/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.9814696]

Who was the evilest and most detrimental figure in video games prior to 2001? Someone you consider to have the most negative impact on the medium as a whole and set back the industry?

[Anonymous No.9814698]

[Anonymous No.9814705]

inb4 thread is full of japs

[Anonymous No.9814715]

[Anonymous No.9814726]

That is an easy one. This old, decrepit motherfucker was responsible for bringing some of the worst ever games and hardwares into the games industry, and using Yakuza blood money to push them in a huge brainwashing campaign and illegal underhanded exclusivity deals, allowing Nintendo to establish a monopoly that would hold back console gaming for years and handheld gaming for over a DECADE. If he had stuck to his toys and playing cards, we would have had a far better 8-bit, 16-bit, and 32-bit era.

[Anonymous No.9814742]

anyone involved with s*nic

[Anonymous No.9814751]

>>9814696
No one, considering how the industry is now. You cant set back whats already crashed and burned.

[Anonymous No.9814756]

>>9814696
> nakayama
that's interesting. it wasn't him that killed their entire console division. that was bernie.

>>9814726
> has no idea about nintendo's history
amazing.

another day, another schizo thread full of this board's collective of dunning kruger-based retards born yesterday.

[Anonymous No.9814760]

>>9814756
Bernard Stolar literally did nothing wrong except stepping up to play a shitty hand dealt to him by other people. Should have left Sega to die in 1996.

[Anonymous No.9814761]

>>9814756
Zomg did you really read a psychology level 100 textbook one time?!?!

You must be a literal genius for repeating random psychology words on an internet forum!

(Lol faget)

[Anonymous No.9814763]

>>9814696
Jack Thompson

[Anonymous No.9814780]

>>9814760
>Bernard Stolar literally did nothing wrong
except killing sega's console division. was that the plan all along?

[Anonymous No.9814782]

>>9814761
shut the fuck up, schizo. straight white men without criminal records are speaking

[Anonymous No.9814790]

>>9814726
This guy. Put a hit on Gunpei Yokoi. He knew Yokoi was a brilliant man so he couldn't have him work for any Nintendo competitors.

[Anonymous No.9814805]

>>9814698
FPBP
Everything became cinematic and Kojimbo showed game devs there was profit to be made with wannabe straight-to-video movies sold as games.

[Anonymous No.9814813]

>>9814756
singling out bernie alone is faggotry. horrendous string of decisions before the dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.9814847]

If we're talking about liars?

Todd or molyneux

[Anonymous No.9814859]

>>9814726
holy shit, can i get a rundown on the yakuza part

[Anonymous No.9814864]

This is actually a very good question and kind of difficult to answer...
hmm...

[Anonymous No.9814868]

Here are some people I don't really like from that time period

Ed Boon
Trip Hawkins
Bill Gates
Victor Ireland

[Anonymous No.9814898]

gabe by far

[Anonymous No.9814981]

>>9814763
>Jack Thompson

he was the best spokesperson Rockstar ever had. helped them sell tens of millions of extra units.

[Anonymous No.9814994]

>>9814898
>>9814868
Going with either Gates or Gabe. One fucked up consoles(though pc as well) and the other really fucked up pc.

[Anonymous No.9814996]

>>9814994
You're thinking of Steve Ballmer, not Bill Gates

[Anonymous No.9815039]

>>9814726
>responsible for bringing some of the worst ever games and hardwares into the games industry
On what? Atari before the Famicom even came out in Japan? Kek.

[Anonymous No.9815546]

Anyone involved with Sony on the US side.

[Anonymous No.9815707]

Fuck the industry.

[Anonymous No.9815715]

>>9814726
This. It isn't even close either. Not to mention he got Yokoi killed too.

[Anonymous No.9815792]

>>9814790
>>9815715
>Gunpei Yokoi
That fucker may well be my #2. He was the main one responsible for the "withered technology" ideology at Nintendo, getting them to put out underpowered hardwares for inflated prices, which turned handheld gaming into an absolute joke for decades, a "legacy" that handhelds are still suffering from to this day. That car ought to have come for him a decade sooner.

[Anonymous No.9815793]

>>9814726
good one. we'd still be playing Tiger Electronics games without this guy.

[Anonymous No.9815798]

>>9815792
only on 4chan can you still find takes like this.
>the GameBoy sold 118 million units
>and it fucking SUCKED

[Anonymous No.9815801]

>>9814696
Nintendo when developing the PlayStation.

[Anonymous No.9815809]

>>9815798
Have you noticed everyone named here has been successful for the most part lmao, 4chan just has perpetual underdog syndrome, no the guy who lost actually won here’s why

[Anonymous No.9815819]

>>9815809
I don't mean to make excuses for Nintendo's predatory business practices in the 80s and early 90s but you do not have to know a lot to see where they were coming from. The Americans invented the video game market--and then they mercilessly tanked and fucked it. If Nintendo had lost their string of lawsuits, specifically the Atari one in the early 90s, the Americans would have dogpiled the entire industry all over again. They were very intentionally keeping the piggu out of the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.9815821]

>>9815792
Why fully maximize old tech when you can clumsily and stupidly push toward a new technological edge that developers don't understand yet, and consumers can't utilize?

[Anonymous No.9815835]

>>9815819
Look at the comment about handhelds. Nintendo held back the market by…..being wildly successful? If it was such an economic inefficiency with oodles of cash to be made why didn’t another company come storming in and kick them out?

Yeah the GBA hardware sucked especially the dogshit sound chip but it’s also possible that contributed to its battery life, portability, ease of development, etc. nothing happens in a vaccum

[Anonymous No.9815851]

I’m gonna give my vote to jack tramiel, basically killed atari. Had the 7800 released in 84 they would’ve been fine. Pretty much every retailer said tramiel was a nightmare to deal with with commodore and they didn’t want atari

[Anonymous No.9815854]

>>9815821
The people who make those kind of comments don't even like video games, they're just Carmack-tier techfags.

[Anonymous No.9815864]

>>9815821
Wait do you work for sega hardware division?

[Anonymous No.9815883]

>>9815851
Ataris problems started all the way back in 78. Nolan Bushnell succeeded in assembling a wack pack acid crew of 1st wave tech hippies who would sometimes accidentally make a good game, but there was no way to scale that business because nobody understood it because it was all brand new. Jack Tramiel didn't even buy Atari until July of 1984, and the video games industry did not die in a stock-market sense alone. It took nearly a decade after that for people to stop annually publishing articles like "VIDEO GAMES ARE UP, BUT NOT FOR LONG, EXPERTS SAY". 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992---saying video games cannot last over and over again, saying "oh it looks this is it for nintendo!". Another Atari product releasing in 84/85 was not going to change the fortune for that brand or those systems.

[Anonymous No.9815890]

Can we put this shit eater on the block too, while we're at it? He's almost single handedly responsible for the casualification of gaming, Mario and Zelda forever changed the industry for the worst, and now we're swimming in shit because of it.

[Anonymous No.9815895]

>>9815890
See
>>9815809
>>9815798

[Anonymous No.9815918]

>rental vidya is....le BAD
Howard Lincoln is a hack.

[Anonymous No.9815929]

>>9814742
What's wrong with Mark Cerny?

[Anonymous No.9816151]

>>9814805
That was never really a problem for traditional videogame designers in Japan, but moreso for computer game designers in America who were just entering the console market. Americans could have adapted by making more abstract games for home consoles but instead went early on in 6th gen for a filmic direction, undercutting any stylistic orientation.

[Anonymous No.9816182]

>>9814756
Sony's axeman is definitely going to remain in the top 5.

[Anonymous No.9816185]

>>9815929
i just came to get something eat

[Anonymous No.9816248]

>>9814696
Infogrames aka Nu-Atari

[Anonymous No.9816256]

>>9814847
molyneux never lied about anything, he's always been a good guy.

[Anonymous No.9816258]

>>9816256
go away Pete, you were always a hack fraud

[Anonymous No.9816263]

>>9816258
>Taking the side of Journos
ngmi

[Anonymous No.9816268]

>>9816263
Molyneux certainly didn't make it.

[Anonymous No.9816330]

>>9814726
Are there any legit sources on Nintendo having Yakuza connections that go beyond the Yakuza buying their playing cards?

[Anonymous No.9816339]

>>9816330
If you even need a source for how extensive and influential the Yakuza presence is in Japan you know literally nothing.

[Anonymous No.9816352]

>>9815792
It wasn't a terrible idea at the time considering the costs to get miniaturized hardware out in the 80s/90s. However, they should've dropped it by the time the GBA came out and they paid for it dearly when the PSP was announced and blindsided the fuck out of Nintendo. If Nintendo didn't make and pivot to the DS, they would've gotten blown out by the PSP which was the better value all around. And even that didn't kill the withered technology ideology because it's still alive today. And fuck Sony for half assing portable hardware. I can't believe everyone's last hope in the space for gaming is portable PCs.

[Anonymous No.9816382]

Great thread for a laugh.
Aren't you bored of being retards?

[Anonymous No.9816431]

>>9815792
Why has everyone else failed and Nintendo succeeded then? They tried colors, backlight, extra power, everything but people were still buying Game Boys instead of Game Gears or Lynxes and no one else dared to try.
With mobile gaming you just can't have costs of production as high as TV games, look at the PSP and Vita, with thinner margins of profit you must cut every corner to deliver the games so if your machine is overpowered your games just look cheap or are too expensive to produce.
Same thing with many smaller studios once 3d became the norm, costs skyrocketed and cheaper games were massacred by consumers so many smaller studios closed when before they could compete thanks to simpler technology.

[Anonymous No.9816564]

>>9814981
Scumbag lawyer, but it was funny to see magazines like EGM making him out to be Satan back then.

>>9816339
Everybody knows this and yet it would be nice to read about it context for Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.9816589]

>>9816564
I thought it was confirmed by industry vets that Nintendo was one of the few game companies NOT in bed with the yakuza back in the day? Probably because of their lack of arcade presence.

[Anonymous No.9816596]

>>9814696
That's a very sophisticated comb-over.

[Anonymous No.9816607]

>>9816596
Combed over a thousand times

[Anonymous No.9816617]

>>9816607

[Anonymous No.9817310]

The only one I hate is that dude bro fag that worked on Gears of War.

[Anonymous No.9817324]

>>9817310
Oh yeah. In terms of impact he's irrelevant, but Cliffy B is a massive giant faggot, I don't think I've ever seen a more punchable face.

[Anonymous No.9817565]

>>9815798
holy shit this. They made b&w versions of popular, single screen games. That was the expectation for a game back then and they nailed it. If that faggot had a gameboy when they came out and bought batteries with his own money, he would know that. That shit ran for 24 hours and had great games.

The gameboy was held back by pokemon. They were gearing up for what would be the GBA, but just did a hardware refresh of the GBC for pokemon because the shit was literally not stop selling

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[Anonymous No.9817717]

>>9817578

Looks like the fat hog likes fat screens.

[Anonymous No.9818860]

>>9817324
Honestly pretty much everyone at Epic were massive knobs

[Anonymous No.9819062]

>>9814698
Nope, Kojima wasn't some hack who got lucky by chance. He's more of a story and Designer guy than a coder, for sure, though.
Now Ray Kassar, and the fools at Maxis that let EA Buy them out in 1997, however...

[Anonymous No.9819361]

>>9815792
>which turned handheld gaming into an absolute joke for decades
you are one of the most enormous faggots I've encountered on vr

[Anonymous No.9819373]

>>9815792
How's your game Gear treating you champ?

[Anonymous No.9819379]

>>9815918
That spooky bastard looks like he could be Mich McConnell's brother

[Anonymous No.9819384]

>>9814790
This controversy makes no sense unless it's about "muh honor, how dare you abandon us even after we ruined your career, you will pay."

[Anonymous No.9819434]

>>9814756
The Saturn killed sega but saying that on /vr/ is a hottake with its stupid cultists.

[Anonymous No.9819630]

>>9815792
I don't see why this was a problem. I don't mind a cheaper, weaker console or handheld so long as I feel like the games I'm playing on it aren't held back by the hardware. I still regularly went back and played my NES even when I had an SNES because I liked the original Legend of Zelda, or played my SNES because Super Metroid was a blast and nothing on the 64 came close to it. Neither one of those games needed better technology to achieve their goals, so there's no reason to have a more powerful, more expensive, lower battery life handheld just so I could have more colors on the screen or a higher resolution.

On the flipside, SNES SimCity is strictly inferior to its PC counterpart by a wide margin because the SNES's hardware is incapable of handling everything. For those sort of games, I could understand the argument.

[Anonymous No.9820724]

>>9814696
Yuji Naka