Anonymous No.9869216]

>>9869195
I don't even think it was the TF2 community just Valve doing shit in their own bubble. Nobody complained about the ambassador and then it got massacred. Then the community retroactively defended Valve for it. The logic makes no fucking sense because "Spy shouldn't have long ranged ability" yet sniper can quickscope at point blank range and 1-shot most of the classes, and also has a jarate/machete combo that 1-shots everyone. There's basically nothing you can do about snipers that park their ass on a sentry besides pick another sniper. Even suppressing them with flares doesn't work because they'll just slap on darwins.

[Anonymous No.9869235]

>>9869216
I was putting the blame on the community because in earlier TF2 threads i thought it was the compfags that caused this but then had anons say "No, it is the community's fault", and now i hear that it's just Valve's. At this point i don't even know who's to blame for all the garbage TF2 got since 2015.

[Anonymous No.9869242]

>>9869235
I put the blame on Valve. I don't even think they listened to the comp autists when they tried doing their rebalancing. They just did their own fucking thing and hoped it'd be the next CS:GO, then when it failed they dropped it.

[Anonymous No.9869259]

>>9869242
I also don't get what's with Valve and not reverting changes. When they fuck up something, they double down and make something shittier (i still won't forget what they did to the poor Loch n Load, first with the needless clip buff and then with the horrible "damage bonus on buildings" nerf), only time they actually reverted something was with the Claidheamh Mòr and Bison (even if not fully for the latter).

[Anonymous No.9869404]

>>9869187
They said it was coming in Summer, I believe?
Honestly I'm not expecting anything good, but maybe they'll surprise me.

[Anonymous No.9869418]

>>9869092
what the fuck is rpgcodex, some youtuber?

[Anonymous No.9869423]

>>9850582
Wait are you telling me the last time they did something to add to the game was on its 10-year anniversary?

[Anonymous No.9869434]

>>9869195
Check my post again. I specifically said "I thought the caber was fun" I never had any problems with it.

[Anonymous No.9869438]

>>9869404
At this point, all I want is the last comic so I can get some dang closure.

[Anonymous No.9869484]

>>9869438
Same here. I honestly wouldn't be nearly as bummed about the state of the game if I hadn't been left hanging with the comic for so long.

[Anonymous No.9869497]

>>9869438
You're never getting that comic.

[Anonymous No.9869505]

>>9864336
Fun enough if you mute voice chat. I don't really understand the logic behind making a "classic" version of something, and still adding in new fan made weapons. The lack of cosmetics is nice though

[Anonymous No.9869565]

>>9869497
I know that. I'm just saying.

[Anonymous No.9870321]

>>9869505
I think you can disable that stuff and get a vanilla classic experience. Haven't played it.

[Anonymous No.9871428]

>>9869505
mostly because people still want the new stuff but in a vanilla/classic environment as i said here >>9860131 there isn't enough vanilla content in launch TF2 to keep people interested.

it's why blizzard will not stop at wrath for WoW classic and it's why the MCC still gets new content updates.

[Anonymous No.9871491]

>>9870321
You can. I've tried hosting servers for 2007-style gameplay (6 launch maps, no airblast, old pistol, no haul, no gun mettle rebalances, stock only etc), but nobody wants to play it. Even the most die-hard contrarians of the "launch TF2 was best" crowd refuse because then they'll move the goalpost and say "It's not classic ENOUGH" and will cross their arms and pout before actually connecting to it, and continue bitching about there being no way to relive that era when it's presented to them on a golden platter. Pic fucking related.
In addition, people not of that crowd don't care and are often confused when connecting to a 2007 style server, asking "where are my weapons? why cant i move dispenser :d this sux lets switch servers" etc.
The REASON TF2C adds new stuff is because TF2 players are largely shortsighted children with dogshit attention spans who only care about new shiny weapons and gamemodes presented through 3day blogposts full of sfm render eyecandy and "hype" which is why TF2C adopted that formula while still offering (on deaf ears) the classic settings for those who want it.
On a similar note I notice to this day people claim Civilian and 4-team are OC donut steel additions which are blatantly wrong since both were present and frequent in QWTF and TFC, meaning anyone who says such clearly doesn't know their history with the TF series.

[Anonymous No.9871507]

>>9856959

[Anonymous No.9871556]

>>9871491
You can only play the same game so many times before it gets boring. Old TF2 had a ton of custom map variety and was still new to everyone. It's no wonder all the tryhards in Uncletopia are troons. They're basically speedrunners for TF2. I'd go fucking insane too if I played nothing but the same game and the same maps over and over again for years on end.

[Anonymous No.9871636]

>>9871428
>it's why the MCC still gets new content updates
They haven't added anything gameplay altering to the classic halo games. I think 3 got a new map or two a while ago, that's about it

[Anonymous No.9871996]

>>9871491
I don't think even the most hardcore purists genuinely want to play only the 6 garbage maps from launch and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.9872013]

>>9871491
The era people usually mean by "classic" is before Valve started adding community items in 2010, not launch

[Anonymous No.9872020]

>>9872013
Nobody has a definitive take on what "classic" TF2 is and its why the community is too split to actually make it happen

[Anonymous No.9872025]

>>9872020
I'd cut it off at the Engineer update, personally. Then every class has options, but without getting into the mess of the Mannconomy items and beyond.

[Anonymous No.9872251]

Bump for answering >>9869423

[Anonymous No.9872547]

>>9872251

[Anonymous No.9872750]

>>9871636
>I think 3 got a new map or two a while ago, that's about it

3 got some maps from halo online and new cosmetics along with new skulls while ODST got hostile elites & flood as options for firefight also you can use 3 weapons in ODST's firefight and ODST weapons in 3's multiplayer now. 3 is the one that gets the most attention out of the collection but every other game has gotten new cosmetics & skulls while everything has mod support now and there was supposedly talk of adding bot play after it got leaked that the dev build of the MCC uses them for testing which wouldn't be too hard since they added it into infinite. also i think there's still some maps from halo online missing.

[Anonymous No.9872779]

>>9872025
my cutoff would be before the class specific updates but keep the new maps, modes and seasonal events they've added over the years. that way you can have a vanilla experience with no cosmetics while still having more than enough content to play around with. i'd also add VIP & TDM to the mix too.

[Anonymous No.9873831]

>>9872547

[Anonymous No.9873893]

>>9869423
They kind of ignored the 10 year Anniversary. Jungle Inferno, the last major TF2 update, was just the long awated Pyro update that the players voted for when MyM launched in 2016. It came out around the time of the 10 year anniversary but it wasn't in celebration of it. We also got a somewhat major update in March 2018 that "fixed" the problems with matchmaking that was supposed to ship with Jungle Inferno but couldn't because of time constraints or something. Matchmaking still sucks though lol

[Anonymous No.9873947]

>>9872779
I don't know why you'd even fucking WANT a "vanilla experience". Most of the early weapon additions were outright balance fixes for shitty classes.
>Medic has such shitty survival that nobody wants to play as him, so the Blutsauger was added
>Pyro was an outright joke class, so Airblast, Axtinguisher, and Flare Gun were added to make him less useless
>Heavy is COMPLETELY at the mercy of Medics and Dispensors to accomplish anything, so Sandvich is added to let him recover health between fights if they're dead
There's a reason those three had weapons that were basically straight upgrades, while later updates focused more on gimmicky sidegrades.

[Anonymous No.9874461]

bump

[Anonymous No.9875094]

>>9871491
>>9873947
i'm honestly fine with new content but you probably shouldn't be advertising yourself as being "classic" when you're adding in stuff not included in vanilla that affects gameplay like weapons & gear.

keeping the maps, events & modes are a reasonable compromise given how light on content TF2 was at launch.

>On a similar note I notice to this day people claim Civilian and 4-team are OC donut steel additions which are blatantly wrong since both were present and frequent in QWTF and TFC, meaning anyone who says such clearly doesn't know their history with the TF series.
i know VIP from my TFC & CS days but i don't remember 4 teams. was that more of a quake thing?

[Anonymous No.9875156]

>>9875094
QWTF and TFC had 4 teams, which could be enabled at the will of a mapper, or interchanged with others if I recall. Hunted and the HLDM and DMC maps (which are fully functional in TFC) are the only Valve maps to utilize them (Hunted uses Yellow for Assassins), but many maps use them for other things, usually team deathmatch, but four-team CTF is common as well.

[Anonymous No.9875338]

Does anyone know why Valve loves the Sniper so fucking much? Every item that marginally impacts sniper gets nerfed. They even nerfed the caber into the ground to the point it's barely functional, because you could shield trimp or stickyjumper to 1-shot snipers.

[Anonymous No.9876037]

>>9875156
I thought Yellow and Green teams got leaked recently by TF2 dataminers?

[Anonymous No.9877570]

bump

[Anonymous No.9877939]

>>9876037
Is this true?