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What are your least favorite remakes /vr/?

Mine has to the Link's Awakening remake. Looks terrible, controls worse than the original since youre forced to use an analog stick for 4-dimensional movement for some reason, somehow runs worse than the original too and dips frames constantly. Overall awful.

>> No.9807452
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>>9807447
>2022
>Game has locked perspective
>Game has SD textures
>Frame drips
Why?

>> No.9807461

>>9807447
Wind Waker HD
Twilight Princess HD
Majoras Mask 3D
Nintendo have a terrible track record with Zelda Remakes

>> No.9807467

Zero out of ten Mission

>> No.9807472

>>9807447
OH YEH talking about MODERN REMAKES is okay now and not something that belongs to v because it is discussing modern games and not retro?

>> No.9807483

>>9807461
TP HD is good. WW HD is bad if you hate bloom.

>> No.9807485

>>9807483
WW HD is bad because WW is bad, nothing can save it

>> No.9807489

>>9807461
TP HD is fine

>> No.9807494
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FF7 demake has been ticking me off recently because it pollutes Google searches like mad.

>> No.9807497

>>9807472
Links awakening is retro, remakes of retro games has always been allowed

>> No.9807501

>>9807494
>he uses internet
kys zoomer

>> No.9807629
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9807629

>>9807452
>why?

>> No.9807638
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You "Muh Soul/Soulless" fags need to get a hobby.

>> No.9807650

>>9807447
the new Deus Ex games. Am i allowed to say that here ? The original was just so good and the new one was so gay i stopped playing after less than like 30 minutes and haven't touched it since

>> No.9807672

>>9807497
So we can talk about re4 remake?

>> No.9807696

The remake made Links Awakening playable

>> No.9807707

>>9807650
They're not remakes.

>> No.9807740

>>9807672
Yes? Theres been threads about it dumb shit.

>> No.9808285

>>9807447
Link's awakening is a criptic piece of shit game that force you to buy a guide just like the original. Unsurprinsingly if you remake crap, it may have better graphic, but it's still crap.

>> No.9808320

>>9807447
>posting this disgusting shit on /vr/
Kill yourself disgusting subhuman

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>>9807447
i like it but we had playmobile toys in poor germany on base as a kid which is what it looks like most to me

odd visual choice for certain but it actually reminded me of my toys as a child

they are ugly as hell tho

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>>9807447
The RE3 Remake, it's so pozzed compared to the original game

>> No.9808348

>>9808343
How so?

>> No.9808351
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The Switch Panzer Dragoon remake is atrocious

>> No.9808410

>>9808351
Why does the water move with you in the Saturn original? Wave race 64 was a better racing game than panzer dragoon.

>> No.9808430

Re1

>> No.9808434

>>9807638
Honestly, current companies are soulless

>> No.9808443

>>9808410
Because the saturn was a piece of shit

>> No.9808470

>>9807638
OP here it has nothing to do with "lol soul/soulless" it just sucks, I like a lot of remakes/remasters but some of them are just a worse experience than the original game, Link's awakening is a perfect example of this.

>> No.9808638

>>9808410
>panzer dragoon
>racing game
kill yourself nintennigger

>> No.9808647

>>9807467
this
turning one of the the most mysterious, expansive and fundamental games of the NES and making it play like fusion for even bigger babbies is a disgrace

>> No.9808770

>>9808351
People will say things like "good gameplay is timeless, graphics don't really matter", which may be somewhat true when the gameplay is actually preserved. But then this kind of remake just robs it of all of the things that made the originals aesthetically appealing, which is half of the draw and experience of the game.

Why does everything have to be so goddamn bright and colorful?

>> No.9808779

>>9807497
I have no idea ytf you keep saying this. Where in da roolz does it say that?

>> No.9808891

Spyro and Crash trilogy

>> No.9808904

>>9807629
This. The frame drops are more noticeable on the physical cart version because the engine streams data off of the cart. This is slower than streaming it off of an SD card. Running it off of the internal storage mitigates this, but really, they should just hire non-shit programmers to optimize it.

>> No.9809405

>>9808348
It just is, le based 4ching man told me so

>> No.9809476

Secret of Mana remake is a nearly unplayable piece of shit. Trials remale is way better, especially for a no budget game dumped out at the same time as FF7R.

>> No.9809491

>>9809476
I agree with you about Trials. I was very surprised when it turned out to be cozy and even quite beautiful in parts. The environment around the mana tree was lovely.

>> No.9809609

>>9807494
Which DMCV mod is this

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>>9807461
It's because GREZZO is the worst thing to happen to Zelda (aside from Dark Horse). "Oy Four Swords Anniversary wasn't so bad" - yeah anyone could've improved it.
>>9807483
If you say so.

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>>9809617

>> No.9809642

>>9809617
Dude TP's models will always look fugly anime-disney inbreds abominations no matter what.

>> No.9809849

All of them.
Remakes should not even be permitted on this board. FUCK OFF if you can't handle playing a game in the original way it first captured peoples' imaginations

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>>9809624

>> No.9810204

>>9807494
That's a sequel, not a remake.

>> No.9810809

>>9807447
It looks fantastic, like a plastic playset. Stop adopting opinions from /v/ and come up with your own.

>> No.9810821

>>9810809
You left your id on from the unfunny Mario post.

>> No.9810875
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Probably Mario 64 DS. I don't think it's totally awful or anything but there's just enough I dislike in it to ensure I'll never replay it over the OG.

>> No.9810885

>>9810875
This is going to sound really stupid but they added Wario to the DS version? Or is that fan art?

>> No.9810895

>>9807447
>Link's Awakening Remake
>Wind Waker
>Majora's Mask

Zelda gets the worst remakes and I don't know why.

Non Zelda answer, RE3 Remake has to be the worst.

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>>9810885
Yep. And it's the worst version of Wario that's ever been playable, which may be why you haven't heard abour it.

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>>9810896
I have managed to avoid any spoils are pretty much any info on Mario 64. Same w Sunshine, I just totally tuned out after sm3 and smw and I have no idea why. I’m planning on going in totally fresh so I had no clue they added playable characters to the DS version. I’m like the guy who doesn’t know King Kong dies at the end. The 64 is my favorite system and I’ve never even touched it’s flagship title.

>> No.9810909

>>9807447
Most (all?) of the zelda games were awful even in the originals at the time as far as I am concerned..

>> No.9810913

>>9810895
Yeah but the worst zelda remakes are still among the best games ever made

>> No.9810917

>>9810913
I never liked them much.

>> No.9810927

>>9810913
Nope. Link's Awakening Remake and Majora's Mask are awful, embarrassing games.

>> No.9810937

>>9810896
Wario can pick up other players in VS and throw them like Bowser, he's alright in my book

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>>9807447
>Team that made a cult classic comes together once again a decade and a half later.
>They can make a new game in the series, but they decide to remake said classic.
>Instead of improving it, they muddle it with complicated and unnecessary features.
>Plus mixing in time travelling mechanics, for some fucking reason.
>The years pass and the company that holds the rights of the brand produces yet another remake, now without the people originally involved.
>Not a much needed entry in the open-ended universe of the franchise or revisiting another game in there.
>It's a re-release of the remake with some changed mechanics, which feels like covering the cracks of a wall with bandaids at this point.
>And you still dumped +1000 hours across all the versions.

>> No.9811043

>>9811007
It's mostly that these remakes are targeted at a new generation of players. They rely on older ones to generate the buzz for them and hype them up, people who haven't played the original pick them up and see what the fuss is about. Any changes are designed to ease in newer players without regard to if they're actually better mechanics or not.

>> No.9811045

what was the point in playing this shit when it fucked this up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74v8tDOh3w&lc=Ugx1ER6DD2eT-1DK4Ht4AaABAg

>> No.9811118

>>9809491
Besides no co-op, Trials remake is pretty much a 10/10

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>>9810907
The DS version is certainly one of the remakes of all time..It feels pretty different due to the characters replacing the original powerup system, so ot might be worth checking out after you play the 64 original.

>> No.9811210

Botw
Alttp

Are the only 2 truly great Zelda games.

>> No.9811219

>>9811210
I don't think you read the OP.

>> No.9811223

The remake of XIII was literally broken and I don't think they ever fixed it

>> No.9811232

>>9810875
64 DS would be great if the controls weren't so horribly fucked.

>> No.9811268

>>9811232
It's actually pretty good as long as they patched in analog controls. I tried the wrist thing to analog stick gimmick but it didn't really work.

>> No.9811402

>>9807447
All remakes and remasters are kuso.

>> No.9811487

>>9811043
I believe that 'buzz' could be drummed up better by taking the risk and making a new game, especially when you have the group of people that made previous entries together to work on something faithful to those games, while releasing old games —mostly as they are, with some bug cleaning— when new and old fans want to go back for more. Yet, game devs play it safe and only do the latter and they are fine with it.
Some remakes work better like that because they are pretty self-contained (Legend of Mana, SaGa Frontier), but I believe most Ogre players wanted something else to expand on the setting when there's so much to work on (Rashidi, the Lodissian empire, more adventures with Denam, the fate of New Zenobia, etc.)
>Any changes are designed to ease in newer players.
Leveling per class, buying skills that aren't usable across classes 9 out of 10 times, percentage of success for crafting, Deneb's quest, the extended PotD and the convoluted array of status ailments sure go against that. The rewind feature, in my opinion, spoils the experience and prevents players from planning their attacks better, broken characters and finishers aside.

>> No.9811590

>>9807447
i enjoyed it but never played og

>> No.9812148

Ninja Saviors took an already good game and improved it while being worked on by people who made the original being filled with SOVL. Yaksha is so damn fun to play.

>> No.9812156

>>9811132
I hate those stupid gmod models. Mario looks like ass after 4th and 5th gen. Just horrific

>> No.9812168

>>9809617
>left: looks like shit
>right: looks like shit

>> No.9812190

>>9808470
Or you're just older and still playing products designed for children?

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>>9808320
I once got banned for posting this, solely because it has nu-Doom included. I tell mods on IRC that this was about some hack calling a specific Zelda game an ARPG, but they literally play semantics with me and say "Well, remakes discussions are a ban-able offense, so im not reducing your ban."
Lastly, i mentioned there was literally a screenshot of Hyrule Warriors for an OP and a AM2R thread up and they said "hurr that's nonya business, just keep le reporting" and they do nothing.

I'm just telling you that because OP's thread isn't going away any time soon.

>> No.9812241

>>9809617
What's the difference?

>> No.9812245

>>9809617
Grezzo also made Ever Oasis, so they're alright.

>> No.9812718

>>9812190
>posted on 4chan /vr/

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>> No.9813304

System shock is shaping up to be my most hated so far and that's really saying something

>> No.9814370

>>9807472
Holy shit have you read the fucking sticky?

>> No.9814376

>>9811007
and which one of these three should the discerning gamer actually play?

>> No.9814382
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FF7R by a large margin for me. Even without adding dementors, Sephiroth everywhere, KH bullshit, and time travel shenanigans which actually makes it a sequel it would still be a bloated failure which failed to capture the essence of the original Midgar full of flanderized characters

>> No.9814410

>>9813304
Because...?

>> No.9814414

>>9810875
Too much of the core design is broken up into pieces to accommodate for 4 playable characters having their own stars and such, which really inhibits the freedom and makes it feel disjointed. Still, have fun with the extra 30 stars.

>> No.9815124

>>9814414
The game has extra stars?

>> No.9815327

>>9814376
It's a 'pick your poison' situation:
>Original SFC
It's buggy, classes are locked by gender and alignment, units are born under an elemental sign and it's the hardest experience due to no rewind, characters holding items to use them, individual leveling up and most of all, characters die when they lose all HP; no reviving until halfway in the game where you can get a Virtue spell. The best port is the Saturn version, which recently got the fan translation treatment.
>PSP
A lot more forgiving but grindy as all fuck and I can't stress how much. It's better to get the hardest experience out of the way with the original game, but this one is acceptable if you don't mind an easier approach. There's the One Vision mod also, which balances classes, crafting, fights and drops.
>Reborn
It's a compromise between both versions, mostly bringing back some mechanics from the original game to make it less grindy. The bonus cards thst appear randomly can throw off the TRPG experience, but this one is the most polished, especially because it takes into consideration the postgame feature of hopping between story paths and how it affects your units.
Remember that there's a branching plot, so you can play each one and make different choices. Overall, play Reborn if you just want to see what the game's all about and be done with it, or play them in release order.
And remember that archers and ninjas are broken as fuck in every game. It feels like cheating when you overuse them.

>> No.9815462

>>9812190
Would complaining about a remake of an "M" or "AO" rated game be more up to your taste?

>> No.9815516

>>9808285
>Link's awakening is a criptic piece of shit game that force you to buy a guide just like the original
Imagine needing a guide for a baby game couldn't be me lol

>> No.9815570

>>9808285
Youre actually an idiot, theres multiple different systems of in-game hints.

>> No.9816637

>>9807629
Bullshit, BotW is an infinitely more advanced game that looks better than LA so there's no excuse. Grezzo are just hacks, or maybe their project got rushed to release.

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>>9815124
yeah

>> No.9816948

>>9809617
TPHD wasn't Grezzo, though.

>> No.9816953

>>9807461
This is how I know sixth gen was a mistake that brought in zoomers, the inability to distinguish remake from remaster.

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>>9808647
>shitty game with a black background and 800 recycled rooms
>"WOOOOAH THIS IS SOME MYSTERIOUS ATMOSPHERIC KINO"

>> No.9817784

My non-WC3R answer would have to be MediEvil Resurrection. That shit was just an unholy marriage of raw PSP jank, obnoxious modernization, and annoying dialogue rewritten to be as quippy as possible (which makes it ahead of its time I guess)

I remember it being THE reason I wanted a PSP back in the day too, so that added to the disappointment.

>> No.9818316

>>9807447
Probably Oddworld New 'n' Tasty