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Sega's architecture is so advanced we'll have a PS5 emulator before a working Saturn emulator.
Some emulator enthusiasts have predicted it may take over 2 million years before computers can accurately emulate the Sega Saturn.

How did Sega do it?

>> No.9791645

damn that must be why the backgrounds in Saturn Resident Evil are better on real hardware

>> No.9791720

>>9791638
The Sega Saturn was developed on the planet Jupiter by an ancient civilization 500 million years ago before humans evolved and was sent in a time capsule to Japan, buried in the same place that would be in our time, Sega's headquarters.
One day while the building was under reconstruction, Yuji Naka and his friends found the capsule glowing, they open it and found a Sega Saturn and a copy of Johnny Bazooka.
They agreed to release the system in a time of need only, when they're desperate.
and This is why, the system is not documented very well.

>> No.9791723

Japanese Navy encryption is based on the Saturn. Every ship carries a single console to which only the captain has access

>> No.9791814

>>9791723
This is like when the talisman bought a bunch of ps3s to launch missiles.
Should have just bought 1 Saturn.

>> No.9791818

>>9791645
> this fag again

Give it a rest

>> No.9791893

>>9791638
Bizhawk can emulate the Saturn.

>> No.9791902

>>9791645
> emulatorfag is STILL assblasted at the thrashing he took in the last RE thread

All I can say is wow.

>>9791638
Just buy one, they're cheap as hell.

>> No.9791929
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9791929

Or you could, you know, use Mednafen/Beetle Saturn?

>> No.9791937

Pretty sure I emulated the Rayearth game at least a decade ago.

>> No.9791942

It doesn't matter anyway, because the Saturn has NOGAEMS

>> No.9791970
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>>9791942
I don't get this meme. The Saturn has nearly twice as many games as the Dreamcast does.

>> No.9792141

>>9791638
works fine on mister

>> No.9792238

>>9791970
>785 Japanese exclusive

Fuckin A man, imagine all that kino we’ll probably never get to play without a fan translation. Wish sega would get their sigger employees to make a Saturn mini and start translating some of that.

>> No.9792287

>>9791970
Because the idiots who says the Saturn has no games are either 1) casuals. 2) haters(most likely fanboys of non-sega consoles). 3) never owned or touched a Saturn.

>> No.9792294

>>9791970
>There are 785 Japan-exclusive games, making 75% of the whole list
So it has no games.

>> No.9792298

>>9792238
>we’ll
I play Japan exclusives that aren't even on that list without a fan translation. Apply yourself.

>> No.9792316

>>9792298
No sorry, learning moon just to play saturn games is such an indescribable level of loser I'm having difficulty putting it into words.

>> No.9792398

>>9792316
Lots of people study Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic just to read the bible even though it's already been translated into so many different languages multiple times over, and yet you find it odd that people would study Japanese to play video games that have never been translated.

>> No.9792402

>>9792398
>Equating religion and video games
Lmao

>> No.9792404

>>9792398
This "person" just compared reading the Bible in its native language to playin Sega Saturn games. Poe's law and all that but here's you >you

>> No.9792431

>>9791970
>1046 games
>785 are japanese exclusive
>482 are garbage (educational/sports/RPG/tabletop)
>99 are arcade ports
>Remaining games are either bad or anemic 6-level 15 minute tech demos
Yeah no games.

>> No.9792460

>>9791638
>>9791645
>>9791942
>>9792294
>>9792316
>>9792431
Anons with skill issues ITT. Just emulate the Saturn it's already done and not that difficult to do.

>> No.9792464

Look at this retard mass-replying his ramblings to unrelated posts.

>> No.9792537

>>9791638
>IMPOSSIBLE to emulate the saturn?
Accurately, maybe not but it sure as hell is possible to do inaccurately and that's good enough for me until I get the actual console

>> No.9792575
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>>9792431
Y-you forgot nights. It-it doesn't go into any of those categories. Nights is great. It is a flying game where you explore levels and try to get a high s-s-score. Nights is worth the cost of a saturn.
Also... also Mr.Bones. It's a fun game. It's not tedious.

>> No.9792586

>>9792575
I once saw someone described Nights as a platformer without platforming, and that's way too real.

>> No.9792619

>>9791638

It's funny, because the Playstation hardware has been emulated since 1997 or 1998. I remeber owning a copy of Bleem for the PC, and I could never get Bleem to work well on my Windows(* PC, back then. IDK why, I had so many problems with it. The only PS1 emulator that ran well on my PC was a pirated copy of Connectix Virtual Game Station, which ran everything with pretty good, but not always perfect results.

I would say that SFF is still overall the best Saturn emulation, and that has been in roughly the same state since 2002? IDK. Mednafen is also the next best option, with the various forks of Yabause being all over the place.

>> No.9792803

>>9791942
from 1994 to 1996 it has almost the same games as psx

>> No.9792814

>>9792316
>I'm having difficulty putting it into words.
Yes, better at least become proficient with English before you try tackling a more difficult language.

>> No.9792846

>>9791970
That's still double the number of PS5 games (556) so far, kek

>> No.9792847

>>9791638
Good thing Saturn didnt left exclusives stuck on system (the ones that dont suck and stood test of time)

>> No.9792849

>>9792846
It's not like developing games became more expensive over time or anything.

>> No.9792851

>>9792846
Damn, I stopped keeping up with most day to day game news but that's insane to read written out, feels like these consoles just don't actually get games anymore. A few monster releases each year but nowhere near the volume of older consoles. I get it, more complex games means more production costs etc, but the beauty of giant libraries is there's something for everyone, and a few obscure titles that develop cult classic status. With the newest gens you just end up asking "thats nice, but is there anything unique here?"

>> No.9792861

>>9792851
There are unique games if you can be less snooty for 5 seconds and read through the damn list.

>> No.9792869

>>9792575
Saturn was also pretty good deal if you were into first person shooters (doom with ps1 stuff, quake, duke, powerslave)

>> No.9792870

>>9791818
? But it's true

>> No.9792873

>>9792869
>Saturn
>Doom
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.9792874

>>9792869
>FPS
>On console
How is this supposed to work?

>> No.9792904

>>9792873
>>9792874
It works when the player (You) is good. Get gud kid #976464782882

>> No.9792905

>>9792869
Based Satquake appreciator

>> No.9792914

>>9792398
Although video games have better stories than scriptures, none of those languages are worth the waste of time.

>> No.9792928

>>9792861
Sorry are we still talking about the PS5? If I take out Sony Theatrical Experience (tm) games?

>> No.9793005
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>>9792238
>without a fan translation

>> No.9793008

>>9792874
Gonna be honest, the N64 is my preferred way to play Quake 1. Best shooter on the system. It only has a bad wrap because Goldeneye fans get filtered by the controls.

>> No.9793017

>>9792575
This, but unironically and Dragon Force.

>> No.9793226

>>9792586
That was me, I'll defend the genius of Sonic Team to my death bed. When other video game designers were trying to recreate platform games in 3D, Sonic Team did the opposite, they deconstructed the platform game. Albert Einstein came up with the theory of relatively by asking the innocent question "what would a beam of light look like if you caught up with it?" Yuji Naka and Naoto Oshima asked a similarly innocent yet earth-shattering series of questions: "what would a platform game be like if there were no platforms? What would a platform game be like if there was no death? What would a platform game be like if you weren't trying to reach the end of the level?" The result is NiGHTS amazing gameplay which PERFECTLY achieves the feeling of flying in a dream and is based on using perfect analogue controls to rack up point chains in a directionless environment. The tragedy of NIGHTS is that the game was essentially unfinished and is little more than a demo taking about 45 mins or so to complete. You can only speculate how good it could have been if Sonic Team and Sega didn't have that arcade mindset and had fleshed out the bare bones of the concept with more levels, modes, challenges and hidden secrets.

>> No.9793257

Is it wrong that I love the Saturn for having that kind of mystique though?This thing was such an engineering spectacle that decades later it still outshines modern programmers' attempts to emulate it?

>> No.9793273

>make saturn bait thread
>more replies than games in saturn's library

>> No.9793319

>>9792398
>and yet you find it odd that people would study Japanese to play video games that have never been translated.
Correct. Jesus Christ.

>> No.9793446

>>9792874
>How is this supposed to work?
analog nipple for aiming, BCYZ for forward/back/strafing, shoulder buttons for shooting/jumping. Worked pretty good actually.

Quake 3 on Dreamcast did the same and it controlled incredibly good (for a console fps anyway).

>> No.9793480

>>9792575
>this filters the zoomer
Many such cases. It pleases me to see you so booty blasted over a game.

>> No.9793749

>>9793257
Making a shitty console with shitty architecture is not the flex you think it is.

>> No.9793779

>>9792398
That's also almost always retarded but for slightly different reasons.

>> No.9793812

>>9792869
>>9792873
For its era, the Saturn unironically has the best ports of Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Hexen, and Alien Trilogy, and has equivalent ports of Space Hulk and Robotica.

The Saturn unironically has the worst port of Doom in any era. The Gameboy Advance version performs better.

>> No.9793821

>>9793480
Which one? Shitty Nights or shitty Mr Bones?
Nights is repetitive garbage which people say is saved by the visuals, while Mr. Bones is... repetitive garbage only saved by the visuals. The differences is at least Mr. Bones varies the gameplay a bit, even though it still manages to be repetitive.

>> No.9794547

>>9793821
Mr Bones. Possibly the best zoomie filter in the world. You can always tell you're dealing with a filtered zoomie when they cry about it being repetitive. Roughly half the levels are completely unique. You might want to reflect on why you pretend otherwise.

>> No.9794549

>>9794547
The game just is not fun at all to play.

>> No.9794930

>>9791638
we can emulate saturn though, computers just struggle to upscale it. which is silly because you're upscaling 50 polygons

>> No.9795441

>>9794549
Not for you. But I enjoy it. Almost as much as I enjoy watching a zoomer get filtered by it. I really do understand. It's dangerously low on handholding in many places and most levels require you to do repeat the same thing many times more than a tiktok dance.

>> No.9796291

I really love the novelty of the paper-rock-scissors strip game. It just makes me laugh.
>The Yakyuu Ken Special: Konya wa 12-kaisen

>> No.9796382

>>9791720
CANT HOLD ON MUCH LONGER

>> No.9796476

>>9795441
"Doing the same unfun thing over and over is fun!"
You having shitty taste doesn't mean others are being filtered.

>> No.9796690

>>9796476
So you don't even practice your tiktok dances? No wonder you have 0 likes/followers.
Not to pick on you specifically, but this is a shining example of zoomerism. Why you can never git gud and are perpetually filtered. Yes. You being unwilling to put in a bit of effort to accomplish "play childs game" is the literal definition of filtered.

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>>9792398
>historians, anthropologists and theologists trying to get a better understanding of early human civilizations
vs
>weeb trying to play a 20 year old dating sim with square tiddies or sexy mahjong 5X deluxe now featuring square tiddies
Fair comparison. Titties are more interesting than why people didn't eat bread after sun down or whatever.

>> No.9796825

>>9791638
Wake up anon, it's not 2012 anymore.

>> No.9796834

>Beetle Saturn/Mednafen
Very good way to emulate Saturn games in 2023, as long as you aren't on a shitty old toaster.
>SSF
Another good option that runs well on older hardware too, though you'll have to endure a Godawful UI/UX due to its convoluted method of loading iso's.
>Kronos
An acceptable option if you just HAVE to get some form of 3D upscaling, but from my own personal experience it doesn't look that great and many games have compatibility/accuracy problems.
>Yaba Sanshiro
Basically the Kronos equivalent for Android, Windows version is worthless because it's only compatible with mdf/mds files with no bin/cue/iso support.

>> No.9796869

>>9796291
I didn't know this existed, and now I do it. I see what you mean, anon

>> No.9796914

dysfunctional overly-complicated mess of a system =/= "advanced"

>> No.9796938

>>9796834
>you'll have to endure a Godawful UI/UX due to its convoluted method of loading iso's.

zoomers can't even fucking mount a bin/cue in daemon tools, I'm laughing.