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Alright /vr/, which are the best version of Resident Evil 2?

>> No.9822413

>>9822404
gba

>> No.9822425

>>9822404
GC for the sake of being able to skip cutscenes, for speedruns sake. Otherwise DC through VGA. PC with Rebirth patch is arguably the best one feature-wise.

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>> No.9822480

>>9822404
My heart will always belong to the original PS1 version, but PC Sourcenext with the rebirth patch is probably the "best".

>> No.9822495

>>9822425
>compressed backgrounds upscaled to 480
>preserving the garbage even further through VGA no less
Yeah, no. The PS1 and N64 versions are better simply due to 240p.

>> No.9822501

>>9822404
Dreamcast

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>>9822458
>>9822413
Based overly ambitious handheld game developers. We'll never see this sort of soulful adaptation of console content squashed onto a handheld again.

>> No.9822541

>>9822404
Dualshock PS1

>> No.9822572
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9822572

PC + Classic Rebirth patch. It has the best of everything.

>> No.9822579

>>9822572
How to unlock Extreme Battle Mode on PC?

>> No.9822597

>>9822572
Doesn't this use the easier Japanese version as the base?

>> No.9822620

>>9822597
>Doesn't this use the easier Japanese version as the base?

RE1 is Japanese version. RE2 and RE3 have Japanese version and American version.

Original mode = Japanese version
Arrange Mode = American version

>> No.9822627

It's the Dreamcast.

>> No.9822636
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>>9822404
Tiger game.com

>> No.9822653
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>>9822404
Remake. It's agreed.

>> No.9822713

>>9822627
Based

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>>9822404

>> No.9822749

>>9822653
Remake is a great game but a different one completely.

>> No.9822817

>>9822404
I love playing RE and dinocrisis on Dreamcast. If only REmake or Re1 actually made it on the console.

>> No.9822819

Rebirth with 240p mode enabled and a CRT shader through Reshade.

>> No.9822827

>>9822404
WAIT THERES A PC VERSION?! i gotta play it

>> No.9822853

>>9822827
>>9814964

>> No.9822918
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>>9822404

>> No.9822921

Dreamcast for the hardest difficulty that never appeared in any other version, not even Gamecube

N64 for built-in randomizer and the anomaly of pre-rendered cutscenes on the N64, plus extra files

>> No.9822976

>>9822620
>Original mode = Japanese version
>Arrange Mode = American version

For japanese RE2. For western release its obviously switched.

>> No.9822980

>>9822921
>Dreamcast for the hardest difficulty that never appeared in any other version, not even Gamecube

It's also on PC.

>> No.9822996

>>9822918
what's lb and fs

>> No.9823000

>>9822458
hahaha that fucking strut. what a chad.

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>>9822996

>> No.9823025
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>>9822404
>Alright /vr/, which are the best version of Resident Evil 2?
PS was the only one people who were actually alive at the time cared about. Anyone who says different is simply lying and in a loon cult.

>> No.9823028

>>9823025
is this why RE2 and RE3 on the gamecube go for so much nowadays?

>> No.9823029

>>9822404
This is why "Dreamcast is retro but 6th gen is not" does not make any sense. DC games litearlly looked better than PS2/GC games.

>> No.9823032

>>9823029
>>9823028
Yes its why they are rare because back when people were playing and enjoying these games no one gave a flying fuck about the n64 or gamecube. No one. They are not 'retro' either. They were then and are now retarded fanboy cults. If you want o play it as people played it when it became huge you play it on a playstation. It did not even release on other platforms for years after it was on playstation because they were obscure bullshit owned by retards at the time and did not matter(some things stay the same).

>> No.9823051

>>9823032
sounds like it'd be best to try and get my hands on the PS1 dualshock release if I'm collecting physically then.

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>>9822976
>For western release its obviously switched.
Not exactly, at least on PS1 US Dualshock:
>The international versions does not offer both the Japanese and international game modes. Instead, Original Game corresponds to the original international versions, with both its Normal and Easy difficulty intact, while Arrange Game only offers the Rookie difficulty which also corresponds to the international versions but starting with the S.Machine Gun in the inventory, as well as the Gatling and Rocket Launcher in the item box, all with unlimited ammo.
TL;DR you can't play the JP version in the US release but you can play the US version in the JP release
https://tcrf.net/Resident_Evil_2_(PlayStation)#Arrange_Game

>> No.9823103

>>9822404
the original one

>> No.9823108

Best versions to just open and play are the gamecube ones. You just get an ISO, run it on dolphin and enjoy. You can even use texture mods if they're too low res for your fucking zoomer ass.
It's a shame they didn't port RE1 there because of the remake. They should have added it as an extra disc as a bonus.

>> No.9823115

The only real answer is this >>9822572

and there isn't a single "version comparison" that is fair, like how this one >>9822918 make it seem like the N64 version is a good choice because "it has more", even though it's the most broken version, and even though that "more" consists in either really shitty stuff or stuff that allows to censor your game.
Also the resolution in the GC version is wrong.
It's one of those things where people parrot an opinion just because it's a semi-rare title on a Nintendo console.

>> No.9823128

>>9822620
>>9822976
RE4 on the American Gamecube release is tweaked to be harder than the European and Japanese releases. AI is more aggressive, less money, prices are higher, guns and knife are weaker.

The Wii port is itself the easiest version because they made everything faster or slower to account for the wiimote controls.

NTSC GameCube's balance

- Ammo drops significantly more often and Pesetas drop less often
- The Knife does 60% less damage
- The TMP does 30% less damage to Ganados and 25%% more damage to El Gigante and Krauser
- The Red9, Blacktail, and Rifle exclusive upgrades are weaker
- The Semi-Auto Rifle's exclusive upgrade is stronger (0.4 vs 0.8 firing speed)
- The Handgun exclusive upgrade is stronger (50% crit chance vs 33% in UHD)
- Matilda has a slower rate of burst fire, lower firepower, and slightly faster reload speed
- Mine Thrower mines take 2 seconds longer to detonate
- The Merchant's First Aid Spray stock is not dynamic
- First Aid Sprays, Treasure Maps, the TMP, and Mine Thrower are more expensive. Striker and Killer7 are cheaper.
- The Shotgun is more expensive to fully ugprade.
- Flash grenades don't instakill Las Plagas wolves
- U3 takes full damage from magnum weapons (vs 50% in UHD)
- Regenerators take 33% more damage from everything but the Knife

Striker, in the original version you had to wait until at least chapter 4-3 to start upgrading it. In later versions they allow you to tune up as soon as the Striker is available in the sewers before Verdugo.

The way item drops work in the GC version of RE4 is interesting. There are no individual weapon ammo caps, so you can get more than 25 shotgun shells, 15 magnum ammo, and 10 mines at a time. Instead the game caps you at a generic 150 'BulletPoint' value based on the sum of your inventory. The drop rate on magnum ammo and grenades is also much higher--you can do some funny things with just a handgun and a Broken Butterfly in your inventory.

>> No.9823140

>>9822597
>>9822620
RE1 on PC (all versions) always have had both western and Japanese difficulty.
1st playthrough: Japanese difficulty
NG+: Western difficulty.

The rebirth patch allows you to start with western difficulty.

>> No.9823154

>>9823128
Changes exclusive to every NTSC-U (North American) release of RE4

Easy difficulty is removed as an option from the difficulty select menu
Normal mode and Separate Ways (if available) begin at game rank 5 instead of game rank 3 [1]
Assignment Ada is fixed to game rank 6 instead of game rank 4
The village stage in Mercenaries has a unique dynamic difficulty mode. Unlike the other Mercenaries stages, the game rank is no longer fixed, and you also passively gain 30 dynamic difficulty points every second.
The shooting range requires 3000 points per bottle cap instead of 1000

Note that the English PC ports of RE4 are considered to be PAL English releases internally. You need re4_tweaks to see these changes on PC.

Changes exclusive to every NTSC-J (Japanese) release of RE4

Amateur mode (very easy) is available as an option in the difficulty select menu
Ashley's section is played with classic RE-style fixed camera angles
Players take 20% less damage in Mercenaries mode
Decapitations are censored (not sure if this affects gameplay in any tangible ways)

Changes exclusive to every (?) PAL-Germany release of RE4

Assignment Ada and Mercenaries Mode are unavailable
(German Steam owners of UHD no longer seem to be getting this censored version of the game. Does this also apply to the PS4/XB1/Switch ports?)

https://github.com/emoose/re4-research/issues/26

>> No.9823162

>>9823108
>>9822921
>N64 for built-in randomizer and the anomaly of pre-rendered cutscenes on the N64, plus extra files

Coming to PC

https://youtu.be/eSa6I35Y4IE

>> No.9823221

N64 version is king

>> No.9823324

>>9822918
Is the N64 version really the only one that supports surround sound?

>> No.9823328

>>9823324
>Is the N64 version really the only one that supports surround sound?
>>9823032
>back when people were playing and enjoying these games no one gave a flying fuck about the n64 or gamecube. No one.
>>9823032
>It did not even release on other platforms for years after it was on playstation because they were obscure bullshit owned by retards
>>9823025

>> No.9823329

>>9822495
/thread RE1, 2, 3 look best at 240p. You can still play PC version at 240p though.

>> No.9823334

>>9823324
By the time Resident evil even released on teh N64 it has been out for two years on the playstation and anyone who loved games and wanted to play it has finished it well over a year before hand. The N64 was fucking nonsense. Just stop.

>> No.9823361 [DELETED] 

As someone who actually was around at the time and b ought and played all these games this si why the N64 was completely fucking irrelevent
1)It could not play CDs. This was how people listened to music.
2)It was expensive. The games were expensive.
3)It was primarily marketed to children from wealthy families. Adult themed games like resident evil were ported late to it.
4)The number of units it shipped was nothing compared to the PlayStation, the PlayStation sold vast numbers as their was profit there for a massive flood of accessories and games, none of which were released for the N64 because the N64 completely lost the sales battle
5)'Everyone loved mario' no everyone did not fucking love mario. Mario was one of a million side scrolling platformers and in places like the UK had significantly less traction than stuff like manic miner.

I'm fucking tired of dfanboys who were 10 at the time trying to use this bo0ard to shill their retarded parents shitty purchasing decisions. I get it you are gay and you like zelda because its /lgbt/ shit. Fine but stop fucking pretending that completely failed platforms like the GHC and N64 mattered or have any relevance to people who actually love retro gaming.

>> No.9823405

>>9823361
Rent free

>> No.9823428 [DELETED] 

Why the PlayStation one succeeded? You want to know why? Distribution. Every highstreets was dominated by a blockbuster or national clone and PlayStation has a rental section and new sale section there and behind the counter the machines were on sale and the accessories like light guns. This spilled over for the PS2 because Duh now you could get one and it was also a DVD player in teh DVD store. Where was the N64? In toy stores not even all toy stores. Expensive toy stores. Same with the GC even on home turf these fucking things were only of relative interest to give you one example the n64 sold 5 and something million units in Japan. That's about the same as teh ZX spectrum and that's by far its best market. Relative to teh playstation it was a fucking nothing. Looking at this board and these fake pimp their own bag retro articles you would think the world loved and played shit like mario and zelda . They did not. They did not buy the consoles and these games were exclusive to them. They were unloved redheaded step children compared to the metal gear solids, final fantasy, silent hill, resident evil, crash bandicoots, grand Turismo's and wipe-outs. No one gave a fuck about zelda. My only memory of it was that it had a following with gays. yes really. Looking at this board is like living in an alternate timeline where retro gaming was SHIT NOBODY PLAYED. T^he snes and megadrive, ps1 and 2 sure people played them and PCs and home computers like amigas, commodores, spectrums and there were huge communities around these things but not shit like N64s or dreamcasts or gamecubes or vetrexes or other poorly supported nearly ran failures. This board attempts to completely fucking distort gaming. PlayStation was the system that brought gaming to the masses and make it acceptable for adults, playstation games like silent hill and games like wipeout pimping night club drug culture like FSOL and The Prodigy and fucking red bull. Not strangely paedo dungaree wearing plumbers

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>>9822918
The original PC release claims to have EAX support. I don't know if it has surround sound or any EAX 2 effects like reverb, if anyone has the game and an EAX 2 compatible sound card Windows 98 build to test.

>> No.9823431

>>9823405
yeah the firehose of bullshit regarding bullshit like N64s and GC here can be fucking annoying.

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9823438

Oh shit, I made a too parallel thread without checking the catalog my bad.

Anyway, any of you nerds know where I can get a prepatched full download of Seamless? Dolphin or PC version, don't matter.

>> No.9823451

>>9822510
Instead GBC, why not release it on the SNES?

>> No.9823456

QUICK CENSOR REALITY QUICK LET'S PRETEND SOMEONE PLAYED ZELDA OR BOUGHT A N64 SHUT IT DOWN LETS NOT HAVE A DECENBT BOARD LETS JUST HAVE A SHITTYT CENSORED FANBOY WANKFEST

>> No.9823581

>>9822572
It would be perfect if not for the hard subs in the fmvs.

>> No.9823583

>>9822404
Gamecube

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>>9822636
>>9822745

Correct

>> No.9823621

>>9823438
I hate how these "hd" mods are so often just using the smooth tool on the pre-rendered background images

>> No.9823683

>>9823451
this would be cool. do you think they could use that C4 chip they used in megaman x2 or the super fx chip to make it look closer to the original? I'm not so much of a technical guy

>> No.9823701

>>9823334
nigga what? does it have surround sound or not.

>> No.9823784

>>9823162
>Coming to PC

In a couple of years maybe, the classic-rebirth guy seems to have ADHD, he keeps jumping from one project to another. He was working on dino crisis 2, but now he says he cant be bothered to work on it and is instead doing Legacy of Kain games and the RE games havent been updated in years.

If he could focus on one project at a time get thing done, like for example the directors cut features for RE1, he would probably earn more on patreon.

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>>9823621
Seamless uses AI upscaling. Is /tg/ unaware of this project? The flavor I'm getting from this thread is people have found $5 Trinitrons at Goodwill and are smugly deluding themselves as to their universal superiority.

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>>9824153
The modern equivalent of supersai filters

>> No.9824271

>>9824153
>Seamless uses AI upscaling
Which explains why it looks marginally better than the hd texture mod on the left

>> No.9824648

>>9824271
Yeah, which is to say it's objectively the best way to play the original unmolested game engine. If I want to downscale it back to 240p on the way out of my rig that's my business.

>> No.9824649

>>9822404
SOUL > SOULL > SOULLE > SOULLES > SOULLESS

>> No.9824650

>>9822745
>RAD

It sure was...

>> No.9824653

>>9822458
What is this "evening stroll simulator"?

>> No.9824670

>>9823614
Oh man, do you actually own that thing? Why?

>> No.9824673

>>9824648
>Yeah, which is to say it's objectively the best way to play the original unmolested game engine.
I wouldn't go that far considering the absolute state of the hot dog stand in the second pic you posted

>> No.9824710
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>>9822404
The one where I get to play as Tifa. Oh yeah that's right, the PC version!

>> No.9824716

>>9822404
Gamecube for the type-c controls.

>> No.9824804

>>9822404
I've got a soft spot for the n64 version, because it was the first RE game I ever played. I had no idea what I was getting into, I just thought the box looked cool so I rented it. I got hard filtered for a while because I was used to games like goldeneye and turok.
Got me into the series and survival horror in general.
But Holy shit the n64 controller is aids for this game

>> No.9824807

>>9822458
>the CHAD STRIDE

>> No.9824852

>>9824673
It's fucking dented. The streets are piled with burning wreckage and you assume that seam is a rendering mistake?

>> No.9824858

>>9824852
You're coping now

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>>9824858
Still better than anything else we've got

>> No.9825230

>>9823329
The hard part is outputting 240p to a CRT from PC though

>> No.9825652

>>9822918
Is there a guide like this for the other games?

>> No.9825656

>>9825652
no

>> No.9825674

Original PS1 version on a good CRT is the best.

>> No.9825742

>>9825230
CRT shaders exist, but yeah PS1 version would be ideal for a real CRT.

>> No.9825785

>>9822458
Pants hiked up, and reversed.
World's gone to shit, things getting worse.
Never ever forget one thing.... Regardless of what, you've always gotta STRUT!

>> No.9825786

>>9822404
PC mustard

>> No.9825812

>>9822404
The 2019 one.

>> No.9827869

>>9822404
I prefer the PC port just for the modding community. Additionally, shippable door scenes are a huge selling point.

additionally, your choice in controllers. the n64 and Dreamcast have okay controllers but the Dual shock beats them both in every way.

>> No.9827873

>>9827869
Preferably I use the Sega Saturn USB controller for RE2 on PC.

>> No.9828046

>>9823103
Correct.

>> No.9828075

>>9822819
>Rebirth with 240p mode enabled and a CRT shader through Reshade.

Now explain this to me because as far as I know Reshade can't upscale. So do you set the highest resolution in-game then apply a CRT shader that downscales to 240p after the fact?

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>>9827869
>>9827873
That's because the game is best played with digital controls. Analog is useless because movement is only 8 directions so a d-pad is superior and more accurate than a stick. Keyboard is also really good and snappy which is why a lot of speedrunners use it

>> No.9828169

>>9822404
Gamecube because it has the good control scheme.

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Made a little video showing one of the differences in enemy placement between JP and US

>> No.9828765

>>9822404
Game.Com

>> No.9828772
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9828772

>>9824153
This is the future of graphics.

>> No.9829776

>>9828116
Exactly. The Sega Saturn's D-Pad is perfect.

>> No.9829871

>>9822572
>still can't apply crt shaders on it

>> No.9829907

>>9823025
Desperate for games =/= ps any good
You are assosciating people desperate for ps1 games worth playing as bad sales for other consoles. With incorrectly reported numbers no less.

>> No.9830147

>>9822404
PSX costs $30.
Every other version costs $300.
PSX wins.

>> No.9830161

>>9829907
>desperate for games
>on PSX
Yeah, sure buddy. N64's library of 40 good games had people rolling in content.
The real reason is that Nintendo fans only play Nintendo games and platformers for toddlers, this is historical fact. It's why every Resident Evil game did poorly except RE4 and Chronicles on the Wii (RE4 on the GCN did 1.6 million lmao)

>> No.9830315

>>9823025
>>9823032
you are mentally ill. I played the OG games and REmake on GC when I was 12 in the early 2000's. Some of us just play games instead of whatever meta contrarian snowflake faggotry your ass is on about. I played Dino Crisis for the first time in 2008 on PS2 because I don't concern myself with the implications of online gaming communities or whatever the fuck your on about

>> No.9830331

>>9822404
I’ve only played the GameCube and PS1 versions, but I’d have to go with the PS1 version. I think the lower resolution suits the 3D models a little better.

>> No.9830336

>>9830315
god now that I think about it you've gotta be real fucked up not to just play games instead filtering everything through this autistic lens "am I allowed to enjoy this" "no because those other people do and I am different"

Don't you remember when you were a kid and you could just experience things as they were without this neurotic behavior?

Seriousily what the fuck is wrong with you? >>9823032

>> No.9830373

>>9824153
>patricide
lol whut

>> No.9830471

>>9822458
look at that chad stride

>> No.9830513

>>9822458
>me on my way to your mom's house

>> No.9830592 [DELETED] 

>>9828772
You missed patricide

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>>9830147
>Every other version costs $300
>single player PC games
>costing anything